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  • beetle25
    beetle25 Member Posts: 40
    edited January 2011

    Titan:  Beetle has been my nickname when I was in high school.  I really do not remember how I got the name but it has something to do with the comic beetle baily.  I am sure I did something during practice or at school and they thought that the name would be funny.

  • tnbcRuth
    tnbcRuth Member Posts: 454
    edited January 2011

    LRM- Thanks for the good info.  I'm setting out the 2 week rule, tho I have aches and pains that definitely would qualify!!  haha   NO one has examined any of my lymph nodes since surgery in June.  I get bp/temp/lungs/heartbeat and asked, how do I feel?  I always said OK, since there wasn't a change from the last time.  I feel lousy ALL the time, lol. (other medical issues)  Decision made~ I'm changing my onc!  I have 3 months to get in with Sloan Kettering this time :) Thanks again LRM!!!

    ps I agree that Diane was the one at the far end of the bell curve. unfortunately. 

  • LRM216
    LRM216 Member Posts: 2,115
    edited January 2011

    TNBC Ruth,

    It's sooooo important that you feel that you are being taken care of.  If it takes switching, I say do it!  This cancer we have is frightening enough, no need to second guess if all is being checked as closely as it should be.  That's all we have !!!

    Best of everything - always,

    Linda

  • Titan
    Titan Member Posts: 2,956
    edited January 2011

    Ha ha Beetle..they used to call my daugther "Free Willie" because of how she used to dive for the ball when she played basketballl..(not very gracefully).

    I just printed off a study about TN's that was authored by Lisa Cary MD from UNC and Eric Winer Mc of Dana-Farber.looking at the pages I printed off the web site is www.Med-IQ-com/a519.  Not sure if you guys can access this or not...I kinda said I was an MD to get in there but whatever..I lie alot..(not really).anyway..I going to take it and give it to my ONC when I see him..just in case he hasn't seen it...

  • jenn3
    jenn3 Member Posts: 3,316
    edited January 2011

    Lovelyface - not sure if this will help....in addition to your path report you can ask your sugeon for his report that was done during/after surgery.  My surgical onc gave it to me with my path report, it's really interesting because you're reading what they did to you step by step during surgery, he reported what he saw, tested and did and how I did while I was under anthesthesia.  Maybe by reading what he observed and what he was thinking during the time of surgery you will feel better about things.  Otherwise, maybe getting a dr that you feel comfortable with and really trust may be something you want to explore.

    tnbcruth - My onc had talked to me after finishing chemo and told me that I would worry about everything and to call him if something lingered for more than 2 weeks.  I thought to myself, I am not that crazy cancer patient.  As it turns out I was the crazy cancer patient.  My eyes hurt.....I knew I had eye cancer, turns out it was dry eyes from chemo.  I swear if I stubbed my toe I though it was cancer........However, I struggle with a lot of aches and pains and do have an auto immune disorder that gives me a lot of pain in my back and hips and because of that I did have a bone scan, which was clear.  It is hard not to worry, but I do find that as time passes I worry less. Hopefully time will help ease your worries.

  • Titan
    Titan Member Posts: 2,956
    edited January 2011

    I just tried it and it worked!   It's actually readable!

  • NavyMom
    NavyMom Member Posts: 1,099
    edited January 2011

    Titan: Itried and it didn't work.  Could you please give the website again.

    Navy

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited February 2011

    Great Open House tonight! (burp)

    Everyone *loved* my hair (just washed it and air dried)  and said I looked great.

    Felt good to be surrounded by so many good and caring friends in my own home.

    Lots of good food still remaining.... uh-oh.

  • moe0279
    moe0279 Member Posts: 200
    edited January 2011

    Got a question?  I seem to be having tons of up and down emotions...one minute i feel good and on top of the world (as much as one can be) and then the next im sappy and crying over something...is this normal with chemo...I mean im an emotional person, but not quite this emotional

    also the tips of my fingers seem to be sore...not tingling, but just sore and i have little black specks in the nails...any suggestions on keeping my fingers nails healthy?  im so worried that im going to loose them...im not sure i can handle that and the hair... 

  • riley702
    riley702 Member Posts: 1,600
    edited January 2011

    I was told to take Vitamin B6 to help with the nails. Also, you can take bags of ice to chemo and keep your fingers cold while the chemo is infusing, which will reduce how much gets into the tissues of your fingers. Good luck!

