Vitamin C

Hi Lita62, and welcome to the board. 

Do you have breast cancer?  It's usually best to stick to credible resources for treatment information and always verify using multiple sources. 

Here are a few credible resources regarding vitamin C with regard to breast cancer, but please feel free to share if you have other credible resources to add!

http://www.mskcc.org/mskcc/html/69413.cfm :

"Bottom Line: Vitamin C is important for maintaining general health but it may reduce the effectiveness of chemotherapy drugs. There is no proof that high doses of vitamin C can treat cancer. "

http://ww5.komen.org/BreastCancer/VitaminC.html 

"Dietary intake of fruits and vegetables high in vitamin C has been associated with a reduced risk of various types of cancer in population studies (particularly cancers of the mouth, esophagus, stomach, colon, or lung). However, it is not clear that a benefit comes specifically from the vitamin C in these foods, and vitamin C supplements have not been found to be associated with this protective effect. Experts have recommended increasing dietary consumption of fruits and vegetables high in vitamin C, such as asparagus, berries, broccoli, cabbage, melon (cantaloupe, honeydew, watermelon), cauliflower, citrus fruits (lemons, oranges), fortified breads/grains/cereal, kale, kiwi, potatoes, spinach, and tomatoes. "

Hi Jane,

Do you have anything helpful to add to the topic of this thread?  Do you have any information regarding credible sources to use for questions about vitamin C in terms of cancer treatment or being "better than chemotherapy?"  

Hopefully you can offer some information rather than just popping in with some random snipe...?

A dairy farmer in New Zealand was at death's door and was saved by vitamin c infusions.  

http://www.3news.co.nz/Living-Proof-Vitamin-C---Miracle-Cure/tabid/371/articleID/171328/Default.aspx

Going back much further, Norman Cousens overcame a serious health condition, anklyosing spondilitis, by using vitamin c.  His book "Anatomy of an Illness" was written clear back in the 60s.  

I find it fascinating that some folks need to cast aspersions on others' helpfulness, while failing to volunteer credible alternatives. Guess I'll go press that "ignore" button again!

Seriously? *MY* post deleted by community??   And nobody even has the class and/or common courtesy to say why they hit the delete button?  Wow.

Hi Lucy88,

Oh brother. Now THAT is fearmongering at its worst.  The "article" you linked to has  absolutely no substance at all.  What are they basing this chicken-little story on, anyway?  It wouldn't  happen to be this letter from the FDA specifically to ONE pharmacy (McGuff Pharmaceuticals) for very specific reasons,would it?  Before you get all worked up into a tizzy, look for information and facts.  Please, be rational and stop and think before contributing to the media frenzy.

http://www.fda.gov/ICECI/EnforcementActions/WarningLetters/ucm238251.htm 

thenewme, who's being irrational here?  It's scary to me that the FDA would target this ONE pharmaceutical company.  They have told this company they must suspend manufacture of not only vitamin C but magnesium chloride and vitamin B complex 100.....These 3 ingredients all make up the "Myers Cocktail" as listed in the article that Lucy88 posted for us.

You all might take a look at Mcguff Pharmaceutical's website to see what "injectables" they manufacture.  One is the vitamin B Complex 100 that they have been ordered to stop producing ...and according to their site, it's the only one manufactured in the US.  If the FDA has stopped their production of this....where does this leave the "Myers Cocktail???

This conspiracy at it's best.

Has anyone actually *read* the FDA warning letter to McGuff?  Impositive, once again, I find your conjectures and non sequiturs just maddeningly obtuse.

If you read the FDA letter, it should be very clear that the FDA is targeting this McGuff company because they are not following applicable rules. Duh.  There are very specific and clearly laid out violations for manufacturers, marketers, distributers or drugs, and apparently this company has failed to comply and/or rectify the situation to become compliant. What is so hard to understand about facing consequences when you break the law?

Just because the FDA has ordered this one company to stop manufacturing certain product, does not make it reasonable to jump to the preposterous conclusion that the FDA is "banning vitamin C." 

If one McDonalds restaurant is shut down for health department violations, does it follow then, that the government is "banning hamburgers???" or "shutting down all McDonald's restaurants?"

I don't know anything about  "Myers cocktail," but if it's manufacturered or/or marketed illegally and unsafely, then why would anyone think it should NOT be banned?  I'd be surprised if this one company was the only manufacturer of vitamin B complex, but even if that were true, I'm sure some other manufacturer would be glad to take over, being mindful of legal regulations.

Banning vitamin C?? Banning oranges?? Oy.  Anyone thinking of writing to their politicians about this issue would be wise to get the facts straight and drop the histrionics in order not to make fools of themselves.  

I love the vocabulary lessons on the boards!  Such interesting words!

In regard to lita6, I would like to know more about her diagnosis before giving advice.  IMHO,  If she is stage 0 or 1, going completely alternative is a choice she can investigate.  However, if she is Stage III or IV, I think she needs to consider traditional treatments even though there is no guarantee.

 I kind of regard vitamin C treatments and the alkaline approach as cancer-cure-of-the-month approaches.  I remember a few years ago feathers were ruffled on the boards about Akai berries curing cancer.  When I looked at the few research reports, one said that akai berries did stop cancer cell growth in vitro, but added the note it had the same affect as applesauce!  No you hear nothing about the akai berries.

HOWEVER, the cancer-cure-of-the-month is important as individuals may actually stumble on something that can then can be evaluated in scientific studies. 

However, on the boards I will respond with comments to theories that are totally bogus (maple syrup and baking soda) and based on false science.I  I will respond with comments on unscientific theories that would be a huge financial rip off  for my breast cancer sisters.

We are all in the boat together.

Impositive,

I agree. The FDA has gone totally rogue and doesn't know what it's doing. Their own website admits that it's a Kangaroo Court and they can't hold onto employees or keep up with the science. The produced an internal review of their weaknesses.

http://www.fda.gov/ohrms/dockets/AC/07/briefing/2007-4329b_02_01_FDA%20Report%20on%20Science%20and%20Technology.pdf

Do you remember when the FDA sued The Life Extension Foundation? Not only did the FDA lose the case (your tax dollars at work) but the judge read the FDA the riot act for their actions as frivolous, arbitrary and vindictive.

I hate paying taxes that underwrites lawsuits like this.

Thats not true.  There are treatments that lead to increased chances of living out your life without a recurrence.  I would call that a cure.

As to the original poster, it was their first and only post, and very vague.  I hope lita62 will come back and let us know she wasn't just trying to stir controversy over this conspiracy theory.

thenewme, 

After all your complaining about conpiracy theories, do you realize you just created a conspiracy theory about poster lita62?

Back to vitamin C- I'm not sure vitamin C can be considered as a "cancer cure of the month".  It's been 30 years ago that Nobel laureate Linus Pauling suggested that vitamin C has the potential to cure cancer and that method has been used before and since then in the fight against cancer.  A team of Johns Hopkins scientists have shown that in mice at least, vitamin C - and potentially other antioxidants - can indeed inhibit the growth of some tumors.  That being said, I believe it is just one tool in alternative modalities.  If you arent following a low sugar diet along with the other approaches, you are not using your entire artillery to win the war.

Vitamin C is good for you, but they have beaten this one to death, It is not going to cure your cancer....I know ..I know... No One here said it would....