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hmmm I eat wasa crackers with it. I have used that cut up turkey ham with it. Any way you eat it is good, there is so much flavor you feel like you actually ate fatty food.
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mmm...cornbread..warm with a slab of butter...mmm..did i say that?
found a whole grain cous cous at whole foods in their bulk section, high fiber and tasty with a little olive oil. i served pork chops cooked in apple juice with it...big grean salad and i did it..a lowfat lots of fiber meal...somehow i am going to learn how to live on this diet and not feel deprived.
laura -
Laura,
What is milk thistle and where do you get it? Is it pill or liquid.
--Theresa -
I'm just sitting here thinking that someone could probably make a fortune if they came up with a healthy frozen pizza..
whole wheat dough, loads of tomato sauce, no cheese, ok light cheese, olive oil so it will be drippy, and loaded down with veggies.
Hmmm, what kind of veggies? Mushrooms, onions, baby spinach, slivers of bell peppers, maybe some slivers of bok choy. I may even throw some pieces of pineapple on top and make it a Hawaiian pizza. I may have to look for some whole wheat dough for tonight's dinner. -
theresa - milk thistle is found in the homeopathic department and is in droplet form, you add to water and drink it.
sloanket talk on milk thistle
univ of maryland talk
wholeearth md
"hundreds of medical studies have substantiated the fact that the herb does indeed protect and heal the liver"
i have a nutritionist survivor friend who recommended it to me. we live in the wine country and liver health is important..:)
rosemary - here is a pizza recipe i found that i am going to try as soon as i can figure out the crust...
Vegalicious Pizza
3/4 cup pizza sauce
1 large pizza shell
1 cup chopped broccoli
1 cup shredded carrots
1/2 cup sliced red or green bell pepper
5 to 6 ounces, shredded, lowfat mozzarella
i am heading out to the store later for chili fixins, thanks for the recipe cowgirl.
not until i have that big bowl of oatmeal with walnuts, candied ginger, dried cranberries, ground flax seed and banana..as much as i love those little colored marshmallows in lucky charms,i can pass on those.
phew, not burning to many of my fat points there...
read thru the webcast last night, it inspired me again.
trying not to feel like a red-headed stepchild being triple negative...
laura -
theresa - just thinking...as milk thistle is antioxidant, you need to talk to onc before using with chemo...
laura -
Laura,
Thanks for the heads up. I wouldn't have known that!
--Theresa -
You know olives are a "good" fat that would be great on a pizza. I would like some goat cheese on my pizza!
I love that recipe, a good glass of wine would go good with it too!
Yumm it all sounds good I just wish we could serve it up to Theresa for dinner! -
Theresa,
You may not be able to do the milk thistle but you may still be able to eat your beets:
http://www.drbob4health.com/HealthyLivingTips/Beets.htm
Ask your Doc see if he's for it. -
I made 'beet cake' this summer. I did a zucuhnni (sp?) receipe and substituted grated raw beets for the squash. I had some candied ginger in with it also. It was tasty.
I also like them quartered and baked. They're fun with blue or goats cheese. -
okay, boboli does the 12in. whole wheat crust...
slather on the sauce, open the bottle of wine, pour a glass of cooking wine
start chopping the mushrooms, onions, baby spinach, slivers of bell peppers, slivers of bok choy, carrots, broccholi.
saute veggies lightly in olive oil and add to crust. top the pizza with pinches of goat cheese and chopped olives and bake.
that really does sound yummy...definitely could fit into the plan.
beets make wonderful soup.beet cake sounds yummy with the ginger, that reminds me i have a pile of zucchini to make some bread.got my chili fixings for this weekend but
i am going to have baked yam, whole wheat cous cous and green salad 2 nite. besides the venti gingerbread soy latte at buckies, i have been very very good today.
but i can not get that french dip at arby's off my mind.
i am going to have one on my free day sunday. i have to make sunday my free day because i can't pass on the doughnuts at church, they have the best doughnuts there. -
I'll have to get some of these beet recipes from you guys. My first reaction is "uuuggghhh", but I think that's left over from my childhood. In fact, I'm not sure I ever ate beets, so I'm not sure where the reaction came from.
Oh, and why do I want to eat beets? Do they help the liver?
--Theresa -
I got lucky with finding the bread dough for the pizza. I have a natural bread making company in my town. No preservatives. Imagine whole grain wheat pizza. I'll bet they sell these healthy pizza's all over California.
And I won't forget the olives. Thanks -
Laura!
You have been very good!
Theresa I have the same reaction, I can remember looking at those beets on my plate as so big!
Rosemary! I have nothing in this town except kolaches and those are not low fat!
Rose I need some of your healthy zuch bread recipes, my middle kid is growing up veggies at school non stop!