  • dlcw
    dlcw Member Posts: 107
    edited January 2011

    HI All - having an attack of paranoia and wondering if anyone else had this - I had my first Neulasta last Thursday so today was 1 week.  My neck and shoulder have been super sore and stiff since Saturday...at first I thought maybe it was the aches I read about from Neulasta, but it seems to be lasting a long time....it's on the same side as my tumor and i've pretty much convinced myself that it's spread to my nectk - not sure if there are lymph nodes in there or not but I've been poking and prodding and I don't feel any lumps just sore.  I don't see the onc until Monday and I am sure I'll be a wreck by then....did anyone else have Neulasta aches that felt more muscle than bone and lasted a week or more?   Am I nuts?

    Thanks - dlcw

  • MonikaV
    MonikaV Member Posts: 201
    edited January 2011

    Hi Moe,

     My doctor allowed me to take Biotin while on chemo to help with nails,skin and hair. Ask your Onc. About the emotions.... In the beggining I felt like that. Until one day the psychologist from my cancer support group talked about living on the "now" meaning sometimes we get so sad thinking about the future that we forget to enjoy everyday. I thought"wow"  ! She is right . After that day everytime that I started feeling blue I would turn the music on loud and dance until I was smiling again. Hope that helps. Hang in there. 

  • monisch
    monisch Member Posts: 57
    edited January 2011

    hi janda:  I to live in Europe. I just finished with my chemo treatments. I had 6 in all every 3 weeks.

    The first 3 rounds were FEC and the last 3 taxotere ( DOC).  I had enormous pain with taxotere amoungst alot of other symtoms that almost completely knocked me out.  My last taxotere ( thank god ) was end of Nov. Im still having pain in my feet and in my fingers. My hair is slowly growing back.. getting my natural blond back so i look like i have peach fuzz on my head. My eyebrows have gotten thinner and my eyelashes.. well some are still there but not many. Ive been reading alos all these relay and yes it does seem as if in the usa more chemo is given. My chemo started 7 weeks after my operation. Im having my 6th radiation treatment today.. have 32 more to go.  I have to go 5 days a week for approx. 8 weeks. Thereafter they will send me a minimal time of 3 weeks to a re-hab center. I live in Germany  where are you ?

  • moe0279
    moe0279 Member Posts: 200
    edited January 2011

    thanks ladies, I will ask about biotin and b6...I love the music and dancing idea!  

  • Fighter_34
    Fighter_34 Member Posts: 834
    edited January 2011

    Moe0279 your still newly Dx it will get better.

    From looking at your Dx things look great a small tumor and no node involvement. Partner w/ your Dr. and ask a lot of questions, and jump on the natural ladies chat and do everything you can to keep yourself healthy.

    YOU CAN DO IT~!!!

  • Babs37
    Babs37 Member Posts: 455
    edited January 2011

    Moe0279: I feel the same way you do. Most of the time I feel ok but out of nowhere some days, I have a bit of a panic attack and I have to have a good cry. And now if a listen to a song that "means somethig" to me, I cry. But a good friend of mine said to me that you have to let it out. Don"t keep your feelings about all of this inside you. Talk to someone, a good friend or a family member that will just listen and be there for you. And yes, like MonikaV said, listen to loud upbeat music and dance and sing out loud. Doctor Oz said that listening to "loud" music for 20 min per day is good for us and it helps keep us young! I know I do it more often now when I feel I need to go in a happy place in my mind! And for your nails you could try to put a clear coat strenghtener on them. It helps for me. 

    dlcw: When I was on DDAC, I had to have Neupogen(same as neulesta) shots, 3 days after chemo and that for 7 days every time. And I had aches on all my upper body, from my jaw down for about 4 to 5 days every treatment of Neupogen. I couldn't put my finger on what was hurting inside. Sometimes I knew it was my bones but somtimes I thought it was in my nerves. My skin hurted to the touch. My nurse told me to take Tylenol or Motrin before the aches got to bad. I have now the same aches on Taxol and I don't take Neupogen with it. I get my Taxol on thursdays and every  following saturday, for only that day, I ache from my jaw down. It's like if every node in my neck and upper body reacted to the Taxol. Sometimes it's pretty bad so my doc prescribed Dilaudid for when I should need it because Motrin and Tylenol do not work on that pain(but it work on the Neupogen pain). Go figure.... I suggest you talk to your doctor or nurse about it and see if they could prescribe something to help with the pain if the rest doesn't work.

    Good luck.  

  • moe0279
    moe0279 Member Posts: 200
    edited January 2011

    fighter34, I do have one node involvement that has been there since the beginning..i just haven't change my profile..I'm having chemo first, so im not sure if i will know exactly how many nodes are involved...will they still do a full axillary node dissection..if i have a response..im just not sure how they will tell...

    I see the onco this tuesday for check up, is this when they will let me know if they see any kind of response...I also want them to check my vitamin D...do i ask for this or just wait until they mention it...this will be my 4th taxol treatment...will it be to early to tell if there is a response...i just want some kind of change... 

