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  • kittycat
    kittycat Member Posts: 2,144
    edited January 2011

    MBJ - I was having one of those days yesterday.  I just couldn't pull it together.  One of my college friends had stage 4 colon cancer and suddenly took a turn for the worse about a week ago.  She passed away on Monday.  I was doing okay during treatments, but now I am really sad and scared.  It sucks!!!  I try to find the little joys in my life.  You are a great person and have brought so much to these boards. I love your insights on nutrition, supplements, hair products and hair styling!!!  Please don't leave us.  You are an inspiration!!!  :)

  • kittycat
    kittycat Member Posts: 2,144
    edited January 2011

    OK MBJ - I posted some seriously funny pics in the hair hair hair thread.  That ought to make you laugh!!!  :)

  • kegparsons2
    kegparsons2 Member Posts: 3
    edited January 2011

    Titan, Thanks for the post.  Age: 57 -Got layoff notice April 2010 (29 years w/CSC), decided to head to toe DR visits, mammo (2 years between great and godawful results).  Right breast ~2.4cm "poorly defferentiate carcinoma" from initial biopsy in 4/22.  Focused on lumpetcomy vs mastetomy at first, did bi-lateral because of statistical results of just doing one and having recurrance in left breast was 50% and I only wanted to do this once.  BEST decision I could make for myself 6/18.  Family history - BRAC 1 and 2 were negative.  Sential node was also requested - 14 nodes taken all negative...doing happy dance of a moment.  Told not so fast, need to go to oncologist - did 4 different opinions because of the "profile" of TNS - under 40/premenaposal/african american women, which I am none of...had the results re-run.  Grade III (pt2/pn0, pmx) and HER-2 negative, KI-67 at 85%.  Found the best oncologist out of the group of 4 - one told me without treatment I would die within 2 years,  Left that office never to return. 

    My chosen oncologist used Adjuvant! On-line decision tool to help with the chemo decision.  Please ask for this one page report it gives an overview of statistics and benefits:

    1 - no additional therapy

    2 - with hormonal therapy

    3 - with chemotherapy

    4 - with combined therapy and the projected benefits focused on relaspe

    Rediagnosised as Stage IIA(T2 N0 M0)

    Two cycles of TAC complicated by hospitalization (neutrapenic after Nulasta booster); 2 Blood transfusion needed hospital stays totalled 12 days.

    TAC = Please ask for the Patient drug information so you know warnings before starting.

    T= Taxotere (Docetaxel)

    A= Adria (we had a US shortage of this drug at XMAS0 and changed to Epirubicin)

    C=Cyclophosphamide

    Did AC portion 4 times every 3 weeks; follow up currently with 6 weekly rounds of Taxotere, on my 5th round today.  I can not believe how many women are being diagnosed with this who do not fit the "profile".  Right now, my onc believes that I won't have the need for any post-chemo drugs..I'd do a happy dance, but I know what happened last time!

    I joined Gilda's Club, if there is one near you, it's a great support organization.

  • kelben
    kelben Member Posts: 269
    edited January 2011

    So MBJ.......... as you can see even if we don't post very often we are still here.   Meltdowns are a part of all this, I don;t know about others but I usually feel better after I've vented abit.

    ((((((hugs))))))   I hope today dawns brighter for you.

  • mitymuffin
    mitymuffin Member Posts: 337
    edited January 2011

    cc4npg, Well said!

    MPJ,  Bless your heart darling. 

    Heidi, thanks for the article. 

  • monisch
    monisch Member Posts: 57
    edited January 2011

    hi Ladies,  haven't been here for a long time. very active forum   !!! Hard to keep up with all the postings. Im finally thru with the Chemo part of my treatment and now in my 4th week of Radiation. So far im doing okay.. no skin irritation or anything... skin has gotten browner and have a bit of sensitivity in the area where they give the rads.  Do any of you still have numb feet and hands after the chemo ??? anyone with ugly brown fingernails with strips of brown going across them ( my nails only the last three fingers of each hand )?  how ,ong does it take before that all goes away ????  Oh by the way my Dog bite has finally healed.. took over 6 weeks !!  the first 3 weeks i was at the hospital everyday to have bandages changed, after that 2x per week.