Off to feed the animals then me! -
r - don't forget the cooking wine..
man, you could go broke trying to stay organic and low fat...
yes, i am lucky here in northern california, healthful eating is very easy to find...
i spend a lot of time in so cal with my boyfriend and will move down there full-time when my son graduates from high school in june, (yah!) and it is not as easy down there...
wow, looking at the nutritional value of beets and i don't think i have seen anything else with as much folate and magnesium...
theresa - nothing wrong with getting antioxidants from food during chemo just no supplements...or at least, that is what my onc said.
speaking of natural supplements, anybody doing the wheat grass thing?
laura -
Zucchini Bread - courtsy of the Wichita Junior League
3 cups Whole wheat flour
2 cups white sugar (aka poison)
2 tsp cinnamon
1 tsp nutmeg
1 tsp cloves
1 tsp salt
1 tsp baking powder
1 tsp baking soda
3 tsp vanilla extract
1 cup oil
3 eggs
3 cups shredded zucchini
Makes 2 loaf pans - you can half it for less.
Preheat to 350.
Combine all ingredients and pour into pans. Bake 1 to 1 1/4 hours. Cool for 10 minutes.
For the non-low fat crowd - ice with cream cheese frosting! Then you've got something Starbucks charges $1.95 a slice for!
I substituted shredded beets for zucchini and put in chopped ginger. I like the candied ginger from Williams-Sonoma but usually you can get it lots of places.
Laura - I'm with you on the get your nutrients in your diet rather than supplements anytime. It helps you hit the fiber goal as well. I don't really care for Wheat grass. -
Laura,
I do barley grass and beets everyday. Both are powdered from the juice. I like the barley because of the natural vit. K, and beets are for everything. I just don't like to cook them. I'll remember the wine. I forgot, am I cooking with it or drinking it, both I imagine. -
Rose,
We are not fans of zucchini. I can try substituting beets, but could I also substitute squash or something else here?
I feel so behind the curve. I wasn't much of a fan of healthy eating before the mets kicked in. So much lost time.
--Theresa -
You can substitute anything you can shred up.
I wouldn't try anything too wet like pumpkin, it might throw the chemistry off.
In weak moments I've been known to buy the store-brand spice cake mix and just stir the zuchunni/whatever into that. That's because I'm a lazy so-and-so who doesn't like to get all the measuring cups dirty. -
Hey that last recipe sounds easy enough for me and my schedule! Rose do you think I can use splenda instead of white poison?
Theresa,
Most americans eat unhealthy, you are in the majority! Just do what you can now!
laura,
wheat grass??? uhhh I am on this thread because I am so unhealthy most of the time! I am in the majority, trying to get back the minority! I was more healthy before dx, but this has made me struggle with the reality of healthy food. So what is it and what do you do with it? What does it do for you? Bare in mind I am 35-55 miles from any health food store, so I have to do all this research at home. The last time I took my kids to the health food store they swore they wear exposed to pot! I kept telling them it was herbs, but they are funny.
I do take Omega 3, I love it! I think it makes me happier and healthier overall, but I don't know about it and chemo. -
i enjoy a shot of wheat grass juice at jamba juice, whole foods from time to time, particularly if i am traveling and don't know if i am going to get the greens in that day...i recently got some powder and have been doing a shot in the am because i really don't like to eat til about 10 and want to get some fuel in my body before that...
a shot of wheat grass/barley grass is like a big serving of leafy greens without the work...
when i say shot i mean like a tequila shot not like a flu shot.
i love the omega 3 supp too!
one of the interesting things i got from the er/pr- live cast the other night was that they did not seem worried about overdoing soy by getting it from foods like tofu or soy milk...i swear eating a couple servings of soy a day keeps the hot flashes away...
weakness for today and yesterday: sour dough french bread...going be delicious with the "cowgirl chili" i got cookin' this am...
i have never been a big healthy eater until after chemo...
the only thing i ate thru ac was a wonderbread, turkey, mayo, potato chip sandwich twice a day...
but i really felt as a triple negative i should get into it.
i love it...i feel really good...all the fiber is awesome...
as long as i get my one day a week to have anything i want i don't feel deprived...
did a funny thing this morning, i was in the shower with no conditioner for my inch and a half of hair and starting thinking...if olive oil is good for you inside why not outside?
so after the shower slathered the olive oil into the scalp, didn't stop there, put it on my dry face too.
all this with no cooking wine...heehaw!
have a great saturday! save me a piece of zuch bread,
laura -
Okay if I ever find a grass bar or juice bar I will try a shot and cheer you Laura!
Soy, now there is an interesting food. I drank a lot of soy before BC, I am lactose intolerant. My BS said the BSs can not agree on whether it should be avoided or consumed! I am headed for genetic counseling in December. I am hopeful that will answer some questions for me!
Black Cohosh will definately help the flashes and my GYNO said it had no estrogen, but most of the time I have no flashes.
I tried to get my mom to use olive oil when she was on tamox, if it is good enough for the egyptians and Jesus it should still work!
