October 2010 rads
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Okay, I know this will sound weird. But, I am glad to hear people reporting fatigue because I was beginning to think I was going crazy. I am 15 days out from rads and still quite tired. Also very red and peeling. Noticed some small spots that look raw under my arms. May need to call doctor on Monday depending on how things look.
Someone on anothor board told me that her friend who is a few weeks ahead in treatment said one month is about when she felt really well. I re read my rads info and it said fatigue may last one to two months. I am not paralyzed with fatigue but I do sleep alot, and take it easy as much as possible. I always feel like I could take a nap! I am working and accomplishing things around the house. But, I am far from energetic.
Hang in there everyone! (the other) Joan
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DiamondGirl- Sorry, I just don't trust the doctors who are so cavalierly ordering unecessary x-rays, scans etc....(usually more for their liability than our need), exposing all of us to radiation. I am still upset about the PET/CT scan I had before chemo. It exposed me to so much radiation that I had to stay away from pregnant women and children for something like a day. I had so much radiation in my body, it would have been dangerous for them. I also have real concerns that the TSA will not allow an outside party to test how much radiation these machines are exposing us to. Very interesting article. It does point out that if we accumulate a total of 250,000 mrem of radiation, it increases our chances of cancer by 10%. My PET/CT scan was 3,000mrem, not to mention all the other mammos, x-rays and tests I have had. Does anyone know how much radiation we are getting from radiation therapy? I will ask my RO on Monday. The former head of the American Cancer Society (a doctor and BC survivor), says she is declining ANY uncessary x-rays, scans etc.... Here is another good article about how we Americans get more x-rays, scans etc than any other country and the risks:AMERICANS GET MOST RADIATION FROM MEDICAL SCANS
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/06/14/radiation-health-american_n_611035.html
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Diamondgirl--hope the Topicort works for you--I've heard it's good stuff. I'm bummed to hear how the skin issues and fatigue continue, and even get worse after rads is done. The end starts to seem near, then gets farther away--such is life with bc, right? Thanks for the info on the scanner. I know it's minimal, but I still think I'd prefer the pat down. Might have to have it anyway if I travel while I still have a prosthesis. I probably won't fly anywhere anyway, haven't in years.
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Yes,I'd definitely want to know how much exposure we are getting from our radiation treatment!!
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Good morning all,
I will be flying to Toronto in a couple of months, and will most likely go for the scanner due to the sensitivity to the scar (I can't even touch myself, so forget about enhanced pat down, I will scream bloody murder), and also I did not do recon after the partial mast and no prosthetic either. It is a huge stress factor for me aside from possible LE.
So I'm also seeing that some ladies are feeling fatigue "after" the rads are done? Oh-no ! Sorry to hear that. Having a raw burnt skin is bad enough, I hope I will be spared from the fatigue.
Good luck to all
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Hi Diamondgirl. Sorry you're having such a hard time with your skin. The topicort will help. I used the benadryl lotion. Forutnately, I went to treatment early in the the morning, so I was able to apply the benadryl throughout the day and night. Just had to shower before treatment. It will get better, I promise! I'm also one of the fatigue sufferers...arghh. I'm two weeks out, and it still comes in waves, but not as bad or as often.
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Good evening all,
Thanks Linda
I just want to let you all know that I have finished my 33 rad treatments today!!! Yay, so happy that I don't need to deal with that facility any longer. In fact, there were student techs yesterday and today and I told them that I do not want any student techs during my treatment. One of the technician had that snide look on her face and I abruptly turned around and caught her. LOL. The other female tech said "Oh, you don't have to work with student techs", I replied "I know, and I don't want to anymore!". I tried to be nice before and it didn't work, and since those episodes with them I became a tough cookie. Sad but true.
My skin is covered with rash and tiny blisters (do not pop the blisters) and ask for steroid cream like Topicort. It worked right away and dried up the rash and took care of the itch. Nipple is crusty and I applied a thick layer of Miaderm. The whole breast is pink. I will report back in a couple of days if there's any improvement.
Good luck to you all and thank you so much for your support, it was rough for me but you ladies helped me tremendously, I will never forget
Feel free to PM me anytime you like.
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CONGRATS Diamond girl!! You must be so relieved to be DONE!
The skin in my clavicle area is pretty fried, so we are going to do the 5 boosts now and do the last 4 or 5 regular tx after the boosts. That will give that area time to heal. The rest of my chest/armpit area is very pink, but holding up pretty well.
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Tina ~ good luck with the boosts, they are very easy and quick too
The rest of the ladies, you are close to the finish line. Good luck!
