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  • Kezzie62
    Kezzie62 Member Posts: 189
    edited December 2010

    barbe1958, thank you for your reply.  can I ask did you end up with lots of extra skin/fat under your arms. I am a bit worried that I will have all this extra that can be removed... I know I will need to change the way I stand and I want to slim down a bit so I will look ok.  I am not worried about not having any boobs but I do worry that I will look very odd with a flat chest but what looks like boobs under my arms...

  • barbe1958
    barbe1958 Member Posts: 19,757
    edited December 2010

    They have to stop the cut somewhere, so they stop under your arm. Make sure your surgeon knows you are NOT having reconstruction. He will do the best he can but you may need an incision revision. I did on my cancer side. They tweak the skin like a dart if you can imagine. But they will leave a LOT of extra skin if you're not adament that you aren't reconstructing.

    My neck and back are so much better without the weight of my breasts. I don't wear foobs either because I am a stubborn old fool. This way I don't have to wear a bra and that was important to me. If I didn't have real breasts, then why should I still have to wear a bra? To each his own remember....

  • mrsnjband
    mrsnjband Member Posts: 1,409
    edited December 2010

    I'm a couple years ahead of you I had my DMX in July 08.  I go flat & I love it!  I wore a cami with puffs for about 6 months until I couldn't stand it another day.  I occassionally were bumps, but not very often.  I just have too much pain in my ribs from the radiation & I really don't miss the "over the shoulder boulder holder."

    I have just learned to buy different kinds of clothes.  Anyone who didn't know me before wouldn't notice it at all.  I'm not considering reconstruction but may need some scar revision.

    Sending love & prayers.  Have a Blessed Christmas. NJ

  • Kezzie62
    Kezzie62 Member Posts: 189
    edited December 2010

    You ladies are amazing... I have told my BS that I do not want or need reconstruction. She has said she will make me as tidy as possible but as I weigh about 200lbs I may find I have a bulge under my arms until I lose some weight, so I guess I have a good incentive to diet and excersize to tone things up.

    I am going to contact my BS nurse practitioner to ask about a prescription for the post surgery camisols so I can get it ahead of time. I have heard the cami is so useful...

  • robinlbe
    robinlbe Member Posts: 585
    edited December 2010

    I'm an an-isser, too...."robin-no-breast"....and I go totally flat 95% of the time!  Seriously :)  I only wear "bumps" if my outfit needs filling out.  I even wear swimsuits flat!!  I have two bras, two camis that forms will go in, and two different sets of forms - silicone and microbeads.  Hate them all.  I've adapted my wardrode a smidgeon, and I look for "flat" shirts (shirts that hange loosely and will hide the flatness), but sometimes I will wear clinging shirts, not caring in the least that I look flat.  Some of the gals who have been on here for awhile have heard me say this, but my body shape does help a bit - I'm 5'11" and weigh about 130 lbs, so my being on the thinner side does help, but even then, I"m not sure I'd worry about it.

     Of course, I get asked a lot if I'm ever going to reconstruct.  And if I continue to feel this way, I will continue to say NO WAY!!!!  No more surgeries for me....and like you, PHEW, I'm boobless and uterus-less (as of two weeks ago!!)

    Keep up the positive attitude...and I tell ya, the gals on BCO *really* helped me through some of my more emotional times when I was second guessing myself....but deep down, I knew I had made the right decision to not reconstruct.

    blessings..robin

  • phew
    phew Member Posts: 225
    edited December 2010

    robin---sometimes i just feel loke a brat.....i tell people yeah, as soon as i have that uterus reconstrucrtion and my ear unpearcing!   nobody would ever asksuch things.   but breasts i guess are fair game?  how rude!

  • barbe1958
    barbe1958 Member Posts: 19,757
    edited December 2010

    Kezzie, don't be in a hurry for a cammy for right after surgery. There are special ones for the ladies who reconstruct and they HAVE to wear them. You may glory in having nothing against your skin and wound for a while.....plus the special ones have fluffies in them so you don't feel flat. If you're going to stay flat then why spend the money? I'm just saying....

  • phew
    phew Member Posts: 225
    edited December 2010
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  • phew
    phew Member Posts: 225
    edited December 2010

    oy vay, that was not to happen

    i wanted to wish a happy day to those with cchristmas in their lives.  good family yimes, good food and great  celebration about booblessness! 

  • Kezzie62
    Kezzie62 Member Posts: 189
    edited December 2010

    barbe1958, I hear what you are saying about not needing the post surgery cami, A friend of mine who had hers done 6 months ago said she found it very useful for manageing the drains and as she needed to have a dressing over one of her wounds the cami held it in place so she did not need to use tape.

    My BS reccommends using the cami to help with swelling and drain management, The one my frind got had pockets for the fluffies so they can be removed.  The cost of the cami is covered by my medical insurance so I might get one to try.

    Merry Christmas to all my new friends here on BCO...

    Kezzie

  • barbe1958
    barbe1958 Member Posts: 19,757
    edited December 2010

    Good info Kezzie, sounds like what you need!

  • robinlbe
    robinlbe Member Posts: 585
    edited December 2010

    Kezzie, I had two of those kinds of camis that I wore for the first couple of months.  They held those little fluffy things while I was trying to adjust to the new me.....they had the pockets to hold the drain tube thingies, but only when I was down to two.  I got the kind that had the lacey fill-in at the top, and it looked cute with my tops.  They helped me make the transition.  Insurance covered the first one, and the hospital gave us a good deal on the 2nd one.  It was nice to have the 2nd one so I'd have the extra while the 1st was being washed.

