Chemo starting in December 2010

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  • jtbsmom
    jtbsmom Member Posts: 19
    edited December 2010

    bambi380- my hair is falling out in handfuls and I freaked out my son this morning by pulling some out to show him!!  Going tomorrow to the hairdresser for a really short cut and for my wig fitting- but loving my hats.  

    Did yoga today and it was really good.

    Glad you are feeling well. We are going to kick this chemo thing in the butt!!!

    Laina 

  • LisaMomOfFour
    LisaMomOfFour Member Posts: 465
    edited December 2010

    Well, I'm pulling up the rear on this thread.  Getting my chemo bag ready -- tomorrow is my first treatment.  Have the pre-chemo jitters something fierce, but you all went through that!  Going to spend the afternoon taking my kids ice skating, nice meal, and movie night tonight!   Have no idea how I'll tolerate the treatment, but have certainly picked up a LOT of tips from you guys. 

    Although I am still very confused about whether to take a claritin or a claritin D today......

  • hdangelbaby
    hdangelbaby Member Posts: 731
    edited December 2010

    LisaMomOfFour,

    are you getting AC? if so, you will be getting steroids in your IV in your premeds. They usually give ativan too so if you want to do something afterwards, tell them you don't want the ativan, although ativan is very good at keeping nausea way down. In all honesty, listen to your body, I felt perfectly a-freakin-ok the first 2 hours after my AC treatments, then it hit me like running into a wall. after those steroids wore off , it was bed time and catch up on anti nausea med time. although, I am only 29, and that does put one at one of the highest risks for immediate nausea, but just forewarning you, be careful. for me, and there are others, who, after those steroids wear off, it can be brutal. so kinda plan things out with the disclaimer that if you start not feeling well, you can go straight home. try not to overload yourself. just some caring and kind words (((HUGS)))

  • TonLee
    TonLee Member Posts: 2,626
    edited December 2010

    I take just regular Claritin, actually I take the generic.....I think that should work...will let you know tomorrow!

  • hdangelbaby
    hdangelbaby Member Posts: 731
    edited December 2010

    UMMMM... I think I am having chemo brain..... Lisamomoffour, I just re read your post, DUH! you meant you were taking them out today! not after chemo! I feel like such a dork now!!!

    This 'red devil" really is the devil!! messes with your head! lol....

  • mommafluff61
    mommafluff61 Member Posts: 40
    edited December 2010

    Okay, so tomorrow is my first day of chemo, I've just about got my chemo backpack ready...I'm feeling a bit anxious, freaked-out, etc. about all of this. I read that someone said "chemo is like going in (for a treatment) to get the flu!" I have high hopes that I will breeze right thru all of this.

    I just got back from my hairdresser...she washed and flat-ironed my hair for the last time for a long time...next appt. will be for a "shave."

     Any early December gals use FROZEN PEAS on your finger nails and toe nails??? Anyone else on this thread lose nails or have them turn black? Someone advised using "hard as nails?"

    Anti-Nausea meds...doc prescribed promethazine (only 12 pills) doc said to start them the morning of chemo - chemo nurses said to save them for the next day??? After reading about the steroids tapering off, I think I should go with the docs advice?!?! Did any of you take this?

    LisamomofFour...

    ...let me know how it goes for you, and I will do the same. I grew up in Lockport. Are you near there?

    Thanks, you guys are the best!

  • Lawleigh
    Lawleigh Member Posts: 56
    edited December 2010

    Well here it is 7 days after AC treatment 2.  hdangelbaby I am also on the 12 Taxol weekly treatments following 4 AC DD.  I am also hoping that the stomach issues are a bit better.  My onc did say that the weekly taxol tends to be tolerated better as you are receiving less meds more often.  Of course the down side is it is every week so I guess we shall see.

    My husband cut my hair real short but left the top a bit longer (I think it is coming off today though).  It has made the mess a bit less but I am still conscious of not having a wig on.  I "assembled" my hat hair today so we will see how the golf hat look goes for me as well.  My head is sore but not awful...the end is near for these lil hairs I am afraid.  So far eyebrows and eyelashes are ok...anyone having issues with them (that kinda freaks me out to have no eyelashes).

    Feeling pretty good, just go through days (like today) of feeling a bit sad.  Not sure why but my husband said about this day last round I went through this also.  Hopefully, like last round I will be 100% by Saturday and enjoy a few days before we do it all again.  I have worked since my last treatment except today as I was feeling a bit icky.

    Getting ready for our grandson to semi permanently move in the middle of Feb while his dad goes to Japan for a few months.  I am hoping that having him here will keep me distracted.  It certainly did over Christmas.  But his 7:00 bedtime didnt come early enough some days I must admit.

