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  • Lawleigh
    Lawleigh Member Posts: 56
    edited January 2011

    Hello December gals,

    I can so relate with all of you that are feeling almost physically ill at the thought of the next tx.  My third is on Thursday and I just get to feeling like I might be some use to society and my family again and back we go.  The good news is that this part of the journey will be more than 1/2 over soon. I am considering the DD AC its own journey as the thought of 12 weeks in a row of Taxol is almost more then I can mentally deal with right now.

    On the topic of Emend...I got my cancer care center to provide it for me day of and send me home with the next two days and bill it as major medical so that they did not have to prescribe because the first time when they did prescribe  it was 300,00.  Just based on principle alone I wasn't doing that again.  Now...something to check out.  We did some major research and the generic "should" be available possibly as soon as this month.  The Patent on this drug expired the end of the year.  They can get delayed sometimes but check it out.  It will drop the cost down to somewhere around 40-60 bucks as oppossed to 300.00 for me.

    Shaved my head short today and will let it fall out naturally from here to hopefully avoid the razor burn stuff.  I have been using baby shampoo also and am having no problems except that now I need to take my wigs back to the wig gal and have them retrimmed as they fit differently and all of them are way too long in the bangs. I also think I need a couple or lessons to make things easier.

    Have a great Monday and I am thinking of all of you that are in treatment this week as I know how depressing it is to take that step backwards...but remember it is that much closer to completion.

    Leigh

  • sammolisa
    sammolisa Member Posts: 180
    edited January 2011

    Cking up on everyone -  hope all are doing well.  I have a head cold on top of the chemo side effects.   :(  but hangin in there - no fever as of yet,  so I am good.  Just miserable.   Day 5 of 3rd AC.   Neulasta wasn't bad at all this time.  Hardly took any pain meds.  Doc told me they would get easier.  And he was right!  One more AC and i am done.  yay!  (with AC at least)  I like earlier when someone said she likes to look at the AC and the Taxol as two seperate things because it's just way to much to think about as a whole.  

    Hugs to all,

    Lisa

  • Rachel2
    Rachel2 Member Posts: 32
    edited January 2011

    I haven't posted anything lately, but religiously read all the posts on here. I have my third AC this Tuesday and am not looking forward to it.  I had alot of nausea this last round on days 3-6 and then caught a virus/flu and am still coughing.  My husband took me into emergency on Thursday morning @ 5:030 am as my cough was so bad.  No fever, but didn't sound good and it was hard to breath.  I was treated royally in emergency and they checked my heart, my lungs, took blood tests, and everything was clear and my blood counts were normal.  I was just very sick.  The oncologist I saw the next day for a pre-chemo appointment put me on antiobitics and prescribed Emend for the nausea. I finally feel semi okay for the first time since my last chemo.  But after this next one I will almost be finished DD AC and then onto 4 DD taxol.  I hope everyone had an okay New Year.

  • nolaa
    nolaa Member Posts: 76
    edited January 2011

    Rachel2 - I'm doing my third dose of AC tomorrow as well.

    Anyone else feel like the days before the next tx is like preparing for a hurricane?  I make sure the laundry is done, bills are paid, grocery shipping is done,... all in preparation for the days when I'll be too sick to move or do anything.  

    We're half done with AC!  Almost there.  

    Taxol is definitely it's own beast.  Mentally preparing for that separately.  The SE are better for most people but since I had SUCH bad SE with AC I'm worried I'll be one of those people who suffers through 12 weeks.  As hard as AC is and as miserable as the first week is, I am infinitely thankful for the second week where I feel good.  In fact I feel fabulous the second week.  It helps me bring my spirits up so that I'm ready to fight another miserable week.  What if we don't get that break with Taxol?  What if it is just 12 weeks of misery?   That worries me.  Trying to think positive though...

  • Maureen813
    Maureen813 Member Posts: 2,893
    edited January 2011

    On tx 3 of 12 on Taxol.  For me, definitely easier than the A/C.  Get infused on Mnday. Thurs. seems to be lousy day last 2 tx.  Just really tired and achy.   A/C is like a really bad flu and Taxol feels like a cold, if that analogy makes any sense?  Just a note on the whey protein, read label for soy, i avoid like the plague. I still do the baking soda rinses cause I don't want to find out I need to do them!!! 

