FECD chemo starting Friday Jan 28/2011

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EmilyInOntario
EmilyInOntario Member Posts: 626

I posted this thread in another forum but had no response and I think what we call FECD in Canada is known by different letters in the US

Has anyone had this chemo treatment? I start this Friday.

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  • Oksana
    Oksana Member Posts: 10
    edited January 2011

    Hi Emily,

    I had this chemo a year ago, started January 2010. Had 3 rounds of FEC and 3 rounds of D.

    I live in Vancouver, BC. I'll be happy to answer your questions.

    In general, it wasn't too bad, I was able to work and stay active, except for a few days after each treatment...

    Good luck!

    Oxana

  • flannelette
    flannelette Member Posts: 984
    edited January 2011

    Hi Emily - My chemo ended 2 yrs ago. At that time it was 6 rounds of FEC - no D (or T). so i can only talk about the FEC. which was totally doable. Never barfed but did feel 'queasy" but you get lots of help with antinausea drugs. Also steroids after each infusion, which I loved. Nurses treat you like gold. I did not have a port, so my only apprehension was the last 2 infusions as my veins did not like being poked at all! So they'd give me an atavan (tranquillizer) soon as I came in. If you are anxious, ask for one anyway.

    I had digestive upsets - eating too much at one time made me feel like leadbelly, and lots of truly obnoxious gas. And I never knew what would taste good as the taste buds are like freshly created and something may taste great (such as PC frozen blueberry cheesecake) going down but 10 minutes later mouth like a garbage can. so i brushed my teeth & flossed about 6 times a day, so that when I finally did see a dentist my gums had hugely improved. silver lining.

    I work for myself - so would work from early mornnig till maybe noon or so then crash wherever and whenever my body said so.

    OInly had the dry heaves twice - once when I took garbage to the dump (???duh) and once when I tried getting into my over-heated car and it smelled. I did barf a bit into a snowbank.

    Could not stand the taste of water, so learned to eat cold watermelon and cantaloupe for their high water content, to stay hydrated. someone here suggested frfozen pineapple cubes.

    Ate like a pig oink oink as it always seemed to feel better to have food in my stomach than not.

    One of them - f or E or c - gives you pink pee for a few days. and after 2 weeks all your hair does fall out. I just wore berets, it being winter. Gorgeous curly hair was what grew in - another silver lining.

    I found i was progressively more tired toward the end and was glad I ended it all in 6 rounds.

    These days they give you things to bring up your white blood cell counts etc. - I never had them.

    it's very nice to take someone along with you, to chat, and hold your hand - but some people i know took laptops.

    when I'd get up I'd feel exactly the same as when i came in - nothing weird takes over, like Dr. jekyll & Mr. Hyde. You could just go off to Tim's, if so inclined. But coffee did taste awful after a while.

    others here may have some things to say about D - i've no idea about comparisons between the 2, but the oncs must feel it's a better protocol.

    All the best - you can do it!

    Arlene

  • EmilyInOntario
    EmilyInOntario Member Posts: 626
    edited January 2011

    Thanks Souad and Oksana...trying not to get too stressed over it all but it's hard not to. I'll probably be less anxious once I've had the first treatment behind me and know what to expect. Thanks for your replies and ideas...

  • crazy4carrots
    crazy4carrots Member Posts: 5,324
    edited January 2011

    Emily -- The MOST important thing to remember about preventing nausea which is a definite SE of FEC, is to take the pills BEFORE you start feeling nauseous.  They don't work to stop nausea, they work to prevent it. You'll get two types probably -- they may be Kytril and Stemetil.  Take them for the first 4 days exactly as directed.  Other than losing hair, that's the most worrisome SE of chemo.  And if you find those anti-nausea meds aren't working, call your onc immediately and ask for an alternative.

    We'll be thinking of you Friday and I hope you'll think of us too -- we made it through and so will you!  Please stay in touch.  If you have what you think is an unusual SE, tell us about it.  I guarantee at least one or more of us experienced it too!.

    Many hugs,    Linda

  • EmilyInOntario
    EmilyInOntario Member Posts: 626
    edited January 2011

    Well I made it through my first day of chemo. I felt fine until about 4 hours after the chemo ended. Took all my anti-nausea meds so I didn't feel too nauseated, just felt like I had a sudden bad flu after being run over by a Mac truck. Found myself needing to lie on the couch most of the evening but discovered ice water tasted better than tap water and keeping small amounts of food in the stomach really did help. It's now been about 13 hours since treatment finished and I feel better than I did earlier. Not sure how this goes from here..can I expect to feel worse on day 2 and 3 or better?

    Some of my problem may be that I am very run down from the ordeal of the bone biopsy yesterday and stress of that and today's treatment. Have slept poorly the last few nights. I'm wondering if I will feel well enough for my MUGA scan Monday?

  • EmilyInOntario
    EmilyInOntario Member Posts: 626
    edited January 2011

    Also getting Neulasta injection  later today...will that make me feel worse? Have any of you had that?

    Thanks for all your input!!!

  • momtomygirls
    momtomygirls Member Posts: 119
    edited January 2011

    Hi Emily,

    I had some aches in my neck and lower back the next day after the neulasta shot (nothing major).  Also, on Day 8 I would be very tired,  I used to get an extremely dry mouth and my tongue would feel funny.  The doctor game me a precription for "magic mouthwash" and that helped a lot.  Just remember that everyone reacts differently.  I hope the SE are minimal for you!

  • loving_mother
    loving_mother Member Posts: 57
    edited February 2011

    How do they determine who gets FEC-D vs FEC?

  • Luah
    Luah Member Posts: 1,541
    edited February 2011

    loving_mother: I posted on another thread. The D is often used when tumours are large, aggressive, lymph nodes involved and/or triple negative etc. FEC-D is a very common regime - are you in Canada?

