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  • Claire82
    Claire82 Member Posts: 684
    edited January 2011

    I had T and C at the same time. I wonder how that compares.

  • MBJ
    MBJ Member Posts: 4,352
    edited January 2011

    HeidiToo:  Thanks for sharing all of this!

    Claire:  I had the same TC x 6 and was wondering the same thing!

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited February 2011
    Well, I was told the A was mostly given if you were node positive, so I'd think TC together would still bode well for us. But, who am I to say?Smile
  • ebann
    ebann Member Posts: 3,026
    edited January 2011

    Babs37: My onc told me not to take Tylenol cause it is hard on the liver. She told me it is best to take Alieve.

    Teka: I am doing Avastin. The side effects are mild thank goodness. I have been tired and do get nosebleeds. My onc told me to use a saline spray for my nose and rub vaseline on the inside to keep it from not getting dry and it has really helped. Everyone is different though as we all are finding out.

    Tifj: Yeah for being negative. What a blessing. To not worry about our children and cancer. Which once you have it you cannot help but worry no matter what.

    MBJ; so far my liver has been coming out good. I will check on the milk thistle. I am doing chia seeds they are amazing. Get for being regular has lots of fiber, proteins, omega 3's, vitamin B's, calcium, copper, zinc high in antioxidants. People who have heart problems should not take these. You can put them in all your foods and cook with them they keep you hydrated. They can replace 1/3 of the fat in your recipes. Amazing stuff. Just thought I would share.

    Have a wonderful day....TNBC Sister 

  • Luah
    Luah Member Posts: 1,541
    edited January 2011

    Thanks for posting that HeidiToo. Those differences are so significant I would think practice guidelines may change. Sadly, like most of the others here, I got AC first, then taxol.

  • Lovelyface
    Lovelyface Member Posts: 674
    edited January 2011

    I had adrimycin/cytoxan first and then taxol.  I wonder why my Med. Onc. did not know of this information, that is to give me taxol first.

  • SunnyCoconut
    SunnyCoconut Member Posts: 350
    edited January 2011

    yup, AC first and then Taxol here.  Hmmm...

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited February 2011

    WRT T before A: Ya know what I think? I think if we wait another five minutes they'll change their minds.

    I'm such a cynic...

  • TifJ
    TifJ Member Posts: 1,568
    edited January 2011

    Mitymuffin- you are absolutely right! While my dr. says we will treat the "variant of unknown significance" as negative- you never know if it will someday become something. When my daughter grows up i will certainly tell her about this test and what it means and will strongly recommend that she starts early detection.

    EB Ann- Thank you!

  • Teka
    Teka Member Posts: 10,052
    edited February 2012

    Hi! ebann,

    I've had no side effects from Avastin, and 4 treatments to go before the end of March.   I was always able to have chemo and radiation treatments on time.   I was in misery with AC+T, and severe radiation burn under breast for 31 days.   I enjoy (PT).

  • Titan
    Titan Member Posts: 2,956
    edited January 2011

    Heidi..you kill me really!  I had ac first then taxol..a whopping 18 months ago..."they" said that they were bringing out the "big guns" first..then the taxol to wipe out anything left...and now it is WRONG!

    Like you said...it's just like watching a pee wee league  baseball game..confusion!  ...I almost can't wait to see the onc in a couple of weeks...I'm going to throw a few studies at him and see what he says...I think it will be a short appt! 

  • lrr4993
    lrr4993 Member Posts: 937
    edited January 2011
    "Why don't they just say "nodes matter.... sometimes.... well, maybe once and awhile...sh*t, it's a crap shoot, we just like doing studies" LMAO.  Yes, this is about right. Completely random thought.  Seriously random - but this reminded me of it.  Was in a museum in athens a few years ago.  There was bust on display with a tag that read "Julius Caesar or a priest."  One of my friends said "They should just say we don't know who the F this is."   
  • Titan
    Titan Member Posts: 2,956
    edited January 2011

