nutrasweet, splenda or... sugar?

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SarahsMom
SarahsMom Member Posts: 1,779

Hi ladies! If you read my other post, you know that I am making some diet changes this year. I am a early morning only coffee drinker and I like to sweeten it up a little. I don't care for the pink packets but now I am confused about nutrasweet and splenda.  Which is better for us?  Or should I just suck up the calories and use real sugar or raw sugar?  I tried stevia but don't care for the chemical after taste.

 Thanks for any advice or any alternatives you may know of!!! 

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  • dlb823
    dlb823 Member Posts: 9,430
    edited January 2011

    carpdiem, Nutrasweet is aspertame, which I personally do not think is at all good for us, and may actually be quite dangerous:  Here's a very recent article about it:    http://www.mindfully.org/GE/Aspartame-GM-Bacteria.htm

    Have you tried Agave Nectar?  It's a liquid -- a bit like honey, but without the pronounced taste of its own that honey has.  You can find it in many stores these days, from Trader Joes to natural foods markets and most supermarkets.  

    You may also want to check out the Natural Girls thread, in the Alternatves forum.  It's full of chatter about things like this and the other questions you've posted about healthier choices.   Deanna

  • SarahsMom
    SarahsMom Member Posts: 1,779
    edited January 2011

    Great, thank you so much for the link and the info  - I will look at the natural girls thread and will try agave nectar, sounds yummy!  :-)

  • cookiegal
    cookiegal Member Posts: 3,296
    edited January 2011

    When my friend had a severe head injury they told her to never have nutrasweet. I go with sugar or honey.

  • fmakj
    fmakj Member Posts: 1,278
    edited January 2011

    My onc told me to use sugar over any artificial sweeteners.  I did read that Maple Syrup is very good for you but don't know if I would like the flavour in my tea!

  • CatbirdC
    CatbirdC Member Posts: 299
    edited January 2011

    I read where Nutrasweet will kill ants if you don't have ant killer.  Nice huh?    If I ever had to go without my sugar, I'd pick Equal but even it is only a C- on my scale.

    When I saw the thread subject I immediately thought Democrat, Republican or Independent, because I think people are that set in their ways as to what they want.  LOL

    Catbird

  • DiDel
    DiDel Member Posts: 1,329
    edited January 2011

    Carpediem I use Agave. It's a syrup all natural and taste much better than Stevia.

    Usually found in the ilse at grocery store with either Syrups, Honey or Organic items.

    Hope that helps. Im trying to cut out sugar too but its so hard.

    Diane

  • SarahsMom
    SarahsMom Member Posts: 1,779
    edited January 2011

    Thanks, ladies! That is something about nutrasweet killing ants, omg! I think that answered my question!  I will pick up some Agave tomorrow - I just read that is has a much lower glycemic index than regular sugar, so that's a good thing. I wish I could take my coffee black, that would help. Maybe I could start putting less and less in and over time...

    Catbird, that made me laugh. My husband loves the pink stuff but I told him today on the phone he needs to stop using it (he's deployed for a year :-) Thankfully, he gets fruit and veggies where he is, so isn't just eating cheeseburgers and fries! 

    Hope you all have a wonderful year and thanks for the great advice. 

  • CatbirdC
    CatbirdC Member Posts: 299
    edited January 2011

    Just for fun and giggles I put Nutrasweet as an ant killer in the search box and up popped lots of info that it is....one says it was originally developed as ant killer....oh yuk.....I'm not bothering to research this but I figured there had to be truth in it because I'd read it more than once.

    Tell the love of your life to keep clear of it.  LOL

    Catbird

  • kira1234
    kira1234 Member Posts: 3,091
    edited January 2011

    This makes me so angry. About 8 years ago I decided I really needed to lose weight, so I started using Nutrasweet in my cooking, as well as in drinks ect. Well instead of getting healthier I've been putting poison in my body.Yell

  • leaf
    leaf Member Posts: 8,188
    edited January 2011

    Well, I've heard chocolate isn't good for dogs. 

    I'm not saying you gotta choose to eat aspartame, or Splenda.  You can choose to eat what you want!  (Thank goodness.)

    Yes, aspartame is POISONOUS for people who have a RARE disease called phenylketonuria -  these people cannot handle phenylalanine (an amino acid.) These people also have to avoid eggs, milk, cheese, beans, nuts, peas, chicken, beef, fish, chocolate, bread, pasta, rice and cookies.   They can get mental retardation and seizures. http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/phenylketonuria/DS00514/DSECTION=treatments-and-drugs

    http://www.aspartame.net/rumors/Aspartame_and_the_Internet.asp

    http://www.snopes.com/medical/toxins/aspartame.asp

    Some people  don't trust ANYTHING that any governmental or medical authority says.    You may, or may not, be part of this group.  But there are at least 2 sides to every story.