  • LRM216
    LRM216 Member Posts: 2,115
    edited January 2011

    Between the Neulasta shots (and mine got the worse on day #9!!!! Like clockwork) and the chemo - everything you are feeling is totally normal.  Mine got so bad on the taxotere (and Neulasts for that too) that I had to resort at one point to actual narcotics I was in so much pain - almost totally debilitated at one point.  Nasty, nasty stuff, and I pray to God it just remains a bad memory and I never have to have it again.  Not real sure I could muster up the stamina to go through it again, and I mean that!

  • MBJ
    MBJ Member Posts: 4,352
    edited January 2011

    TNBCRuth:  That was excellent advice:  If it hurst longer then...I have been limping around on my foot and was sure it was "something" and it's just a tendon causing me problems.  I ache everywhere and feel like what I imagine a 90 year old woman feels like!  I do alot of stretching.  I have been getting PT for the MX side, I email my Onc with any suspicions, and they are never anything!  I am sooooo glad you are going to Sloan Kettering and you are changing Oncs!  So important to have great doctors we can trust!!!

  • MBJ
    MBJ Member Posts: 4,352
    edited January 2011

    Moe:  Aches and pains, a severe case of the blues, all of it goes hand in hand with chemo and BC.  It will get better! Hugs!

  • MBJ
    MBJ Member Posts: 4,352
    edited January 2011

    HeidiToo:  Sounds like lots of fun and now you have made me hungryTongue out

    Speaking of food, for those of you wanting to lose the holiday pounds, this is what I did for my 30:

    http://www.perriconemd.com/category/start+fresh!.do?utm_content=Start+Fresh+20100106&utm_campaign=January+2011&utm_source=iPost&utm_medium=email&imm_mid=068912&s_cid=January+2011&s_med=email&origin=iPost&sc_cid=Start+Fresh+20100106

  • mitymuffin
    mitymuffin Member Posts: 337
    edited January 2011

    Ladies, Have any of you experienced significant fatique after finishing radiation? I'm soooooo tired. I finished radiation on Dec. 30th (the last 6 were boosts) and I think each day since I've been more tired. Any thoughts?

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited February 2011

    Seroma Formation After Breast Cancer Surgery Triples Risk of Lymphedema

    Elsevier Global Medical News. 2011 Jan 6, B Jancin

    SAN ANTONIO (EGMN) - Women who form a seroma following breast cancer surgery are at threefold increased risk of developing lymphedema, a case-control study has shown. Of 135 breast cancer survivors (26%) participating in the study, 35 developed postsurgical symptomatic seromas requiring needle aspiration. The seromas were located in the axilla, upper chest, and breast. Of the 35 women with a seroma, 33 had a greater than 200-mL increase in arm volume. Based on the International Criteria for Lymphedema Diagnosis, 26 of the 35 women with a seroma had severe lymphedema, 6 had moderate lymphedema, and 3 had mild lymphedema symptoms, Mei R. Fu, Ph.D., reported at the annual San Antonio Breast Cancer Symposium. Patients with a higher body mass index were significantly more likely to form a seroma; however, age, type of surgery performed, axillary lymph node status, and number of nodes removed proved unrelated to the occurrence of a seroma, according to Dr. Fu of the New York University College of Nursing. Lymphedema is caused by accumulation of lymphatic fluid in interstitial spaces due to injury to the lymphatic system as a consequence of breast cancer therapy. Patients dread this common, distressing, long-term, and indeed often lifelong complication, she said. Lymphedema is a syndrome with multiple symptoms. In this study, seroma formation - that is, excessive build-up of serous fluid - was associated with a markedly increased likelihood of the lymphedema-related symptoms of arm swelling, heaviness, numbness, stiffness, firmness, tenderness, and redness, as well as increased arm temperature. Patients with a seroma had a greater number of lymphedema-related symptoms than did women who developed lymphedema without a seroma. A seroma is believed to form in response to surgical trauma and leakage of inflammatory exudates in the acute phase of wound healing. The excessive build-up of serous fluid leads to delayed wound healing, with tissue inflammation followed by fibrosis and necrosis. Current standard management of a symptomatic seroma consists of needle aspiration, which may need to be done repeatedly. The clinical implication of this study is that aspiration of serous fluid isn't sufficient to prevent lymphedema, Dr. Fu said. Further research is warranted on a novel means of preventing symptomatic seroma formation as a means of avoiding the development of lymphedema. Possibilities include the use of ultrasound for early detection and drainage of subclinical seromas, as well as potent anti-inflammatory therapy. Her study was funded by the Avon Foundation and grants from other nonprofit organizations. She said she had no relevant financial disclosures. HeidiToo (who spent the entire day sleeping/reading on the porch by the fire)
  • Lovelyface
    Lovelyface Member Posts: 674
    edited January 2011

