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  • susan_02143
    susan_02143 Member Posts: 7,209
    edited December 2005
    Hi all....

    My gastric adventures are continuing, and in fact I landed in the hospital this week. Following a gazillion tests, no one knows what is wrong. I met with my primary on Friday who simply insisted that I must start to eat and drink again before major organs started to shut down.

    I am being referred to a GI specialist, and if all goes well, I will be able to schedule a meeting sometime in the next two weeks. I am forcing liquids into my body now even though I am uncomfortable. Six days without liquid turns out not to be good for your body!

    Tina, I am looking forward to hearing your pathology report.

    Radiation continues daily, and I am a little pink, but the severe burns have abated. I think of all of you so often, just haven't been able to get to the computer over the past 10 days.

    Here's to all of us feeling better!

    *susan*
  • tornadogirl
    tornadogirl Member Posts: 133
    edited December 2005

    Wow Susan, i am sorry you are feeling sick. Hope they figure it out quickly and cure it! It may have nothing to do with the treatments..."now" we never know if it is treatment related or not!

  • Pegk
    Pegk Member Posts: 389
    edited December 2005
    Susan,
    What a drag! I hope they figure out what's going on soon. Yu need your strength! How far along are you in radiation treatments? Will you be done by Christmas?
    It's something to look forward to. A new year to regain your health and get strong.
    I hope you're feeling better soon.
    Peggy
  • nmherr
    nmherr Member Posts: 63
    edited December 2005
    Hi everyone it has been awhile since I checked the sight. The weather has turned cold and my computer room isn't heated so I have to preheat with a plug in before using. Well I am going for Taxol #3 on Monday. I scheduled an hour of reiki massage for the following Monday so hopefully I will feel better sooner.
    Had a horrible experience with an over reacting Family doctor this week. My White counts were at 54000 and he put me in the hospital on 3 strong antibiotics. They messed me up pretty good. I lost 5 pounds until my Oncs rescued me. I had my arms battered and bruised and 4 different cultures taken and found out there was NOTHING wrong with me. Angry is not a strong enough word. All they did was mess up my week recovery time. The saving factor was the nurses and other staff at the hospital were great but the oncology floor was full so I was in Urology and Respitory. They measured my pee but didn't know why. They did their best but they didn't know what to do with me. It was a nightmare. I would envolve other patients in my nightmare by walking the halls at 2AM with a white blanket around me and my skinny bald head. I wonder how many patients complained of ghosts. So here I am trying to recover but knowing my time is only 2 days to get my weight up. I know it won't happen.
    Ok enough of whining. I was glad to see Peg is on #4. My #4 is the week of Christmas but I will be celebrating. After that it is up to God and me as I will be all finished with treatments.
    Susan
    I had radiation with Hodgkins. Both upper and lower. It is rough. The best food advice I can give you is use your blender with plenty of liquid. Where is it your skin is being burned? My skin burned on the back of my neck. The good news is that everything healed. I hope you find solutions to your pains.
  • txred9876
    txred9876 Member Posts: 392
    edited December 2005
    Well it is day three from surgery and for the most part I am feeling much better then I have in a long time...This has been easier so far then the AC chemo treatments. Sorry to hear some of you having difficulties out there...I am not looking forward to taxol or rads but it is not a choice...

    Have a great day everyone...
    Tina
  • sholroyd
    sholroyd Member Posts: 288
    edited December 2005
    Tina - special thoughts for a good path report.

    I am already dreading Tuesday (yuk).

    Sandra from the UK
  • tornadogirl
    tornadogirl Member Posts: 133
    edited December 2005
    Good news, my terrible Taxol pain did not happen this round. It is day 5 and had just minor pain not even enough to take advil or painkillers.

    Probably there is no pain because onc lowered the dose 25% and gave me Decadron tabs to take the usual pain days ( I only took a half of one day 2-5)

    OK, now I should ask her to raise the dose back up a little for effectiveness should'nt I for the last two trestments?. No pain no gain!
  • lynellb123
    lynellb123 Member Posts: 69
    edited December 2005

    Susan & Norine, so sorry to hear you're having such a rough time. I hope that this week finds you both feeling a little bit better. Tina, prayers for a good pathology report...Thinking of all my sisters & hoping that everyone can find some joy during this holiday season.

