Need help - pain when wearing protheses
I had a mastectomy on my left breast in Oct 2010. A week later, I had an axillary lymph node dissection. I have been fitted with a protheses and 2 mastectomy bras. My problem is when I wear them it is uncomfortable almost all the time. I am also dealing with lymphedema in my left arm and recently started wearing a sleeve and glove. The pain and unmomfortable feeling when wearing the protheses and bra seems to have gotten worse since I started wearing the sleeve and glove. I don't know if my problem is the prothesis, the bras, the lymphedema or if something is wrong from mastectomy. I saw my surgeon a couple weeks after the surgery and she said everything looked good, no need to see her again for a year.
Wondering if anyone else has had a similar experience or if anyone has suggestions for me.
Thanks in advance for your help!!!
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- You are still tender from the trauma of the surgery and it takes a long time for that whole area to heal and settle down...my Dr. said to give it six months before even trying to be fitted for a prosthesis, but I had to work..so I got one..it hurt..I couldn't use it..I ended up stuffing a scarf, a sock, a poof down my bra ,any thing light. I find that the bras to this day aggravate the lymphedema because the fitters try to fit you like a "normal" person and fit the band too tight ..so it cuts into your skin and aggravates any lymphedema in the arm and trunk you have going on. My not perfect solution is..wait for awhile before using a prosthesis then when you do...I use a bra extender, I measure a 34 but the extender lets me set it at 36-38....I actually tuck a soft fleece glove under the band where it digs in the back...I take the prosthesis off as soon as I can. For non work times I use an oversize sports compression bra (like extra large-so there really is no compression) and pin a "bosom buddy" in it (keep meaning to sew in pocket) . The lounge sports bra thing doesn't give you alot of support...but it doesn't hurt. Hang in there.. It takes time and they do kind of cast you off to fend for yourself and downplay what are serious distressing problems.
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Sorry to hear you are experiencing pain. I had some trouble at first too. My skin was extremely sensitive from a different medical issue and I could hardly stand anything on me. My solution was to use regular super soft bras and add an expander on the back so that the bra was quite loose, much looser than I used before surgery. No underwires, just very soft cup bra. I bought the micro bead breast forms from TLC, $40 each and they are totally weightless! I put these in the regular bras. The result is extremely comfortable. I tried all the prosthesis forms, silicon, bead with silicon, swim form, foam forms and the micro bead is the best and lightest and very good price.
Hope you get relief soon!
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Beacon, how are the microbead forms for hugging people? I mean, granted they feel great on you, but when you hug a friend, do they feel like the real deal to them? The foam ones don't, y'know? I even bought a bag of microbeads to try making them with LindaLou's pattern, but I haven't done it because I don't want to put in all that work and then have them feel like I have a lump of playdough stuffed in my bra.
Sheri, hello! I'm so sorry about the stupid pain! I had long-lasting pain following mastectomy until a PT showed me how to de-sensitize my skin, so if it's a sensitivity issue some good PT might help. I find that my chest lymphedema pain is worse when I wear a sleeve that's too snug at the top, so I have mine made a tad bigger at the top than I actually measure -- haven't had any trouble with them falling down, and it does relieve the chest pain. With lymphedema you might find that a cami feels a whole lot better than a bra, and it allows (even encourages) lymph drainage from the chest, whereas a bra kind of cuts it off with the bottom band. Here's a page about chest lymphedema that has a whole slew of ideas for bra/cami options that might be more comfortable for you, even if your lymphedema is only in your arm:
http://www.stepup-speakout.org/breast_chest_trunckal_lymphedema.htmOn the other hand, possibly part of your problem IS chest lymphedema, which is often very painful and can be hard to diagnose because our chests have all this new "geography" after surgery.
I really hope you get some answers and relief soon, as post-mastectomy pain really messes with your life! Do let us know what you discover.