  • karebear76
    karebear76 Member Posts: 288
    edited January 2011

    I had a check up today and because of some new headaches they did a CT scan of my head. That came back normal and my WBC count was up!!! So I should be all set for chemo on Thurs. 

    I agree with Nolaa! I am cleaning all that I can and trying to get the house organized all before Thurs so when I get treatment and feel miserable at least things are done! Almost like nesting!! LOL 

  • lindaa
    lindaa Member Posts: 119
    edited January 2011

    I'll have my 3rd DD A/C tomorrow.  I finally got my buzz cut on the afternoon of New Years Eve.  Out with the old - literally!  Funny how some on here were told 14 days to lose hair, and my onc said by New Year's Day and she was right( 24 days)!  Is it because I am brown hair/eyes so it lasts longer?

      I had a slow recovery from round 2 mostly because of having my port removed, picc line placed in arm, and being on vanco antibiotics this whole time (I'm still on it, 2x day).  I made it through Christmas then slept for 3 days.  My body aches after shot seem to be right around day 4 and 5, all around my shoulders and neck.  I take the claritin (not D) for 4 or 5 days - I think it helps.  I got a nice neck warmer for Christmas that you put in the microwave - really helps the aches. 

    I see 3 of now have been hospitalized.  Lets keep it there and not add any more! 

    Tired, no appetite, and everything smells bad is worst SE.  I have taken anit-nasua meds as needed and they do help.  Even water smells bad to me so it is now a struggle to get in the water we are supposed to have,  I have tried Crystal light but even the smell of those gets to me.  Craving carbs comes from the steroids.  so does being very weepy for a couple of days after the steriod dose.   A good note is I have finally dropped coffee in the morning (makes me gag now) and have switched to tea.  Something I have been wanted to do for a couple of years now and now it is done.  Go figure!  I wish for all a happy, healthy, and much better 2011 than 2010 was.  God bless all.

  • Ling29
    Ling29 Member Posts: 56
    edited January 2011

    Hi Lindaa

    I started to lose my hair after 14 days actually, and I was also on DD A/C. I have dark hair/eyes, not sure whether that's the reason I lost my hair earlier than you.  

    Good luck with your chemo tomorrow, I hope you will feel better with round 3.

    Ling 

  • Lawleigh
    Lawleigh Member Posts: 56
    edited January 2011

    Hi to all....

    That is so funny that everyone feels that push to be "ready".  I have been telling people that it is like cramming 2 weeks of to do's into 4 days.  I just finished paying bills and have my mental list of things for tomorrow night.  Spent yesterday cooking as my mother in law is having knee surgery on the 18th and her other half does not cook.  Trying to have a freezer full of meals prepared to help out.

    Good luck to everyone this week sounds like a whole bunch of us are over half through this part of the journey.  Trying to visualize Taxol as a minor inconvenience.

    Leigh

  • hdangelbaby
    hdangelbaby Member Posts: 731
    edited January 2011

    I am running round like a chicken with my head cut off! bills, laundry, cooking a good dinner tonight cause the rest of the week is gonna SUCK! taking the tree down. i do this everytime as well, trying to get it all clean and ready so I can rest. hubby works two jobs, so i could ask him to do stuff, but i try not to ask alot, he already works 60 hours a week...

    good luck to all, and wish me luck too! cycle 3 of DD AC at 11 am tomorrow!

    will be on my steroid high till about 4 pm, then it all goes downhill from there! Yell

    (((HUGS))) TO ALL!!

  • hdangelbaby
    hdangelbaby Member Posts: 731
    edited January 2011

    UGH!  I ate a chili cheeseburger and deep fried pickles today........ long time since i ate a hamburger..... it is sticking around if you know what i mean!!!!

  • nolaa
    nolaa Member Posts: 76
    edited January 2011

    Maureen813 - thanks, glad to know the side effects from Taxol are more mild.  I like the flu/cold analogy.  

