Herceptin yes or no
Just had a mastectomy in December. The biopsy had stated DCIS. The oncology Dr. said
I would need herceptin for a year because my Her-2 was positive. I'm 75 now and a whole year of
my few left seems like a long time to not feel well. All this is giving me much depression and I'm all alone and afraid I could not take care of myself through such treatment.
Will it be a big mistake to skip the treatment?
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bravenewworld, I'm sorry that you've been diagnosed and are now faced with this decision.
Herceptin is not approved for those who have pure DCIS. My guess is that while your initial biopsy showed DCIS, your final pathology must have included some invasive cancer. Your diagnosis therefore would not be considered to be DCIS (even though DCIS was present) - it would be changed to IDC. And your treatment will be based on the amount of and pathology of the invasive cancer, because this is a more serious condition.
My suggestion is that you ask for a copy of your pathology report from your mastectomy and also ask your doctor for more information about your diagnosis. The question as to how much risk you expose yourself to by skipping Herceptin depends to some extent on how much invasive cancer was present, and the pathology of that cancer. Current treatment guidelines (here are the NCCN Treatment Guidelines for patients) suggest that Herceptin be considered for those who have invasive tumors that are 6mm in size or larger (if grade 2 or 3 or if ER/PR-) but some doctors recommend Herceptin for even smaller tumors. If your tumor falls into this smaller size range, then you are in the grey zone on whether or not Herceptin is indicated and there may be less risk in passing on Herceptin. However if your tumor is 1cm in size or greater, then there would be few if any doctors who would agree that you could give a pass to Herceptin. HER2+ breast cancer is very aggressive and Herceptin is effective at bringing the risk level back down to 'average' levels.
Once you get a copy of your pathology report and more information about your cancer, I'd suggest that you pose this question again in the HER2+ forum on this discussion board. That's where you'll find all the women with experience with Herceptin.
Good luck!
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Thank you for the good information Beesie.
Should there be a chance of having cancer somewhere else in my body right now would this chemical work against it? I'm feeling very down about all this and it is nice to have someone to
talk to.
Donna
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Donna, how you are feeling is perfectly normal! A diagnosis of breast cancer brings out a whole new range of emotions and feelings and fears. It's overwhelming. The great thing about this website is that no matter how strange you think your experience or feeling is, chances are that there are others here who've had the same experience or felt that same thing.
With regard to your question, I don't know much about Herceptin but my understanding is that yes, if you have some rogue cancer cells floating around in your body right now, the role of Herceptin would be to track them down and kill them off. You'll find a lot more knowledge about Herceptin here: Breast Cancer Forum: HER2/neu Positive Breast Cancer (I hope the links works).
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I have been told thru a biopsy that I have DCIS w/ HER2+ microinvasion of tubular. I understand that HER2+ is like a death sentence and only Herceptin is available to treat it. Tubular cancer is thought to be low grade and neg Her2 and very treatable. So now i'm thinking either I really have DCIS only with HER2 or Tubular w. HER2- which makes no sense but I guess it will after I have the surgery and see the pathology report then. Then i'll know for sure what I really have. Would would be a better prognsis? PURE DCIS her2+ or DCIS tubular invasive HER2-?
also...
ER/PR+over 90% Her2 = 2+ considered neg. (would some please tell me what this means? I saw this in someone's sig line and don't understand it)
Thanks a million for your time,
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Please check out the Her2+ board that Beesie mentions above. Herceptin has very few side effects, it is not a chemotherapy. Herceptin targets a protein that your particular cancer needs to grow, and it kills off that protein. It doesn't kill all the fast-growing cells in your body like other cancer treatments can.
I have been getting Herceptin for a year and a half now. I don't have any reaction to it at all. I'm sure others will share side effects that have happened to them, but overall this is a VERY tolerable drug. And it saves tons of lives!
Herceptin may not be approved for DCIS only, but doctors out there certainly use it for that. So please, talk to your oncologist and don't assume that you have microinvasions. You could certainly have a DCIS only, stage 0 diagnosis, and the Herceptin could be something your doc wants you to do as "insurance." Because Herceptin is easy to tolerate, it's worth considering.
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Donna, HER2+ is very aggressive. Herceptin, for the job it does, is SO easy for the majority of people. The most prominant side effect that I've heard women speak of is a runny nose. I was on it myself and have no problems saying it's worth a try. Herceptin is a miracle drug in combating HER2+ and you have a very high probabilty of tolerating it with nothing more than the runny nose. Please consider trying it. It could mean a world of difference in how you beat cancer.
Best Wishes
Bonnie
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