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  • impositive
    impositive Member Posts: 629
    edited November 2010

    Barry, The way conventional medicine views DCIS confuses me. I guess I have trained my mind to see it as fungus, the way they have trained their's to see it as cancer.  Maybe you and Julia can help me here. 

    You wrote: "Then I learned that dcis cells do not have the ability to be invasive."

    If DCIS doesn't have the ability to be invasive as they say, then why do they recommend mx's? Why cant we just get lumpectomies and be done? (I'm not questioning your decision Julia, I totally respect it. Just trying to understand why drs recommend it.)  DCIS.info says that some never become cancerous. My Onc told me that as well. I just don't understand the logic.

    "If  dcis is nothing more than fungus than you would think there would be some type of invasiveness?"

    I believe DCIS cells and all cancer cells are fungal cells. DCIS is diagnosed through microscopic examination, right? Sometimes referred to as dysplasia (an abnormality of development). What if they are really viewing a fungal/human hybrid cell? It would look abnormally developed to a pathologist, right? 

    You posted the studies of early researchers such as Rife and others. In those, they said fungi have the ability to morph or change to adapt to their environment. The "environment" in this case is our inner terrain. The reason some DCIS (fungi) turn cancerous (and by cancerous, I mean they change into a more ominous form, if you will) and some may not, could be because the environment is ripe for the fungi to change or adapt.  Medicine recognizes the ability of bacteria to adapt/morph (as in their ability to become resistant to antibiotics) but for some reason they dont recognize fungi and it's abilities.  Anyway, this is why we need to clean up our environment, so that fungi cant survive. If we take away their food (sugar), take in more oxygen, reduce stress and toxins, etc. They will die and leave our bodies through different means or change back to a less ominous form. 

    "I don't think Julia's tumor can be compared to most dcis dx. Most dcis do not appear as a palpable tumor. So in that case...perhaps a biopsy is different? "

    The fungi may be different as in your case and in Julia's case but it's still fungi....If you puncture a tumor where fungi are encased, it bleeds and can allow the fungi to metastasize.  If you puncture a milk duct where the fungi are, it bleeds and can allow those fungi to escape to other areas as well. Again, that is why we can not give them the opportunity to take up residence. We have to provide a terrain that isn't condusive to their survival.

    "Is it possible that other factors (chemicals, smoking, injury) can defect cells to the point that cells deteriorate... "

    The article that you posted on Nov 13 that talked about ergosterol explains this perfectly. Read my post from yesterday (11/26) and click on the link. 

     Here's an excerpt:

    Smoking,for example, causes cancer by causing fungal infections. Tobacco contains fungal residue, spores and fumonisin (a fungal mycotoxin). Drawing air through a tube containing fungal spores and toxins results in fungal infections.

    Injury: Some parasites cause cancer, some don't. Parasites such as larvae that burrow into colon walls, for example, cause injury and infection. Physical injuries that do not heal also cause cancer by allowing infections to persist. Unexplained persistent bleeding, the most common early warning sign of cancer, indicates fumonisin (the fungal mycotoxin-If it's present, then fungus must be) is possibly present.

    Chemicals: Carcinogens are of 3 types: toxins and pollutants that block normal cellular function allowing fungi to thrive; fungi and parasites that cause injury and infection; and conditions that prevent rapid healing.

    You wrote-"If cancer is nothing more than fungus than it seems that stopping the fungus (medication, herbs, diet, lifestyle changes & etc) would erradicate the cancer?  It seems that fungus treatment would help someone at least put their cancerous tumors into remission."

    Yes! If we can accomplish this by sticking to this lifestyle, I believe we can eradicate the cancer (fungus)!!  These people who are in remission then relapse have done nothing to change their lifestyle after chemo so the fungi is allowed to return.

    "If someone has chemo their immune system is compromised then it seems as if it would be difficult for the body to fight candida or fungus infection."