Gentle hugs,
Binney -
Sheri, I have a prosthesis and 2 mastectomy bras that I cannot wear because they make my chest wall and under-arm area very uncomfortable. I used to wear a 34B/36A, so not wearing a bra at all is something I can manage at home. When I do wear a bra, I take it off as soon as I get home.
What's wrong with my professionally-fitted mast bras is that they are too small. Two different fitters insisted that I needed a size 34B bra, even though a 34 band feels extremely tight on me now. I complained to the fitters about the discomfort, but they said if I wore a larger band size, I would not have the "proper" support.
Two things have saved my sanity.
The first is that I went back to wearing my regular, pre-mastectomy bras. One of my favorites is a soft, cotton "sports" bra that hooks in back like a regular bra but is made of especially stretchy, comfortable material. It is so stretchy that I can slip a prosthesis in the cup even without a pocket. (Some day I'll sew pockets in my bras, but I haven't gotten around to that yet.) I wore that bra to one of my fittings and the fitter turned pale and gasped when she saw it. "That bra doesn't give you nearly enough support!", she scolded. Sheesh. How much support do I need for a size A+/B- boob in a 58-year-old body that mostly wears loose-fitting clothing, like T-shirts???
The second thing that helped me was bra band extenders, as scout and beacon have suggested. Extenders allow me to adjust the tightness of the bra band according to how things feel that day. Unfortunately, I have several different bras with a variety of hook styles (2-hook, 3-hook, narrow, wide), and I haven't found the applicable extenders for all those band/hook styles. Once I do, I'll be all set because I can buy "regular" bras with cups that fit and adjust the bands with the extenders. Oh, and sew in those pockets. I also want to try one of the microbead breast forms everyone has been talking about on this forum.
I do not like pain. IMHO, no amount of stylishness is worth being in pain. Two months should be enough time for your swelling to be gone and your incision to be healed; but it might not be enought time for your tissues and nerves to have settled down on that side. My surgeon, who specializes in breast cancer surgery, told me to wait 6 to 8 weeks before being fitted. It was quite awhile longer before I actually started wearing a bra.
I haven't addressed the lymphedema issue, but I do think bra comfort can be a problem when we have LE on that side. Some women on the LE forum on these boards have said they thought their LE got worse when they wore a bra, and improved when they went braless.
<sigh> This is all so complicated!
otter
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Wow, I just wanted to comment that I think it isn't right for your BS to not see you for a whole year. I saw my surgeon about 4 times in the first two months, then every month for the first 6 months Now I will see him every 3 months. I've had plenty of opportunity to ask questions about pain and range of motion issues. He also took out my port and I've seen him twice regarding that alone.
Regarding bras, I'm 9 months out from my mx and still am not "comfortable". Anything that rubs near my armpit really bothers me after awhile and I still can't wait to get it off. I concur that a bigger band size is better. I think it is too soon for you to be comfortable, sorry to say. You are still healing.
Best wishes for a better 2011!
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I had my mastectomy in August 07, and didn't get fitted for a bra until November of that year, as I didn't feel comfortable enough until then to wear a bra. I find many bras uncomfortable, but I did before the mx. Like Otter, I'm a large A/small B. I definitely don't need a super-supportive bra!
I can't wear my bras tight either. If I do, it really get irritated, and that's 3 years later. My under arm can get a bit puffy when I wear a bra all day, so I usually yank my bra off as soon as I can. I pretty much went braless around the house before the mx, and wore a lot of shelf-bra tanks under shirts before so I wouldn't have to wear bras.
I found that for a while after my mx, I liked something with a wide, soft band underneath that wasn't tight. I wore a puffy for quite a while. You might look into TLC's tank. There's only a band across the front of the tank under the pockets. If you wear a light-weight form (like the micro-bead or foam), it won't pull it down, and there wouldn't be very much pressure if any on your chest.
