Getting tired of the arguments on this board!!!!

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  • worldwatcher
    worldwatcher Member Posts: 205
    edited December 2010

    I thought I posted saying I was sorry about your losing your kitty...guess it disappeared.  So sad to lose one so soon.

    I though that was a Scottish Fold, but couldn't tell for sure in that small picture.

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  • marie5890
    marie5890 Member Posts: 3,594
    edited December 2010

    Worldwatcher...I have a cat that looks just like that!! (not sure how to post a pic) ((ok she is my avatar right now....She is the middle of 3 cats I have...Her name is Rhythm but I call her Tux; the other two are Blues and Harmony.))

    Traci--I am sorry for the loss of your kitty Frown 

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  • msmpatty
    msmpatty Member Posts: 818
    edited December 2010

    This is what I love about BCO:  A thread started to talk about arguments evolves into talking about kittens. Isn't it great?

    Patty

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  • BarbaraA
    BarbaraA Member Posts: 7,378
    edited December 2010

    Here is a pic of my baby. Lucy.

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  • squidwitch42
    squidwitch42 Member Posts: 2,228
    edited December 2010

    Wow, look at her eyes, isn't she beautiful? and there are some other pretty looking cats too :)

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  • worldwatcher
    worldwatcher Member Posts: 205
    edited December 2010

    Marie

    Tux could be a triplet to our two, right Traci?..love that name group..Rhythm, Blues and Harmony...Marie your Lucy is such a beautiful color. Patty, Squid,  I believe that cats and dogs were created to bring humans together. Laughing

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  • Kitchenwitch
    Kitchenwitch Member Posts: 374
    edited December 2010
    BarbaraA - I have to just jump in and say, Wow. That's one of the most beautiful cats I've ever seen!
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  • candie1971
    candie1971 Member Posts: 4,820
    edited December 2010

    I started to read the posts here and then after about 4 or 5 went immediately to the end. I love it here. I have been here since 2006 and I have NEVER come accross an argument of any kind and I know girls who have been tossed by the moderators...and yet I missed why...lol.

    Thank you to all my sisters for always being at my side. I love you all! I am so very happy I have never seen anything bad on here.

    hugs and prayers

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  • marie5890
    marie5890 Member Posts: 3,594
    edited December 2010

    Lucy is saying "Pet pet me belly!!!""

    I Love it!!

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  • mumito
    mumito Member Posts: 4,562
    edited December 2010

    I think we should be able to express how we feel and  what choices we have made in our treatments and why.Without others being insulted.I happen to feel that women who choose lumpectomys over Mx's are at higher risk of reaccurance or Mets.Thats just my opinion its not meant to hurt or insult anyones feelings.(love the Kittys)

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  • otter
    otter Member Posts: 6,099
    edited December 2010

    To paraphrase Daniel Patrick Moynihan:  "Everyone is entitled to her own opinion, but not her own facts."

    otter

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  • flash
    flash Member Posts: 1,685
    edited December 2010

    Is Lucy a bengal? She's beautiful.

    mumayan- understand that is your position but the statistics really depend on more than just one aspect as to who is higher for recurrence.  For a single localalized tumor, lump WITH rads is equivalent to mast for recurrence rate.  For all other tumors and situations it begins to be all over the map as to the best tx. That's why we can't second guess the doctors and can't be critical of what anyone decides. There are just two many variables.

    I really do believe that everyone should be able to have their own opinions. you're right.

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  • Pompeed
    Pompeed Member Posts: 239
    edited December 2010

    CoolBreeze wrote:

    "Actually, it is your opinion.  Scientific fact would state "there MAY be serious and permanent side effects for the treatment of cancer."  

    Scientific speculation: "there may be serious and permanent side effects" but the individual in which those will occur is factually unknown. 

    Scientific fact: in every cancer treatment used in a clinical trial, a certain portion of the trial population is going to experience intolerable side effects which are sufficiently serious as to drop the patient from the study.  That number and the number of patients who experienced side effects but were able to continue and finish the study despite them are part of the statistical analysis of risk versus benefit and conclusions.

    Whether any of the study patients will fall into either category or fall into neither one and have no side effects and who those people will be before the study begins is unknown.  But it's already understood before a study starts that some portion of the population is going to have side effects and some of those side effects will be so severe that the patients must drop out of the study.  This scenario is very, very common regardless of whether the study is one for cancer treatments or some other therapeutic investigation.

    Not my opinion.  Fact.  Supported by the papers detailing millions of scienfic clinical trials.  And if the scientific papers on the topic of side effects aren't sufficiently real, read the notes from women undergoing therapy for cancer on this site.  Their side effects are facts to them.

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  • GointoCarolina
    GointoCarolina Member Posts: 753
    edited December 2010

    Oh, the kitty pictures are wonderful! Is there a place on this board for animal lovers?I would love a place where we could talk about our pets and post photos of them,for me, that would be a real day brightener.

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  • mollynminnie
    mollynminnie Member Posts: 86
    edited December 2010
    I love how my original post turned into a discussion about cats!  I have two kittens adopted from the Humane Society a few months ago.  I will post pics once I am able.   Smile
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  • Tundra
    Tundra Member Posts: 136
    edited December 2010

    Hello there wonderful women,

     As an undiagnosed newbie, I find in interesting to read different opinions on treatment, or anything.

    It seems to me that many health issues have factions of opinions in terms of treatment.

