Just Diagnosed - Double Mastectomy Scheduled

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Herky
Herky Member Posts: 29
Hi everyone, and thanks so much for this forum. I've been reading some of the posts and they've been very helpful. I'm 37 and on 1/7/11 I went for a mammogram that came back abnormal. My previous mammogram was April of 2009 and was normal (I go yearly because my mom has breast cancer, but got pregnant and had a baby after the 2009 mammogram). The mass is palpable, but I didn't think much of it because I had blocked ducts when I breastfed. I was referred to a surgeon and sent me for an MRI on 1/13/11, then biopsied two sites where the lump is and did a biopsy of one of my intramammary lymph nodes on 1/14/11. He actually told me at the time that he would be "shocked" if it wasn't cancer, so when I got the results that it was DCIS on 1/18 I was excited that both biopsies of the site showed DCIS and the lymph node was negative. He said the mass on the MRI showed up about 9cm but he thought it would actually be smaller - maybe 6 or 7. Because it is so large he said my only option is a mastectomy and I've made the decision to have both removed because I don't want to take the chance of something coming back. I'm hormone receptor negative, but I don't really know what that means other than I can't be treated with hormone therapy? The really bad part is the cell type is comedo necrosis. I'm terrified that when he does the mastectomy he's going to find that there is invasive cancer (he's also going to do an SNB). I know I should be encouraged by what the biopsies showed, but it's hard. From what I can tell there's a huge difference in my prognosis between it just being DCIS and having invasive cancer especailly with the comedo cells. I'm fine with the mastectomy - I have a lot more to loose than just my boobs if I don't. There's so much to learn and I don't know what questions to ask, all I really want to know no one can tell me until I get the final pathology done. Can anyone tell me how often there's a biopsy showing DCIS but when surgery is done they find it's invasive? If it's spread to the lymph nodes would it show up in the intramammary first or the axillary? It's like never, right?Wink 

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  • jacee
    jacee Member Posts: 1,384
    edited January 2011

    Herky-Well, so sorry you are going through this. Good for you for getting mammograms even before age 40!!! You've gotten great results already through your biopsy...with DCIS and negative IM node. I'm not real familiar with DCIS, because mine was IDC. You WILL feel much better when you know exactly what you are dealing with.

    My SNB showed 2 sentinel nodes. One was axillary and one was an IM node. Both were removed and were positive. This is VERY rare for an IM node to be a sentinel node. Probably 99% of the time, if there is any spread, it goes to the axillary node first. So, yes as you say "like, never, right".

    I also chose bilateral mx, though one was delayed and was done during my recent DIEP reconstruction.

    Hopefully you're SNB is soon, and you will get some answers, and then you can research and get a plan in place. This board is a great resource, so please feel free to continue asking questions. I'm sure some ladies with a DCIS diagnosis will be along soon to add some insight to your situation.

    Take a deep breath, and know you are not alone here, and among friends.

    Hugs to you,

    Joni 

  • leeinfl
    leeinfl Member Posts: 317
    edited January 2011

    Herky - sorry that you've joined our club but you'll get through this! I was diagnosed with DCIS and made the same decision. I had a double mastectomy just about a year ago. My DCIS was also widespread and also comedo necrosis. My margins and the SNB were clear. Waiting is the worst part but hang in there and hopefully your path results will be good as well. So glad that you have been getting your yearly mammograms. Like you, my mother also had breast cancer so I had been getting my mammograms longer than I can remember. You caught this super early - breathe, have faith - many hugs!!

    Lee

  • Herky
    Herky Member Posts: 29
    edited January 2011

    Thanks for your support. It's comforting to hear from at least one person that had DCIS that was still DCIS after the mastectomy. Waiting is really hard. I feel like I didn't catch this early enough. How did it grow from nothing to 9cm in a year and a half?  I keep beating myself up for not going sooner. My breasts changed so much with pregnancy and breastfeeding I really just didn't think much of it. I also don't know how to tell my girls about it. I have a 1 year old that thankfully doesn't know what's going on, but my 2 1/2 year old knows there's something up and yet I can't explain it to her so she understands.

