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  • TreadSoftly
    TreadSoftly Member Posts: 192
    edited October 2010

    Well ladies, I finally did it - I ran my first ever marathon! Smile It was such an amazing experience - it was a cold crisp autumn day, perfect for running really.  I took the advice I got on this thread and tried to pace myself at the beginning and not start out too fast.  Looking back at my mile splits over the race on my Garmin, I managed to pace myself really well - essentially 11 minute miles all the way to give me a time of 4 hours 50 mins.....Delighted with myself!!

    Such a feeling of elation at the finish line - I was so determined to finish and to put the last year behind me that nothing (and I mean nothing!) would have stopped me finishing that race! The atmosphere in Dublin was amazing, so many people out supporting, giving out sweets and loads of lively bands etc giving it a really great atmosphere. 

    I had planned to take 3 months off from running over the winter but when I got home, I looked up races in my neighbourhood and have signed up for a 10km on Dec 26th - I guess I really am bitten by the racing bug Laughing

  • lewing
    lewing Member Posts: 1,288
    edited October 2010

    AWESOME!!  Great job on the pacing . . . I know from sad experience how hard that is, especially when you're pumped.

    So glad that you had a good race, and hope that you enjoy at least a little bit of time off from running.

    L

  • sunflower71
    sunflower71 Member Posts: 130
    edited October 2010

    I am so happy to have found this thread!  Prior to my diagnosis on 9/23/10 I was training for my first marathon.  My last run was 10/9, just before my lumpectomy.  I am chemo bound soon but have asked throughout this journey, can I still run?  During my post-op with the surgeon I asked him, "can I run 12 miles this weekend?'.  He laughed at me and said no.  Smile  I am slowly getting back in my running shoes, today I did a 4 mile walk.  Tomorrow, I am going to try a 3 mile run. I just have to get over my post-lumpectomy boob bouncing. 

    I want to run the marathon still.  Is it possible to run long distance during chemo? 

  • lewing
    lewing Member Posts: 1,288
    edited October 2010

    Sunflower, so sorry for your diagnosis, but really glad that you found this thread.  I love the fact that you asked your surgeon about running . . . I did the same right from the beginning; I'm sure that when they left the room, my doctors shook their heads at the crazy running lady.  

    I think there are a few posters on this thread who managed to run (or run/walk) marathons during or soon after chemo.  But I think running your *first* marathon during chemo would be really, really hard.  My 2 cents - and everyone's different, so you should feel free to ignore this! - is to cut yourself plenty of slack, run as much as feels right to you, but don't focus on a particular race.   

    Linda 

  • English_Teacher
    English_Teacher Member Posts: 50
    edited October 2010

    Thanks, Laurie -- I appreciate the encouraging words!  I have had a harder time this week with any running at all -- I am thinking that I picked up a post-marathon cold (which is probably not surprising given the immune system issues; besides, it is not to uncommon for me to be sick after a marathon in even the best health).

    I think it's also a mental thing.  I have two more CMF chemos to go but I start radiation on Tuesday.  I think it's the going everyday part of it that has me down.  But, like you said, running has always been a way for me to just "think."  So I need to figure out how to keep running with an insane schedule that is about to get a bit crazier! 

    I hope everyone is well and exercising!  :D

  • Isabel49
    Isabel49 Member Posts: 1
    edited October 2010

    Hi, ladies!  Can I join you?  I didn't start running until I was 40 years old (I'll be 45 in January), but I definitely got hooked!  I've run some 5Ks and ironically, had begun training for a 10K right before my diagnosis (2/24/10).  I had a mastectomy (which included removal of lymph nodes--so I have concerns about LE) and DIEP reconstruction in June, started chemo in July (and just had my last treatment on 10/20!!!!), and will start 28 radiation treatments on November 15.  I haven't run since late May, but returned to walking about a week after surgery, and walked about 2 miles/day and started adding time on the stationary bike during chemo.  I miss running something awful--it was so important to me mentally and physically.

    Today, with much trepdiation, I went to the gym, got on the treadmill, and did a combo of walking and runnning.  The running was really hard--I've clearly lost a lot of ground, but I'm determined to get it back.

    I've read through your posts and you're all very inspiring!  I'd love to be able to come to this board for support and further inspiration. 

  • lewing
    lewing Member Posts: 1,288
    edited October 2010

    And we would love to have you!

    L

  • lciscarroll
    lciscarroll Member Posts: 91
    edited October 2010

    Isabel,

    Sounds like you are coming along great.  Run / walk is a great way to get back into it, slowly but surely.  I think after my 2 months plus of recovery after I have surgery in December,  I will just walk, then walk some more, then walk faster then maybe even try race walking before I get back into running.  Running  will always be out there waiting for me.