    Now I just have a nasty scar on my hand..... once again please take care not to get any kind of animal bites while your on chemotherapy... it can get infected and that'll put you in the hospital like me. Was almost what would have killed me not the cancer.

    hope yolu ladies have a wonderful day......

  • Lovelyface
    Lovelyface Member Posts: 674
    edited January 2011

    MBJ -  We have been having a few springlike weather here in California which kinda brought about a little bit happiness in my heart.  Although I was going through a lot, it still brought some smile and a feeling of joy.  I hope the spring which is just around the corner will bring happiness and joy to your heart, too.  How are you feeling today?

    Monisch -I was wondering how much time did you have in between your chemo and when you started radiation? Did your doc tell you how much is the maximum time before someone should start radiation?  I have to do my genetic test which will take 3 weeks, plus I have already wasted 4 weeks just waiting for this and that.  I am afraid my radiation is getting late.

    I still have numbness in my feet and hands when I am asleep at night, trying to get up I have to first wake up these parts.  My fingernails are still black/brown (finished chemo on 12/28/10). The thumbs are blackish, but the other fingers have brown lines going across at the edges.

  • Suze35
    Suze35 Member Posts: 1,045
    edited January 2011

    Woo hoo - I have a surgery date!  March 10th.  The countdown begins...I'm even starting to see hair back on my head!

    Monisch - I have been lucky in that my nails only got a little brownish from the AC, and they are half grown out.  I only have a smidge of numbness in my fingertips, still have three treatments to go though, so we'll see.  I hope it grows out for you quickly!

    My big problem right now is heartburn, ugh.  I am taking Zantac, Prilosec, AND some kind of liquid, and it is still killing me.  I am hoping that I don't get an ulcer from all this, and I'll be seeing a gasteroenterologist just to be sure, but man this sucks.

    Lovelyface - oh, I would love to see a hint of spring.  We just got hit with another 8 inches of snow last night.  We have 2-3 feet on the ground now.  Send some of that weather out my way!

    MBJ - I hope today is a little brighter for you.  I totally understand taking a break.  Take care of yourself, everyone will be here when you are ready.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited January 2011

    MBJ: Hope today is good for you. Definitely take a break, but don't stay away forever. Pls pop in once in a while to say hi.

    Lovelyface & Suze35: I'm worried about the neuropathy (will likely find out about my chemo regimen onMonday at onc appt.). I already have issues in both hands, esp. at night, from carpal tunnel and what I think is an impinged nerve in my right shoulder.Are any chemo drugs worse for causing this? Is it said to be permanent or do they say it will go away?

    Of course, I trust my docs but it seems often we get the real, first-hand truth here, from each other, so I appreciate any info.

  • Suze35
    Suze35 Member Posts: 1,045
    edited January 2011

    Michelle - Taxol is the culprit for neuropathy. It happens more frequently with dose dense I believe. I am doing weekly Taxol, which is more gentle, and some studies suggest more effective for TN, although not by a big percentage. If you are worried, don't hesitate to talk with your doctor, maybe even suggest the weekly doses. Also, if it starts to get bad, they can switch you to Taxotere I think. It can be permanent :(. Just another crappy risk we face when fighting this $@&!. I notice the numbness for a few days after treatment, then it resolves, so I think I'll get lucky I hope.

  • LRM216
    LRM216 Member Posts: 2,115
    edited January 2011

    Michelle:

    I got instant neuropathy of all my fingers and all my toes after just the first Taxol.  I saw the onc the next day and she was alarmed.  I was on the DD 4 xs Taxol.  By the time my second round was due, neuropathy was still the same - hadn't lessened or worsened at all.  She didn't care - she switched me immediately to Taxotere for the remaining three doses.  I was leery, but she did say taxotere is nasty, very strong, but is easier on the neuropathy.  She was correct - it never worsened at all on the taxotere.  took about 6 months after I was done for my fingers to come back (I would say about 98%) but my toes still feel like little cocktail franks sticking off my feet.  Oh well - it could be worse I suppose, just hope all this crap works!!  Good luck.

  • Lovelyface
    Lovelyface Member Posts: 674
    edited January 2011

    Michelle, Suze35, LRM216 - My neuropathy is very strange, although another BC woman has told me she also has had a similar experience.  In addition to my fingers and toes and the bottom of my feet, I also feel weird sensations in my back skin.  I feel my clothes touching my back skin, which I never really used to feel before.  It is as if the skin has become sensitive all over my back skin.  This happened with dose dense Taxol, which I did every two weeks.  My toe nails are all still black.