  • lovesnature
    lovesnature Member Posts: 82
    edited January 2011

    Herky I can't give you statistics, but I can share my story.

    I was diagnosed with DCIS in May 2010.  Grade 3, comedonecrosis, hormone negative. My DCIS was widespread, and I also had Paget's. Needless to say I was freaked out!

     To make a long story short,  It turned out to be ALL DCIS. No IDC, no microinvasion. 

    August 2010 I had bilateral mastectomies, with expanders placed at time of surgery. Currently waiting for exchange surgery in late Feb. or March..

     Hang in there sweetie, right now is the worst. Having negative nodes is a very, very good thing.

  • JAT
    JAT Member Posts: 81
    edited January 2011

    Herky-- I had a bilateral mx in June 2008 for extensive high grade DCIS.No invasion turned up (I had 3 different pathologists at different hospitals examine the specimens).  I chose to do a prophy on the left because the MRI looked suspicious and I'm a worrier by nature, plus I had some blood issues that made taking tamoxifen risky for me.  One thing that made the surgery a bit easier for me was to do a nipple sparing mx on the prophy side (this was discussed by my PS and BS-- the BS said no to the procedure for the cancer side- -- and the PS did a nipple sharing graft to make my new nipple, followed by the areola tattoo)-- Just keeping the nipple on the healthy breast made the prophy side still look "natural" and emotionally this helped a lot. I don't know what your plans are for reconstruction (or not), since you're at the start of all this, but be sure to discuss all your options with both your BS and PS in agreement.

     My daughter was 2 1/2 at the time-- she has no memory of my surgeries and recovery and when I've undressed in front of her she's never commented on my scars--  my breasts look fairly real now and this is all she really knows anyway.  At the time my sister came to help so my husband could take care of me and my daughter's routine wasn't disrupted. I think we just said "mommy has some booboos to take care of," and I needed to be careful about her getting too close, or lifting her for a while after the surgery (that's hard with little ones!).  I didn't want to scare her (I was scared enough) and I did all my crying in the car. I think if she were older she would have been more aware and worried.  

    Hang in there-- this is the hardest part-- I think even tougher than the surgery-- just waiting and not knowing what to expect. The women on this board are amazing. I discovered it after my surgery, which I regret, but since then it's been very useful and emotionally supportive. And don't beat yourself up about not finding the cancer sooner. I had a clean mammogram the year before, but I wondered, "did I wait long enough after I stopped nursing for a mammogram," or should I have insisted on an MRI since I had dense breasts? Who knows if it would have shown up sooner-- but you found it now and need to get rid of it. Be kind to yourself.

    --Julie

  • Herky
    Herky Member Posts: 29
    edited January 2011

    Wow! You ladies are amazing - thanks so much for sharing and for your support. I am having reconstruction and will have drains, cinnamonsmile, so I'll be sure to remember your hospital tips!  

  • azul115817
    azul115817 Member Posts: 98
    edited January 2011

    It's good to have a plan for the drains - especially in the shower.  My hospital gave out little pouches that hang around your neck and attach to a strap with velcro.  Up to 2 drains fit in each pouch, and it worked great for showering.  I know some people tie something around their waist to hold up the drains.  A nurse friend of mine gave her patients name tag holders (the kind that go around your neck and hang fairly low and the name tag clips on) to string their drains through while showering.

    I had my mastectomy in October, and the recovery wasn't bad at all.  I was too naive  at that point to realize that there was any significant likelihood that I might have invasive cancer in with the DCIS (I guess ignorance was bliss in that situation, as I am a worrier).  Thankfully, my pathology came back as all DCIS.

    Good luck with your surgery!  Keep us posted.