    Rachel2 - if you have a super bad cough try getting something called Chestal.  Its a homeopathic "cough syrup" but I know they sell it here in places like CVS and Walgreens.  I'm sure you can find it online too.  Has worked miracles for everyone in my family who suffers from colds, chest congestion, etc.  And it won't interact or mess with any of the chemo, prescription meds, or OTC meds you're on.

  • joystars
    joystars Member Posts: 95
    edited January 2011
    nolaa, rachel2, lindaa and hdangelbaby, sending you positive vibes today!  Hopefully all goes smooth and with not so many SE. You girls can do it!

    Last nite I had a meltdown after trying to hold my hair back in a pony tail, a good bunch of hair fell out :(  It's starting now, on day 13 post chemo.. buaaah! So NOT ready! I wonder if any of us was actually ready for it anyways. Lindaa and ling, I also have dark hair/eyes and seems to be the rule of day 14 post chemo.  Question, I dunno if it's just me or my imagination but I do feel my head a bit sore, could it be related tol the hair falling out?

    Also, baby is sick :/ she has a bit of croup which might be normal for other babies at this time of the year. But since but she is a prem baby, we have to go to doctor's today to check how to clear her throat. It's snowing out there and lucky us is not that cold, only -4°C. This is gonna be her first time out since he arrived home 3 weeks ago! I know I know, might sound kinda crazy that we barricade ourselves home all this time, but tempreatures lately have not help much: an average of -15°C and here the rule is "no babies out if it's lower than -9°C".

    Hope the rest of the group is doing fine...



  • spartina
    spartina Member Posts: 68
    edited January 2011

    I got my 3rd DD EC yesterday afternoon.  I was happy that my WBC was 21.  I went will a good friend who lives in the Berkshires of MA and I think what made this time less stressful was that we were laughing our heads off most of the time.  My friend kept telling me how good I looked and I felt myself feeling good and standing taller.  

    They give me Ativan in the iv so I was a bit loopy afterwards, also congested and the steriods keep me up until about 6 pm.  I was able to eat a nice dinner of chicken, vegies and brown rice. Trying to drink liquids like it's a religion. Dropped like a rock into bed at 8:00pm.

    Slept well but about 6:30 my body woke me up with nausea to remind me to take the Emmend. Within 5 minutes the nausea was gone.  Wouldn't it be great to have an Emmend for all our life's problems!

    Thinking of you all and hoping your day is uplifting and not dragged down by these side effect.

    Best-Maria 

  • hdangelbaby
    hdangelbaby Member Posts: 731
    edited January 2011

    Good luck to all of the gals having treatment today!! I could not sleep last night for anything. got about 3 hours of sleep. im sure the ativan in the IV today will help with that!

  • jtbsmom
    jtbsmom Member Posts: 19
    edited January 2011

    had my second round of TAC yesterday.  All went well. had the Neulasta shot today and Dr said okay to take the Claritin.  I did not have any problems with the last shot but will experiment!

    hope everyone is doing good and continues to kick some cancer butt!! 

  • Rachel2
    Rachel2 Member Posts: 32
    edited January 2011

    Nolaa, thanks for the advice on the cough syrup.  I live in Canada, but I will try and track some down.

    Had my 3rd treatment DD AC today and so far just feel a little drugged.  Hope it went okay for you, Nola, hdangelbaby and Linda.

    Joystars, I hope your baby is doing better and you too.

  • spartina
    spartina Member Posts: 68
    edited January 2011

    Hdangelbaby: never heard of deep fried pickles? Is that a specifically Idaho treat?

  • karebear76
    karebear76 Member Posts: 288
    edited January 2011

    Tomorrow is day 14 post chemo so I guess I should be ready for the hair to start falling out. I have dk hair and eyes too. I have noticed other areas where the hair has started to fall out. Noticed that this morning in the shower. My head has been incredibly itchy the past few days. I hope that settles down once the hair is gone.

  • bambi380
    bambi380 Member Posts: 44
    edited January 2011

    jtbs good to see you got through it again. Smile  Let me know how the C works.