  • LRM216
    LRM216 Member Posts: 2,115
    edited January 2011

    Lovelyface:

    Neuropathy can hit anyplace in your body where you have nerves - which is everywhere!  I have read of gals that have had it in their faces, or chin - lips, etc.  While mine was very annoying - I am thankful I just had it in fingers and toes, but I did occasionally feel other areas either "burning" or very sensitive to touch, ie. clothes rubbing, but it was transitory.  They say most of it goes away completely eventually,but there are others many years out that still have it, but much lighter than during and immediately after chemo.  I'm still hoping mine will go completely too - but who knows!  My toe nails started to lift (big toes) and I had to see a podiatrist that cut them really, really low.  They have come in much thicker than they ever were and are hard to clip with a toe nail clipper, but he says that once the grow completely out, they should be good as new.  Hope it happens in this lifetime!

  • MonikaV
    MonikaV Member Posts: 201
    edited January 2011

    MBJ I love your postings you are always so honest and true to yourself. Please know that I  care. Sorry you are feeling blue. Since you live in Los Angeles I was thinking maybe one day we can go out for lunch. Since I am about one hour from you...what do you think about meeting half way? Please PM me if you are interested .

    HEIDI thank you for the article, as usual very informative. Smile

    Titan how are you ? 

  • loving_mother
    loving_mother Member Posts: 57
    edited January 2011

    How many TN's undergo chemo after surgery? My oncologist recomended going six times for FEC and I was wondering if anyone has done this treatment. Did they find it effective and how were the side effects

  • kittycat
    kittycat Member Posts: 2,144
    edited January 2011

    I'm thinking about getting a massage this weekend.  I feel all jacked up these days.  Everything feels sore and achey.  I still have numb toes, but my legs are so sore.  I didn't feel like this while on chemo.  Maybe it's a nerve thing.  I don't know!

    MBJ - please come back and post here.  I love your comments!  :)

    loving mother - I think most TN's have chemo, mine was after surgery. 

  • loving_mother
    loving_mother Member Posts: 57
    edited January 2011

    Anyone have any feedback on FEC?

  • beccad
    beccad Member Posts: 326
    edited January 2011
    Kittycat, did you have chemo before surgery also? I am about to have my 6th chemo of Taxotere, Adriamycin, and cytoxin on Feb 8, and then surgery sometime the end of Feb or beginning of March (date not set yet), and the BS and Onc are talking about more chemo befor Rads.   I am just so tired of Chemo.  Cry 
  • JenC
    JenC Member Posts: 382
    edited January 2011

    MBJ - Hope you are feeling a little more like yourself.  You are an inspiration to me and feel comfortable saying for alot of the woman on here to.  Please dont stay away to long and if you need to vent you know we are all here and you can pm me anytime.  Huge hugs (((((((((((((((((()))))))))))))))))))))

  • kelben
    kelben Member Posts: 269
    edited January 2011

    I had chemo after surgery, TC.   I would say that it wasn't fun but doable.   4 tx every 21 days.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited January 2011

    kelben: How are you? I've been thinking of you since you posted about the seroma. I hope everything's ok.

    Titan: You've been quiet too....I hope you're out enjoying life! Thinking of you too...and all the TNs I've come to know & love on this thread.

    Get my BRCA results in a couple of hours. Fingers crossed.

  • kelben
    kelben Member Posts: 269
    edited January 2011

    I'm here Michelle.   I am waiting for my biopsy on Thursday, next week.   I am very afraid they are going to dx non-Hogkins lymphoma.  Of course I have no idea, but the longer we wait on these tests, the more time we have to look things up.  Who ever thought you could get cancer from chemo....not me thats for sure.    The genetic people at the cancer centre is going to do the BRCA test.   Good luck Michelle, I'll be thinking about you too.

  • Fighter_34
    Fighter_34 Member Posts: 834
    edited January 2011

    Awwh Kelben I have been thinking and praying for you constantly. Things will work out!

    Also about the temps I am low as well 94.3. Wired what's the explanation for this?? Although I was cold before cancer especially at work. I always keep a small heater under my desk. Is anyone else working while going through treatments?