    Happy New Years to everyone...2011 is just waiting to be a great year.

    Leigh

  • hdangelbaby
    hdangelbaby Member Posts: 731
    edited December 2010

    oh Lawleigh... we are in the same boat aren't we???? and only 2 hours away from eachother! I sure hope the grandson does provide some distraction for you! I get kinda sad around day 7-8 too. Not sure what it is, but I think it may have something to do with getting some energy back, then thinking about everything that is happening to your body. I have 3 cats to keep me distracted. Although... I am starting to wonder... I talk to them an awful lot like kids.... lol... my husband works 2 jobs, so he isn't around very much so it's just the cats and I alot of the time. But that's ok with me. I don't need to have someone around round the clock ya know? I kinda like my alone time and not having to enertain anyone , take a nap when I want, do what I want when I want. If I want to see someone, I call and make a date :) also, I found out after my surgery, having someone here every single day for 2 weeks, bringing dinners and visiting what not, I felt like a tape recorder spitting out the same..... story...... about....... cancer..... every.... single..... time.... and answering everyones questions over.... and over..... and over....!!!

    Ah well.... after the Big Shave, I did go out and buy some much needed winter cute boots. Retail therapy. It truly works!

    Thinking I need a new Hello Kitty purse too....

    Well, thanks all for kinda listening to me vent, sort of! sometimes I just want to scream what I wrote above, but always catch myself!!

    (((HUGS)))--Angel

  • spartina
    spartina Member Posts: 68
    edited December 2010

    hdangelbaby and lawleigh-

    Yesterday and today, I've been feeling the sadness you both spoke about.  My last round was Dec 21st.  And it's hard to talk to friends about being sad.  It is a cardinal sin to have cancer and be sad. People look at you like if you continue being sad, you will seal your fate.

    I shaved all my hair off today.  I wasn't planning on it.  Just got a thought and went to the buzzer and started buzzing. A week ago, I was crying my eyes out when the first strands came away from my head so easily.  Today it felt kind of liberating.  I took a picture of myself and it looked like my father (whose been gone 33 years) was looking back at me.  I never realized how much I looked like my Dad.   

    Thanks for listening.

    Maria 

  • LisaMomOfFour
    LisaMomOfFour Member Posts: 465
    edited December 2010

    mommafluff61....  yes I am very near Lockport.... Downers Grove.  Since they built the new expressway, Lockport is now twenty minutes away!  Small world. 

  • hdangelbaby
    hdangelbaby Member Posts: 731
    edited December 2010

    spartina, you are a very strong woman!! I felt like I wrote your post myself it was so identical to how I was feeling when I buzzed my hair! It truly was more liberating than traumatic. Thank god my husband loves it too. he even kisses my head when he leaves for work.

    for lack of a better way to say it

    my armpit hair is falling out

    and that puts a smile on my face!

    I am a sicilian woman, and have black hair, EVERYWHERE, and no matter how close you shave the old armpits, there is always that "shadow"

    now for aboout 6 months, i don't have to shave them, and i won't have that shadow

    now that's something to be happy about!Tongue out

    we must and i mean MUST embrace the small things that make us smile!

  • jtbsmom
    jtbsmom Member Posts: 19
    edited December 2010

    the shave is today.  the hair is everywhere but on my head.  taking a shower is depressing.

  • hdangelbaby
    hdangelbaby Member Posts: 731
    edited December 2010

    that's how i felt to jtbsmom. it was depressing taking a shower because all the hair...... everywhere but on my head. When we buzzed it off, it was liberating. we laughed all the way through it, although your experience will be your own and personal, and now showers are not depressing anymore. they take half as long, and so does getting ready!!

    READY MADE HAIR!! WIG!!

  • LEisenbarth
    LEisenbarth Member Posts: 30
    edited December 2010

    I know what you mean,  my shower was a mess this morning with all the hair coming off.  I plan on shaving it tomorrow when my friend comes over to ring in the New Year.

    Hope everyone has a safe and Happy oneCool 

    Hugs and Prayers ~Leslie

  • bambi380
    bambi380 Member Posts: 44
    edited December 2010

    I asked my onc the claritin D question today and he seemed puzzled by the use of it. I found that interesting. He suggested motrin or advil over claritin. I asked him again and he was adamant about it the 2nd time. At least he was not like the kids I taught and changed his answer. Smile

     So many opinions concerning what to do.....