    Sadly arguments seem to be the norm on discussion boards. At least people on here have decent grammar and spelling! ;-)

    But anyway.... I'm very happy, either way, to have found BCO, it's already been such a comforting resource for me.

     That and.... yes... more CATS please! ;-)

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  • Nico1012
    Nico1012 Member Posts: 1,492
    edited December 2010

    "You are entitled to your opinon of course.  We all have them.  But don't disguise it as fact.  The person who gets to spout facts on this board is Otter - she's the only one who does it right.  :) "

    AMEN SISTAH!!!

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  • Lowrider54
    Lowrider54 Member Posts: 2,721
    edited December 2010

    So...se's or cancer - all sorts of things can counter the se's - I'll take the se's.

    I am pouting :-(...all you guys have kittys...my fur-child is a doggie - a beautiful tri color Sheltie who just had a wonderful time romping in the snow this weekend in the Blizzard of 2010 in Minnesnowta!  He may be almost 10 but he darn sure still acts like a puppy!  Sunday afternoon, he was a pretty pooped puppy - right along with his mommy - 3 hours of digging out (with help) was a bit tiring.  I go very slow - and push the snow around more than shovel - and of course, breaks for snow angels and playing with the doggie and talking to the neighbors, and...well, lots of distractions from the task at hand so it wasn't 3 hours of constant digging...

    And I cannot get a darn picture to post in here to save my life!  GRRRRR.

    Very snowy hugs....LowRider

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  • 1Athena1
    1Athena1 Member Posts: 6,696
    edited December 2010

    Lowrider - what browser do you use? I can't get links or pictures to post when I use Google Chrome, but when I use Internet Explorer, all goes well. You also know that you have to click on the little tree icon in the BCO dialogue box, right?

    How a dweeb me me feels she can give anyone Windows advice is beyond me. :-)

    Hugs...

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  • BarbaraA
    BarbaraA Member Posts: 7,378
    edited December 2010

    Yes, Lucy is a Bengal. And she knows she's beautiful.

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  • riley702
    riley702 Member Posts: 1,600
    edited December 2010

    Lucy IS gorgeous. My kitty Imp lays like that a lot, too. Flat on his back with his tail acting like a rudder to help him keep his balance. Prior to him (and his late sister), I'd never had a cat do that and I've had cats all my life.

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  • squidwitch42
    squidwitch42 Member Posts: 2,228
    edited December 2010

    worldwatcher,

    Yes, animals are Divinely ordained (IMHO.) The pic of your kiddo is so cute...like a little mini puffercat (related to the pufferfish, except in cat form:)  Or is your baby storing nuts for winter?

    Traci

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  • Mazy1959
    Mazy1959 Member Posts: 1,431
    edited December 2010

    Many of us BCO ladies have cats. I have a flamepoint siamese and a buff/white tabby. Also have a spoiled rotten toy poodle. LOL

    Lowrider I cant get pix on here either.

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  • suzieq60
    suzieq60 Member Posts: 6,059
    edited December 2010

    I have a British Blue called Poppy - quite gorgeous. We used to have a cat called Lucy for 17 years!!

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  • worldwatcher
    worldwatcher Member Posts: 205
    edited December 2010

    Time to get the Christmas spirit...Smile  I need to start my shopping today.

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  • worldwatcher
    worldwatcher Member Posts: 205
    edited December 2010

    Jack Tripper the Amazing Eyeless Kitty

    Excerpt from article:

    He has absolutely no eyes at all. Because of that, his eyelids are too long since they have nothing to cover. His eye holes tend to get weepy because that irritates them a little. As he's growing, he's started to grow into his eyelids and may have no issues there at all. But if they're still irritating him, our vet may consider sewing his eyes shut. Other than that, he's perfectly healthy.

    Jack is truly an inspiration. I've owned a lot of kittens in my life, but Jack is the happiest, most playful of them all. He doesn't feel sorry for himself. Heck, for all he knows, all cats are just like him. People who know Jack don't feel sorry for him. They cherish him for the treasure that he is. I have talked to a few people who haven't met him personally who tend to pity him, but they just don't understand. Jack doesn't need pity. I think Jean (who has Gumbo the eyeless ginger) said it best when she told me that cats don't have disabilities, they have adaptabilities.

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  • Suzybelle
    Suzybelle Member Posts: 920
    edited December 2010

    Love these kitties in here, but I'm like Lowrider, I don't have one. I only have the most wonderful, horrible dog in the world who is 1/2 goat and 1/2 yorkie.

     I also love me some otter - I always get a charge out of her posts!!!!

    I really enjoyed the story of Jack, the eyeless kitty.  I forget sometimes that people (and cats!) have been having a hard time and have had physical issues/illnesses their whole lives...I'm not that special, you know?

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  • Fighter_34
    Fighter_34 Member Posts: 834
    edited December 2010

    Thanks for pointing this out.

    I hope this place can stay postive for a very SERIOUS issue we are fighting. Cancer is no picnic ladies! Most of us have families and little ones we are fighting for, and STRESS is not what we need.

    Being HEALTHY is what we want and what we need!

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  • Fighter_34
    Fighter_34 Member Posts: 834
    edited December 2010

    The Kitty Cats are so adorable ladies!

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  • Traci-----TripNeg
    Traci-----TripNeg Member Posts: 2,298
    edited December 2010

    Otter, you are so cool.

    Panda, there's a thread called 'Awe isn't that cute' (or something like that...can't remember :-/) that is about 100 pages of the cutest animal pics!!!

    (((((hugs)))))

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