Chemo starting in December 2010

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  • sammolisa
    sammolisa Member Posts: 180
    edited December 2010

    One more thing Leigh,   we are here for you.   Come talk to us whenever you need to 24-7. 

    hugs to all starting this week

  • sammolisa
    sammolisa Member Posts: 180
    edited December 2010

    congrats nolaa!!!  glad you made it thru!

  • LisaPants209
    LisaPants209 Member Posts: 11
    edited December 2010

    Congratulations! My last chemo was July 11, 2009, and I can honestly tell you it's all a blur! I had chemo on a Fri, then drove down the shore for the weekend with my family for a large beach portrait. Of course by Sunday I could barely get out of bed for the drive home, but it's all worth it to be here today. Stay strong of spirit. You will get through this!

  • toni30
    toni30 Member Posts: 252
    edited December 2010
    Sammolisa: Remember that if you lose your hair, then you will probably lose the hair in your nose, which causes side effects like runny noses, and may contribute to your bloody nose.  I had chemo this summer (ACx4 and Tx4, DD) - and I dabbed petroleum jelly in my nostils,which helped me.  Ladies - chemo is a drag, but make sure you take all of the pain meds they give you. And ask for sleeping pills, if you can't sleep.  Whatever gets you through the night.  Toni
  • hopefortomorrow
    hopefortomorrow Member Posts: 193
    edited December 2010

    Nolaa- I am glad you made it through! I hope it continues to go well for you. Get that tumor! Get that cancer!

  • Sugar77
    Sugar77 Member Posts: 2,138
    edited August 2013

    Hi Ladies - just wanted to pop in to say I was in your shoes last year.  Today is the one year anniversary of the day I started chemo.  Hard to believe it's been a whole year as I remember the day so vividly as though it was yesterday.  I lost my hair and it was very hard at the time (I'm a hair person)...got over the hair loss and embraced my wig(s)...then it grew back and I'm now choosing to wear it short. Chemo's no fun but it's doable. Now that I'm on the other side of the fence, I look back and am so glad I did the chemo.  I have no regrets whatsoever. I finished rads end of April 2010 and returned to work on Sept. 7th.  For the most part, life has somewhat gotten back to normal. Hang in there and I wish you all the best for your holiday chemo treatments with minimal side effects.

  • lovetosail
    lovetosail Member Posts: 544
    edited December 2010

    Hey Ladies,

    I was part of Sugar77's chemo class - I just had my LAST Herceptin today and my port comes out on Friday.  This time last year I was so full of anxiety and dread as I started chemo.  While it was no picnic, it was totally doable and I can't believe how quickly the year went by.  I was lucky to have minimal SE's from chemo, no complications at all from surgery/recon, no rads, and I worked through it all.  Life is now back to normal, for the most part.

    Yeah and the hair part sucks, but already I have a good 3+ inches and I think I'm going to keep it short!

    Best of luck to all of you - hang in there - you CAN do this!

    Sue

  • msjag
    msjag Member Posts: 416
    edited December 2010

    thanks everyone, so nice to know there is light at the end of this sleepless tunnell...which brings me to needing HELP!!!  Side effects  for me were manageable except., no sleep (2 or 3 hours total) in a day, day six, and I could be going to work, but I'm afraid to get behind the wheel, called onc two days ago, they didn't want to sedate me, said to give it a day to two, no luck with that, this am  doc going to call in ativan.  she said take one pill, if it doesn't work take two tonight.  ANyone have ativan? any suggestions?  one or two?  I also have diverticulosos, so if you don't get rest, that lovely colon starts spasms...lovely!!!!  Any help would be appreciated.  Today I think reality hit, that I have to continue with these treatments.  If only one could do the trick.   Hoping things are going well for everyone.   My second treatment will be without a port again, 12/23/  and onc suggested only taking steriods night before infusion, and iv during the infustion, but none after that. what do you all think?  don't the steriods keep  from having reactions to the T/C? 

  • LisaPants209
    LisaPants209 Member Posts: 11
    edited December 2010

    I had a script for Ativan, but it's more of an anti-anxiety. My docs gave me Ambien for sleep, and it worked, and I don't sleep normally, pre-chemo. I would continue with the steroids, you don't want to be sick. There are a lot of options out there, maybe switch to a different one. Good luck! It will be over before you know it!!

  • sammolisa
    sammolisa Member Posts: 180
    edited December 2010

    I had a script for Ambien and it didnt' work - 2 hours at a time was all I was getting.   Now I have Ativan and really..... it's not that much better.  I take one pill before bed and I am up in 4 hours anyway.  Although I am able to get back to sleep fairly quickly. 

