LCIS & atypical hyperplasia

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shymer
shymer Member Posts: 6

I was diagnosed with LCIS in 2002 and just a week ago I got the diagnosis of atypical hyperplasia.  I don't know if it is ductal or lobular.  I see the oncologist today.  Is there anyone who has been diagnosed with both of these. 

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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited November 2010

    if you have LCIS, you already have ALH---it's the step just before LCIS.  (I don't know about the ADH in that case). I was also diagnosed with LCIS, back in 2003. I do high risk surviellance of alternating mammos and MRIs every 6 months, took tamoxifen for 5 years and now take evista for further prevention. What treatment have you been doing since 2002? I would love to hear from you.

    Anne

  • shymer
    shymer Member Posts: 6
    edited November 2010

    I took tamoxifen for 4 1/2 years before developing a blood clot.  My oncologist put everything together very quickly for the Cancer Center in our town to be included in the STAR study that compared tamoxifen and evista. He did this for me because my husband had just lost his job due to the stores he worked for were being sold and our insurance was about to run out.  It was a blind study so I didn't know what I was taking for about 3 years.  I have been followed closely  by my oncologist and will be for the rest of my life because of the STAR study.  I have diagnostic mammograms once a year and visits with my breast specialist, Dr. Goulet and interviews with the Cancer Center.  I haven't done an MRI but I wonder now with the new diagnosis of ADH if it will ordered at some point.  I have had 4 biopsies, one being stereotactic and the other 3 excisional.  I saw Dr. Dugan yesterday and he has prescribed Femara.  I will see him in one month with labs and if everything is on track, 3 months and then every 6 months for 5 years.  What I have been frustrated with is that there just is not much information about either of these issues.  My Drs have been really good with any questions I have, but sometimes I am just not sure what to ask.  He did tell me yesterday that it is rather rare for a woman to have both.  he said my risk is probably 1 in 8 and with the Femara it will decrease by 50%, which is 1 in 16.  Thank you, Anne for responding.  It is good to hear from someone with the same issues!  And I do know who holds the future!

  • leaf
    leaf Member Posts: 8,188
    edited November 2010

    I was diagnosed with LCIS in Jan 2006 (stereotactic then excisional), then, on another biopsy in 2007, got diagnosed with ALH and ductal hyperplasia (not atypical ductal hyperplasia.)  I've been on tamoxifen since mid-2006.

  • shymer
    shymer Member Posts: 6
    edited November 2010

    Thank you for responding to my post.  My oncologist told me yesterday that it is not very common to be diagnosed with LCIS and ADH.  I have not connected with anyone in my sphere of influence with one or the other so that is why I am reaching out.  I was on tamoxifen for 4 1/2 years then developed a blood clot.  My oncologist prescribed Femara yesterday and I started it last night.  He says it does not cause blood clots.  I will be on it for 5 yrs along with close observation of mammograms and visits to oncologist (1 month, then 3, then every 6 as long as all my labs are good) and my breast specialist as well as my primary physician.  I will say that I feel very fortunate to have this information, not only for myself but my 2 adult daughters.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited November 2010

    shymer---I'm wondering why he prescribed femara--I always thought that was only for invasive bc; (not for LCIS, DCIS, ADH or ALH). I get MRIs as my risk is further elevated by my mom's ILC.

    Anne

  • shymer
    shymer Member Posts: 6
    edited November 2010

    That is what the description of femara reads, but Dr. Dugan, who is very well versed, and involved in many, in all the studies that are out there concerning breast cancer research, says that studies show that femara is also effective with ADH.  It decreases the amount of estrogen which can slow the growth or even stop the growth of some breast tumors that need estrogen to grow.

  • MammaShells
    MammaShells Member Posts: 53
    edited November 2010

    shymer, I'm relieved to find your post. After a core needle biopsy of microcalcification clusters with diagnosis of ADH I went in for an excisional biopsy and the report came back with LCIS, ALH and ADH in two large (12cm and 8cm) areas that were removed. I haven't found anything regarding risks for women with both LCIS and atypical hyperplasia. I have an appointment next Tuesday to go over the pathology in greater detail and plan to ask this exact question! I will check in with any information I receive.