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Just had to pop in and see how everyone is doing. Manyof us reaching the finish line. So great to be done before the end of the year. I am almost 3 weeks past end of radiation now. Skin has stopped peeling and I am just a little pink along my collar bone so I am starting to feel like I am DONE. Started on my little Femara pill a week ago and sort of waiting to see how that part of this journey goes. Always something! Good luck to everyone finishing up!
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Rana...I finished rads on the 26th..in Vancouver....the system went down provincially...for a day....I too did not see the doctor the last two weeks of treatment...I now don't see them until the 14th.. which is better than your timing....I think the system is overwhelmed....I had 25 treatments...and the underside is so sore and burnt....a question...I am going to Mexico on the 6th...for a week....may be a stupid question...but would it be okay to go in the ocean...I know a pool and hot tub would not be good...but with salt water...what do you think...I am being very careful...using flamazine...glaxol base and emu oil....I am okay with not going in the water..just looking forward to some down time...enjoying something else other than the C word in my face!!
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Just a question. Anyone feeling worse now that radiation is done. I finished last wed. Skin really started breaking down ab 2 days later-using 2 diff gel pads to try to calm it down. In past, I did saline compresses right after rads, then aloe and aquaphor, but didn't do the saline after the last treatment-everyone was home for the holiday. Am also feeling exhausted-more than when being radiated-so was wondering if this is what many are experiencing. RO told me not to worry-expected. I thought energy would pop back after rads. Thanks
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CT124 ... My skin also continued to break down for a few days after I finished. Doctor had warned me that would happen. I think that I was pretty fortunate though as it never really got as bad as I think many others have experienced. I kept using the Aquaphor for at least two weeks after I finished and have just recently been just using a regular Aveeno lotion that I like.
Faitgue... I never really experienced much at all until the end. Then I crashed for a couple hours nearly every day. I have not taken a nap the past few days so hoping that I have overcome that issue. However, I am now on Femara and I guess that can cause sleeplessness.... so maybe it is counteracting the radiation fatigue. This is just so fun trying to figure out SE's. Hang in there... it does get better quickly.
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Joan, thanks. I guess I had hoped skin would hold up since didnt have any breakdown prior. And thought I would gradually feel better after rads stopped, but you are right-just figuring out what SE s will come along.
Deb
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Kelly ~ I would be very careful about the sun. My rad onc told me at my very first appointment that I needed to wear clothing to protect the skin all the way near collar bone. Are you able to call your rad onc and ask whether it'll be ok?
Deb ~ I was really zonked this morning and had to climb back to bed. Yesterday was my last day and I had back-to-back doctor appointment and did grocery after. The boost area is now bright pink and the rest of the breast is still pink with the rash dried up. The skin is definitely tight. My platelet count dropped 40 pts from before the radiation so that maybe a reason for the tiredness.
Has anyone compared blood test results (before and after rads)?
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Diamond Girl... my onc didn't feel I needed any blood work done when I saw him a couple weeks after finishing radiation. My blood results have always been quite good. I did request to have my Vit D level checked again though. I was shocked to find out that I went from 28 prior to radiation and am now at 14. And this even after I was taking about 2000 IUs of D3 all through radiation. Doc is supposed to call me soon and let me know the plan to get that back up. I think that the radiation is responsible for depleting my Vit D.
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Diamond girl-plts and hgb/hct stayed okay-my drop was wbc again. They really dropped w chemo and they tell me that since marrow was really stressed from that, rads just knocked it down again. Their cutoff was 2 and I stayed just above it so I could finish tx. Skin is pink, tight and have some areas that are really pealing and painful but got mepiplex dressings and they are really helping. will have blood work next week again.
Joan-maybe I'll ask for Vit D level-mine was low before. Thanks
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Joan and CT124, where do I see Vit D on the blood report? Has anyone looked at their CA 27.29 (it is the tumor marker), anything less than 40 is good. Mine is now 10 from 13 (before the rads), however, the Segmented Neutrophils has shot up to 79 (high side) and Lymphocytes is 13 (low end). The platelet count which dropped 42 points is disturbing
I think I should start taking the Vit D3 now, and I am also to start my Tamoxifen right away.
The skin is still red and started to peel and painful because it rubbed against my t-shirt and can't wear a bra yet. Underarm is still swollen and has a bit of burning.
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Diamond girl--Is the platelet count still in the normal range? If so, it's nothing to worry about. It always jumps around. If it gets down near 100, then you need to be careful not to cut or bruise yourself.
My "lymph" white blood cells are a little low and onc said that is normal during rads, and nothing to be concerned about. My rads onc said he was not worried at all about my wbc counts dropping and wasn't even going to test them. Everything else looked good, and my hemoglobin is finally getting close to normal.