    Got my blood work today to see how I am doing - wish me luck!

  • nolaa
    nolaa Member Posts: 76
    edited December 2010

    Ativan worked for me!!  

    After my super start yesterday I started feeling nauseous so I took the first med which helped a little, then I took the second med an hour later, then started throwing up, an hour later I took the third med and threw up some more.  Finally, once I felt like it was all out, I called the onco doc to see if should take any of the meds again since probably threw up the last 2.  She said to re-take the 3rd one (Ativan) and after that I finally slept realy well.  I do feel Crazy dizzy today though (normal SE of the anti-nausea).   

    I'm still in bed.  So let's see what rears its head once I'm up and have some food in my stomach. 

  • sammolisa
    sammolisa Member Posts: 180
    edited December 2010

    oh nolaa!  I'm sorry to hear you threw up.  :(   First thing in the morning I have toast now and that seems to make the day go better.  Oh!  and animal crackers were my friend those first few days of bad nausea.

    Back from the doc today - blood levels are good for round two -  white count was at 4.1,  (normal range is 4.6-10.9) -- hemoglobin and platelets look great too.  Tho I lost 9 lbs this week.  He said not to worry it's fine, the body is under alot of stress and even tho I don't feel it  my metabolism is way up and using more than I am giving it.  9lbs!  I'm just so surprised - it feels weird to have lost that much in 1 week without even trying - i eat ice cream almost everynight!

  • msjag
    msjag Member Posts: 416
    edited December 2010

    I guess I will give the ativan a whirl, its all I have for tonight!! Great news about your wbc, Samm, I also have lost weight, 10 lbs as of today, tomorrow is a week.  I'm trying to eat high protien, fiber, low sugar, my poor body is probably in shock!!!  I haven't craved any sweets, just saltines, applesauce, bagels and peanut butter, are my staples these days, and oatmeal.  tomrorrow is my blood test day, hope its good and I don't need the shot...don't know if I should take claritin tonight just in case!!! Too many decisions for the sleep deprived!!

     I can't wait to take those ativan and sleep!!!!!

    Hope evryone is coping well. 

    JoAnn

  • lindaa
    lindaa Member Posts: 119
    edited December 2010

    1st day after DDAC - so far so good.  They gave me ativan for anxiety/sleep.  I slept almost 9 hours.  Got up once to pee.  It was a long day - we left @7am and didn't get home until around 7pm so I was wiped out anyway.  I took one steroid and an Amend this morning.  neulasta shot coming soon, and I did take a Claritin.  No appetite which I don't mind because I need to lose anyway.  This dose of steriods is half of my old dose so hopefully it won't send me intoa  roid raging, carb loving monster.  I have roid in infusion, then 1 pill for next 2 days.  I have not taken a nasuea pill yet - 'as needed' and i havn't needed it yet.

  • spartina
    spartina Member Posts: 68
    edited December 2010

    Spartina here - third day from my 1st round of E and C.  Got the Neulasta shot yesterday.   I've been up and done with the usual suspects aches, headaches, flu-like symptoms that appear suddenly, stay for some hours and alight as quickly as they appeared.  Today my husband George made some morning coffee and it tasted so good.  Within minutes I was nauseous and ran for my last dose of Emmend.  Spent the next hour horizontal trying to keep that dose down!

     Here's an odd symptom today--walking around my legs felt like they weighed a ton.  I felt like an elephant plodding along. No swelling. Pant weren't tighter.  

    Some hours I feel as healthy as a horse and then I'm down on my knees.  I keep a keen focus on that these drugs are attacking and killing cancer cells and that is what I need to do to continue the sweetness of life.  

     I am grateful for all you sweet people here sharing.  Thanks much and take care. 

  • nolaa
    nolaa Member Posts: 76
    edited December 2010

    Feeling so much better today.  Saw the onc doc this am before my Neulast shot (they do it only one day later here) and she mentioned that people often prefer pain to nausea.  I think I'm with her on that one.  I'm actually wondering if it was my post-chemo lunch that did me in instead of the actual chemo drugs.  Anyway, Atavin worked and she said to go there first before zofran or compazine. Just one doc opinion.  She also said to take garlic capsules for a few days before the next chemo treatment.  

    After getting the Neulasta shot today the nurse did say that claritin might help although they didn't tell me to take it in advance.  I'm sure it would work fine either way.  I'm not feeling it yet though.