  • tinkermax
    tinkermax Member Posts: 269
    edited December 2005
    Hi Everyone
    Sorry I have been absent from the board for so long, the fatigue is catching up with me.

    Sandra
    I will be thinking of you when I have my chemo tomorrow. Are you starting the new regime or are you still on Epirubicin? Good luck with your veins, I hope you have an easy time of it.

    Tina
    Been thinking of you a lot today, I hope your appointment today was not too stressful, and the results were good.

    It seems like we are all finding this harder as time goes by, keep battling ladies, the finish line is in sight.

    Take care everyone

    Maxine
  • sholroyd
    sholroyd Member Posts: 288
    edited December 2005
    Norine – what a nightmare – I mean for you not the patients who saw you treading the boards – best wishes to both you and Susan whilst you are going through rough times. Tina – I have been thinking of you for most of today, although I get a bit mixed up with the time difference and never sure what time of the day/night it is for you.

    Maxine – I move onto CMF tomorrow. I will have one lot tomorrow and one next Tuesday and then a 2 week break (one cycle) – this will happen 4 times, so I suppose I am looking at around 16 weeks before I try the delights of radiotherapy. You are right about finding it harder as the time goes on – Don’t know about you but depression is really setting in right now – time of the year maybe doesn’t help. I am so dreading tomorrow as my arm is painful and I have this ‘fluttery’ feeling in my chest – somehow think I will have trouble tomorrow when I speak to my Onc. Maxine thoughts and best wishes for you tomorrow – what are you on now? (wish it was a double vodka for you) and where are you at??

    Another thing as the time goes on – you become ‘old news’ and the ‘condition’ somehow becomes accepted as the ‘norm’. If I get told I look well one more time I think I will scream.

    Thoughts to you all – speak soon.

    Sandra from the UK
  • monkey9cats
    monkey9cats Member Posts: 47
    edited December 2005
    Hey Everyone!! Been a long time since I've been in here! Had my daughter with me from the beginning of October until a few weeks ago. I miss her already! Well I've finished 4 treatments and start with my 1st Taxotere this coming thursday. I'm really nervous because of all the adverse reactions I have read about. My luck I'll have them all!

    Susan - I didn't read the posts very far back to see what kind of stomach problems you were having. Hope your doing better. I've had a heck of a time with my upper stomach. My doctor said it was probably acid reflux or an ulcer. I think when I ate chili that messed it up. Should have known better!!! No more spicy foods for me!!!!

    My bald heads getting a bit fuzzy LOL. I think after I start the taxotere it will be gone again. I've been going "TOPLESS" and love it! Wore bandanas for a few days but they have me headaches & I hated it. So appeared at work one morning with nothing on! Although in Florida it does get a bit chilly and I wear a knit ski cap when its cool outside.

    Hope everyone is doing well and I'll be coming in again with a bunch of questions I'm sure!!

    Cheryl
  • monkey9cats
    monkey9cats Member Posts: 47
    edited December 2005
    Why am I having such a hard time finding this section in the main forum section? Has something changed? Usually who ever makes a current post shows up on the top but I don't see the September section where I just posted? Been so long maybe something has changed?

    Cheryl
  • monkey9cats
    monkey9cats Member Posts: 47
    edited December 2005
    Never mind LOL I found it! I was looking for "going thru treatment" and I guess it moved. Is this called "chemobrain"????

    Cheryl
  • AussieMum
    AussieMum Member Posts: 124
    edited December 2005
    Hi everyone.
    Quite a while ago I mentioned I was one of many women lobbying the government here in Australia for the inclusion of Herceptin on the PBS (Pharmaceutical Benefits Scheme)for women at all stages of breast cancer who are Her2 positive. This would effectively mean the government would subsidise the cost of the medication.

    Yesterday, my petition was read in Federal Parliament.