    Yes, that is what I pointed out in an earlier post. Someone who has advanced cancer (fungus) or their immune system destroyed by chemo, may have a more difficult time. The cancer (fungus)may overcome them before they are able to accomplish wellness. It may win the fight and that is the tragedy here. If medicine didn't suppress this knowledge, people would learn what they need to do to prevent getting cancer (fungal infections) in the first place!  Then maybe people wouldn't be surprised with stage 4 infections!  We could erradicate cancer (fungus) simply by changing our lifestyles!

    This is the last 2 paragraphs of the article:

      THERE IS A NON-TOXIC CURE

    Obviously, the cause of cancer has been known for decades. There is a non-toxic cure for cancer and all fungal diseases even though it is not publicly acknowledged. The medical monopoly in health care is the primary cause for the modern era of fungal epidemics. Toxic drugs that destroy immune system function are a major cause.

    Would you like to do something about it, or just become another victim? Why not learn how to eliminate the conditions that allow fungi to thrive in your body?


    YOU CAN TREAT FUNGAL INFECTIONS SIMULTANEOUSLY ON FOUR FRONTS:

    1. detoxify cells and organs of toxic metals and toxic chemical; avoid ingesting more;

    2. eliminate fungi and other parasites; avoid reinfection;

    3. adapt lifestyle habits that maintain a strong immune system;

    4. adapt nutritional habits to maintain all metabolic processes at an oxidative level.

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  • impositive
    impositive Member Posts: 629
    edited November 2010

    Julia

    My thoughts and prayers will be with you Dec 8

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  • seaotter
    seaotter Member Posts: 1,083
    edited November 2010

    Hi all. I have been following this thread closely. It makes a lot of sense to me. In my search for a candida cleanse I came across this: http://www.candidasupport.org/index.html Any thoughts on this? This may be a dumb question but I have been taking a mushroom extract for immune building, could this be bad for the fungal theory? Thanks for any suggestions!

    Patty

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  • impositive
    impositive Member Posts: 629
    edited August 2013

    seaotter, I am open minded when it comes to candida. Have you tried the Threelac? If it works for you, please let us know. They say you should rotate your antifungals so it's always good to have a new option. The only thing that kind of throws up a red flag to me is it kind of looks like a magic cure and doesn't encourage people to be healthy. When products advertise "You dont have to change a thing just take our product and you can be healed" I'm a little skeptical.

    Ok...I'll say it....mushrooms scare me, lol.  They are a fungus!  I really dont understand them. I know there are extracts that people have used for healing but since I dont yet understand it all, I stay away from them. I dont eat them, I dont take their extracts, etc. They may have benefits but there are other ways to get the same benefits so until I understand them better, I stay away.  That's just me though. Who knows, I could be missing out on something.

    And btw, I used to love a good fried mushroom!!!

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  • Hindsfeet
    Hindsfeet Member Posts: 2,456
    edited August 2013

    For those who are interested...anti fungal drugs ...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antifungal_drug

    Diflucan Generic Description : Diflucan is used to treat fungal infections called candidiasis. Diflucan is also prescribed to guard against candidiasis in some people receiving bone marrow transplants, and is used to treat meningitis (brain or spinal cord inflammation) caused by another type of fungus.

    There are a lot more mentioned on this wekipedia site.

    Alternative options are:

    Research conducted in 1996 indicated that the following substances or essential oils had anti-fungal properties:[11]

    Horopito (Pseudowintera colorata) leaf - contains the anti-fungal compound polygodial[12]

    Israeli researchers at Tel Aviv University's Department of Plant Sciences published a study in 2009 indicating that carnivorous plants like the Venus flytrap contain compounds that may be useful in providing a new class of anti-fungal drugs for use in humans, for fungal infections that are resistant to current anti-fungal drugs.[13][14][15]

    This study I believe was done in 1996...I'm sure there are more recent studies and additions to foods in the anti-fungus family.

