LCIS need a little support
Hi everyone, I've been checking out the posts here for a little while. You are all amazing and supportive women and I wanted to thank you for all of the detailed information I have gathered here.
I was diagnosed with LCIS, ADH and ALH after a wide excisional biopsy in November. I'm 39 and recently separated. The biopsied breast is at least a full size smaller and continues to shrink, my nipple seems to be pointing upward and inward. It's really bothering me. I am feeling so alone with this diagnosis. I know how fortunate I am to have an early diagnosis and the luxury of time to monitor closely and make long-term decisions. I have a second opinion with a breast oncologist at MGH sheduled at the end of January.
I work full time and I'm raising two beautiful boys, but I am so distracted by this that I lose focus and get sidetracked so easily. I'm seeing a therapist but we talk more about the psycological issues of my husband leaving than about the LCIS. I never expected to be going through this without the support of my husband and it is challenging.
I'm looking for prayers and support. Thanks ladies!
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Hi mamaShells,
So sorry you are going thru this unknown-cancer-stuff at an already difficult time in life. I have LCIS & ADH. My mom, aunt & grandmother all had BC, so you can say I've got some family history, too. I found out end of August and am being seen at MGH. I underwent BMX two weeks ago today.
I turned 37 on the surgery date and have young (5 & 7 yrs) daughters. To me, the surgery was the right option. I should be getting my final path report today and I anxiously hope it was clear and I can put the past few months behind me and move forward. I am in no way trying to tell you what to do...I opted for (hopefully, as long as my news today is good) no tamoxifen treatment for 5 years and I knew that 6 mo checkups/mri's/mamms would make me crazy.
It really is a personal choice what you choose as your course of action, but if you need anything, feel free to PM me. I LOVE my BS/PS at MGH. I had a nipple sparing MX and so far, I am really impressed with the results...good luck and you are not alone!
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Mama Shells: I'm so sorry for your stress. I too had a really hard time the first several months after diagnosis as there really is not clear path to follow. I think I wrote this somewhere else but I saw a medical social worker at a major cancer center (not where I'm seen for my stuff though)- my husband set it up because he basically felt I was losing my mind over this and he didn't know how to help. I was so glad to have done this. The first thing I talked with her about was the actual diagnosis and she asked some good questions and then asked my gut reaction on what treatment plan to take. Then she said to mentally take that option, wrap it up prettily and set it on an imaginary shelf in my mind. And then stop. She told me to take a few months and just sit with it for a while and when I got too stressed, to think of that present to myself. I know this may sound corny but it helped me so much. When I finally decided to take down the present and use it, I felt really good about the decision and knew that it was right for me. Does this make sense? Sounds silly as I write it, but somehow it worked. Anyway, please use me and the others here as a sounding board. Tell us your fears and worries and we'll listen and respond. I'll be watching out for you. All the best, Kelly
Fire- Dancer- I've been following your progress on the nipple sparing thread and am so happy for you that you're doing so well after surgery. My fingers are crossed for a good path report. I'm following your footsteps on Jan. 26th. -Kelly
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Thanks, Kelly! It has been a crazy time but I feel sooo much better on the "other side" of surgery. It was definitley the right decsion for me and I've never looked back. I wish you all the best in the next weeks, trust me when I say I understand how the weeks leading up are intense & stressful, but it DOES get better! I had heard this from others on the boards here and now I get it. I'll be looking for you on these boards and wishing you all the best! If you ever need anything, I'm here :-) ~megan
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Mammashells, having the diagnosis that you do, I'd step back and try and relax.You have nothing that is pushing you on to do anything other than monitor yourself, whether it be for 6 months to 6 years.I think the issue with your husband is probably more pressing at this time.LCIS is not cancer. For the majority of women that have it, it never progresses any further.For a small number it may go on to become something more serious.For this reason you need to be monitored with regular mammos,possibly mri and pelvic ultrasounds and frequent manual breast exams by someone proficient in doing this. The possibility of also taking medication should be discussed.A breast oncologist would coordinate all these exams , meds and any other testing needed. Unfortunately sometimes what you are experiencing post excisional biopsy happens, particularly if the area that was excised is large.As a result of my biopsy my one breast is quite a bit smaller and the nipple is pointed outward.The scar has also formed a keloid so it looks awful and is quite painful most days.However, compared to more drastic surgery,it's a small price to pay.Rather than dread these frequent exams I feel comforted in the fact the someone is watching out for my wellness and should anything of a more serious nature be found it will be immediately dealt with.
I will definately keep you and your 2 children in my prayers.
Barbara
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Thanks for your posts, prayers and support!
Fire-dancer, I wish you all the best with the healing process and I hope that your path report came back clear! Thanks for sharing your situation with me.