    I'm still very wobbly and off-balance.  As much I want to nap I'm afraid to since I was vomitous after napping yesterday.  Maybe I'll try sleeping upright.   

    I went amd got my hair cut with one of my friends today.  Pixie short.  I was a baby last time it was this short.  I actually kind of like it in a I-know-this-is-temporary kind of way.   

    Hang in there everyone. 

  • LisaMomOfFour
    LisaMomOfFour Member Posts: 465
    edited December 2010

    I'm a new poster on this thread... I start chemo on 12/30, just barely making it into this group. 

    I have had my chemo education session.....  my nurses indicated that in addition to emend, that they prescribe anti-nausea meds that I take regardless of how I feel, as their protocol is that heading off the nausea to start with is much easier than trying to control it once it has started.  Is that the same message others are hearing? 

    Also, I have heard about both claritin and aleve as recommended the day before the neulasta shot.... any pros/cons on that one? 

    Just trying to get myself prepared.... seems like a full time job managing this process!

    I'm having my treatments on a Thursday, already cleared it with my boss to work from home on Friday/Monday so I can simply go to bed if I need to.  For those of you who have just had treatment... how practical would it be to try to work on day 2, or even on day 5? 

    Thanks!  Sorry for the barrage of questions!

  • hopefortomorrow
    hopefortomorrow Member Posts: 193
    edited August 2013

    Lisa, I would check on the aleve- I have been told to stay away from it because it lowers the white blood cell count. The nurse told me at the most I could take it twice a week. Maybe your Doc's office will feel differently, but I would check with them.

  • Leslie1962
    Leslie1962 Member Posts: 233
    edited December 2010

    I was part of the December 2009 Holiday Chemo group. Exactly one year ago today I had my first chemo. My last chemo was April 20, 2010 and I am here to say that you will all do just fine. Take your meds, get your rest, eat when you feel good, get the wig or scarf ready and YOU CAN DO IT! I will say that after a lumpectomy, double mastectomy, AC, Taxol, Taxotere and Herceptin, plus rads, the absolute worst part was losing my hair. Just 21 days after my first chemo it was falling out in handfuls. I was devistated but decided to shave it off and be done with it. It is now coming in a nice dark color with lots of gray. It is still short (about 2 inches or so)  and I haven't quite ditched the wig yet, except for when I am home - but I am just about ready to. Good luck everyone.

  • dlcw
    dlcw Member Posts: 107
    edited December 2010

    Hi All - just checking in to see how everyone is doing.  I STILL haven't started yet but have my repeat MRI and echo by the end of this week and then my mandatory chemo counseling appointment Monday and then surgeon right after that....so hopefully I'll get started next week.  I am sure I'll hear more about this on Monday, but can someone tell me what the steroids are for?  Does everyone get them?  I expect to do DD A/C followed by Taxol - looks like lindaa is on that protocol and is having steroids - so maybe that is standard?  I just wasn't expecting that.  My son has a friend with leukemia and I've seen him on steroids (not sure if it's the same steroid or not) but those are some intense side effects.  I was planning on being here calm and collected every day when my children got home from school to help ease their worries.....maybe not realistic????  When I told them this morning that I wouldn't be going to the office starting next week my son (he's 9) jumped up, gave a couple of fist pumps, and said 'YEAH!!'.  He likes the idea of me being here when he gets home from school instead of just him and his older sister - would hate to have him wish I weren't here if I'm in a grumpy steroid mood! 

    Hope you all have a good night and fewer SE's tomorrow - and I hope to join you all soon in active treatment!

    Donna

  • lovetosail
    lovetosail Member Posts: 544
    edited December 2010

    Hey - those of you suffering from insomnia - and taking Claritin to help with Neulasta bone pain - make sure you don't take Claritin-D - it insomnia is a stated side effect as it has a stimulant in it!

  • lindaa
    lindaa Member Posts: 119
    edited December 2010

    donna, the steroids are only for  2 or 3 days, so you should be ok.  When I was on taxol (my last chemo cycle) thet were to prevent an alergic reaction, about 1/2 way through, since I never had a reaction I was able to stop taking them.  For the A/C the nurse said it is to prevent nasua so I must take them as prescribed.  As someone else posted, the nurse staying ahead of nasua is better than trying to stop it later. 

  • meglove
    meglove Member Posts: 267
    edited August 2013

    Hello Dec sisters, i will start my 1st DDAC tomorrow.  no port.