  • TifJ
    TifJ Member Posts: 1,568
    edited January 2011

    Michelle- wishing your results are negative! I think waiting is worse than actually finding out the results!

    Kelben- praying and sending you good thoughts as well!

  • LRM216
    LRM216 Member Posts: 2,115
    edited January 2011

    Kelben: Waiting is a bit$h, for sure, but PLEASE try not to torture yourself with thinking of what it may or could be.  I know only too well that it's almost impossible not to do that to ourselves, but go as easy on yourself as possible and eat lots of ativan or xanax instead!  We are all with you - right there beside you.

    Linda

  • Fighter_34
    Fighter_34 Member Posts: 834
    edited January 2011

    MBJ: I follow and lurk you. LOL I value your advice.

    I know how you FEEL. Hubby and me are going through a pretty rough patch right now so I cry A LOT over this and having cancer. I am crying while typing this. I am just scared and I just want someone to tell me everything is going to be okay, but they can't.

    Sorry you guys for ranting when I am suppose to be uplifting.

  • Suze35
    Suze35 Member Posts: 1,045
    edited January 2011

    Loving_mother - I am having my chemo before surgery, and most likely won't need more, but it is still possible depending on my surgical outcome. Most TNs get chemo either befor or after. I haven't heard much about FEC, hopefully someone has.



    Kittycat - a massage sounds heavenly! Even if it isn't a cure all, it certainly won't hurt!



    Michelle - keeping my fingers crossed that you are negative!



    Kelben - thinking of you...it sucks to even think that what have to do NOW may come back to bite us in the butt later :( - but I will keep another pair of fingers crossed that everything works out for you. Stay off the Google!!



    Fighter - don't feel bad for ranting! You have so much on your emotional plate, keeping it in only makes it worse. I'm sorry to hear you and your DH are struggling right now. Even though DH and I are pretty solid, we have scheduled therapy for us because we just seem to be ripping at the seams sometimes. On top of this awful diagnosis, well...rant away!



    I'm feeling physically better this week, which I hope means no Neupogen shots next week.



    Question - when did you guys have your port removed? I am leaving it in after my first surgery in case I need more chemo, but didn't know if I should leave it there until my reconstruction a few months down the line? Is it easy to remove? I had a fairly bad placement, and don't want to go through that again in terms of removal.

  • TifJ
    TifJ Member Posts: 1,568
    edited January 2011

    Fighter- So sorry to hear you are having a rough time. I cry alot over the whole cancer situation too. I am done with chemo and should be feeling better right? Wrong- I still have an infection from my port (have been on antibiotics since 1-6), I have an open incision (very painful) where the port was taken out, and I woke up this morning to find myself covered in a rash. I feel like- why can't I get a break? Haven't I endured enough?  There are just some days that we are not going to be positive or uplifting and we are entitled! Don't ever apologize for having a bad day, week or whatever!! The fear of the unknown gets to us all.

    {{{{{{Hugs}}}}}}

    Tiffany

  • MBJ
    MBJ Member Posts: 4,352
    edited January 2011

    Hi everyone--still in quite a bit of a funk, so much so that I just cried some more after reading all of your wonderful posts.  Just need to take a break for a few days, so that I am not just moping around on here.

    Michelle:  Get L-Glutamine 1000 mg to try and prevent neuropathy while undergoing chemo.  I have it really bad in my hands and it wakes me up every night now and makes me walk like I am 90.

  • lindaa
    lindaa Member Posts: 119
    edited January 2011

    Just jumping in here.  There are so many pages to this thread, it is hard to follow.  Dx June 2010just shy of 50th b-day, TNBC and IBC.  As if having one kind wasn't bad enough!  Started off ok on carbo, taxol, avastin, but then that course ended with things getting bigger again, but nothing new showing up.  Off to dana farber and their IBC dept.  Did only 3 of the 4 prescribed DD A/C.  Breast swelled and then I got a small spot on rib while on AC.  Now on xeloda pills, zometa, and lexmpra.  Tomorrow I am going to funeral of friend who just succumbed to BC (she was ER+).  She was 44 and leaves husband and daughters aged 11 and 13.  I don't usually wear a wig, so with my caps I will stand out as the 'other' BC cancer patient there.  Not looking forward to it.

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