Your doc has to order the Vit D test for you; most don't do it routinely. I have not had any cancer marker tests done (that I know of). I should ask my onc about that, as I see many others have had it done.
Hope your skin heals up soon!
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DiamondGirl... Your Vit D level does not show on your CBC report. It is a separate test that you need to request from your doc. Be sure to ask it for it.
My ONC uses the CA 15-3 tumor marker test instead of CA27.29. Level with that one needs to below 32 and I scored an 8 six weeks after chemo. He also uses the CEA tumor marker test which I scored very well one also. I am going to request to have those done again in January.
Hope that everyone is enjoying a nice weekend free from rads and recovering from rads. I have just a little bit of pink skin left on my collar bone today... no big deal. I am three weeks past my last rad.
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My RO doubled up my last few boosts (6 hrs apart) to finish on Friday. Yay! But, man am I sore. I'm sloughing a layer of skin under my arm. I'm by myself, so it's a chore to wrap it up so the hydrogel burn pads don't slide off. Once I managed it, I put a stretchy sports bra over it to hold it in place, and I'm just going to see how long that lasts. It snowed a lot Friday, so I won't leave the house till Monday. I don't have to and I'm not going to. Hope everyone else feels better!
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Carolyn ~ Wooohoooo, congrats you are done!!!
As for me, I went to the urgent care this afternoon due to skin rash appearing on my face and ears and left upper arm and it also spread to the stomach from the left breast. The dots looks identical to the ones on my radiated breast. I knew it would be tough for the doctor to diagnose, it could be (1) what I ate on Tuesday night, which was a small bite of Melba toast kind of thing and instantly my lips and tonge was itchy. Wed morning, my right ear started to itch a little and it just grew like wild fire. The right ear was red, hot, itchy and swollen. Then dots was on my cheeks and upper left arm. Then Friday went below my left rib area and appearing on the upper left arm. It is just so weird. (2) it could be a virus, a big maybe b/c my DH is a bit under the weather, and (3) radiation dermatitis. So the doc is leaning on radiation dermatitis. I got rx for the rash and the prednisone to deal with it for several days. Just when I thought I was done and can take a break
Tina, my platelet count is in the low 200s, and ladies thanks for the clarification. I wonder why I have to ask the med onco for tests, shouldn't that be prescribed anyway?
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leeinvegas~ I lost your phone number, please PM me
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Hi Diamond Girl- My first onc had in house blood work so before each chemo or doc visit they would draw a ton of blood and on the following visit my onc would tell me if anything was wrong. She did special order the vit d test. I have had tumor markers tested and unfortunately they have always been either high normal or just high. My highest number has been in the 90s. I will have them retested in January prior to a follow up visit with my new onc. I asked my new onc to order a Vit D test. She wants me to take a month off of my Vit D supplement to see what my numbers are. Unfortunately, I haven't kept copies of all my blood work so now it is in three or four places. On the other hand if I had the info I would probably worry even more!
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Hi Joan (JFV),
My med onc does the same thing, except I have to go to a lab to get the blood work done. I always ask for my copy (not that I wanted to read it and worry over it), but for the fact that I have my own copy and I will fax the same copy to my primary doc. I don't trust the system so I wanted to make sure that they get a copy and I can follow up with the medical records of my primary doc.
Thank you gals for suggesting to ask for Vit D test. I will certainly do that
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Joan
it is encouraging to hear that your skin is improving. Hope I will be reporting this next week. Expander still really tight on that side, but as swelling is going down, this is feeling better.
riley
had skin sloughing also-RO recommended mepilex dsgs-they were wonderful. They are self adhering and in about 3 days- no more weepy skin. What a difference they made. Awful pain went away. I am 2 weeks out and really healing. Hope you are feeling better
Diamond girl
I also do my labs through MO, then take copy of reports to RO. My plts and hgb/hct stayed pretty good. My wbcs were low but stayed above 2 so I was able to complete tx. Hope you are feeling better.
Listening to many of you it sounds as though you have had markers drawn. My MO wanted to wait until 4-6wks after rads. I wish they had been done after chemo loke Joan. Would have like to have seen that all this tx is working.
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I'm DONE! I have been hearing the theme song from "Rocky" ever since I got off the rad table an hour ago.
Colleen
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cmksocal... congrats! Another Rad Grad!
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Congrats cmksocal!!
I have 6 left!
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Congrats CMKsocial.
Good idea Diamondgirl and CT 124 I will call onc #! and get blood work faxed to GP or Onc #2. I really need to sit down and write out all that has happened medically. Yesterday someone asked me when I had chemo and I actually gave the wrong month.
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