Nervous Wreck

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  • IllinoisNancy
    IllinoisNancy Member Posts: 722
    edited December 2010

    I'm getting Taxotere after AC and they said I will need neulasta with that too.  I am going to ask for stronger pain pills or neuprogen instead of neulasta.  I can't take this much longer.  I can't even sit still....it is crazy.  Thanks for your comforting suggestions. 

    Love,

    Nancy

  • mymountain
    mymountain Member Posts: 184
    edited December 2010

    Nancy,

    I frequently stop in to see how you are doing and wanted to send you continued hope, strength and encouragement. I didn't have chemo but have  a friend who also said claritin was a life saver.  Hope you can enjoy your family and the holiday season without pain

  • IllinoisNancy
    IllinoisNancy Member Posts: 722
    edited December 2010

    Hubby just brought me some Claritin. Think it is starting to help.  Knees still hurt but not as bad.  Thanks for the suggestion!!  Could not get through this without all of you!!

    Love,

    Nancy

  • suzieq60
    suzieq60 Member Posts: 6,059
    edited August 2013

    Nancy: I had bad leg pain from Taxotere and was given Claratin and Digesic pain tablets. The combination of the two worked really well.

    Sue

  • IllinoisNancy
    IllinoisNancy Member Posts: 722
    edited December 2010

    My doctor called and told me to take up to 12 Vicodin or he would write a script for Morphine.  I really just want to feel normal and I think more pain killers will knock me for a loop.  How do you know when to quit taking Neulasta.  My WPC has been 11, 12 and 13 as of late.  I think that is more than enough....don't you?

  • suzieq60
    suzieq60 Member Posts: 6,059
    edited December 2010

    Nancy: We don't get that over here. I got through all the chemo without it. It's really expensive so I think they avoid giving it to us unless our counts get really bad. Hope you're ok.

    Sue

  • Gitane
    Gitane Member Posts: 1,885
    edited December 2010

    My onc's policy was to give the Neulasta if it dropped below 11.  I don't know if that is standard or necessary, but that's what happened.

  • DiDel
    DiDel Member Posts: 1,329
    edited December 2010

    I never got the Neulasta shots either. My onc said if my counts went below 5 which they never did. I also increased my protein intake to keep my counts up. My onc was impressed that I never needed it but I heard how bad the bone pain was and did everything I could to avoid it.

    I drank lots of whey protein and protein shakes and shots...lots of legumes chicken and fish.

    Good luck I hope you find relief from the pain soon.

    Diane

  • IllinoisNancy
    IllinoisNancy Member Posts: 722
    edited December 2010

    Hi,

    I hope all of you are enjoying your holiday season.  I can't wait until it's over.  I have never felt so sad to have Christmas three days away.  I feel depressed and tired.  The pitty party is just in full swing.  Well...I got that off my chest so now I will sign off.  I truly hope you are all having good days. 

    Love and ((((hugs))))),

    Nancy

  • MaureenA
    MaureenA Member Posts: 39
    edited December 2010

    Gosh Nancy so sorry you're having a difficult time of it...although not at all surprising when you're feeling poorly and have had so very much to deal with in the last few months.  I have kept up with your posts and have been truly awed by your courage and grace when facing what so many of us fear, a second round with this beast. Sending gentle cyber hugs your way and hoping for many days of feeling well so you are able to enjoy the holidays with your family. Maureen

  • Gitane
    Gitane Member Posts: 1,885
    edited August 2013

    Ditto what Sherri said.  I had 5 out of 6 AC done before Christmas 2005, my emotions were all over the place, so sad.  The drugs do us in.  Just keep telling yourself it's temporary.  I wish this wasn't messing up your special time like it is.  Warm hugs.  G.  

  • IllinoisNancy
    IllinoisNancy Member Posts: 722
    edited December 2010

    Thanks for your kind comments.   The thing that is driving me crazy is that I feel great when the doctors leave me alone.  I never have any symptoms or pain until they inflict it.  I can't understand how this stupid disease lays dormant.  I want to be myself and enjoy daily activities.  I've read that people die from unrelated causes and they find cancer in their bodies that caused no trouble at all.  Are we overtreating ourselves?  Do the doctors need cancer to pay the bills? I hate being negative but I have so many questions.  If I had not gone to the breast surgeon at the Koman Center, I would not have any idea that I have cancer back.  I, along with my OBGYN, Oncologist assistant and Radiation Oncologist all  thought it was just scar tissue and a tiny rash.  OK....done ranting...really appreciate you all listening to me.  I can't talk about this with my family without them getting irritated.  They believe treatments are the answer...I'm not so sure:(

  • IllinoisNancy
    IllinoisNancy Member Posts: 722
    edited December 2010

    I just had the most wonderful surprise happen...the local High School choir just sang Christmas carols to me on my front porch.  They were OUTSTANDING!!!  It really lifted my spirits.  Thank you one and all!