  • bambi380
    bambi380 Member Posts: 44
    edited December 2010
    Jtbs is is kinda nice not to have to blow dry your hair. Smile
  • TonLee
    TonLee Member Posts: 2,626
    edited December 2010

    Bambi, I gave myself the first Neulasta shot yesterday...took a regular claritin last night (take them everyday), and Aleve this morning.

    I'm fine.  But I can tell the Aleve is starting to wear off.

    Try it without claritin, if it hurts, next time try it with it....I'd trust the experience of the hundreds of women here over a single Dr...but that's just me.

  • joystars
    joystars Member Posts: 95
    edited December 2010
    spartina, hdangelbaby & lawleigh,  I too experience the sadness you spoke about. Yesterday was my 7th day post 1st round of chemo and I felt quite down, had some trouble to sleep and even cried a bit... weird that it happens until now. I'm also afraid to suffer from baby blues and have no clue how to notice the difference. Oh well...

    Today, to cheer myself up a bit more, asked my parents to babysit my 1 month old baby. Hubby and I went out and met with some friends for dinner. Felt good to see people around, to chit chat about other things rather than milk bottles, diapers, chemo, wigs, hair and nausea.
    Not so nice to feel the -11C weather out there but even that was in a way good for me too, fresh cold air!

    jtbsmom, good luck with the shave... hope the experience is liberating for you and not too bad or shocking. (HUGS)

    And talking about hair, I still have mine, all of it. I can notice a difference on the way it feels, less thick. Got a wig already. Hair cut will be next week, will try to copy cat the wig's style (super short) in an attempt to fool myself and try to get use to that lenght... so when my hair starts to fall and I start to wear the wig, I'll be used to it.... or something like that.

    Anyways, not long before the next baby's feed time... HAPPY NEW YEAR TO YOU ALL!!! 2011 BRING IT ON! :)
  • LisaMomOfFour
    LisaMomOfFour Member Posts: 465
    edited December 2010

    Just back from my first infusion... not as terrifying an experience as I expected it to be.  I feel fine now, I know that's going to wear off eventually.....  just feel a little loopy, not myself, and even though they said I could drive, I wouldn't trust myself behind the wheel right now, kind of foggy. 

    Thanks for all the support from everyone on this thread.  It is very encouraging to go into this experience with some facts. 

    I started taking Claritin D yesterday and plan to continue for a few more days. 

  • TonLee
    TonLee Member Posts: 2,626
    edited December 2010

    Glad to hear it Lisa...

    Hugs to you Joy...I went ahead and shaved my head today....got sick of the Gollum comb over....haha

  • dlcw
    dlcw Member Posts: 107
    edited December 2010

    Lisa - glad it went smoothly - I too experienced the foggy after effects - they gave me Emend, decadron, and something else before they started the infusion and I think that's what caused the wierd dull feeling I had. 

    Had my last dose of the first cycle today - 10 days off now to recover.  Had the Neulasta today - been taking Claritin and so far am not feeling anything but it's only been a few hours.  Sure hope it's not as bad as I fear it will be.

    Take care all.

    dlcw

  • sammolisa
    sammolisa Member Posts: 180
    edited December 2010

    Hey all!

    Day 2 of my 3rd  AC.   To all who have been down and sad.  I went through it too.  Cried and everything.  My brother gave me the whole "you have a bad attitude" speech and my hubby was  about to strangle him!    For me it was ok to be sad and grieve.   I don't believe for one second that God won't heal me just because I cried.   Anyway,   holding my own down here in lovely Nashville.   Had some quiet holidays as all of my family lives out of state and hubby had to work christmas day - tho he did get to get off a coupe hours early and took me to see a movie. (Harry Potter)  

    He has a bad cold right now tho and we can't really be close to each other which I miss terribly.   He shaved my head around 10 days ago and now that it is gone I agree it is so much better to get ready!  and shower!  LOL.

    Doc says I am doing great.   Have lost around 22 pounds all together already.   I seem to crave french fries and carbs in the beginning tho I can't eat alot in the first week,   then the 2nd week all I want is comfort food.   Got my neulasta shot today. I got it in the stomach this time and it didn't hurt - yay!   So far so good,  tho I know the aches are coming.  Got plenty of drugs to counter act it.    Have had alot of mouth sores from round 2 so this time they Rx'd the magic mouthwash - it numbs everything!

    As for hair...... head is shaved but it's getting stubble slowly but surely,  "the nether parts"  lost most of it but not all- same with legs and underarms - not all gone - just mostly gone.  Weird I think.   I figured it woulda fell all out completely if it was gonna go.  But hey it still has another 13 treatments to fall out!  Eyebrows and eyelashes are fine so far - noticing they aren't growing and I don't have to pluck.