    I filed the retirement papers today and as of January 13 my teaching career ends. I am a bit down about it. Frown  However, this too will pass...............................

     A few more good days left for me until TAC #2.

     Hang in there gals!

  • dlcw
    dlcw Member Posts: 107
    edited January 2011

    Hi All - just checking in after taking a break for a few days.  Had the last dose of my first cycle last Thursday and got my first Neulasta treatment along with it.  I was a bit anxious about that but it hasn't been too bad - achy neck and shoulders yesterday and today and I've been obsessing a bit about whether there are swollen lymph nodes that could be cancer spread, but after reading other posts I think maybe it's still the Neulasta - this is Day 5 after the shot. 

    I am also in 'to do' mode, getting all the laundry caught up and thank you notes written before next week when I expect to be much less productive.  Also hoping to get to the wig shop soon....the combo I'm taking doesn't cause total hair loss, but significant thinning which is what I'm experiencing.  I hope to try and work on the weeks that I am not getting drugs and I think I want something to wear there - hoping I can find something that doesn't look too fake - maybe that's not realistic if I don't want to spend a ton of money - will have to see.

    Hope everyone is doing well with minimal SE's!

    dlcw

  • hopefortomorrow
    hopefortomorrow Member Posts: 193
    edited January 2011

    Hi everyone, I have been hibernating quite a bit this week! Tomorrow is day 7 after my third AC treatment. It has been rougher this time. I feel weaker and it seems like the side effects are creeping up with each treatment. I had a bit of a meltdown today after my husband said he would make dinner when he came home. I just felt like he was implying that I should have. He said that was not the case. I just want to feel normal again! I suppose I am a little freaked out about the thought of Taxol for 12 weeks. I know everyone says it is milder and I hope that is the case. I am a very strong person, and I hide alot of my frustrations, but I just felt the need to air it out here. :-(  I really did feel great before my last treatment, so maybe tomorrow I will turn the corner. I need a few good days in a row! My husband will be away and I will have to get my son to his wrestling meets.

  • hopefortomorrow
    hopefortomorrow Member Posts: 193
    edited January 2011

    Joystars-

    My head definitely was itchy before it started falling out, and then it started hurting...like it was sunburned. That was when the majority came out. I cut mine short, but couldn't stand how much was coming out in my hands and getting into everything so I  had my husband buzz it off. I have stubble now.

    I go from scarves to soft knit hats to my wig...depending on where I am and how I feel.

    I had to take my son to the emergency room about 5 days ago (his airways closed up while running at practice) and I had a scarf on and my husbands bomber jacket on. He said "You look like a motorcycle mama!" I did laugh at that! He is thirteen, so I hear whatever his thoughts are-he hasn't learned yet (but is getting the idea) not to keep some of his observations to himself!

  • ebann
    ebann Member Posts: 3,026
    edited January 2011

    Well today I go in for chemo and we will see if my wbc is high enough to do it this time. So 36 treatments and 34 to go ugh! So frustrating to do this all again.

    Hopefortomorrow: Sorry to hear about your son that must of been scary. Kind of funny what he said. I do remember that age. So glad I am over the teens years. I understand the meltdowns we all have them and you are intitled to have them. Do your best not to feel quilty cause of the help people want to give especially your husband. I know it is difficult cause at first I was that way. It made my husband feel useful. I felt bad cause he worked long days and came home to care for me. It gave him a sense of something he could control since he was not able to control cancer. I know that is a odd way of putting but that is how he explained it to me. So humble yourself in this moment you are  going through. You'll make it through your treatments. I did Taxol too.....It was milder but I was still sick which sucked. I will keep you in m y prayers. Take care keep me updated.

  • lindaa
    lindaa Member Posts: 119
    edited January 2011

    I hope everyone is doing well. Treatment went well yesterday - it's a full day in boston - didn't get home until after 6.  I watched Clash of the Titans w/ parents afterward (they live next door) then I went to bed.  I'm on a new IV fluid drip today because DH complained I wasn't drinking enough water.  Doc says 1 liter day after is most important.  She said those who live local go in for their shot and to get hydrated the day after.  So since I have this picc line might as well make use of it. 