    Heidi

  • merlaine
    merlaine Member Posts: 3
    edited January 2011

    This is my first post... I was diagnosed 12/30/10 with DCIS grade 3 after a sterotactic biopsy.  I pretty much expected results would not be good after my mammo and radiologist used the words alarming, and highly suspicious.  

    Also had an MRI which showed I had multifocal too much DCIS for local excisions as my surgeon felt he would be chasing margins.  I am going to be scheduled tomorrow.  I don't know what the surg date is yet as I am having bilateral mastectomy sentinal nodes on right side and tissue expanders placed by PS  I am so worried it will be invasive somewhere.  I find myself so emotional and have been on the verge of tears all day today.  I have noticed an itchy rash on my left breast.  It's so hard not to worry about the surgery but everytime I have had something done it seems it's worse than I thought.  I had a normal mammogram last year so this is very concerning as it seems it came on sooooo fast!  Just needed to vent, I love this site, it is so going to help me!

  • ladyod
    ladyod Member Posts: 152
    edited January 2011

    Hi Ladies.  I haven't been on this board in months...I was dgxd via mammogram December 2009, needle biopsy confirmed 12/24/2009.  I had a double mx on January 25, 2010.  Cancer Free One Year!!!!  Woo Hoo!!!!  Just here to say that it will get better.  I was really worried also before the surgery:  MRI showed 3 hot spots, widespread right breast.  Post surgery, my path slides showed ALL DCIS in 2 quadrants (grade 2 and 3).  I chose to do both sides with fm hx and glad I did....other side had precancerous cells!  I am so grateful l did both sides! And although it took some time, I can say life will get back to normal.  I know it doesn't seem like it now, but this is just a bump in your life.  DCIS is CURABLE and your life is not in danger since you are addressing the issue....hard not to worry while your going through it, but with time, you too will see that your future is bright.  My biggest advice is to talk to your surgeon about physical therapy.  No one recommended it to me and it took forever to heal.  My PT said this is especially important in young women since we heal quickly.  I was 43.  Now after 24 sessions of PT, reconstructive surgery (implants), and a year to heal, I can honestly say I feel BETTER than before I was diagnosed.   Good luck and God Bless!!!

  • Lovegolf
    Lovegolf Member Posts: 513
    edited January 2011

    All the advise here is good...breathe. I had 2X Mx 5/1/09. There was more DCIS than shown ,but it was all DCIS.  Another I did was to go 3 days ro so after surgery to salon to just get my hair washed and dryed.  It is hard to do yourself but it made me feel so much better.

  • Herky
    Herky Member Posts: 29
    edited February 2011

    Thanks everyone. I'm freaking out today though. When I had my MRI before the biopsy, they found a 9mm mass in my anterior mediastinum and reccommended a chest CT. I had the CT done on Friday and yesterday found out that they believe the 9mm mass is a lymph node, but they found lesions on my liver and reccommended another MRI. It's like running in circles. I'm so concerned that these liver lesions mean it is invasive and has already spread. I'm scheduled for a BMX on the 9th, so my doctor and I discussed it and we're not going to do the MRI right now, we're just going wait and get the final pathology from the BMX and go from there. It's so hard waiting.

  • Lovegolf
    Lovegolf Member Posts: 513
    edited February 2011

    Oh that can knock back on your heels. Breathe..remember the old saying eat an elephant one bite at a time. Will send positive thoughts your way on the 9th and let us know how you do.

    Waiting is the worst..try not to play too much "what if" in your head. Stay in touch

  • sunshinegal
    sunshinegal Member Posts: 209
    edited February 2011

    Hi Herky,

    I am sorry to hear about this latest round of news. There's nothing like adding more uncertainty to the picture! Hopefully they are just being extra cautious and that the liver lesions will be benign, and you will wind up with only DCIS!

    For what it's worth, I am another story of someone who had extensive high grade DCIS (9.5cm) that turned out to be pure DCIS after final pathology, and grade 2/3 instead of all grade 3. I was of course worried about invasion and the waiting between my Oct 6 diagnosis and my Nov 19 path results was very anxiety-filled! As others have said, it was actually the worst part.