  • loving_mother
    loving_mother Member Posts: 57
    edited February 2011

    Yes, I am TN and am on 6 FEC, do you think this is okay

  • EmilyInOntario
    EmilyInOntario Member Posts: 626
    edited February 2011

    Just an update..Had my second round of chemo yesterday. I felt pretty rough the first round for the first few days, especially day 4 and 5 but was feeling almost normal by day 8. Then by the end of week 2 I had problems with an infected tooth and finally had it pulled 3 days go so round one wasn't great. So far this round 2 I am feeling fairly miserable and can't imagine how some of you went to work, but hopefully in a few more days I'll be past the worst of this again.

  • whitecotton
    whitecotton Member Posts: 106
    edited February 2011

    I had 3 rounds of fec and then 3 round of taxotere ( I think that is the D?)

    I found the fec easy Except day 3-5. but the taxotere was really hard for me and I ended up in the hospital. this was 4years ago when they did not give the neulesta shot. So it seems they are giving it now so that is a really good thing. Just remember to take it easy and this is the time in your life to ask for help! Good luck and you are in my prayers.

  • Luah
    Luah Member Posts: 1,541
    edited February 2011

    EmilyinOntario: Sorry to hear about your tooth, the exact same thing happened to me, midway through my chemo.  Hope the rest is smoother sailing for you.

  • Poca68
    Poca68 Member Posts: 1
    edited February 2012

    Starting fec d chemo on mar 6/12, I supposed to check with manulife who is my ext benefits to see if they cover neulasta.

    Invasive ductual carcinoma 1.6 tumor at 1 o'clock, situ calcifications at 5 o'clock. 9 nodes removed and clear. Triple negative. Bi lateral masectomy on jan 23/12. With direct implants.

    I'm still so very sore from the surgery, I would like a break before chemo but at the same time just want to push forward.

    I'm 43, thankfully my children are grown and I have a benefit plan. Many hoops to jump through but at lest being paid a little bit. I'm single as well so income is a concern. I have an axcellenrt support circle of friends and my daughter has been awesome. Just trying to stay in the moment and let each day come.

  • VeronicaX
    VeronicaX Member Posts: 35
    edited February 2012

    I have started the FEC-D in January . I have done 2 rounds and i ahve 4 more to go but I strated with Taxotere. I am taking it well, it's not that bad . I mean it's chemo and my skin is dehidrated, my hair is gone, etc etc, but it is doable.

  • bwah
    bwah Member Posts: 14
    edited February 2012

    Hi Girls,

     I am in Montreal. I will start my Fec D on 22 feb. very scared now. your posts help me calm down a little.

    Thanks

  • KCB
    KCB Member Posts: 365
    edited March 2012

    Hi to the 2012 FEC-D ladies! I am starting on march 13, and getting a little anxious. Mostly about the D part... I hear it knocks you right down.

  • VeronicaX
    VeronicaX Member Posts: 35
    edited March 2012

    I started the FECD in Januaray and I have had my 4th round now. I started with Taxotere first, at my request. Many seem to be afraid of Taxotere but it went quite well. I had no nausea and I was able to eat and excercise throughout all 3 rounds. I had pain from the Neulasta injections though ( days 4-6). Last week I started the FEC part and I had some nausea but not too bad . The antiemetic medication ( Apo- Prochlorazine- orange pill every 4 hours) made me very sleepy and drowsy. I am off all meds now but my energy level is less than with Taxotere. I was only able to exercise 15 minutes on the eliptical, with taxotere I was able to do at least 30 minutes, easily. It could be from the diffrent regimen or maybe from the cummulative effect . In any case, I can't wait for all 6 rounds to be over .

    I can't wait for me to strat rejuvenating my body rather than wating for another two atomic bombs :) 

  • KCB
    KCB Member Posts: 365
    edited March 2012

    Veronica: sounds like you're doing well, that's encourageing for me...I just started my first round of FEC, March 13, so I'm on day 15... and waiting for my hair to drop.I had very minimal nausea, but otherwise felt like I'd been hit by a truck, pretty useless, until about day 10. If you don't mind my asking, why did you ask for Taxotere first? It occurred to me after the fact, but I didn't know I could ask...

  • marjie
    marjie Member Posts: 1,134
    edited March 2012

    I did FEC-D last year....the FEC was hard on me because of how I metabolized the drugs, ended up in the hospital like clockwork, day 7 every time.  Even had to have a blood transfusion...ick.  Neulasta didn't work for me so I did Neupogen which worked but was just slow to do so.  For as sick as I was on the FEC, I didn't feel that bad although my oncologist kept referring to me as "critically ill".  I started taxotere (docetaxol) and I felt like I'd been hit by a Mack truck....but medically, my onc thought I had vastly improved and I didn't need to be hospitalized anymore.

    It's so different how everyone reacts to chemo - I know a young lady who continued to work all the way through and although I know she had bad days, I know for a fact there was no way I would have been able to!

    Veronica - are you HER2 negative?  That is likely why you were able to switch the order around and do taxotere first.  I am HER2+ and had herceptin as well (18 x) ...they can't give herceptin with the FEC, it's way too heart toxic.

  • VeronicaX
    VeronicaX Member Posts: 35
    edited April 2012

    I am HER2 negative. There is a study showing that if you start with Taxotere first, the regimen is better tolerated. Not that it works better, but the SE are less. I am going this week for my second FEC. So far so good, it was similar with Taxotere but i did not have pain in my bines or muscles at all. Also, i remember that while I had my first round of Taxotere there was a woman getting FEC in the chemo room and she said she had no SE at all which encouraged me. She was getting her third round. I am hoping to encourage those who are scared as i was scared too . It is not easy but maybe not that bad as we first think it would be.

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