  • LuvRVing
    LuvRVing Member Posts: 4,516
    edited January 2011

    As a diabetic who must avoid sugar, I prefer the taste of Splenda except in Diet Coke. For some reason, the Splenda version doesn't appeal to me.  I tried Truvia in my coffee and found it to have a bitter aftertaste.  Yet, the Trop50 low sugar orange juice drink is made with Truvia and I like it - it seems to have kept the "bite" of real orange juice that most low sugar versions seem to lack.

     I participate in a diabetic discussion board on WebMd and we've had lots of discussions about artificial sweeteners, as you would expect they are used extensively by many of us.  We have a renowned endocrinologist who is our "expert" consultant and his opinion is that artificial sweeteners are safe in moderation.

    I believe it is more than theory that too much circulating insulin feeds cancer cells.  Eating carbs causes a release of insulin and too many can make your cells resistant to the right amount of insulin, thus triggering additional a need for additional insulin, until your pancreas "wears out."  Minimizing sugar, simple carbs, highly processed foods (all the white stuff except cauliflower, really) will help keep insulin levels in check. 

    http://www.physorg.com/news/2010-12-insulin-affect-breast-cancer-survival.html

    http://www.emaxhealth.com/1020/98/32199/breast-cancer-linked-higher-insulin-levels.html

    One way to increase insulin sensitivity and thus reduce circulating insulin is diet and exercise.  Another way is the use of the drug metformin hydrochloride, a common inexpensive drug used to treat Type 2 Diabetes.  There are currently Phase 3 clinical trials underway in Canada using metformin rather than anti-hormones for a five year period.  Metformin is on WalMart's $4 list so a 3 month supply is $10, a whole lot less than Femara or Arimidex (not sure about the cost of Tamoxifen). 

    http://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT01101438?recr=Open&cond="Metformin"&lup_s=07/04/2010&lup_d=30

    I am Type 2 and take 2000 mg of metformin.  I also work very hard to keep my insulin levels low and my cReactive Protein levels in the normal range, both to avoid diabetes complications and to reduce my risk of a BC recurrence.  Metformin has helped me keep both my glucose levels and my weight in the normal range.  I expect to stay on this drug for the rest of my life (I am 60). 

    I hope this is "food for thought" for my sisters.

    Michelle

  • SarahsMom
    SarahsMom Member Posts: 1,779
    edited January 2011

    Thanks, Michelle and all, great info!! I have been weaning myself off of nutrasweet, et al slowly but surely. I am using agave nectar in my coffee, on toast and so forth.  

    Splenda and nutrasweet are in so many products, low fat icecream, lowfat yogurt, et al! It was so frustrating when I started reading labels. For me, calorie control is really important, so I've added calories by avoiding these products and will need to exercise more or cut back elsewhere I guess. Frustrating.

  • Claire_in_Seattle
    Claire_in_Seattle Member Posts: 4,570
    edited January 2011

    I use turbinado sugar in coffee.  Just delish on top of the sweetening.

    Unless you want your coffee ultra sweet, or drink it by the gallon, you aren't adding that much in terms of calories.

    I use honey in tea when I want it sweeter.

    All the artificial sweeteners taste blech to me.  I realize I am in the minority here.

    I would much rather start the day with something utterly delicious than with something just OK.

  • Cynthia1962
    Cynthia1962 Member Posts: 1,424
    edited January 2011

    I use xylitol in my morning coffee because I like that it has a low glycemic index and also prevents cavities and plaque buildup.  I buy it at Vitacost.

    Cynthia

  • carcharm
    carcharm Member Posts: 486
    edited January 2011

    I think Dr. Oz pushes for xilitol and stevia.

  • SarahsMom
    SarahsMom Member Posts: 1,779
    edited January 2011

    I will have to try xylitol for sure, thanks for the great tip!! I don't care for the stevia aftertaste.  I do like the agave nectar, but I don't like having to add those calories into my daily regime - a couple cups of coffee an tea and the agave calories start adding up. I only eat 1200 calories a day in order to maintain my weight, and that ain't much!! I am sure my borderline hypothyroidism is an aggravating factor to my stubborn weight. I am 5'7", 146 and that's where the scale stays no matter what I do. I also work out 5 days a week, burn between 200-300 calories.  Very frustrating!  Jenny Craig used to work, but 1200 is the lowest they will go for daily meals so now I pay all of that money for food and the scale doesn't budge. Thanks to all of you for the great tips!  I am completely off of nutrasweet and splenda now in all foods and drinks.