    I am now 10.5 weeks post mastectomy, done with fills, and am awaiting my exchange surgery. Life has actually gone pretty much back to normal and I don't think much about cancer -- or maybe I should say, it doesn't strike the same existential fear in me that it did at first. It very much feels like a "bump in the road" as you say. Hopefully it will turn out similarly for you! 

  • 3monstmama
    3monstmama Member Posts: 1,447
    edited February 2011

    Herky,

    My MRI turned up so much stuff including a big funky looking liver thing.  I was scared to death---DCIS I was getting but liver cancer, that was scary.  My then surgeon told me that MRIs are notorious for turning up all sorts of stuff thats actually nothing and sent me for a CAT scan.  I went for the CAT scan as well and it turned out to be just a cyst and completely nothing. 

    Here's hoping your outcome is like mine!

  • beacon800
    beacon800 Member Posts: 922
    edited February 2011

    Sounds like you are getting a very thorough workup and that is a good thing.  Really good thing.  I looked for the same stats you did regarding how often pure in situ cancer turns up to have an invasive component at mastectomy.  I found MD Anderson did a study on that and found it happened 6% of the time.  So odds are good for you not having anything worse.  Hang in there and take it as easy as possible.

  • XmasDx
    XmasDx Member Posts: 225
    edited February 2011

    Herky, to your original question, my bs/surg onc told me there is about a 10% chance that DCIS will turn up with some IDC in the final path post mx.  She said about a 1% chance that the SNB would come back positive.  Not sure if this is my case in particular (grade 2) or DCIS in general...

    My UMX is scheduled for Feb. 28th with immediate DIEP reconstruction.  

    The best to you on the 9th!

  • Herky
    Herky Member Posts: 29
    edited February 2011

    Thanks everyone - you've all made me feel better. I need to just remember to take things one step at a time. Step 1 - BMX. Once I've checked that off my list I'll figure out Step 2. :)

    Sunshinegal - I'm so happy to hear that yours was all DCIS and that you're getting ready for your ES! Best of luck to you!

    XmasDx - Good luck with your UMX on the 28th!

  • Herky
    Herky Member Posts: 29
    edited February 2011

    BMX complete - check! Next on this list is waiting for the final pathlogy. I do know that the surgeon did an SNB and both nodes came back negative, so I only had to have two removed. I've taken a few peeks at what the breasts look like now, and honestly they look better than I thought they wouldl They're really not bad.

  • Lovegolf
    Lovegolf Member Posts: 513
    edited February 2011

    That a girl  Way to go!

  • Herky
    Herky Member Posts: 29
    edited February 2011

    Got great news today! The day of the surgery, the doc did an SNB which resulted in the removal of three nodes (I think I said two before, but I think after talking to him today it was three) - all of which came back negative. Today I got the final pathology results and it came back as ALL DCIS! I'm so excited it's unreal. He did say that there was only a small clean margin next to the pectoral muscle, so he's going to refer me to a radiation oncologist to see if I should have any radiation just to be safe, but for now I'm so relieved that it was all DCIS and they got it all. So far I'm feeling great from the surgery - a little out of it from the meds but getting lots of rest. Thanks so much to everyone for the well-wishes!

  • Lovegolf
    Lovegolf Member Posts: 513
    edited February 2011

    That is great news. Take it easy. I really hit the wall about 3 weeks out. I also found 3:30pm naps to be great.....now I have replaced with 3:30pm expresso

  • beacon800
    beacon800 Member Posts: 922
    edited February 2011

    Way to go - I am sooo happy for you! Please post how your recon is going. I didn't have, but am thinking about it. You got ahead of this disease and good on you! It's nice to hear good news like yours.

  • Herky
    Herky Member Posts: 29
    edited February 2011

    So far, so good. I got my drains out today and I feel like a new woman! I can't wait to start going for fills! Everything has been sort of a blur up until now though - probably because I was so heavily medicated. :)

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