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Hi sheri56,
Sorry you're going through this. As you can see, you're not alone in finding bras and breast forms (prostheses) irritating after surgery. I also was sensitive and easily-irritated for quite a while after my surgery. I got fitted after four weeks but really couldn't wear forms comfortably for some time after that. For me, the biggest help was Still You pocketed camisoles (called "tank tops" but they're really classic camisoles) and foam forms (style 126) by Amoena.
One thing that I think is a great disservice to us post-mastectomy women is the insistence by fitters that we need to wear our bra bands tight for "support." I bought into that at first, which I think is partly why I was so uncomfortable in the early days. Even though I now wear my bras comfortably loose, I have NEVER had a bra ride up on me (unless I was wearing totally unweighted forms). And I don't find that there's excess weight put on my shoulders. With today's lightweight forms, that shouldn't be a problem unless you wear a very large size prosthesis. Even then, I don't think a tighter band would alleviate that significantly, but it can certainly cause discomfort.
When I read your post, one of the things I wondered about was whether perhaps you have slight truncal lymphedema as well as having it in your arm. As Binney said, above, that could certainly account for the pain you're experiencing. A good lymphedema therapist should be able to evaluate that for you.
It took me a while to find really comfortable mastectomy bras. The first ones I was shown were way too rigid for me, especially since I only wanted to wear small breast forms. You might check out two sections of my non-profit website, Breast-Free.org: "Bras and Camisoles" and "Breast Forms." I recommend products that I and other women (many of whom I met on this forum) have found comfortable. My emphasis is always on comfort, with attractiveness a secondary factor. Bear in mind that the recommendations reflect my own experience and that of other women, but may not exactly apply to your situation, especially given your lymphedema.
The main advice I have is to experiment. I've found that adjusting to life after mastectomy without reconstruction is a process (likewise, women who have reconstruction go through a long process of expansions or, if they've had flap surgeries, revisions). Sometimes, it takes quite a bit of trial and error before you find what works for you. But the effort is worth it and, fortunately, almost everything is returnable (if you don't wait too long).
One thing that I've found incredibly helpful, mentioned above by others, is bra extenders. Somehow, I didn't find out about these until four years after my surgery! Now I can wear bras comfortably all day, when I used to wear them only for going out to dinner or other shorter periods. (Otter, have you tried Trulife bra extenders? They come in 2, 3, and 4 hooks and work well with my mastectomy bras. A couple of regular bras I have required different extenders, since the hooks aren't spaced as widely apart.)
I hope this helps. And I hope you feel better soon.
Barbara
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Thank you for your replies! You've given me several suggestions and ideas which I will check into. I am so happy I found this website. You guys are amazing and give me so much hope!
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Binny4 - sorry for the long delay. Of all the breast forms, I find the micro beads to be most "natural" feeling to hug. Foam, not all, and silicon not really either. the micro bead ones need a soft cup bra that will hold a shape for them, otherwise they flatten out. But I really like them - I had my husband "feel them up" and he was surprised they were not so hard. Try em out - they're pretty good
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I just wanted to update on my post. I have tried several things over the last couple of weeks. I purchased a different prosthesis-a lighter weight one with silcon in it. The first hour it felt great. I was so excited....than the pain returned. I ordered a camisole...no luck there either. Not enough support for me. I bought a new bra which was on sale at TLC. It seems OK but cheaply made. I purchased bra extenders for each of the mastectomy bras I have. They seem to help and do take away some of the tighteness I was feeling. I started massaging my under arm and mastectomy site each night. That provides much needed temporary relief. As I sit here and type this....my left side feels tight and aches. I adjust my bra several times during the day. If I am sitting down watching TV, I am the most comfortable. But the second I get up and move around the pain and uncomfortable feelings return. I know it is still early on in the healing stage. But how much longer do you think it will take?
For what it is worth, I am wearing a compression sleeve and glove daily.
I would love to hear from others out there who wear a prothesis and have had a good experience. I really need to hear some positive stories. I am so worried I will have to be uncomfortable the rest of my life.
Thanks for listening! And thanks for any advice/suggestion/support you can provide.
Sheri
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