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Hi all.  I haven't visited here very often in recent months, as I've been back to work as a first grade teacher after taking last year off.  I've had 2 lumpectomies, a mastectomy, 6 mos of chemo, 2 mos of rads, stage 1 and stage 2 DIEP.  All of this since april 09 diag. of stage2b grade 3 IDC, 2 of 17 lymph nodes pos.

I was told at initial sit down with my onc that I had a 1 in 4 chance of not making it past the 5 year mark.  Elizabeth Edwards had same initial diag. and she's dead 6 years later.  I'm so deeply tired every day after work that after I clean up dinner I fall asleep.  I'm 52, not 82.  I guess I'm just scared. 

Do I only have 4 more years?  I know there are women on this site that would love to be 2b, so to you, please don't be offended.  I'm just tired and unable to shake the feeling of waiting for the other shoe to drop.

Thanks for listening.  As you all know, no one else REALLY understands.

Janice

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  • everyminute
    everyminute Member Posts: 1,805
    edited December 2010

    The short answer is that no one really knows how long anyone really has -right?  Prior to being diagnosed I never thought in terms of "years left" and I don't know many "healthy" people that do however, people die in car accidents and sudden heart attacks every day, unfortunately.

    I thought I wouldnt live through treatment and yet in the 2 and a half years since I was diagnosed, I have been to 3 funerals of all young "healthy" people

    It is hard to get out of the mind set of thinking this way - but here is how I look at it

    I live evrey day with intent and love and cram as much in as possible.  No regrets when I go to be each night.  If I live 5 years - they will be jam packed and I will have done things I probably wouldnt have done without cancer diagnosis.  If I live 40 years - it will be a life well lived

    That being said - I wake at about 3am every day and freak out just a little and then let it go.

  • Shrek4
    Shrek4 Member Posts: 1,822
    edited December 2010

    Janice, here I am too, a 2b. I never thought that I have "1 in 4 chances". True, my BC was grade 2 not 3 like yours, but then I had more types of BC than you did. Right now, I do not feel that I have any type of condition. Really. I might not be right in my mind, but the only thing I need to cope with is the after-effects of the chemo and of the reconstruction. I get pissed at my PS for recommending the LD flap when I really didn't need it. I get pissed at the BS for wanting to do an ALND when I KNEW I didn't have any more lymph nodes affected. Isn't that crazy?

    And all I do, right now, is to try and get back where I left off. Takes a while, but it's doable. I feel like there aren't enough hours in the day for me to do all I want to. I also have days when I am very fatigued - I am luckier than you though because my dear BF doesn't want me to get back to work yet so I don't have to deal with going to work every day -  but in those days, I just say "oh well, I guess it's relaxation day" and I go ahead and spend my day laying down, reading, or playing a computer game or plainly napping on and off the whole day. I my life I didn't have a lot of time for myself, and for really relaxing - so I'm taking the opportunity now. There is still so much to live and love in life, and I am not doing all this with the idea that I might only have 4 years to live - not at all. I am just enjoying my life.

    And that onc of yours, he should have stressed too that you also have 3 in 4 chances to make it to the 5 years mark. The glass is half full all the time, all it takes is for us to be able to see that.

  • Paula1231
    Paula1231 Member Posts: 456
    edited December 2010

    Janice,

    No one knows when they will die.  We with breast ca just have an increased awareness of death.  I am IIa and sometimes get terrified too.  It is easy to let the statistics dictate our fate and control our emotions, but I am choosing to look at the glass as half full.  Live your life to the fullest.  Treasure the good moments and the bad moments.  Every moment you are here you are alive.  I think about being alive and try to live in the moment and in today.  If the good lord says I need to leave this earth, I will be in good company in heaven too.