    LRM216 - As you might know I am East Indian so when I first got diagnosed in July 2010, I kind of heard around my family and friends, who else amongst the Indians had breast cancer.  My daughter in law to be, told me of this lady who was her nanny who had been diagnosed in Dec. 2008 of TN breast cancer.  She had a recurrence in Dec. 09, exacly one year later, and just this past Aug. - Oct, my daughter in law and her mother were telling me how well she was doing, her hair was coming back, she looked like an actress.  She was juicing everyday and was doing very well.  Around 12/15/10, she had a third recurrence and now she is dying, doctor gave her one more month time.  Her daughter who is a medical student flew from the Carribeans and admitted her mom in a PARP Inhibitor trial going on in Sacramento, through Kaiser.  A UCSF doctor helped her.  We are all praying and hoping that some miracle might happen and she will make it.  But this case totally reminds me of Angelsabove, this has been so quick and fast.  From looking fabulous and being extremely active to the quick downturn and to death.

    If only doctors could tell us whether ours is basal-type or basal-like or whatever.  I did ask my Medical Onc. and he did not know which type I had.  However, the Pathologist describes my tumor as having a dumb-bell shape.  Wonder what that means. I tried to look it up, but did not find anything.  As you know I have insisted on a second opinion so this week, the UCSF (my second opinion place) is testing a few more blocks of my tumor.  I still don't think they will tell me about the cell type.  I think that should be a must. I just can't believe, now that I have cancer, how things are at present, almost inhumane for cancer patients.  Everything should be so thorough, there should be so much more attention, since this is a killer disease.

    What bothers me the most is that whatever tests have been given to me, I have to ask for it.  I asked that my Vit. D levels be checked, I showed them that the radiologist had recommended on the MRI that there be another MRI in 6 months.  This is scary to me that I have to ask - I, being a layman.

  • kelben
    kelben Member Posts: 269
    edited January 2011

    excellent article on seroma.  I have one and will be having it drained next week.   It is no big deal and I'm not scared.   The only issue is..... will it screw up my DIEP surgery later on this year..   crap

  • MBJ
    MBJ Member Posts: 4,352
    edited January 2011

    Lovelyface:  Are you saying that this woman who is dying had basall type cancer cells?  I believe mine is that and I thought all TN's were that.  Mine was barbell shaped also.  I hear the distress in your voice and I am sorry to hear that you are upset.  Wasn't Angelsabove also BRCA which is a more aggressive cancer and has a tendency to come back?  Is it possible that this is what this woman has?   I don't think that is it matters what nationality we are.  Just because this woman is also Eastern Indian doesn't mean you will have a recurrence or the same outcome.  You may never have to deal with it or it may come back.  We have a 60% chance of surviving.  I like to hold on to that fact rather then succumb to my fears that I could be in the 40% chance group.  Hugs.

  • MBJ
    MBJ Member Posts: 4,352
    edited January 2011

    Thanks HeidiToo!

    Kelben:  So sorry to hear this.  After reading what Heidi posted maybe getting immediate PT would be helpful to avoid further complications of lymphedema or postponement of your surgery. Hugs.

  • mitymuffin
    mitymuffin Member Posts: 337
    edited January 2011
    MBJ, my docs at Sloan Kettering, and my local onc, both gave 80% chance of surviving. Who knows...but I like their statistics better than yours Wink .(no offense meant.)
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited February 2011
    mitymuffin- MSK, as I recall and my local med onc gave me 87% (with chemo/rads), so I'm with you--- I like those stats better!
  • jenn3
    jenn3 Member Posts: 3,316
    edited January 2011

    Moe - I had weekly Taxol and struggled with neuropathy.  I thought neuropathy meant numbness, but was told my my dr that the pain in my toes and fingers was from the neuropathy.  There isn't much you can do if that is what you're starting to deal with.  However, make sure to talk to your onc about your symptoms so that he can keep an eye on you and give you medication for the pain if necessary. I also had terrible pain from the Taxol and had reached the point that I couldn't even stand to be touched.   I didn't have black spots on my nails, but did have white patches and ridges.  I took extra care of my nails and kept them short.  The emotional ups and downs are like the others said, they come with the territory - the steroids give us highs and lows along with the emotions we have to deal with from the dx and treatment.  It'll get better.

    Mitty - Yes, I was very tired.  I fought it, but I was tired.  I would come home from work, fix dinner and go to bed. 

    GO SAINTS!!!

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