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  • lionessdoe
    lionessdoe Member Posts: 780
    edited August 2013

    All I know is, too often we overlook the logical in search of something much more complex. I was diagnosed with sytemic yeast about 5 years prior to my diagnosis of breast cancer. Rapidly dividing cells? GEEEEZ ! 2 plus 2 = 4. Let's not forget chemo is an antibiotic! Chemo kills more than it saves and no one is talking about that.

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  • Hindsfeet
    Hindsfeet Member Posts: 2,456
    edited November 2010

    Impositive...since I had high grade dcis and it was multifocal, I am particulary interested in the progression of the fungus cancer. I'm trying to understand how the fungus theory works in breast cancer. You've studied this more than I and have a clearer grasp on the fungus/cancer theory than I do.

    DCIS question...being a hybrid cell? Would you consider high grade 3 a hybrid fungus cell? It does not resemble the normal cell, especially the cells that are como-necrosis. My recurrence did not go through a process of changing from grade 1 to grade 3. Besides the main lesion found by a mammogram the final pathology report noted dcis spotted through out the beast removed. There were no grade 1 or grade 2 dcis cells found. Yet the high grade dcis is non-invasive because the cells for whatever reason did not metamorphosis into cells that know how to push through the duct walls. If DCIS was a fungus wouldn't it eventually change into invasive cells? If dcis is fungus then why does it stay dormat for years? We know that fungus spreads fast and breaks down walls...such as it does in the stomach or colon. Why doesn't it do the same in dcis?

    I'm missing a link in how fungus develops into invasive cancer. It makes sense that cancer is a form of fungus.

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  • Hindsfeet
    Hindsfeet Member Posts: 2,456
    edited November 2010

    This study of fungus/cancer theory is changing how I look at cancer and medicine. I have to make a decison soon to which insurance plan I want. I've chosen BlueCross with the drug plan. Now, I'm strongly considering dropping the drug option. This year, I was given a handful of prescriptions which had horrible side effects and in the end what curred me was taking care of my yeast problem.

    lionessdoe...what made the doctors suspect that you had a sytemic yeast infection? What symptoms did you have? How were you treated?

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  • Hindsfeet
    Hindsfeet Member Posts: 2,456
    edited August 2013

    DeFungaledMeningitis: According to C.C. Kibbler, Cryptococcus is the most common cause of fungal meningitis. Fungal meningitis is defined as the infection by a fungus of the lining, or meninges, of the brain and spinal cord. The most common cause of fungally generated brain abscesses is Candida Albicans. Kibbler also tells us that fungi can enter the brain either from the blood stream, by directly invading from the adjacent sinus cavities, or through a traumatic or surgical wound in the head. He goes on to say that infection is made more likely by exposure to dank environments, rotting vegetable material, or nearby construction, all of which fill the air with infectious conidia (fungal spores)

    mycotoxins has made me more cautious about what he eats. Dr. Holland has read that some mycotoxins can cause swelling of the brain and tremors. These include the patulin toxin found in moldy apples, animal feed and wheat, and the penitrem toxin in moldy cream cheese, hamburger buns and beer. Although the labels on jars of apple sauce say that ascorbic acid, or vitamin C, is added to prevent color changes, Dr Holland has read elsewhere that it is actually added to prevent the growth of mold. That's because vitamin C is antifungal.

    http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=284368897631&topic=12329

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  • impositive
    impositive Member Posts: 629
    edited November 2010

    Barry, I consider any "cancer" cell, DCIS or IDC, low grade, high grade, comodo, non-comodo, breast , lung, colon, etc. to be a fungal infection. The pathology side is still a bit unknown to me. I do know, however, that it is no more of an exact science than anything else. That is why it is sometimes recommended that we get more than one or two opinions. Pathologists dont all see things the same way. My basic understanding is this;

    The pathologists measure the mitotic index of a "cancer" cell. Mitosis is how rapidly cells divide(which is determined by calculating the percentage of cells in a sample that are actively dividing.) A higher index may indicate a faster growing tumor.