  • Gitane
    Gitane Member Posts: 1,885
    edited December 2010

    What a beautiful surprise, just when you needed it!  I would have loved to hear it.  I can imagine how good it felt to have that happen.

    If you feel that the treatments may be the wrong ones, or are not needed, you could still have your slides read elsewhere and get other opinions.  It's O.K. to do that, even if you are already in treatment. Overtreatment is something we should look out for, but you also want to do what is necessary to keep this from coming back. 

    I was so scared, because mine was so advanced, that I wanted them to do every treatment there was.  I know my family really didn't understand what I was going through. Our families want us to "get better" and believe the doctors will make that happen.  It's hard to be honest and upfront with them about our own perceptions and questions about the whole process. They're scared, too, but they are not in the middle of the storm.  

    We do understand.  Don't feel bad about ranting.  I wouldn't even call that a mini rant.

    Hugs, G. 

  • IllinoisNancy
    IllinoisNancy Member Posts: 722
    edited December 2010

    Hi,

    I just showed my hubby that I'm breaking out in a rash all over my stomach and back and it really itches.  Any idea what is going on and how to stop it?  Thanks again!

  • Gitane
    Gitane Member Posts: 1,885
    edited August 2013

    No idea, Nancy, but call the onc.  If this is an allergic reaction to treatment there may be something they could give you to stop that itch.  Do you have their 24/7 hotline number? Another alternative is to call the ER or a pharmacy.  I don't know what would work best since there is no way of knowing if this is an allergy or something more serious.  When we're in active treatment it is best not to try to diagnose ourselves.  What a bummer, dealing with this now.  I hope you can get help, FAST.  Hugs, G.

  • kira1234
    kira1234 Member Posts: 3,091
    edited December 2010

    Nancy, I agree with Gitane call the Dr. It sound like an allergic reaction to the chemo. I think many of us have felt like you, we felt tine before the BC was found. We really do understand. I hope you can relax and enjoy Christmas. My thoughts are with you.

  • toomuch
    toomuch Member Posts: 901
    edited December 2010

    Nancy,

    I hope that you called the doctor and were able to get your rash and itching under control. I think that it's normal during treatment when you're not feeling well to think about whether the treatment is worth it or even necessary. I agree with Gitane that it's not too late to get a second opinion. Although they may recommend something different, they may agree with your current treatment and make you feel better about the path you're traveling. I think that our family members tend to question less then we as the patients do. That's why it's great to have this Board to come to express how we're feeling!

    I'm glad that you had some joy last night! Even if you stay the course your on, the end is in sight. You only have 1 more AC and you said your tumors are visably shrinking so you know it's working!

    I hope that you find peace and comfort this holiday season. 

  • wallycat
    wallycat Member Posts: 3,227
    edited December 2010

    I hope all is well with you and Happy Holidays.



    I just sent my onco a study on lung cancer and those who respond with a rash from chemo had a much better prognosis.

    Not sure it is of much comfort when you are miserable, but thought I'd share.



    Best to you!

  • IllinoisNancy
    IllinoisNancy Member Posts: 722
    edited December 2010

    Hi,

    Thank you for the suggestions!  I showed my son last night and he handed me a cortisone creme he got from his dermatologist and since it was Christmas Eve......I tried it without consulting with my doctor.  The good news is it stopped the itching on contact and today it looks much better.  It has not spread anymore and the ones that remain are not nearly as red either.  I will talk to the oncologist on Wednesday if it remains this way.  If it gets worse, I will call the hot line.  I hope you all having a wonderful Christmas.  I was lucky to have my husband, son, DDIL, daughter, DD boyfriend, Mom and brother with me. The photo is from my sons wedding that was in July.  The dark haired one is my dauther and the blonde is my daughter-in-love.   I hope you are all surrounded by family too.

    Merry Christmas,

    Nancy

  • suzieq60
    suzieq60 Member Posts: 6,059
    edited December 2010

    Nancy - the rash might be a reaction to the steroids. The cortisone cream certainly won't hurt but still show your onc.

    Hope you had a happy Christmas in spite of being in treatment - brings back memories of last year for me.