    Roche (the company who distribute the drug here in Australia) have just announced that they will provide 3 free doses to women once the drug is registered. This will be backdated to June 05. 3 free doses means 3 X 3 weekly doses - over $10 000 AUD
    This is certainly a start in the up to $70 000 for one year (depending on weight!!!)

    We aren't there yet, but it is a start! I am excited, and will continue my advocacy.
  • txred9876
    txred9876 Member Posts: 392
    edited December 2005
    Pathology report....

    My doctor did not get a chance to call me until 8:30pm..she is a great doctor and took the time to make the call...

    They actually found a second tumor in the left breast that they did not know about....the smallest one left was 1.5 cm. (they origionally thought the one was 2cmx2cm and I could not feel it anymore at the time of surgery) That leads me to believe this 1.5cm was much larger to start with. They did the sentinal node biopsy which came back negative during surgery....but 2 out of 10 positive during pathology. (the right breast was clear!)

    Overall this is not a bad report....I am very optimistic still...I knew it would be a long road when I got started...so nothing has changed now.

    Aussiemum ( i can never remember names...LOL even in "real life")
    That is wonderful news about the herceptin...and you are so wonderful to push the way you have....

    Tina
  • foxxf
    foxxf Member Posts: 171
    edited December 2005
    Tina, great news looks like they got it all. hopes for a speedy recovery

    Aussiemum, You go girl!!
    my little boy is a big huge Thomas the Tank Engine fan and one of Thomas's fav sayings is "Little Engines can do big things" Keep chuggin' away you will get there in the end

    Best wishes to all
    Nicole
  • sherryhaire
    sherryhaire Member Posts: 192
    edited December 2005

    Tina--Did they say if they got clear margins?

  • txred9876
    txred9876 Member Posts: 392
    edited December 2005
    Yes she said they got clean margins.

    Tina
  • susan_02143
    susan_02143 Member Posts: 7,209
    edited December 2005
    Tina,

    Congratulations for getting to this point! Clean margins, smaller tumors, you have fought for this and I admire your determination. Take care and keep posting!

    *susan*
  • susan_02143
    susan_02143 Member Posts: 7,209
    edited December 2005
    AussieMom,

    You are too cool for words! Amazing what one determined [and bald] woman can do. Bravo!

    *susan*
  • tinkermax
    tinkermax Member Posts: 269
    edited December 2005
    Sandra
    Im home and absolutely knackered, goodness knows how you are keeping going without a port...my hat comes off to you.
    Im on FEC x 8, 5 down 3 to go, I will finish in Feb.

    Aussiemum
    Well done you, keep up the good work, you are making a difference.

    Tina
    Great news on your pathology, clean margins and right breast clear. Whats next for you more chemo or rads?

    Thats all for now ladies, im going to lie down

    Take care all

    Maxine
  • sholroyd
    sholroyd Member Posts: 288
    edited December 2005

    Maxine, I survived another round. Had the CMF today – took them 3 attempts to find a vein though which was a bit yuk. Come back Hickman line, all’s forgiven ;-). I feel OK at the moment but will be going to bed shortly (8.00 pm here).

    Apparently it was the Epirubicin that was causing the pain in my arm and the fluttery heart. My husband and my Onc have decided I am depressed and made an appointment for me to talk the Breast Care Nurse (counselling). I tried to resist this and flatly refused any more pills – I will talk to her once and see how it goes. I think the problem is I keep telling everyone I am OK when sometimes I’m not (I have always been the strong one) and I hate the fact that life (work) is going on without me. My hubby has seen me a little tearful – I won’t take him with me next time!

    My Oncologist came in when they were having trouble finding a vein and advised the nurses to always try my left arm first but not to rule out using the lymph node removal arm (right). The nurse went on to tell me that a number of patients are using this arm with no problem and one lady with lymphodema uses that arm and it has not made the condition worse – I am getting more and more ‘specialists’ telling me this.