Kelly, how long did you sit with your decision before your scheduled surgery? I am anxiously awaiting my second opinion appointment to see what they have to say after reviewing my slides and path report. I am planning to give myself a few months, get through this separation and the holidays with my children and wait until my next mamogram/MRI for now...
Thanks again, ladies!
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mammashells-----there is so much that is controversial with LCIS, but the one thing that is certain, is that you have time to make your decisions. There is no need to rush into anything, since it is non-invasive. I was diagnosed with LCIS over 7 years ago and I am still doing high risk surviellance. (alternating mammos and MRIs every 6 months, breast exams on the opposite 6 months, took tamoxifen for 5 years, and now take evista for further prevention.) Feel free to PM me if you want to talk.
anne
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Mamma Shells:
Take your time, its your decision. I was diagnosed April 2010, with LCIS. Put on Tamoxifen. I have geen going back and forth in my mind what do I do. Spoke to 2 surgeons, and other nursing staff, and I have decided to have the bilateral mastectomy. Sch. for pre op Jan 20th, more than likely surgery will be in Feb.
A big hug to your boys, prayers are with you. Remember do what you...you...want to do. Listen and gather all the info around, then decide. Time is on your side.
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Well, haha. I had my first visit with my new onc on Friday. My former onc is in semi-retirement. I'm will be finishing up my 5 years of tamoxifen this next fall.
Looks like:
a) When I was diagnosed 5 years ago with classic LCIS, (and subsequently with ALH), someone did recommend bilateral MRIs, but that was certainly never done. Maybe insurance denied. But, anyway, as the onc said, its a moot point now, since I haven't had 'any worse' appear in the last 5 years.
b) Looks like while I do have an appointment with her in 6 months, only because I'm a new patient, what she is pushing for is to see her annually, and have my OB-GYN give me the alternative 6 month breast exam. (The NCCN guidelines *are* for clinical exam every 6-12 months, and annual mammograms.)
c) She's just ordering annual mammos.
My blood pressure was 150/90 because when I went in to register, the registrar said she was going to change my alias name to my real name. (I just spent the last 6 months getting rid of my real name, because my med and diagnosis list was potentially going straight to my supervisor who works in the pharmacy.) Luckily the registrar did check with her supervisor. The supervisor said she checked with the HIPAA officer, and, (in a tone of amazement) said all that I said was true!!!!!!!! (My gosh!!) So I could keep my alias.
My Obgyn doesn't want to deal with any of my breast issues.
I know clinical exams only catch ummm maybe ??10% of breast cancers??? but I feel somewhat neglected. I think I have the least intensive followup of any of the LCIS regulars here (unless they choose not to go to their docs. I also don't know if classic LCIS women who choose bilateral mastectomies get twice a year followups after their BPMs?) On the other hand, I'm on tamoxifen, which may decrease my incidence at least in the immediate future by some 50% which would put my average risk at roughly 10-20%.
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MamaShells,
How are you? Please let us know how's everything.
Having a PBLM for ALH and or LCIS was comforting for me. Opinions of how quickly something irregular gets "worse", if it does, changes over time. So while the pros try to figure it out, I've removed my breast and myself from the frequent follow-ups and suggested medication and lowered my risk of breast cancer to 2-3%.
Thank God each of us can have a choice of treatment and subsequent risk. -
Hi Ladies! I should provide an update
but I'm still wandering aimlessly through the fog these days! I had my appointment with the Onc at MGH and she was fantastic. Hearing about how excited she was to meet with me because I was the one patient she had that day that didn't have cancer made me feel awkward. Yes, we are so fortunate to have an early diagnosis and so blessed to have time and choices! But, there is also the wait and worry aspect of this disease and it is so conflicting. I am so very thankful that they found nothing more than ADH, ALH and LCIS upon a second review of my slides. I am so thankful to have time to heal and get through the breakup of my marriage.
My sister-in-law is Stage 3 ILC and she is still going through treatment, she's had mastectomies, all lymph nodes removed, chemo, and now she's on to radiation. She has always been an amazing woman, and she is full of fight and life. Who am I to complain about LCIS when I see what "worse" looks like? With that said, I want to avoid anything worse at all costs.
The Onc felt very strongly that I should be taking Tamoxifen, she called it in for me and it sits on the kitchen counter taunting me. I decided that I should probably start a low dose antidepressant before I tackle the Tamoxifen, so I started a low dose of Celexa last week. I have headaches from it but I am feeling a little less depressed and crying less, I am hoping to motivate myself to get around to doing some things that I have been putting off like hiring a divorce attorney.