    They measure the histological grade which describes how "cancer" cells differ from normal cells. It includes the shape and size of the nucleus as well as the overall size of the cell. Cells with increasing abnormal structures are given a higher grade.

    They also look at the overall organization of the tissue. Normal tissue appears "organized." "Cancerous" tissue appears "disorganized." 

    Now couldn't the "cancer" cells they are seeing be "fungal cells"?  They are measuring their growth rate, how different they look from normal (human) cells and they appear disorganized, not in any particular pattern, like normal (human) cells. To me, the less it looks like a human cell, the more I'm inclined to believe it's a fungal cell.

    "If DCIS was a fungus wouldn't it eventually change into invasive cells?" 

    "If dcis is fungus then why does it stay dormat for years? "

    I guess that would depend on the terrain in which they are living. The DCIS cells could be fungi in a stage that has not yet taken on the invasive characteristics.  Not all fungi cause "cancer", that is, not all fungi affect us the same way. You can be infected with fungi and it may manifest itself in different ways. I believe fungi is responsible for various health problems (Oooh, do I dare open this door?) in which conventional medicine knows no cause and no cure.  Examples would be MS, auto-immune disorders, arthritis, diabetes, etc. These diseases in which they say the body is attacking itself....I dont believe our body attacks itself at all! Our body is attacking an entity unknown to medical science, FUNGUS! 

    "We know that fungus spreads fast and breaks down walls...such as it does in the stomach or colon. Why doesn't it do the same in dcis?"

    I'm not sure fungus does move fast. We've all heard "It probably took years for that lump to develope." Maybe it moves quickly once it's established itself and the terrain becomes more and more welcoming. (i.e. Our immune systems become weaker.)

    "I'm missing a link in how fungus develops into invasive cancer."

     It's just like when we die, the bacteria and fungi within us will morph and do what they are supposed to do; decompose our remains. The weaker our systems become, the more able the fungi are able to change. In a weakened system with little oxygen, maybe these opportunistic organisms say "Hey, it's time for us to do our jobs" and they start the breakdown of our tissues (cancer)!

    Here is something else that doesn't make sense to me; We see headlines now that say, "INFLAMMATION LINKED TO CANCER" . This drives me nuts! Sure inflammation is linked to cancer but what causes the inflammation!?!?!  The following was taken from ScienceDaily.com- "Although there is plenty of evidence that chronic inflammation can promote cancer, the cause of this relationship is not understood," Kaufmann always says, "What makes bread rise" (become inflamed)?  YEAST!  "Do you suppose it could make people "rise" (become inflamed) too?" But the "EXPERTS" say "the cause of this relationship is not understood."  I want to scream YES IT IS!!!  Are there so many trees that the "experts" can't see the forest (or maybe it's too many $$ signs that crowd the view?)  I wish I knew...  

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  • CrunchyPoodleMama
    CrunchyPoodleMama Member Posts: 1,220
    edited November 2010

    If DCIS doesn't have the ability to be invasive as they say, then why do they recommend mx's? Why cant we just get lumpectomies and be done? (I'm not questioning your decision Julia, I totally respect it. Just trying to understand why drs recommend it.)  DCIS.info says that some never become cancerous. My Onc told me that as well. I just don't understand the logic.

    That's been my big question all along too, but the BIG reason I'm going with the mx is that I want to have a baby. My DCIS is very highly ER+. I know of women whose DCIS grew like wildfire during pregnancy and I can't live with the risk of it turning invasive while I'm pregnant.

    Even if I didn't have multifocal DCIS cells still remaining - I've had so much breast tissue removed at this point that my milk ducts are surely a mess. Who knows what ducts have been severed where, and how much scar tissue there is. I would be concerned what the remaining ducts would do when I get pregnant... would some of the ducts start making milk then it would have nowhere to go? or would it drain into my breast somehow? I won't be breastfeeding from my DCIS breast anyway, so I may as well have a clean break and remove all the damaged and remaining ducts so I don't have more to worry about while I'm pregnant.