    Michelle – well done, go girl go! My results are in for her2 + or - (that is the question). Well guess what – My Onc said she has not seen results like mine in 5 years - they have come back on the borderline of + and - (as we know both are treated completely different) - so she has got to go back to the pathologists and try and determine whether it is more + than - so she can determine how to treat me after chemo and radiotherapy. Although Herceptin is not actually funded here yet (nearly though) my Onc led me to believe I would have it if it would be of benefit – watch this space!!

    Well got a hospital appointment at the Warfrin (thrombosis business) on Thursday, another dose of CMF on Tuesday and then 2 weeks OFF – fits in great with Christmas. I then start the next cycle on 3 January.

    Hope I am OK tomorrow?? – hope to see my grandson (4) in his nursery Christmas performance.

    Anyone else got any exciting social activities planned?

    Sandra from the UK
  • AussieMum
    AussieMum Member Posts: 124
    edited December 2005
    Thanks everyone for the congratulations - but I don't really think my lobbying had very much to do with it. As I said, I am just one of many. However, the news is great, and I feel in myself that I have been able to do something positive.



  • AussieMum
    AussieMum Member Posts: 124
    edited December 2005
    Sandra: My onc tells me that depression is normal. It is not a psychological depression as such, but brought on by the chemical imbalance in our brains. The chemicals affect our bodies so badly, they must also affect our brains. Sounds very reasonable to me. So any further medication which helps you get through positive and strong - bonus!

    Sandra, have a great time at the nursery concert. Little ones are just so cute, that you just have to clap and cheer. Enjoy. Thanks for suggesting we share our celebrations:

    SOCIAL ACTIVITIES / END OF YEAR CELEBRATIONS
    * Daughter's (13) school speech night
    * end of year Irish dancing concert
    * church carols by candle light - son (17) playing trumpet in the band
    * staff night out - dinner at a local winery
    * final chemo FEC + neulasta + triptorelin (23rd Dec)
    * comatose Christmas - but Christmas none the less
    * farewell son as he goes to Germany for ONE WHOLE YEAR on an exchange student program.
    * begin radiation

    And each night, I'll stroll the local streets and look at the beautiful, festive light displays on the houses, and be thankful for the joy and beauty of life. Each day is a celebration.

    Michelle
  • Calico
    Calico Member Posts: 1,108
    edited December 2005
    Michelle,

    great news, you rock (even as part of many )

    Tina,
    congrats on the path, Horray for clean margins.

    Maxine,
    hope you feel better

    Everybody, I hope you continue with spirit!!!!

    I went to Taxol # 2 today (2 more to go).
    Had "only" 5 Decadron in the evening, none at night. I was queezy but after the Dec drip and Benadryl I was nausceous. Did not have to puke but close.
    Had the worst!!! ovary pain ever for about an hour. Mean pain. That ovary just got it's death sentence (by removal with a mean scalpel). Seemed like on the right side only and the uterus (unless my feeling for my anatomy is off, could have been everything down there). Amazing. I am almost 2 weeks past due for period so I think this is chemopause for good.

    The nurse said they never had anybody that got sick on Decadron (I think she did not believe me - different nurse every time).
    Well it is obvious, I had no anxiety for the Taxol since I had no reaction to it. I still think it's the Decadron and I want to lower the dose next time even more.

    It's afternoon and I start to feel better.

    God Bless
  • Pegk
    Pegk Member Posts: 389
    edited December 2005
    Hi everybody!
    Keep crossing off those chemo treatments. They'll be finished before you know it!
    I'm done! Today I had my 4th and last tx of Taxol! and I slept through most of it. I brought a movie to watch but as soon as they gave me the Benadryl in the drip, my eyes closed. I woke up to drink some water and have some soup that my husband brought, but 5 1/2 hours just slipped by.

    Some good news: my liver enzymes went way down. I told the doctors that I had skipped the Tylenol for the last cycle. They still insist that I never took enough to make a difference, so maybe it's just a coincidence. I don't regret the tests I had to take to rule out any other problems, but I just want to let the rest of you know that if something like this develops for you-don't panic. It's probably okay.

