I say yes, you say no, OR People are Strange

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  • pip57
    pip57 Member Posts: 12,401
    edited January 2011

    Barbara, as a Canadian it is easy for me to say yes, take the guns away.  However, I do understand the concerns many Americans have with losing this 'right'.  I think they see it as the slippery slope to having other 'rights' taken away.  But, IMHO, I think it is terribly out of control and not at all what the writers of your constitution had in mind.

  • BarbaraA
    BarbaraA Member Posts: 7,378
    edited January 2011

    I don't know, PIP, I think I would rather err on the side of me having a gun than the dude standing beside me in my bedroon having one and me being defenseless. JMHO.

  • Alpal
    Alpal Member Posts: 1,785
    edited January 2011

    Several of my friends (females) legally carry concealed pistols in their cars. They took the classes, etc. that KY requires to have a concealed carry license. These are women my age - in their 60's. Frankly, it makes me very nervous to ride with them. I probably should add that we live in an relatively crime free area, and I have never felt afraid driving around here. Also, I've never heard of a car jacking in this area.

  • BarbaraA
    BarbaraA Member Posts: 7,378
    edited January 2011

    Well, I would carry if I lived in an area that was 'dicey' or had a job where people would be pi$$ed at me (my stepmother works for the US attorney). Don't have to now but would want to be able to if I had to. Criminals can get guns easier than I can. Just sayin'.

  • AnneW
    AnneW Member Posts: 4,050
    edited January 2011

    worldwatcher, I hadn't heard that bit from the San Antonio conference yet.

    I'm thinkng that when I go to Peru this summer, I may have to try the National Delicacy, and then report back, if I live through it. Guinea Pig.

    I HAVE eaten armadillo, though, but would not recommend it. Not at all.

  • revkat
    revkat Member Posts: 763
    edited January 2011

    Barbara, criminals can only get a gun easier than you can if you aren't willing to get one illegally. Or just by stopping by a gun show in the many states where there are no background checks or waiting periods for gun show purchases.

    Anne, GUINEA PIG??? Are they raised to be eaten or do guinea pigs run wild there like our squirrels? (hey, don't southerners eat squirrel?) 

  • BarbaraA
    BarbaraA Member Posts: 7,378
    edited January 2011

    Anne, when I moved to FL, eveyone told me they lived here. The only ones I ever saw were dead on the side of the road so I believe they are myths. They live in Texas and not in FL. Just sayin'.

  • kadeeb
    kadeeb Member Posts: 305
    edited January 2011

    In Alabama you can get a permit for a concealed weapon for $25. They do a background check but I can't believe it's all that in depth because they come back in 2 minutes with your permit.  It takes a week to get a hand gun (waiting period).

    Yes, I'm packing but I live alone in a rual area. About a year ago, a drunk ran off the road about 200 yards from my house and took out about 40 yards of bobwire fence. The sheriff's deputy knocked on my door at 2:30 AM to ask who the cattle belonged to so they could notify them to come fix the fence. I met his happy little A$$ with a nine millimeter in my housecoat pocket. He was either fearless or dumb. I backed him away from the door and asked for ID. It didn't matter to me that there were 5 or 6 cop cars with blue lights flashing in the front yard. He scared the crap out of me and really should have been more careful at 2:30 in the morning. Everyone around here is packing and everyone (except that deputy) knows it. There's very little crime. No one but a meth head would be dumb enough to try anything.

  • Alpal
    Alpal Member Posts: 1,785
    edited January 2011

    Well, my friends did have to attend some sort of gun safety class - I hope they paid attention!

  • Medigal
    Medigal Member Posts: 1,412
    edited January 2011
    revkat:  Guinea pigs??  Yuck!  Who would eat that?  Not on my hungryest days!  As for squirrels, they are rodents!!  Who eats RATS??  I have heard that there are people who eat squirrels but they must either be some hungry or very poor!!!   I won't even go near the squirrels that run wild around our outside area.  They are always looking for food from us.  Imagine if someone grabbed one and stewed it.  This gets very religious in my book.  "Thou shall eat of the pickled pigs feet and tails, rabbits, and chickens but no "squirrels".  I think it must be hidden somewheres in the Bible so whether you are religious or not, keep hands off of "squirrels" unless you want to pet one and then you have to be sure it's not rabid.  If it bites us, I think we turn into vampire squirrels!  Just my highly uneducated opinion.  Any one who believes "me" needs more therapy than "I" do!Smile
  • pupfoster1
    pupfoster1 Member Posts: 1,484
    edited January 2011

    Sharon,

    YUM!!! Baby back ribs, LOVE em!  Is that a picture of your beautiful Labby?  I have a sweet, fat black one myself and foster (hence the pupfoster screen name) for a rescue as well.  AND I'm a Sharon too!