    Had a good run this morning.  Actually, made it all the way through my run before the rain came down hard.  

    Lewing- Thanks for the tip on core muscle strength for surgery.  I'll work on that.

    Laurie 

     

  • lciscarroll
    lciscarroll Member Posts: 91
    edited October 2010

    ENGLISH TEACHER- I have done multiple marathons.  I would say about a 1/3 of the time I would get sick just after the marathon from over training.  It is a thin line sometimes.  Lots of fluids, get some rest.

    So proud of you...

    Laurie

  • lewing
    lewing Member Posts: 1,288
    edited August 2013

    Here's this morning's race report.  It was a low-key cross-country race in a local park (two 2-mile loops, so 4 miles total).  It includes a few short stretches on cement/asphalt, but is mostly grass, wood chips, and dirt.  It also includes some short but wickedly steep hills -- so steep that on the way up, it feels as though your forehead is going to hit the grass in front of you, and on the way down, it feels like free-fall.  I don't know whether to be relieved or disappointed that there was no mud on the course. 

    Because there are so few opportunities for grown-ups to compete in a cross-country event, this race usually attracts a small but dedicated group of running club members, including some very good masters women.  This year, though, it was competing with another, bigger race.  Total turnout (y'all are going to laugh): maybe a dozen people altogether.  The women's field consisted of me; a legendary local runner (and fellow bc survivor) who's in her early 70s; and a 20-something girl there with her father.  And that was it: three of us.

    First mile (downhill on pavement, then a flat woodchip path and a loop around a baseball field, back on the same path, over a bridge and into the woods) - surprised myself by running 7:42, which put me well out in front of the other two women.

    Second mile - through the woods on a rutted trail, then up and down hills, back over the bridge and around on more trails, coming back more or less to the start.  I missed the turnaround, but another runner called out to me and I got back on track.  9:17 (like I said, those were some wicked hills, plus I lost a few seconds when I flubbed the turnaround).

    Third mile - repeat of the first, except with company, this time (two guys who'd been behind me until the turnaround).  My legs were starting to feel heavy, and I knew the next woman was a ways back from me, so I eased back to 7:58.

    Fourth mile - I dropped my escorts on the hills.  Then, anticipating the turnaround that I'd messed up on the first loop, I managed to get TOTALLY AND COMPLETELY LOST on a different section of the course: I turned, and ran into a big dead end.  I turned again, couldn't figure out what the f*** I was supposed to do, and was finally rescued by the arrival of the guy I'd dropped back on the hills.  Now I was following him . . . couldn't quite summon up the strength to pass him again, so he beat me by a few seconds.  The last mile was ~9:10.

    Finish time: 34:06.  And I had the pleasure of breaking the tape as first woman (let's just keep the size of the field our little secret, OK?).

    Linda

  • mightymon
    mightymon Member Posts: 823
    edited November 2010

    Congrat Linda!,

    I love running in a smaller race especially on the trail. 95 runner was my smallest. Get lost on the trail that is the beauty part on the trail running that you can't get from the road race. Not to scary here in NZ as we don't have any danger or poisonous animal, not even a snake.

    I had miss a turn and lost my way so many time. As a newbie I was once use lazy looking cow which at the time lying down in the shade eating grass as my landmark for the turn point. And of cause it was not there 1 and half hrs later and make me miss my turn. One lesson learn that day, never use anything that move to be you landmark no exception. :0)

    I had finish Auckland Marathon on Sunday in 4:46 hrs the worst time for me ever (PB was 4:11), but for someone who had find out about her BC 4 months ago and with 2 surgeries under her belt within that time (with the 2nd surgery 8 wks ago). This is to me will be one of my best time ever.

    Also got my port in on Monday (the look on the surgeon was priceless when I told him about my run).    

    I'm so happy to be at the start line and to finish it. I love every k that I'm run, yes I even enjoy that last 5k. My cheeks are sore from nearly 5 hrs of smiling. :0) 

     Keep up all the good work ladies, exercises & smiling surely will help us get though this journey. Smile

  • ktym
    ktym Member Posts: 2,637
    edited November 2010

    I was thinking of this thread when I was on the treadmill yesterday.  Nothing makes me feel like chemo was a long way away more than being able to run now (well, my fast jog version of running)

  • lciscarroll
    lciscarroll Member Posts: 91
    edited November 2010

    Mightymom,

    Excellent, such determination. Great job!