    If I knew I wasn't ever going to get pregnant, I would be tempted to leave my remaining DCIS alone and treat with diet/lifestyle. It's the pregnancy factor that makes all the difference for me.

    Thank you for the kind thoughts and prayers, btw!

    Barry, GREAT list of anti-fungal foods/substances! Of course, I'm not surprised to see iodine on there... I was just reading about iodine in treatment of candida.

    http://www.iodine4health.com/disease/candida/eby_candida.htm

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  • impositive
    impositive Member Posts: 629
    edited November 2010

    lionesdoe, I totally agree with your first and last sentences. Welcome to the fungal thread:) 

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  • impositive
    impositive Member Posts: 629
    edited November 2010

    Crunchy, I can see you have definitely thought this through. I wish you all the best with your surgery!

    I know I read somewhere that you did more with lifestyle than the doctors were ever able to do as far as getting pregnant? Are you working with anyone as far as that goes? 

    Of course I dont know all the circumstances but I cant help but think that the cancer and the other issues go hand in hand. Maybe some kind of chronic mold exposure....a moldy home, a moldy workplace, etc.  If we are chronically being exposed, we would never be able to rid our systems of it no matter how well we eat, etc....until we eliminate the source.

    Just wish I could help....

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  • CrunchyPoodleMama
    CrunchyPoodleMama Member Posts: 1,220
    edited November 2010

    I know I read somewhere that you did more with lifestyle than the doctors were ever able to do as far as getting pregnant? Are you working with anyone as far as that goes? 

    Yep -- and interestingly (but not surprisingly!), the very same things that combat cancer also happen to be exactly the same things that have helped me conceive in the past (and, I'm convinced, will help me finally conceive a baby that survives) -- and a host of other issues that I've had in the last five years.

    The typical doctor's approach would be to prescribe Clomid and other drugs for my infertility, an antidepressant for the depression I had following my miscarriages, Ambien for my insomnia, Aderall for my ADD, Tamoxifen to kill off my estrogen, etc. etc. All those drugs have side effects, possible harmful interactions and who-knows-what long-term consequences.

    But when I adopted my aggressively anti-cancer diet and lifestyle over a year ago, almost like magic, all those things (depression, ADD, insomnia, etc.) cleared up... and the only "side effects" are feeling great and having a ton of energy! I can also tell I'm *really* fertile too (I won't get into TMI by explaining how I can tell!! LOL) and am SO excited to try for a baby as soon as this mx is behind me!!! Anyway, all that is to say that you're right, cancer and infertility (and many other things) go hand in hand, but in my case I think it was mostly to do with my crappy previous diet (full of chemicals -- Nutrisystem, soy vegan junk food, microwaved dinners, all topped off with multiple liters of Diet Coke per day -- blechhhhh!).

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  • Hindsfeet
    Hindsfeet Member Posts: 2,456
    edited August 2013

    Impositive, thanks for your thoughtful and logical answer.  What you said made sense! I did read just tonight that fungi can remain dormat until the right enviroment forms to grow. So, yes, if the immune system is compromise or weakened, stress, poor diet, or sedentary life style then the enviroment for fungi/cancer cells (oportunistic) then becomes "cancerous".

    A woman that I knew was dx with colon cancer this last Spring and was given 3 months to live. She didn't eat sugars, disciplined person, great diet, active and a positive person. We were all shocked when she died 4 months after her dx. Everyone was stratching their heads to why it happened. When dx she went on a juice diet, and holistic treatment. But...I don't think the family knew about cancer being fungus. I asked...was it H Pylori? Maybe she lived in a mouldy house? Maybe something in the area where she lived caused an alergetic reaction that set the fungi off in her body? Maybe being a perfectionist stressed her out?