  • squidwitch42
    squidwitch42 Member Posts: 2,228
    edited December 2010

    Janice,

    For me, it's the fatigue that puts me in a different mindset. I hit the wall hard the other day (not literally :) and just had to lay down and be helped by my co-workers. When I have energy, I am more optimistic and can forget for awhile. You have been through a lot of treatment and surgeries...and I too have had the full treatment, and am waiting for the next round of reconstruction.  I do go to see a therapist once a week, which is so very helpful in dealing with all of this. Some days I am closer to the fear, and this usually coincides with fatigue. It's o.k. to acknowledge your real fears, and at the same time try to balance it out with some of the stories of survival WAY beyond our "stats." If you could even go to a support group once a month (I did that weekly too before I started back to more hours,) you may have another safe place to share your feelings, as well as working through the fear. You are not alone, and some days it is all about one day at a time :)

    traci

  • Letlet
    Letlet Member Posts: 1,053
    edited December 2010

    jteach, my oncologist never told me that. I am IIB too w/6 pos nodes. She has not given me any statistics and I have not asked. She has actually been very encouraging and wonderful. I'm not really sure why she would tell you that.

    With that being said. I too was hit hard upon knowing that Elizabeth Edwards was initially a stage 2. That was a bad night for me as I am still in the middle of chemo. I remember thinking I only have 4 years with my kids, my wonderful husband.  I had to take an Ambien that night.

    Well now what I think about is how I will spend this spring and summer. Make up the time with my kids....take them to Central Park, the Bronx Zoo ...the museum. If I have any free space on my credit card, I will tow them to Disney world. Before my diagnosis, I worried about our bills and money problems all the time. Now I have bigger fish to fry. Money is money...another day with my family is like that mastercard commercial -priceless.

  • cathmg
    cathmg Member Posts: 278
    edited December 2010

    Hi Janice,

    Just wanted to let you know you are not alone in your thoughts and fears. I was diagnosed stage 2, and sometimes it seems to get SCARIER as time goes by. I feel every twinge, ache, pain, and headache, and think, "what is that?" I embrace the moment and enjoy my life, but fear is a constant companion..

    wishing you health and peace,

    Cat

  • jteach
    jteach Member Posts: 199
    edited December 2010

    Thankyou everyone for your thoughtful replies.  I'm embarrassed that I even posted. 

    Of course I try to make every day worthwhile...I'm very aware now of the legacy I leave behind.  I want my children to rememmber a loving beutiful soul.  Same for my husband, same for the kiddos that I teach, whether it be for the next 4 years or the next 40.

    But I think that's my problem.  Are others thinking about theit years remaining?

    I love life, my family my job.  Why do I panic that it will all go away every time I forget something, or have back pain, etc?

     I know you all get it.  I'm done venting.  Thanks for giving me a place to do that.

    I'm fine now.WinkHave a lovely day everyone.  (((HUGS)))   Janice

  • Suzybelle
    Suzybelle Member Posts: 920
    edited December 2010

    Hi, Janice:

    I understand where you're coming from...especially the tired part.  I was diagnosed in Jan. of this year, had a bmx, then wound up with lymphedema in April.  I think one reason I had such a hard time with bc and with the fear part is the LE is constantly there to remind me of it.  It's not something I can ignore because of the compression garments, treatment, pain, etc.  So, to be honest, I have had a hard time dealing with it.  I did like Day and questioned decisions I had made...I was angry.  I grieved for what I've lost...and then I just went into a depression, to be honest.

    I went to a therapist for several months and I'm not sure whether actually going and talking to someone (and she was awesome - her mom had died of bc) or getting to the point where I could be honest enough to talk to someone was the key, but whatever it was, it worked.

    I have spent so much of this year being scared, being angry, being sad...and I think that's normal given what has happened to me...but I'm done now.  I have a lot of living to do.  I don't know whether I have 2 years, 20 years, or what, but I'm not going to waste it by living in fear, or looking back, or being sad anymore. 

    I have had the best time the past month or so just enjoying the holidays and living in the moment.  I have some health stuff going on...and it's so easy to think,"What if it's back?" and I guess that's normal once you've had cancer.

    I hope you find some peace and joy...you deserve it.  We all do!