    Now, they're both sitting in my drawers.....at first I thought I had wasted my money, BUT they served there purpose and now when I realize how much they helped me - both physically and emotionally, they were probably worth it.

    blessings....robin

  • phew
    phew Member Posts: 225
    edited December 2010

    robinibe -- if only there were an invisible intel faierie to tell us what and if we'll need, beforehand!

    things!  i bought the cami with pouches that attach with velcro for drainage,  and falsies in case ---cuz doesnt eveyone--wanted them.  found out 3 things  1) fluffies are not just cosmetic.  if i wear something that i do wany wear with a bra....cuz now the other side is feeling like the one that had cancer, i need something to anchor down the flat side.  who knew?    2)  for the the drainage pumps i ended up plutting them in pockts of dresses or shirts that i already had.  placement was perfect and having them on the outside was very convenient.    3)  i need undershirts/camilols that are very titght....i still feel like i have a heavy beast there, AND gotta be silky cuz it irritates my skin.  

    and finally, i donated my cami to chemo place.  i have an ugly scar tthat is proof  I had the early chance  and speedy practioners to  surrended a canceous breast, but i dont want "any stinkin badges" to remind me

  • phew
    phew Member Posts: 225
    edited December 2010

    hi room!  seeing your words, i realize how arrogant i have been about this.  i havve gone thru other cancers and radiation, so i figured i was strong and that somehow that meant i felt no pain or discomfort or distress.  i was only falsey lcavalier.  i didnt admit to myself that indeed, my scar is very disfigured and i am in pain...phanto or real?  that doesnt matter.  i hurt and the tamozifen makes me feeel icky.  i think i needed to look good to my friends, to maintain the high drama of oh no! this after two brain and  endometrial surgeries for cancer.  

    so, thanks you all for the permission to be honest AND to be ok.  tou all rock! 

  • Wonder444
    Wonder444 Member Posts: 12
    edited December 2010

    Good evening ladies,

    I had  both breast removed.  The first was a radical, leaving next to nothing as for tissue . . muscle was removed.  The second breast was removed in 1996 by having a modified radical.  Since the first surgery left very little tissue I was not a candidate for reconstruction.  Although the decision wasn't made by me, I was thankful I didn't have to go through more surgeries.  Walking around the house it is  topless time and it feels great.  Twenty years later I have since added more to my waist line, not much but more. So I do wear my fake boobs in public.  I wear the stick to your chest type which I love.  Wearing them helps conceal the tummy.  I have never been ashame of my scars.  It was what I needed to do to borrow more time since I wasn't suppose to  reach the five year mark.  Going in tomorrow to see if a specialist to find out if the cancer has returned or if I have perhaps a new one.  Really would rather be doing anything else but that, LOL

  • phew
    phew Member Posts: 225
    edited December 2010

    yup---i luv not haivng somethig that hangs and gets me sweaty and doesnt fit into any bra

    NEVER neen so comfy in my body!

    ~ ~ nancy-carol 

  • barbe1958
    barbe1958 Member Posts: 19,757
    edited December 2010

    Good luck tomorrow Wonder.....

  • Kezzie62
    Kezzie62 Member Posts: 189
    edited December 2010

    Wonder... sorry to hear you are having issues again.  good luck tomorrow..

  • phew
    phew Member Posts: 225
    edited December 2010

    wonder:  hope nothimg new   for a very polyana comments:  we/YOU know how to do it already.....it sux     you have a zillion women praying (in whatever way they believe)  

  • brazos58
    brazos58 Member Posts: 261
    edited February 2011

    (( Everyone Here))

    Wonder... keeping you company as I have a nodule on my chest wall that I have to get checked out and I am a BMX from 6/10. Strength to see you thru this nasty time.

    Robin... you sound alot like me. 90% of the time I am flat/ aka commando aka double amazon woman. I just got the microbead and silicone forms and I want to thow them out the window. I wore them for Christmas and I just am going to have to figure out what to wear boobless. I feel like a total IDIOT. Nothing about breast cancer will ever bring me back to real.... and boobless is as close to real as I can get.  Its going to take a journey to get comfortable in this new body.

    I can not fathom recon... I am a nurse and I know way to much.... it looks so disturbing to me. My scars are real. Implants and harvested mounds of re-vascularized fat and tattoes for nipples are something I can not wrap my head around.

    I have been missing my Boobs really bad. I will be going on ok and then WHAM! I will get hit with another part of my life that is gone... esp involving the DH... It is so hard to move past the grief and get on with loving yourself... and believing that you are loveable. It still torments me seeing all the Boobies Bouncing in the World unscathed....

    In the meantime I am trying to figure out what to wear to rock in the new year with 2 concerts.

  • phew
    phew Member Posts: 225
    edited December 2010
    brazos  i wass just talking boobie alternatives.  i realize the only reason to have one is to anchor down the cotton camis i have been wearing ....MX , so i still have one side.     i agree with on everything except the sadness part.  for years i felt that i had some elsed breast on my chest...that it did not belong to me!  it was heavy and twice the size of the other and had caused pain and cysts for nearly 3 decades.so, other than having to accodate the lopsided occasinos  which are few and far between.   this may be a temporart euphoria at just getting ride of that alien,  but gotta admit!  i am thrilled to wear strappy things, braless numbers etc.  that part is a big yey!  of courwse there's that pain and drug part, but  at least i got perqs or should i say perkiy!

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