    If I learned that I had invasive cancer, I would do everything possible to help my immune system, anti fungal treatment, and anti-yeast diet. The problem is that most people won't even check out the fungal/cancer theory. 

    yes...I also read that fungi is the underlying cause of most diseases...such as lupus, m.s. and a number of other common ailments. I'm learning that yeast is the culpret to many of our ailments and autoimmune diseases! That door is open :)

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  • Hindsfeet
    Hindsfeet Member Posts: 2,456
    edited November 2010

    lol...my first post on page 1 of this thread pretty much answered most of my question. I'm learning so much in such a short period of time that it's difficult to absorb it all. I need to carefully go back and re-read everything on this thread. I posted information that I found interesting to the fungal theory. It has been a fast journey that again is changing how I view disease and medicine.

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  • Hindsfeet
    Hindsfeet Member Posts: 2,456
    edited November 2010

    I have friends who use chia seeds. It's relieved chronic pain, and their overall health improved. I read that it's a natural way to absorb stomach acid. I wonder what effect it would have on candida?
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  • Hindsfeet
    Hindsfeet Member Posts: 2,456
    edited November 2010
    1. Fungal by-products called "mycotoxins" cause cancer. According to the American Cancer Society's website, mycotoxins are "genotoxic carcinogens
      2. 2. According to World Health Organization (WHO) researchers, Penicillin, itself being a mycotoxin, should be scrutinized as a potential contributor to breast cancer. See #7 regarding antibiotics in general.
      3. In 2007, researchers at Johns Hopkins University discovered that the antifungal drug, Sporanox, used to cure toenail fungus, also stopped cancer from metastasizing.
      4. That same year, German researchers discovered that yet another antifungal drug, Griseofulvin, forced cancer cells into death (apoptosis).
      5. A large cancer website notes that alcohol of any kind increases the incidence of breast cancer. Alcohol is the mycotoxin produced by the Saccharomyces species (Brewers Yeast).
      6. In 2007, The American Academy of Microbiology stated, "Fungi are the cause of many outbreaks of disease, but are mostly ignored. Fungi can cause a number of life-threatening diseases...many people, scientists among them, are largely unaware."
      7. The most widely used drug to prevent breast cancer recurrence or metastasis is Tamoxifen. In 2009, the journal, Antimicrobial Agents and Chemotherapy, announced that Tamoxifen was a potent antifungal medication, in addition to its cancer inhibition properties.
      http://www.knowthecause.com/
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  • CrunchyPoodleMama
    CrunchyPoodleMama Member Posts: 1,220
    edited November 2010

    Innnnteresting, Barry!

      5. A large cancer website notes that alcohol of any kind increases the incidence of breast cancer. Alcohol is the mycotoxin produced by the Saccharomyces species (Brewers Yeast).
      So does that mean brewer's yeast should also be avoided?
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  • impositive
    impositive Member Posts: 629
    edited November 2010

    Crunchy, According to Doug Kaufmann... Yes, Brewer's Yeast should be avoided. And so should that red wine that our medical establishment is saying is good for us. There are better ways to get resveratrol.

    You are so right about Doctors. My daughter's GYN had her on Clomid. I tried to talk her into seeing my naturalpath and she finally agreed when the Clomid treatment was nearing it's end.

    You probably already know all this but it's maddening to me!  Here's what's so crazy about Clomid. Some of the side effects listed; 

    Can decease the quality of your cervical mucus (which sperm need to make their way to the egg) therefore making conception more difficult.

    Can make the lining of your uterus thinner and less ideal for implantation. 

    Oxymoron??? Geez!

    Sounds like you're on the right path and we'll be reading not too far in the distant future that you have great news!!