    Sharon in MD

  • pupfoster1
    pupfoster1 Member Posts: 1,484
    edited January 2011

    I've seen them eat guinea pigs on Bizarre Foods I think.  Supposedly it's a delicacy in Peru and the "best" part is supposed to be the head!!!!

    Sharon

  • pip57
    pip57 Member Posts: 12,401
    edited January 2011

    I would be more afraid of a burglar getting the gun from me and using it on me.  I don't know if I could even use one.  What scares me about having guns at hand, is that a lot of people tend to act before they think (unlike the Arizona bystander).  Especially if they are angry and/or intoxicated.

  • kadeeb
    kadeeb Member Posts: 305
    edited January 2011

    No classes required, you can get a permit without even owning a gun although I can't imagine why you would want one. Most people don't carry a gun with them (so they don't need a permit). They just have one at home. I travel a considerable amount due to work so I carry one in the car.

    The classes should be a requirement for the purchase of a gun but in Alabama are not. I think the gun shops assume that the purchaser knows how to shoot but I'm sure it would be helpful to learn the features of the weapon. It might prevent accidents.  My X was cleaning an UNLOADED (ha) gun and shot his microwave. (He was already an X at the time) That microwave will never cook (sprouts or anything else) again.

  • pip57
    pip57 Member Posts: 12,401
    edited January 2011

    I would also consider that living in a gun carrying environment, it would almost be mandatory for a criminal of any credibility to carry a weapon himself.  

  • Alpal
    Alpal Member Posts: 1,785
    edited January 2011

    Years ago our home was burglarized while we were away. Many people said "don't you wish you'd come home while they were there". Uh, no. In fact, for the next several months, everytime I drove up to the house, I honked my horn, so if someone was there they'd leave! And, I won the Riflery medal at summer camp!

  • kadeeb
    kadeeb Member Posts: 305
    edited January 2011

    Criminals are not necessarily of the "high IQ" type around here. Meth users are the biggest element of crime. The really bad thing about that is that meth makes them fearless and dumber than normal. Theft is usually what they're up to but it doesn't mean they will always wait till you're gone. If a meth head has a gun, he's already sold it to get more meth.  

  • floralgal
    floralgal Member Posts: 69
    edited February 2011
  • floralgal
    floralgal Member Posts: 69
    edited February 2011
  • BarbaraA
    BarbaraA Member Posts: 7,378
    edited January 2011

    Morning folks. In Florida, we have a 'stand your ground' law. Basically, what that means is if someone breaks in your house and you shoot him, you are not going to get charged. Recently a shopkeeper was robbed by a gun-wielding guy and he pulled a gun from under the counter and shot him. He was also not charged.

    Regarding carry permits, hmmmm. Thinking that a gun safety class hould be a prerequisite.  

  • Bren-2007
    Bren-2007 Member Posts: 6,241
    edited January 2011

    In California, you can only shoot an intruder if he is inside your house.  Years ago when I got my first handgun in CA, you didn't have to take a class or have a wait period.  I know in Utah when I bought my shotgun, there was no wait period or class needed either.

    In CA you have to take a class now to buy a handgun.  I did attend a class with a friend and it covered the basics.  One thing I do remember from that class was the instructor said, Do not pull your gun on anyone unless you intend to shoot to kill.  That alway stuck with me.

    Bren

  • ananda8
    ananda8 Member Posts: 2,755
    edited January 2011

    Many years ago my husband was going to Vietnam and he took me to a gun safety course.  I was alone in a strange town and he wanted to make sure I was safe.  He had me practice shooting his gun.  He gave me his .45.  I had never fired a gun before and I fired expert with my rounds so close together on the center target that one could cover them with a poker chip. 