The Onc did talk about BMX with me, she seemed very pro Tamoxifen and thought that now was a bad time for me to do anything further, she asked me to try the Tamoxifen and to give myself time to get through the other things going on in my life. She did say that if I wanted to talk about BMX further that I was a good candidate for some of the newer reconstruction options and would get me in with their chief of plastics who specializes in reconstruction and had has good results with nipple sparing surgeries.
I am still leaning in that direction, I feel like there are too many things out of my control right now. If I chose BMX I can avoid many years of worry and the potential of developing something worse. But, on the flip side I am alone, I work full time, I have two 10 year olds that are going through tremendous upheaval in their little lives. I guess I'm not in a good place to make a decision right now. But, again, so fortunate to have the luxury of time.
I'm not sure what to do about Mr. Tamoxifen on the counter, I'm terrified of the SEs and of becoming more haggard and depressed than I already am. My whole self feels stressed and exhausted from the separation and the anxiety over doing the right things for me and my family. I need to try to get back on track with my life and get out of this state of paralysis. It's hard to believe that he left in Sept, the breast thing started in October and here it is February...I've been a zombie for months. I am hoping to snap out of this and get into a better place so that I can move on and find the secure woman I once was.
Wow, it feels so good to get all of that out! I'm sorry if it's too much rambling and too much information. But, this is where I am at...what an update!
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MamaShells - you definitley have a full plate right now, be good to yourself and thankfully there is no rush to make descisions at this time. I can only imagine how you must be feeling, I'm glad you "vented" and let some of what you are going through out. Feel free anytime to let it out, you are in a challenging place right now, we are here for you.
I also wanted to mention that the chief of plastics at MGH is my guy! I am actually going to see him tomorrow, I'm finishing up my fills from nipple-sparing BMX, the results are looking good, I imgine if you go forth you might have the same BS I had, as I was recommended to her for her specialty in NSM's.
Well, take one day at a time and know you aren't alone...wishing you only the best,
~megan
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Megan,
Thanks so much for your note. I ended up deleting my post, I vented and then deleted. Oh what a ride this is!
I'm so glad that you are happy with your results so far. When I make my decision, may I contact you with questions about the surgery? I am so thankful for this site and for the supportive women on this board. It has been such a lifeline during a time when I have felt very alone.
I hope that all goes well tomorrow with your appt!
~Shells
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Thanks for checking in mssippiqueen, I'm doing OK. My MGH appt went very well, they didn't find anything worse and were very encouraging. The oncologist wanted me to start Tamoxifen right away; I also talked about an antidepressant and went on Celexa that won't interfere with its effectiveness. I'm giving myself a month to adjust to that before starting the Tamoxifen. I'm still not 100% sure that I'll take it. If I have surgery then I don't need to, right?
The Oncologist thinks that I should wait on a decision about surgery given my current life situation, she says I have time and that if I decide not to have surgery I'm at less of a risk with the Tamoxifen and being seen every 3 months for alternating MRI's and mammograms. I'm still leaning toward having surgery at some point and eliminating the every 3mos appts and the drugs if I can. She wants me to take 6 months to think about it, have follow ups, take Tamoxifen and build up myself emotionally. She said she would get me in to see the chief of plastics at MGH who is doing great things with reconstructive surgery and has had success with nipple sparing surgeries; my overall health and age make me a good candidate.
So, I'm going to take her advice and work on moving forward. I have a great job and two wonderful 10yr olds to take care of; I can't believe that I have lost so many months consumed with worry over this and sadness about my separation. I need to get into some better eating and exercise habits because that will help too. But, right now I'm trying to get back into day to day life and get off the couchI've missed my old secure self and I know she's still in there!
Thanks again for all of the support, it is such a blessing to know that I'm not all alone even when I'm all alone if that makes sense.
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Mamashells,
Been there, done that! Feel free to PM me with questions.
Firedancer - GOOD ON YOU GIRL!!
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Dear MamaShells,
The really good thing about LCIS is you have the gift of time.
You can get over the discomfort (understatement) of having a potential invasive cancer at some point and consult the pros to decide what course of action fits you best.
Thankfully we have choices and we can keep our breast if we chose and the antihormal and increased vigilance help in prevention and early detection. Of course a mastectomy and the removal of dealing with watching, to a super great extent, works for some.
It seems like you have a great onc who's thoughtful and considerate. She will be the best one to address your question regarding Tamox. What was recommend for me may be different than your advice. We're all so different and how we integrate our facts and feelings are what makes our choices our own.
As for general health, great ideas! Show those sweet 10 y/o how to rally and charge. Getting out and having fun exercising and having a sensible diet can be mood altering and be a bonding experience for the whole family.
The extreme great good fortune of early diagnoses can not be overstated.
Big Hugs
msippiqueen
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