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  • impositive
    impositive Member Posts: 629
    edited November 2010

    Barry, It's funny, as I was reading your post with the seven items listed above, I kept thinking, I've read this somewhere before....Then I got to the bottom....Knowthecause.com.  I knew it sounded familiar! Doug Kaufmann has a webcast on Tuesday nights at 5pm central time (It's 6pm where I am so you might have to check that). You simply log on to the site and I think it comes up as a window that says "Doug next live broadcast." If not you can click on "watch the show". People call and and ask him questions regarding their ailment. It's very interesting. I've gotten though on the phone lines but it's not easy. (He sent me two free books!)

    Btw, I've gone back and re-read some of the posts as well. Pretty interesting what we missed the first time around.

    I've heard alot about those chia seeds. I looked at them the last time I was in the health food store. They were pretty pricey so I passed that time but I need to check them out. If you do an internet search and read up, they have some pretty incredible qualities. 

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  • impositive
    impositive Member Posts: 629
    edited November 2010

    I was just wondering if anyone's ever watched a TV show. I think it's on the Discovery channel, not sure. It's either called Mystery Diagnosis or Monster's Inside Me. (Sorry I dont watch a lot of TV and I cant remember if it's one or both of these. I'm leaning toward Mystery Diagnosis) Anyway, a number of the episodes that I have watched are about fungal infections. The patient has these serious, sometimes life threatening symptoms and no one can figure it out. Of course someone finally diagnoses it and they then can treat it.

    It always intrigues me of course because of the fungal aspect.

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  • Hindsfeet
    Hindsfeet Member Posts: 2,456
    edited August 2013

    That's my daughter and I favorite television program. That program showed us how important it is to be your own advocate...to search for an answer when you're told that there is nothing wrong with you, or you have some unknown disease. We watched this one program where a mortician does autopies to find out why people die. It also fancinating. One dead young woman died of sores that covered her body. The mortician initially thought it to be a unknown disease. The girl said her sores were from a fateful kiss. The mortician thought that to be nonsense. But the final pathology report showed that the sores all over her body was herpies simplix 1 ... mouth sores...from the fateful kiss! Why? Two weeks before the kiss, she just finished chemo. Her immune system was shot and could not fight off something as simple as a Herpies virus. After seeing that program, I said, never chemo for me. Maybe chemo wouldn't kill me, but my immune system wouldn't be strong enough to fight for me anything that came my way.

    With this story...I want to say that those who do chemo are brave. It's a personal choice to how someone choose to fight their battles.

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  • Hindsfeet
    Hindsfeet Member Posts: 2,456
    edited November 2010

    Bob's Red Mill sells chea seeds. We're hoping to purchase it in bulk. My husband takes it. I would, but not sure if it a pro or con in regard to yeast? It looks nasty...like fish eggs. It has a neutral taste. You put it in the water...and the seeds swell up. It absorbs about every thing in your stomach so take it without food. It is a good colon cleanser. It's suppose to be better than flax seeds.

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  • seaotter
    seaotter Member Posts: 1,083
    edited August 2013

    Does anyone know if I do a yeast cleanse should I stop all my supplements (iodine, vit c, turmeric, etc.)? Is there a certain cleanse that you would recommend? My head is spinning with all the options out there!

    Thanks, Patty

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  • impositive
    impositive Member Posts: 629
    edited December 2010

    Barry, Dr. G Medical Examiner! I caught that episode too.  You'll never guess what I think Herpes is!? LOL...It's dormant, then rears it's ugly head...goes dormant, etc.and the medical community doesn't know what causes it! 

    Anyway, I'm looking into the chia seeds.  They are loaded with benefits, it seems.  I think since they're a seed and not a grain, they're fine. I currently have psyllium that I try to take for fiber and colon cleansing but I always forget to take it. You're not supposed to take it with your vitamins and supplements because it absorbs a lot of what's in your gut and since I take antifungals 3 times a day as well, it's hard to fit it in.