    I knew right then that if I shot someone, I would kill him.  After my husband left for Vietnam, I decided I would never shoot that gun to protect property.  A burglar could come into my home and rob me and I would do nothing.  I would only shoot to protect my life.

  • Medigal
    Medigal Member Posts: 1,412
    edited January 2011

    notself:  That sounds so easy to say about not using the gun except to protect your life but if you walked into a room with a stranger robbing you and he wasn't wearing a mask, "he" would probably be forced to kill you if he saw you had a gun.  "He" would be doing it to protect "his" life, imo.  I think we stand a better chance of staying alive if they just took the goods and ran but if we are holding a gun on them, they know we are going to either call the police or end up shooting them if they try to escape.  

    In esscence, unless they want to be caught, they will have to try to attack you even taking a chance on being shot.  Most women, I think, are probably not as good a  shot as you seem to be so they stand a good chance she will miss them or be too scared at the last minute to shot them.  It is a horrible position to be in and I am not against guns but frankly, I think they can put "our" lives at more risk if we run into a desperate person who's desire to escape overcomes his concern about being shot by someone.  You may think you will only shoot to protect your own life or your family but what if you are forced into the type of scenario I have described?  Just my thoughts on the subject.

  • Bren-2007
    Bren-2007 Member Posts: 6,241
    edited January 2011

    Medigal .. I'm a really good shot too.  It's hard to miss with a shotgun though!  I am also quite accurate with my .22 pistol.  For home defense, the shotgun is the best, in my opinion.  All an intruder has to do is hear you cock the rifle .. and they know exactly what's coming.

    Bren

  • Bren-2007
    Bren-2007 Member Posts: 6,241
    edited January 2011

    I just this .. a friend posted it on another board.  I thought it was appropriate for our thread.

    "Of all the forms of inequality, injustice in health care is the most shocking and inhumane." -

    Dr Martin Luther King Jr.

  • floralgal
    floralgal Member Posts: 69
    edited February 2011

    Hi BinVA,

    Pretty quiet on the thread today (I have the day off from work and actually have time to check in--usually just get a chance to check in at night or on weekends).

    Appropiate quote from you posted above.  Will be interesting to see how everything plays out re: health care reform. 

    Just saw an interesting poll:

    "Opposition to Health Care Law Decreases: Poll

    The level of opposition to the U.S. health care law has decreased, according to a phone survey of 1,001 adults conducted Jan. 5-10.

    The Associated Press-GfK poll found that 41 percent of respondents oppose the law, while 40 percent support it. Following November's congressional elections, opposition was 47 percent and support was 38 percent.

    Opposition remains strongest among Republicans, with 71 percent against it, while 35 percent of independents and 19 percent of Democrats are oppose the law.

    Overall, strong opposition to the law is 30 percent, which is close to the lowest level recorded in AP-GfK polls going back to September 2009.

    Only about one in four respondents want the law repealed, 43 percent want it changed so that it does more to rework the health care system, and fewer than one in five want it left as it is, the AP reported.

    Nearly six in 10 respondents are against the law's requirement that people must have health insurance or face penalties.

    A Republican-led vote on repealing the health care law is expected to take place this week in the House."

    http://health.usnews.com/health-news/managing-your-healthcare/articles/2011/01/17/health-highlights-jan-17-2011

    Hope everyone is having a good day.

  • lassie11
    lassie11 Member Posts: 1,500
    edited January 2011

    I have never seen a handgun except for those in a holster on a police officer.

    When someone did break into my house, they took stuff, really nice stuff, but still, just stuff and they did it when they knew no one would be home. I'm glad I didn't have a gun for them to steal.

  • Bren-2007
    Bren-2007 Member Posts: 6,241
    edited January 2011

    Good point Lassie .. I wouldn't want our handguns or shotgun stolen either.  But .. my dogs are the best deterrent to home invasion!  Winston would bite an intruder and the other two would bark nonstop.

    Floral .. will be interesting to see what happens when the repeal gets voted on.

    So far having a pretty good day.  I've been busy with marketing for my transcription business.  Kind've boring, but necessary if I'm going to get more clients.

    Bren

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