    For nausea, i got prochlorperazine suppository in case of vomitting has started to use rectally. Had anyone tried that?

    I also got a wig and a wig cap today. Is there any organic cream to put on scalp? Hugs.

  • Lawleigh
    Lawleigh Member Posts: 56
    edited December 2010

    Hey meglove I am with you starting tomorrow and trying to have a nice relaxing eve with my husband.  We went to Costco to stock up as my grandson and son arrive this weekend for a couple of weeks.  My husband stocked up on animal crackers and said between me, Devin and the dogs the animal crackers would be gone quick.  Also bought Claritin.  Even though my Onc hadnt heard of using it, to many of you swear by it so I will be using it on Fri before the nasty neulasta.

    As far as the anti nausea that were prescribed to be used as needed (2 of them) any idea if you take them together or one before the other.  I guess I can take them with me and ask tomorrow as well.  I will start the Emend in the morning before I go in the morning.

    Feeling a bit emotional tonight as it seems like the last night of my "life".  Not a great attitude but I can't describe it any other way.

    I hope everyone is feeling ok....Nolaa I am so sorry you are feeling cruddy, my thooughts are with you.  Samm I am glad that your numbers look good.  Enough with the weight loss though girls.  As much as 10 lbs would be my dream I know they are watching us to make sure we don't drop much.

    I will check in tomorrow and let you know how it goes.\

    Leigh

  • ebann
    ebann Member Posts: 3,026
    edited December 2010

    Had my first round of Abraxane/Avastin & Zometa today. They had to pre medicate me cause of my allergic reactions to chemo. So very tired this evening. Heading to bed.Night ladies!

  • klynnwayman
    klynnwayman Member Posts: 23
    edited December 2010

    So I finally had my mastectomy drains removed tonight, the night before chemo tomorrow. However, the chemo is no longer happening tomorrow. My doc said that he is just too afraid that I will get an infection if I have chemo so soon after taking them out, so I need to wait until next week.

     No biggie- I was just totally mentally prepared and geared up for doing this tomorrow, ya know? Scared- not excited about it, but packed and ready.

     Good luck tomorrow meglove and leigh....I will be thinking of you.

     Kim

  • imatthew
    imatthew Member Posts: 206
    edited December 2010

    just checking in on behalf of my wife, starting 6xTC today and a year of herceptin.  She is completely wired from the steroids she had to take yesterday (Dexamethasone) and was up most of the night.

  • lindaa
    lindaa Member Posts: 119
    edited December 2010

    I take my steroid in the morning with food, not at night.  The steroid and emend are only for the 2 days after chemo, so both in am, about 30 min apart seemed to make sense to me.  My DH left me a note in the morning with both pills and reminder to take them, reminder to eat small, regular meals, and he left 4 bottles of water with the little tabs already popped so I wouldn't have to.  Brought tears to my eyes he is so sweet.  I have a neighbor who is a chemo nurse so she came over last night to give me my shot.  I took a claritin and she did confirm that many ppl do and that some places are now using claritin the day before chemo to help with any reactions. 

     Overall I am just moving slowly and stressing over Christmas.  I have a lot to wrap still and cards to send out.  Every surface in my house seems to have something on it. 

    ebann:  I left you a PM.

  • msjag
    msjag Member Posts: 416
    edited August 2013

    matthew, I can relate, finally slept after six days because of four days on sterioids (with the help of Ativan last night) If she doesn/t sleep for a few days, she may be able to call doc for help with sleeping aid.  My blood test was as low as it could be before the n shot is given and they feel it was due to not resting, so I will be using the ativan nightly.  Hope all goes well for your wife, drinking gallons of water daily helps flush the TC out!!

    Leigh, thinking of you today, hope all went well.

  • sunflower71
    sunflower71 Member Posts: 130
    edited December 2010

    Leigh & Meglove- I am thinking about you both today.

    Kim- I understand the frustration of waiting for it to start. Enjoy the extra week!

    Matthew-Lack of sleep really affected me by day 4.  I finally got Ambien which worked. 

    Linda-Your husband sounds very sweet, that is great that you have such a good support.

    I am doing well, I survived the first week!  I am having a lot of bone/joint pain which I now think is Taxotere related, not neulasta.  Painkillers and a heating pad have been good to me.

    I think that when I am done with all of this I am going to drag my couch outside and light on fire.  After spending so much time on it I can say it is the most uncomfortable piece of furniture I have ever owned and I am kicking myself for buying it.  Damn you Ikea.

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