    Hope: watch the meltdowns - besides all of the emotions we go through, the steriods do funny things to you.  When I was on taxol my steriods were double what they are  now and I went through a 'roid rage' period.  Very cranky and snippy.  Now I have my weepy days which seems to hit a couple of days when I'm done with the dose.  They also make me crave carbs and comfort foods (when I can get anything past my nose)

    Sun - I am shocked a judge allowed you ex to do this to you in the midst of a critical illness.  I don't know the legals but you should have been allowed to stay on his medical until something else came up for you.  Can you talk to a lawyer or patient advocate?  In the meantime, breathe deep and try to meditate - it really helps during these stressful times.

  • hdangelbaby
    hdangelbaby Member Posts: 731
    edited January 2011

    spartina, actually i think it is a southern thing, but i will surely take it here in Idaho!!!

    had my 3rd DD AC yesterday. had crazy nausea hit about 8:30 pm when i woke up from my ativan haze. took kytril with another ativan under my tongue. 15 minutes later, gone! ate some dried toast and applesauce and back to bed i went. slept till 11 am. lord knows i must of needed it!!

    hope all is doing well managing their SE's. to me, my nausea seems to get more intense after each treatment, but, i am getting the same amount of chemo each time. weird. this stuff makes you not expect the same results everytime!

  • msjag
    msjag Member Posts: 416
    edited January 2011

    hdangel, A few of you have mentioned taking ativan under the tongue, is this to help with nausea instantly? I have been given ativan to try to help with sleeping, doesn't work through the night, wondering if I should be taking it by putting it under my tongue instead of swallowing it with water.  

    Linda, where in boston do you go?  my onc is affilitated with Dana Farber, is there once a week, and then more locally to me (only 20 minutes away thank goodness) the rest of the week,  so I feel lucky to have a Dana farber oncologist working also at my local cancer center. 

    Today, I'm so ready for this to be over.  Two more people I know diagnosed with breast cancer, luckily neither of them need chemo, lumpectomy and rads.  And although I am so greatful for them, I am envious, I have to admit it. but I really am happy they don't need the chemo.

    Is it summer yet?

    JoAnn

  • hdangelbaby
    hdangelbaby Member Posts: 731
    edited January 2011

    msjag, yes the ativan under the toungue works almost immediately. i usually only have to do this the night of chemo, as I am under 30 and considered very high risk for nausea immediately after even with the premeds. but i'm sure it works for about anyone. i was nauseous enough to think about making myself puke at around 8:30, after the kytril and ativan i was eating about an hour later so i was pretty happy with that. then i passed out around 11 and slept till 11 today!

    neulasta is today--tomorrow is yuck day with the aches and pains.

    such is life, and i agree, is it summer yet??????????? lol!

  • msjag
    msjag Member Posts: 416
    edited January 2011

    hdangel, do you take the claritin like many here? I don't get neulesta, I just got monitored for one month, and onc doesn't give it to me, just tests my blood on the day of chemo now.  I have to tell her if I get sick/feel like I'm getting thrush or any other infections..so far so good.  I am so jealous about you sleeping...I never get more than 6 hrs a night, no naps during the day, and usually I wake up evey four hours even after taking 2 ativan!!  I need to ask for the heavy duty stuff to sleep!!  glad you got rest and nausua was gone!! hope the next few days go well.

  • lindaa
    lindaa Member Posts: 119
    edited January 2011

    On the sleeping, try to take steriod during am/early afternoon hours.  I forgot today and just took it around 5 so we will see how I do tonight.  Plus I have basically slept all day.  I did take my claritin and nurse should be by soon to give me shot.  Nice to have good neighbors.  My insurance has a 5K catastrophic deductible per year, then after that we don't have to pay for anything.  We picked up 2 neulesta shots yesterday so starting Jan 2011 the copay for 2 shots was $1,800.00!!!!!  At that rate we will meet our deductible in no time.  No wonder some people can't afford health care. We were shocked!  Last year we had already met deductible before shots came into picture so we didn't pay anything.

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