  • lago
    lago Member Posts: 17,186
    edited January 2011

    I find it hard to remove all sweetener from my diet. I don't drink coffee so that's not an issue but my yogurt has some. I don't drink diet cola much anymore (once in the last 4 months… used to be at least 1-2 cans a day). I just try to watch and keep it down. I do have the occasional cookie or taste for gummy cherries or red licorice but those are not items I even eat weekly. If I cook I tend to not use artificial sweeteners. I rather use less sugar.

  • katzdo
    katzdo Member Posts: 3
    edited January 2011

    You may find this interesting www.splendaexposed.com. I find some of what I'm reading hard to understand. What is "chocholate is bad for dogs " suppose to mean? So are grapes and onion; it's all a matter of what their system can digest properly. There are plants that some birds can eat , but are poisonous to people. We were made to eat natural things. Don't get me wrong, I'm no saint. I eat plenty of stuff I shouldn't, but I try to minimize it. I can't see how anything that is modified or artificial can be good for us. Think of all the GMO products and all the autoimmune dieseases and allergies coming to the forefront. So much of what we eat is modified, why give our systems more to handle on purpose. I've read studies that have recommended not giving diet drinks to children with developing brains because their studies have shown that these can retard brain growth. Sugar is addictive and if you quit cold turkey, you can suffer withdrawl. It's not easy (and yes I had to at one point cut out all sugar, soy, dairy, and gluten at once) Slowly cut back and eventually your system will crave less of it. Another thing to consider is politics that get drugs and other things (like artificial anything) passed. Stevia has been around and in use in European countrie for decades. It was only allowed in the US in health food stores as a supplement until this past year.The Japanese have something called erythritol, which is a sugar alcohol, they've been using for decades and is only now getting US approval. These things are threats to big business. Do your research and decide what is best for you. It is near impossible and cost prohibitive to be a purest, but at least you can make an educated decision on what you are eating.

  • SarahsMom
    SarahsMom Member Posts: 1,779
    edited January 2011

    Hi ladies - I bought Xylitol online from Amazon and had it in 2 days (200 packets for $12)- I love it! I only need 1 packet in my coffee, it has 9 calories and tastes and looks like sugar. No chemicals and no chemicals used to make it - perfect!  Thanks for the tip! 

  • suzanneinphoenix
    suzanneinphoenix Member Posts: 208
    edited January 2011
    thanks for the info, carpediem19. I think I will check it outLaughing
  • HolyRolly
    HolyRolly Member Posts: 6
    edited January 2011

    None of those are good options!!!!  Stevia.

    Nutrasweet is neurotoxic.

    Splenda is sucralose, which is a sugar alcohol.  Xylitol is also a sugar alcohol.  All sugar alcohols cause digestive and inflammatory issues for people, it's just that some are sensitive to them and some aren't.

     Sugar feeds cancer.

    I'm a certified nutrition educator. :)

  • SarahsMom
    SarahsMom Member Posts: 1,779
    edited January 2011

    Holy, is Xylitol better than Splenda - don't they use a chemical to make Splenda and change the molecular make up of it or something?  Thanks for any insight!!

     I've found a way to make my coffee sweeter (been trying to cut back on sweetner use of all kinds) - I use unsweetened soy or almond milk because it is lower calorie than the sweteened - 1/4 cup in a glass measuring cup, add one packet of the xlitol and heat for about 25 seconds.  I stir really well, then add to my coffee, this combo is good for two big cups  Adding warm milk also keeps the coffee warmer longer, which I like :-)  Anyhow, I've gone from eating at least 4-6 packets of nutrasweet or splenda with my morning java to just 1 packet of xylitol, so I am pretty happy about that. I do like the agave nectar in my tea and on my toast, yummy! 

  • Basia
    Basia Member Posts: 790
    edited February 2011

    I bought into the aguave when it first came out, but later learned that it has a higher glycemic index than sugar.  

    If you are just drinking one or 2 cups of coffee a day, I wouldn't sweat it and use the real stuff. 

  • Fearless_One
    Fearless_One Member Posts: 3,300
    edited February 2011

    I like palm (coconut) sugar.   It is not low cal, but has a lower glycemic index.   You couldn't pay me to take Splenda or Aspartame.  We're talking 17 calories a tsp for table sugar....so even if you put a whopping spoonful, we're still talking very few calories.

  • arshdeep11
    arshdeep11 Member Posts: 2
    edited February 2011

    it's time to admit that there is a no free tictet to eating all the sugar free product you desire without peying the high price of harming you body in the long run.

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