    Have heard alot of stories of the nails falling off and turning colors but nothing yet here.   My nails actually look like they are growing better for some reason - I am constantly cutting them.

    Hugs to all,

    Lisa

  • mommafluff61
    mommafluff61 Member Posts: 40
    edited December 2010

    Hi LisaMomof4...

    Wow, it is a small world...I still have lots of family in the Lockport/Joliet/New Lenox area!

    ...I just had my first chemo today at 9am (T/C)/ I got out of there about 1:30pm. I took a friend with me and she was such a help...always made sure my tootsies and fingers were "frozen." My husband brought my 11 yr old daughter to visit for a minute, hopefully that will help aleviate any fears about chemo she might have.

    I feel great other than feeling a bit sleepy/loopy. The fam is watching basketball in the other room while I sit in the living room with a dog and cat curled up next to me! Gotta love that unconditional critter love ! 

    I did use the frozen peas...hope it helps. I also put them on for a few hours when I got home. I'll keep you updated. Oh,  I also used hard as nails...

     I made some amazing knorr spinach dip for tomorrow night! A few families are bringing over enchilladas and we will all sit around and welcome in the New Year together! Just playing it by ear!

    Happy New Year to all of you and thanks again for all the great answers to all my crazy questions! 

  • Lawleigh
    Lawleigh Member Posts: 56
    edited December 2010

    Angel, Maria and Lisa,

    Thank you so much  for the encouraging words on the sadness.  I was so worried I was being abnormal and was feeling guilty for feeling sad when I was starting to feel physically better.

    We did the 2nd hair cut last night.  My husband cut it really short (baby steps), but it is so much better than the long strands coming out in the shower.  That was incredibly depressing and maddening (I hate that feel of hair wrapped around my hands...ick).  Figure this weekend will be the final shave.  i have been wearing my wig everyday...although today I was out with clients (who don't know my situation) and we had about 40 mile an hour sustained winds.  To say the least I was a little (ok a lot ) nervous about my wig stability.  Who would have ever thought it would come to this.

    Angel...go get that Hello Kitty purse.  I am great with retail therapy.

    Ton Lee- Right on, trust the experience of many over the advice of one.  10 years ago many of them would have shrugged off many of the helpful tips we have shared here that they are swear to today as if it was their idea...lol.

    Happy New Years to All!

    Leigh

  • msjag
    msjag Member Posts: 416
    edited December 2010

    It's funny isn't it, we are all being so strong for everyone around us, and probably positive as we can, and we wonder if its ok to be sad, or others  in our lives comment on it.  Reality, we are fighting the fight of our lives and if we are sad, crying, depressed for momments or hours, I think we've earned that right.   It's the side effects, the hair, the nails, the sadness, the worry, that people around us see or question, but they can't see or feel our inner struggle of just wanting to kick this cancer to the curb.  And that's my new motto of the year, when someone calls and says, you sound down, or sound tired, not yourself,  I tell them its alot of work kicking cancer to the curb, and how I feel is all a part of the fight. 

    Lisa, glad your first tx went ok...here's wishing you no S/E,  Leigh, I'm with you, I use everything all of you give for tips, and my s/e have been so minor.  I have one more that may be helpful, this time I was unplugged from the wall (battery ran the iv) and I walked often through my C/T infusion, after the premeds.*when Ididn't have the ice on my hands, toes!!)   I drank ice water alot, and the walking helped me to have no aches from sitting all those hours.  Nurse pract. said she found patients who got up and walked the halls didn't complian from back pain, muscle spasms. Don't know if this is helpful. I certainly felt the Difference. Momma, wishing you good days to come after treatment Lisa,(Samm) sorry to hear about the mouth sores, no nail issues but every few days my big toe feels funny for a few minutes, does anyone thnk that's neuropothy? 

    Gonna be a warm 45 in MA!!! yahoooo...heat wave!!!!

    JoAnn

  • shelbytroy12
    shelbytroy12 Member Posts: 26
    edited December 2010

    I started TC 14 days ago for the first time.  Hair is starting to shed.  I think the whole build up to the hair falling out is the worst part for me.  I just want to get it over with so I can move on. I have the buzzers ready.  Are they easy to use?  My husband will do it but is afraid he will hurt me. 