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  • Hindsfeet
    Hindsfeet Member Posts: 2,456
    edited December 2010

    Patty, spilantaues usnea worked miraculously for me when my candida was the worst! I took 4 drops on my tongue in a day's time. The candida was so bad in the morning that I couldn't swallow, painful to eat and I could barely talk. At the end of the day my swollen tongue was normal, and the white junk on my tongue had almost cleared. The pain gone! Pau D Arco is another great anti-fungul tea...that detox's you. I am reluctant to purchase herbs online. I either purchase through New Seasons Wellness Center or through the Center for Natural Medicine/naturalpathic doc. They know what works, and what's best for you. I haven't done a colon cleanse except when I had a colonoscopy. I believe it's ok to take your supplements when cleasing yourself of yeast. You need everything good in you to combat the yeast in you. However, it is a long...process! I was on it for about 5 weeks earlier in the fall. After the holidays :) I plan to get really serious about it.

    Impositive...you mean herpies is fungus? I have herpies simplex 1 (cold sores). I contracted it as a teenager after sharing a drink. I rarely have outbreaks anymore, but I love the thought of eradicating it FOREVER! I just got home from work. It's hard to schedule in radio talks...rarely listen to the radio. Or, is he online? But, I would love it if you gave us updates on what Kaufmann shares on the radio. That way, we would all learn from what you are learning!

    Do you think measles, mumps and similiar viruses are from a mold origin? Do you think it's possible to permanenly rid yourself of fungus infection or something like herpies? If cancer is a fungus, do you believe that we could permanently get rid of it or just put into remission? Somewhere on this thread, or I read that there is something that breaks down fungus cell walls? If this is true than we could destroy herpies in us.  

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  • impositive
    impositive Member Posts: 629
    edited December 2010

    Seaotter, some say that until you've got the good bacteria in your gut replenished and your bowel cleaned and working daily, you may not be absorbing you supplements. If it were me, I would do a cleanse for a couple weeks then start back on your supplements.  I agree, there are so many cleanses out there. Here's a link with some good info.:

     http://curezone.com/cleanse/bowel/

    I started with pro-biotics and tried juicing vegetables but I couldn't do that exclusively. It took me a long time to get used to juicing. I also tried coffee enemas but only did those once or twice a week.  (not pretty, but I felt so good afterwards.)

    Maybe the link above will help you find something that will be a good fit for you.

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  • Hindsfeet
    Hindsfeet Member Posts: 2,456
    edited December 2010

    Something that came to my mind earlier today is that most people probably assume yeast or fungi is one and all in the same...and maybe confused that there are thousands of different types of fungi that invade the body that have different effect. Some are ringworm, another pysorsis, vaginal yeast infection, thrust, and MANY other types that infect us in different ways. 

    Impositive, do you think there is one type of fungi that invades the breast, or another, other organs ... or tissue? Just as the herpies invade only one part of our body, so could another instintively know where to find it's home in our body? 

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  • asschercut
    asschercut Member Posts: 159
    edited December 2010

    Chia is sooooo popular in Australia. You can purchase chia seeds/products in pharmacies, supermarkets and healthfood stores.

    "Successful product trials to use Chia in bread, pasta, noodles, baked goods, beverages dairy and meat products, have lead to new product developments, such as; Brownes Yoghurt and Ancient Grains by Fonterra, Anchor Food's Crusty Ancient Grains Bread Mix and the exclusive alliance between The Chia Company and Bakers Delight, that saw a Chia Bread Range launched in 640 stores nationally in February 2010.  A great success."

    "Chia is very rich in omega-3 fatty acids, even more so than flax seeds. And it has another advantage over flax: chia is so rich in antioxidants that the seeds don't deteriorate and can be stored for long periods without becoming rancid. And, unlike flax, they do not have to be ground to make their nutrients available to the body. Chia seeds also provide fiber (25 grams give you 6.9 grams of fiber) as well as calcium, phosphorus, magnesium, manganese, copper, iron, molybdenum, niacin, and zinc."

    My mother loves chia bread and brings us a loaf every time she visits.

    From what I know...insects don't really like chia plants, so they are pretty much organically grown.

    Three cheers for chia!

    Victoria

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