I have a Tuscan Bean Soup recipe I will dig up for you too! It is filled with garlic, beans and chicken stock.
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Well I made my pizza yesterday. It turns out the bread dough was too tasty. That's all I could taste, it overpowered the entire pizza. It was a good idea at the time. The sell other types so I'll keep testing it. Honey nut oat bran pizza, that should be sweet.
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I personally view Nutrasweet (aspartame) and splenda as white poison! I don't like the side effects at all!
I'd rather find a less refined sugar than use either of those.
My mom, whose recently been diagnosed as a type 2 diabetic, did find two sugar substitutes that seem to be safe. I forget their names. Do you want me to ask?
--Theresa -
Honey nut oat bran wow, that sounds good!
Nutrasweet I do not like, but so far splenda has been okay for me. Yeah ask her Theresa!
And I just read on that conference you can't take black cohosh with tamoxifen, which means many here can't take it. The more I read that conference though the more confused I was! I think I need to be a little more clear from surgery fog to understand all the scenarios, no wonder we as BC patients are confused. -
Aspertame is on my 'No' list. I'd rather eat the real poison and try and ramp the quantity down. You have to be careful because sometimes the sugar promotes browning so if you cut it back too much it won't come out right.
I've heard that about Black Cohosh. I take vitamin E for tamoxifen hot flashes. I don't want to know if it's bad for me or not. I take it and try hard to believe it's helping.
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I e-mailed my mom. I'll let you know when I find out.
I also went grocery shopping today. Bought more fiber and less fat. It won't be perfect this week, but I'm getting back on the wagon. Adjusting I guess.
--Theresa -
good to hear you loaded up on fiber and left the fat at the store..theresa... when you get your head around your latest news, you are going to need to be feeling good and feeling strong to kick that beast butt out of the park...I have read nowhere that naseau is a xeloda side effect, so you can eat good while you are on chemo...
i hope this is the case...
i had the french dip today and toasted you!
i am just really thinking that any beast spots on your bones and liver just have to go away now! come on xeloda, work your magic!
anyway, the french dip was good and so was the calamari fritto and the mojito...:) and now a whole week till i can eat a meal like that...
for dinner tonight everything on my plate is going to be green and orange and red and blue...okay the ranch dressing is a splurge...
that pizza crust issue is big...i like a real thin crust, with olive oil, dusted with cornmeal.it is almost crispy.
i am going to go to the restaurant where they serve it and see if i can figure it out...it is almost like a mediterranean flatbread...
cowgirl, that chili was fantastic, my son and his friend feeders raved about it...used a really yummy turkey sausage...thanks for sharing...
enjoy every minute, eating or not!
laura -
I must have missed my veggies. I found baby asparagus at the store today and had that for dinner, along with corn. I didn't feel like the chicken at home, but also had grapes, strawberries and pineapple. It tasted good, left me feeling full, but not bloated.
Also started wondering how low-fat my Mother's Thanksgiving dinner will be. Hmmmm ....
--Theresa -
We are having a thin crust whole wheat pizza!
Thanks for asking your Mom Theresa! It will get easier to eat better, it just takes practice.
Rose have you tried Omega 3? I love it!
Laura, thanks it is a good tasting recipe. Even my picky eaters eat it!
I thought I would post two more of my favorite soups. I am a soup eater especially in fall and winter.
Veggie Potatoe Soup
8 c. Chicken broth
1 small or med cabbage shredded
2 lbs potatoes diced or cubed
1 c. chopped onion
1 c. chopped celery
1 c. chopped carrots
3 tbsp. of butter buds or I use a 1 tbsp of olive oil
1/2 light velvetta cheese cubed(this is optional and really not needed).
Cook the Holy trinity(onion, celery and carrots) in olive oil until soft. Add everything else but the cheese. Cook on low heat for 1 1/2 hours or until the potatoes are tender. Then if you chose add the cheese. I puree it, it makes it takes like a good rich creamy potatoe soup. It is 2 pts for 1 cup serving and it makes 14 Cups.
I eat this up, I know it is not low carb but very good comfort food.
Tarascan Soup
1 tbsp olive oil
1 c chopped onion
4 large garlic cloves minced
1 28 oz can diced tomatoes, undrained
2 16 oz cans pinto beans, undrained
2 tsp chili powder(always adjust chili to personal taste)
1 tsp cumin
1/2 tsp hot sauce (I use four to five drops)
1/4 tsp salt
2 c. FF low sodium chicken broth
You saute onion and garlic in olive oil until tender. Stir in tomatoes and cook for 5 minutes.
Puree beans in food processor(although this is optional too). So add the rest and cook about 18 minutes while stirring. It makes 8 1 cup servings. 2 pt a cup for WWs.
This soup is creamy too, it tastes fattening but isn't.
Enjoy, I do love to cook!
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