    God bless,

    Suzanne

  • hbcrdreams
    hbcrdreams Member Posts: 12
    edited August 2013

    Hi there, I totally relate to you. My diagnosis is very similar Stage 2b.  I seemed to be great during the first year...and now I feel like im changing. You are normal and actaIlly you made me feel better that Im normal too...because now hitting my 2 year remission, I seem to think about it a lot. The Elizabeth Edwards thing bothered me so much since my cancer was almost EXACT as hers.  But even without that, every ache/pain, I get so scared its back.  Ive been too the dr.s for these pains,and gotten scans,ect. (how thankful I am for my priv.med.plan and that its in America) that I can get these but Im starting to feel like a hypochondriac which I do NOT want to be!! But lately, I feel like my thoughts are much more gloomy as too dying early.  It now seems like the first year, was a breeze, - maybe I was just thrilled to be done with all the treatments, ect. but now I feel scared quite a bit of the time. It bothers me that I feel this.  I totally understand how you feel. You are not alone.  Its tough. I thought about going to a support group as I dont like to mention these feelings to family members/friends as to not be seen as a whiner, or, to scare them. It can feel very lonely.  I also sometimes have to stop myself from doing things impulsively....life changing things,,,,  because I KNOW Im feeling like I may not be around so I think I may just be trying to maybe squeeze more excitement into my life incase I die early. I know I must sound like a nut. I swear Im not and usually keep this stuff to myself. Luckily Im blessed to be a disciplined person so lucky I haven't done anything STUPID ;) 

  • kindone
    kindone Member Posts: 523
    edited December 2010

    Hi, Ladies, I feel the same way.  I was dx three years last month and I an stage 3.  The longer I out the more scared I am bc time is going by,  So I fear the shoe going to drop soon.  You know what I mean?  I try to be positive and I do have faith but....Also I am now taking Fermera and I think its going a number I me.  I hurt all the time and tired.  I have tried Aromison and it wasn't any better.  When I took tamoxifen I felt fine.  So I guess I don't have time on my side. I 'don't mean to be a downer, its just how I feel.

  • mamaof3bugs
    mamaof3bugs Member Posts: 198
    edited December 2010

    Being a stage 2a triple negative I can completely relate to how you feel.  The daytime seems to be okay for me but once nighttime comes...the kids and hubby are all in bed, the house is quiet and I start to get scared.  I was diagnosed almost a year ago and like everyone else said it seems to be getting worse.  The whole, my _________ hurts, could the cancer be back? is the vein of my existence.  I have always been a glass half full kind of gal but this BC has made me doubt myself.  My NY resolution is simply this...to live each day without regret, if I can do that I figure my life will be full no matter how long I live.  xoxo, Angi

    PS I heart this board!  I always know I can come here and find someone that knows EXACTLY how I feel.  Thank you BCO and all the amazing ladies here!!!

  • hbcrdreams
    hbcrdreams Member Posts: 12
    edited December 2010

    Hi Angie and Betty, I totally agree with you! I thank god for this board. I can write wacky feelings I have and fears and feel like Im normal.  I read both of your posts and I too totally understand. Its such a journey. Literally day by day. Im on Effexor XR and that has helped me tremendously but I still worry....and sometimes a lot and often. Like you said, a pain lingers somewhere and Im convinced its back. Its a crappy way to live. Another hard thing is I am extremely CLOSE to my sister and if I feel like I can't mention I even have a headache or something minor because she too gets really scared :(  Breaks my heart that it affects her like this too. She doesn't deserve this fear.  I love her so much.  We are a year apart. Anyway, sooo great to have this venting board from women who know totally what Im feeling and feel it too.  Lets all hope 2011 is great for all of us!

  • CanItBeTrueNH
    CanItBeTrueNH Member Posts: 86
    edited December 2010

    Ladies, thank you all for your post.   You all said what I have been thinking and feeling.   I wish you all a very happy 2011!  God bless.

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