    Sue

  • Gitane
    Gitane Member Posts: 1,885
    edited December 2010

    Glad the rash is under control and that you and your family are having a good time.    Thanks for letting us know.  Lots of hugs, G.

  • momand2kids
    momand2kids Member Posts: 1,508
    edited December 2010

    Nancy

    I am so sorry you are having such a tough time--and made worse by it being the time of year when we expect to be cheery.  I did want to respond to your point about over-treatment.  I actually agree with you-- I do think there is overtreatment--I am pretty sure I was over treated, but I went willingly.  

    My onc once told me that there is the greatest possibility you were cured by the lumpectomy surgery, and the rest is insurance.  I was willing to take all the insurance---no matter what because I had young children

    While I don't regret that, some days the hormonal therapy feels like just a little overkill for me--but since they never know who will or won't recur, I guess I am just stuck

    But, you make a good point--I think there is a lot overtreatment because they simply do not know.  That said, I am glad to have been treated---- and I really hope this gets better for you soon.   And that 2011 is YOUR year!!! 

  • IllinoisNancy
    IllinoisNancy Member Posts: 722
    edited December 2010

    Hi Friends,

    I just had my 4th AC treatment today and I feel pretty good.  I'm dreading tomorrow when i get my Neulasta shot but my Oncologist is switching me from Vicodin to another pain killer which is stronger so I'm hoping for good results. I start the taxotere in two weeks.  I have read that it effects people very differently.  Some hate it and some have few problems.  I was hoping that the doctor would be happy with the results of the AC and skip the Tax and we could move on to the surgery stage.  No such luck.  I asked about my rash that covers head to toe and they said it was normal.  I'm supposed to use Benedryl and cortisone creme when necessary.  They also told me not to use any scented soaps or lotions.  No more bath and body:(  They suggested Keri lotion so I will need to hunt for some tomorrow.  I hope all of you are doing well and wish you all a very Happy New Year.

    Love,

    Nancy

  • Gitane
    Gitane Member Posts: 1,885
    edited December 2010

    I'm sorry the rash has spread, yet encouraged to hear you have a diagnosis and it's being treated.  Since you have to give up your scented stuff you'll just have to figure out some very creative ways to indulge yourself.  Soft pillows, relaxing music, flickering candles, maybe a foot massage.  Let's hope your new pain relief strategy works and the Neulasta shot is not so bad.  I never had Taxotere, but have read it can be much easier than AC for many people.  We will be thinking of you, Nancy.  Happy New Year.  G.

  • kira1234
    kira1234 Member Posts: 3,091
    edited January 2011

    Nancy, Just letting you know I'm thinking about you. Hope the SE's this round are minimal.

  • momand2kids
    momand2kids Member Posts: 1,508
    edited January 2011

    Nancy,

    hope it went better this time.  I highly recommend the Keri oil--- it really soothes your body in the tub.  I make my kids use it in the winter to keep away dry skin.  My mom made us use it as kids as well.  One caveat, it can make the tub surface slippery so be careful getting in and getting out.  I find that rinsing out the tub after I use it helps. CVS usually carries it--they have some generic brands-- I looked for it last week and could only find the CVS version.  Used it twice, felt great!!!

    Let us know how you are doing

  • AnacortesGirl
    AnacortesGirl Member Posts: 1,758
    edited January 2011

    I'm happy to hear the AC is over!  Your moving right along and making it through these tough times.  You know that the first 4-5 Taxotere treatments shouldn't be back because it will take a while for it to build up in your system.  Hopefully the SEs will be minimal!

  • IllinoisNancy
    IllinoisNancy Member Posts: 722
    edited January 2011

    Hi,

    I've been feeling really crappy since last Friday.  I can't take these Neulasta/AC combo's.  I just feel aweful all the time. I haven't even slept more than a half hour at a time since Friday.  I see my BS on Thursday and my onc next Wednesday.  I just don't think I can do this anymore.  I have never felt so defeated:(

  • toomuch
    toomuch Member Posts: 901
    edited January 2011

    Nancy,

    The good news is that you will never have to do the AC/Neulasta combination again. I also felt really lousy after my 4th AC. It took me 12 days to recover. I know how defeated you feel. I just kept thinking these few lousy months will be worth it if lots of healthy years follow. Everything always seems worse when we're exhausted from no sleep. If you don't have Ambien on hand for days like these, talk to you doctor about getting a prescription. I don't think that I could have made it through the first few months without it! Hoping that your worst days are behind you.

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