    Calico, I only get Decadron in the drip. I don't need to take the pills that I needed to take for the A/C tx and I haven't had any steroid problems, so maybe they can reduce your Dec. We're all different. It seems as though the oncs develop their protocals for their average patient, but it's obvious that each individual reacts differently to the chemo drugs and the support drugs.
    Hopefully the outcome for all of us will be the same-conquering these rogue cells and banishing them forever from our bodies and our lives.
    Love Peggy
  • lisag
    lisag Member Posts: 22
    edited December 2005
    Congratulations, Peggy on finishing! What a long journey we have all been and the milestones are so personal. This time of year it's tough to have to go through this, people get busy with holiday stuff and here am I wishing I had the energy to participate-and chemo is depressing. So much to think about-stay away from sick people, conserve energy and ok what's next in this treatment schedule, when will I feel normal again-does anyone else get a bit jealous of what other folks seem to worry about? Think some depression is a normal response, and I get tired of people saying "you seem so positive" when I know what a struggle it is some days, sometimes I get the feeling if I'm not positive I'm failing and upsetting others. I noticed the side effects have been a little more each time and boy am I looking forward to my last one next week. Just starting moving around today after 5 days of vicodin, my vitual hugs to all who are feeling pain tonight. Anyone else on taxol having buzzing, numbness and itching in one's feet? Am wondering when this will go away, so I made an appt with an acupuncturist for after the last tx with my onc's approval. Hoping I'll be able to ski someday again.
    Aussie Mom I am very impressed by your activism while going through treatment-you are an inspiration. Enjoy your events this month! My son went to Germany for a year's exchange in high school and it was a life changing experience, he matured so much.
    Calico, I have the pain in the same spot and I was thinking it might be ovaries too, going to ask I my onc the next time.
    Doing genetic evaluation this week for the bc gene-my grandma, my mom and now me, would do anything to spare my daughters this. Has anyone done the test?
    Decided since this diagnosis ruined my vacation plans last August I wouldn't let it happen again so am making plans to take my kids to Mexico the day after school is out-here's to June and feeling great again...
    Lisa
  • AussieMum
    AussieMum Member Posts: 124
    edited December 2005
    Peggy
    HOORAY!!
    Congratulations on finishing taxol. It seems a difficult stage for so many.
    What for you now? Rest, recuperation and relaxation?
    (or more prods, pokes and 'pothesising)

    I confess I don't know what happens when treatments have finished? Are there tests to be done to say you are OK, or is it a "wait and see" scenario?
  • AussieMum
    AussieMum Member Posts: 124
    edited December 2005
    Calico,
    Are you worried about the ovary removal? I should imagine for some it may be as difficult as breast surgery.

    I am having both ovaries removed in about 6 months. Right now I am having my ovaries suppressed chemically because of the hormones feeding the cancer, but I don't want to have these injections forever, so I've put my hand up for surgery.

    They tell me it is keyhole surgery, through my belly button, and will be quite easy! Sounds good to me!
  • Pegk
    Pegk Member Posts: 389
    edited December 2005
    Tina, congratulations on your good path report. Your long road has taken a very positive turn!

    Cheryl, so great to hear from you! I guess your daughter really kept you busy. That's great!
    Are you getting Taxotere 4X dose dense or 12X weekly? Think positive. You may be one of the ones to sail through!

    Maxine, Rest up ! You're in the home stretch!

    Sandra,Interesting results on Her-2. It seems that if you have any evidence of that protein the herceptin should help.
    I'm sorry †hat you've been feeling bad. You always bring such positive energy to your posts. Maybe you should rant some more. Enjoy your grandson's concert.

    Michelle, Congratulations on your progress with government funding. Every little bit helps.
    You've got a very busy couple of weeks ahead. Enjoy the festivities. Get through the chemo.
    Saying good by to your son for a year! That's got to be bittersweet, but how exciting. Where will he be? Will he be studying anything in particular?
    Good luck with your surgery.

    Lisa, I will be interested to hear how your acupuncture works. Have fun planning you trip. You'll deserve it.

    Be well everybody. Enjoy the holidays!
    Love Peggy

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