  • shymer
    shymer Member Posts: 6
    edited November 2010

    I know the confusion you are feeling!  There just is not a lot of info on any of these findings!  My oncologist says it is rather rare for a woman to be diagnosed with LCIS and ADH and the risk is like 1 in 8.  So that is rather high, which we know it to be.  He did also say if my body tolerates the Femara for 5 yrs then it will decrease my risk by 50% which will be 1 in 16.  Eventually you will come to accept the diagnosis and be thankful that you have the information.  Just think if you had not been on top of your health and had not had the mammogram, eventually these cells very well could have been and most likely would have been, invasive cancer.  Be thankful that you now know!  I have a sister-in-law that is about 12 yrs younger than me and has been battling breast cancer for 5 years now.  She lives in WA state and we are in IN so it is heartbreaking for us not to be there to help.  Let me know what your Dr says - I will be curious to compare.  God Bless!

  • leaf
    leaf Member Posts: 8,188
    edited December 2010

    Hmm, I'm curious about the adjectives your doctor used. 

    1 in 8 is 12.5%. That's the approximate lifetime risk of the 'average' woman in the US.  This paper opines the average US woman has about a 12% lifetime chance of getting breast cancer. http://www.cancer.org/acs/groups/content/@nho/documents/document/f861009final90809pdf.pdf

    The American Cancer Society is not consistent in this 2007 paper, but calls LCIS  for the first 12 years 'moderate risk'.

    While lifetime risk of breast cancer for women diagnosed withLCIS may exceed 20%, the risk of invasive breast cancer is continuousand only moderate for risk in the 12 years following local excision.46  http://caonline.amcancersoc.org/cgi/content/full/57/2/75

    Of course, if you have a significant family history, that may change things....Breast cancer prediction is definitely in its infancy.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited December 2010

    Shymer,

    I have a diagnosis of LCIS and am curently interviewing doctors to settle on one that I can feel comfortable with. I am in your area and Dr. Goulet is one of the docs I am considering. He is leaving the IU Med Center and moving to Community (according to a mastectomy fitting person I met from there, it is HUGE, to quote her). I am waiting until January to set my appointment there after he arrives. I would be interested in hearing your thoughts on how your experience has been.

  • shymer
    shymer Member Posts: 6
    edited December 2010

    I have known that Dr. Goulet was considering leaving IU Med Center and going to Community but had not heard definitely.  In fact, I had a visit with the oncologist, Dr. Dugan on Thursday last week and I asked him.  He said they still did not know for sure, but that he was working on getting him to stay.  IU is in the Clarian network and after the first of the year, Clarian is incorporating Morgan Hospital in its network.  So as of last Thursday I think it was all still up in the air.  But my experience with Dr. Goulet is a very good one. In fact, if he leaves Clarian, I still plan on using him as my breast specialist.  He told me that if he does leave he will be in with Dr. Chase Lotich who is a very good Dr.  I have seen  her also early on.  So if you decide on Dr. Goulet, I do not think you will be disappointed.  He is very compassionate.  He takes his time with each patient and answers any questions or concerns you may have.  He also answers in terms that any lay person would understand.  Everyone here at Morgan Hospital and the Regional Cancer Center is sincerely hoping that he does not leave.  We have such a difficult time it seems keeping Drs that are so good.  We have good Drs, but Dr. Goulet is exceptional.  We are so fortunate to have the Regional Cancer Center and Dr. Dugan - he is amazing!   I still feel so fortunate that I have the information that I do.  My team of Drs watch me so closely.  Dr. Dugan just took me off femara for the time being. It was causing me to be very emotional and moody and we have some family situations that have been very stressful and the femara was increasing my stress.  Dr Dugan said there was no reason to prescribe an antidepressant to counter a medication that I really did not HAVE to be on.  It is a preventive and with the information they have on me, if anything did occur it would be handled quickly and a cure rate would be very high also.  I will see him again in 3 months and go from there.  But that is my experience with Dr. Goulet.  God Bless You!  Let me know your experience and progress.

  • feh
    feh Member Posts: 63
    edited January 2011

    I would have nothing done for atypical hyperplasia.  Perhaps I am a madwoman.

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