    I've had almost every S/E but the worst part was having a fever for 4 days when my WBC was .6!  To have the fever, chills and aches on top of everything else was miserable. I had to go to the hospital twice (once on Christmas Day) to get checked out.  I can't believe how many pills I've taken in the past 2 weeks.  I am a person who won't even take a headache pill unless it's really bad. I've wanted to give up a few times but it's when I'm at my weakest - at night, feeling sick, etc.  I'm much better during the day.  I feel really good right now.  Might work from home next week and see if that proves to be a good distraction or if it adds to my stress.  At least it looks like I can enjoy New Year's Eve.  Here's wishing all a peaceful, healthy New Year.  Stay strong.

  • hdangelbaby
    hdangelbaby Member Posts: 731
    edited December 2010

    Lawleigh, I DID go out and buy that Hello Kitty Purse! My husband just rolled his eyes too, haha! I told him " yes, it's replacement for my hair loss, get off my back. you wouldn't feel normal if your balls got whacked off!!!"

    not a word about my purse or boots since! lol!

    I'm feeling much better as the week progressed. I am finding I have that sadness around day 6-8 then as I start feeling physically better, i feel mentally better.

    I got cleared by my doc to go to my absolute favorite bar that has the most amazing new years buffet tonight! yay!! Our best friends and us have gone the last 5 years, and I really wanted to go this year, being that it's just before my next treatment and I feel mostly human! He asked if it was like going to the Golden Corral or something like that. I told him "no, it's in a town called Eden ( seriously like 200 people live there), and maybe 50-70 people total come for it for the whole night. he said since my counts stayed up I could go, just no raw oysters, or med rare prime rib, or anything that has been out way long. So, my best friend in the entire world calls and makes us reservations, and she makes them for 7 pm! right when the buffet starts! so we will be the kind of first go around at the food before it gets all picked over, picked on, and/or sneezed on, lol!!

    Lawleigh, I know exactly what you mean by the wind and the wig. I was out to lunch with a friend yesterday and the wind was so bad, I thought mine would come off too! Embarassed

    Ahhh... I wish I was in Boise right now... on 8th and Grove , eating at the basque restaurant (my husband is basque), and then going around the corner to Bardenays and having a mojito. They make the best ones ever!!! But no hard liquor.... booo!! just wine and beer!!! which i WILL  be having tonight!Laughing

    Best wishes to all for the new year! next year is going to rock ladies! you know why? all of our chemo and radiation is going to be over in 2011!! on our way to remission!!!

    wishing all a SE free new years!!!!

  • sunflower71
    sunflower71 Member Posts: 130
    edited December 2010

    Happy New Year Ladies!

    I have been MIA from the boards lately, I had a tough 2nd round in terms of sadness and side effects.  Maybe it was because my worst days were Christmas Eve and day.  I tried to sit with my family at the dinner table (I was in my pajamas) and eat the amazing meal my Dad had cooked.  But I had to excuse myself after a few minutes because if I looked or smelled food for one more second I would hurl.  It was also hard for my Mom to see me in pain.  She does not handle it well.  On top of that when I arrived back home my divorce papers were waiting for me. Before I was diagnosed I signed off my rights to contest the divorce.  After I was diagnosed, I  begged my ex to not go through with the divorce because I was on his health insurance.  I offered to pay the difference in his check.  I offered to sign over mutual property.  I offered to send him a check for the health insurance for one year.  He said he needed to move on.  He assured me I would be covered until the end of the year and then at that time I would have to go COBRA.  Guess what?  My insurance ended the day of the divorce, Dec.6th!  Of course, once COBRA starts it will be retroactive, but until then I am treated like I have no insurance.  The cancer center called and told me I could not come in for my radiology onco appt.  I am thankful that no one got alerted on chemo day, I assume they will bill for that this week and get denied.  I have sent the cobra forms in by fax and register mail  (I did that the moment I got them, they in turn are suppose to send back a payment coupon book). I am so frustrated.  I am sorry for the rant ladies, I had to get it out.

  • hdangelbaby
    hdangelbaby Member Posts: 731
    edited December 2010

    I thought you could not get denied treatment of a life threatening disease? I know I could be wrong, but my cancer center told me on day one, if for some reason I did not have insurance, that i still come in for all my treatments. she (the financial advisor) told me they will still treat me, no questions asked. You may want to contact your financial advisior ( if you have one at your cancer center) and find out. Good luck to you!

  • JulieH
    JulieH Member Posts: 351
    edited December 2010

    Sunflower71:  I'm not on this thread, I don't start chemo until next month, but I've read this thread avidly to get all the information I could, and when I read your post I just had to reply and say how very sorry I am you're having to deal with the hell you are.  Insurance issues are the last thing any of us should have to worry about at a time like this and add to that an insensitive ass of an ex.  I know you'll have the support of all the women on this board and hope that you can take strength from that.  My very best thoughts are with you as you navigate all of this.

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