    Yes IRR..you've got it.."random" is the key word here..like drinking is ok for tn's but not the positives, biotin is good..but not really, nodes are good, nodes are bad, small tumor good, big tumor bad but they respond to treatment better, stage one is bad because chemo may not work, stage one is good because..it is stage one, stage 3 is good because it responds better to treatments, stage 3 is bad because it is close to stage 4..give me a BREAK..sometimes I could just scream..which is good because I'm letting my agressions out but bad because I'm allowing STRESS into my life, which causes cancer or might not..my head is spinning

  • lrr4993
    lrr4993 Member Posts: 937
    edited January 2011

    Yes, the conflicting information is incredible.  I truly believe that my docs mean well, but don't really have a clue.  Not because of any lack of skill on their part - no one has a clue.  I will never forget my onco telling me, right before I was to start chemo, "If it comes back, it comes back."  Way to show your confidence in this crap.

  • Titan
    Titan Member Posts: 2,956
    edited January 2011

    Gotta love your onc IRR..my Onc just kinda turned his back and said "I think that you will be OK"...Ok..well that is good...I think????   They really don't know..and they are doing their job..but I wouldn't want that job for any amount of $$$....

  • lrr4993
    lrr4993 Member Posts: 937
    edited January 2011

    Don't get me wrong.  She is great.  That was her way of telling me not to worry and stress about it right now.  But what I heard - which is never good for a control freak like me - is this is completely out of your hands and, oh by the way, we have no idea if this treatment is really going to work.  She is extremely easy going and laid back.  I am not.  It has produced an interesting, and at times hysterical, relationship.

    I agree.  I could never do what they do.  It would be too depressing and it would absolutely drive me nuts trying to treat people when I have no real way of knowing if what I am doing will work. 

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited February 2011

    I asked my onc when he would think of me as "cured" He said ten years. F*ck that; I'm sticking with three. Maybe. Maybe not.

    And so it goes...Undecided

  • LRM216
    LRM216 Member Posts: 2,115
    edited January 2011

    It's all a roll of the f'ing dice, no matter what they give us, what our stats are, whether we have nodes or not, etc., and we just go through hell - first with the diagnose, then the treatments, then whatever damn testing we may need (and go through hell and back again waiting for results), and then for the rest of our lives, sit and wait and wonder if the other shoe is going to drop.  I'm ending this now, before I put myself into a major depression.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited February 2011

    For some reason I don't find any of this depressing. Confusing and inconsistant, yes. Beyond that I put it out of my head with an "Oh well" attitude. None of it is carved in stone, and none of it will change my future. I figure I have as good a chance as anyone to survive and the "alternative" is simply not acceptable, so I put it out of my mind.

    Denial? No, I don't think so--- just healthy reality. Works for me.

  • Lovelyface
    Lovelyface Member Posts: 674
    edited January 2011

    HeidiToo - I am also like you, I am a perfectionist by nature, so not having my questions answered is frustrating, very frustrating, but I am not depressed about all of this anymore.  I have a "oh well" attitude too.  Right now, I just want my hair back. I am shiny bald, as my last taxol was 14 days back.  I am just waiting for the damn thing to show a tiny little growth, but it is not showing yet.  And tomorrow I have to deal with the fact that my med. onc. wants to prescribe Aridimex and Zometa to me.  Zometa is for bone loss which is caused by Aridimex.  I am TN, with 2% progesterone positive.  I am wondering if any of you TN's took any hormonal drug and something like Zometa (which seems to be a serious drug given by infusion to people who have bone metastasis).  I don't have any metastasis or node positive at this time........

    Any TN's taking any of these medications, please do tell me about it.  Will this make money for my med. onc.?  He never explains anything to me, nothing, for instance, what would be my risks versus benefits.  I hate having to make these types of decisions.

    I am like a guinea pig.  I never used to take any prescription medication, and now all this?  I hate Side Effects.........I don't know what the hell to do.

  • LRM216
    LRM216 Member Posts: 2,115
    edited January 2011

    Heidi:  I agree with your philosphy and for the last two years have been able to handle it all well, just been a rocky road lately with recurrences - many on the TNBC board and all of us within the same time frames.  The old "first three years" rule seems to be holding true.  I, of course, realize we are all individuals with our own specific outcomes, but it tends to rattle the chains a bit.  I've been in this "dip" before, and it too shall pass. 

    LovelyFace - sorry, unable to give any help re the hormonals, other than I have heard of gals having very low percentages of hormone response, and being put on them as well - to cover all the bases.  I was totally negative on all receptors across the board.  Wishing you the best.  

  • tnbcRuth
    tnbcRuth Member Posts: 454
    edited January 2011

    I shaved my face !!Embarassed   I couldn't remember if a year ago I had that much fuzz, and I read where someone else did it, so.....thank goodness I didn't get razor burn because I realized I didn't hav anything resembling shaving cream, so used a nice lather of soap.  Made one swipe in the same direction (not against) and it was gone!  The best part was my forehead, right above my eyebrows.  They've come back bushy and uncontrollable, so I got rid of the 'overbrow'.  Now I can quit looking in the mirror obsessing if I have too much facial hair!

  • mommafluff61
    mommafluff61 Member Posts: 40
    edited January 2011

    I took prilosec otc yesterday for indigestion and acid reflux...felt great all day. Today, I woke up, took the prilosec and now I have HIVES! I took an antihistimine since it was hours before the docs office opened up. Anybody else get hives from this? I looked it up and it is a common side effect! Who knew!?!?!?

  • MBJ
    MBJ Member Posts: 4,352
    edited January 2011

    Titan:  You kind of just summed it all up for me-thanks!

    HeidiToo:  It is a crap shoot in many ways, isn't it?

    Lovelyface:  You must ask your Onc what those percentages are and what the side effects are so that you can make an informed decision.  No one else can do this for you and if he can't answer your questions then I would consider changing Oncs.  It's your right to know about these very serious treatments we are getting!  Your hair will start growing before you know it!

    TNBCRuth:  I had to shave the "fur" off, too.  Really strange looking before.

  • slcst12
    slcst12 Member Posts: 161
    edited January 2011

    Hi girls!

    Just wanted to drop a note and say YAY for Melissa's shrinkage...

    On Cats:
    We have 1, and he runs the house. He's 12 now, got him at 6 weeks (free to a good home). Big part of our family!

    On closeted boobie feeling:
    Um, yep, me too. Can't see how any of us aren't feeling around in that area 24/7...LOL

    On order of chemo:
    Seriously?  I'm w Heidi, in the "they'll change their mind next week" camp.

    On PhD in TN BC inside 2 weeks
    LOL--OMG me too :)  I never learned anything so quickly or so well. I'm a pro now :)

    For me:
    Port and Chemo same day on Jan 18th.

    DH bought me the 8 pink bracelets from TLC catalog. I'm going to remove one after each chemo session I finish :)

  • moe0279
    moe0279 Member Posts: 200
    edited January 2011

    slcst12, thanks!!!  I love the pink bracelet idea...may have do this too...Im going to take all my hospital bracelets and burn them when i finish....such silly things....but they make us feel better...

  • Sugar77
    Sugar77 Member Posts: 2,138
    edited January 2011

    I had my six-month followup with my oncologist today and it went well.  He had a helper lady doctor who is about to graduate as an oncologist in four months so she gave me the breast exam.  She was so gentle and thorough and all felt fine to her.  Whew!! I'm glad that appt. is over.  I see him again in six months and will get my repeat mammogram in March because they are watching something on my good boob that they saw last Sept. Lol..I told him my recent bout with food poisoning over the holidays made me feel worse than "his" poison did and he thanked me for my backhanded compliment.  He's very nice and I'm happy to have him for my doctor.

  • gillyone
    gillyone Member Posts: 1,727
    edited January 2011

    Great Sugar - it's nice to have a good appointment.

  • MonikaV
    MonikaV Member Posts: 201
    edited January 2011

    Hi Ladies.

    Heidi I agree with your way on thinking. I don't get depressed. I just enjoy life to the fullest everyday. My glass is always full.Smile

  • riley702
    riley702 Member Posts: 1,600
    edited January 2011

    I'm coming up on my one-year anniversary of diagnosis and am finding myself feeling anxious for no particular reason other than that it has been a year. I thought I was feeling better, but find myself checking my scar lines now (no reconstruction). Elizabeth Edward's death made me afraid that I might have a recurrence, too. I'm sure I'll feel better after I'm past this hurdle, but it's difficult for me right now.

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