    Laurie

  • Charley
    Charley Member Posts: 255
    edited November 2010

    Way to go on the marathon Mightymon!  I hope the port isn't bothering you too bad.  And Linda, what a great story! My weekend race wasnt nearly as exciting or memorable.  I did run it in under 30 which was my goal.  It's the 7th year I've run it although I usually run the 15k ... I just didn't feel like I was ready to go that far .. I've only been running about 6 weeks (since surgery) and I've been working myself up slowly ...

  • lewing
    lewing Member Posts: 1,288
    edited November 2010

    Mightymom, that is just awesome.  You're 8 weeks out of surgery, and you ran within 1 min/km of your PB?  That's incredible.

    I bet trail running in NZ is amazing.

    Hope you're not too sore from either the race or the port procedure.  Heal up quickly!

    L

  • mightymon
    mightymon Member Posts: 823
    edited November 2010

    Thanks guys, the port is not to bad at all, and seem to be healing quite well. The position is directly under my running bra strap so maxi pads will be my best friend until the port come out.   

    I did some yoga today,  easy ride tomorrow, and maybe easy run on Sat, try to keep myself busy. My first FEC is on Tuesday so need some distraction. Smile

  • lewing
    lewing Member Posts: 1,288
    edited November 2010

    Good luck with your first treatment, Mightymon. 

  • mightymon
    mightymon Member Posts: 823
    edited November 2010

    Thanks Linda, 2nd day after my 1st  FEC and not feeling too bad at all. Just waking up with the mild headache but no nausea. (touch wood)  I'm really bad with nausea in the past so quite surprise of how well I'm doing after chemo. Had notice though that my breakfast already taste like paper. Will see how I feel later on the day but look like a yoga or a easy 5k walk/run will be on the card for me today. Smile  

  • lewing
    lewing Member Posts: 1,288
    edited November 2010

    Glad you're doing well, mightymon.  I'm hoping that cinnamonrocket will check in with her NYC marathon stories.  (I had a great time cheering people on from the sidelines, just before the 7 mile mark.)

    L

  • Charley
    Charley Member Posts: 255
    edited November 2010

    Mightmon - Glad to hear you are doing well.  Keep as active as you can. Chemo doesn't effect everyone the same and given the fact that you are in such good shape, hopefully you will fly through it!  Look at English Tea! Hang in there!

    ((Hugs)) Charley

  • citykitty
    citykitty Member Posts: 244
    edited November 2010

    Hi, all -- I'm so excited to have found this thread!  Thanks, Linda, for starting it!  I was diagnosed in Sep following biopsy surgery, and had a re-excision and sentinel node biopsy a week ago.  Tuesday is my post-op, when I find out my final staging and hopefully get a clue as to what treatment I'll have.  I'm expecting chemo, Herceptin, radiation, the works (assuming I don't have to go for more surgery first -- axillary dissection and/or mastectomy).  I have both IDC and DCIS, triple positive, clinically Stage 1.

    When I was diagnosed, I was in the middle of training for my fourth marathon & had just completed my first of four planned 20-milers.  Unfortunately, at the same time, I was hit with another whammy -- tibial stress fracture!  Not being able to run was almost as depressing as having cancer!  That knocked me out of running for 6-8 weeks, with the marathon only one week from the day I was cleared to run again.  I was seriously considering run-walking the marathon, but then my breast surgery was scheduled for two days before it, so I although I was disappointed to miss the race, I was "saved" from having to attempt a race I didn't feel truly ready for. 

    I'm not sure how much longer before I can resume running.  I ran about 2 weeks after the biopsy surgery, but this lymph node surgery in addition to the re-excision seems a little more involved.  I know my doc will tell me Tuesday, but I'm so eager to get back to it!

    I intend to run as much as I can through whatever treatment I have.  I have two marathons on the horizon for next year, including one big destination race that was going to be part of my celebration of the year I turn 50 (even though it's nowhere near my b-day).  Although I never expect to BQ, I thought it would be fun to see how well I can do in my new AG.  Now, however, I'm just really, really hoping I'll be physically able to do them, at any pace.

    I only began running a few years ago and was just starting to see some really exciting improvements in my speed.  Having cancer knock me out of training the way I'm used to for what -- a year?  Two? is really a pain, but I just hope to overcome it.  I've talked with other runners who've gone through treatment and assure me there is a light at the end of the tunnel -- so I guess I'll just keep running toward the other end of that tunnel, LOL!

  • lciscarroll
    lciscarroll Member Posts: 91
    edited November 2010
    I just heard a very interesting radio broadcast with Dr. Susan Love. I knew I had to share it with all of you.

    http://www.peoplespharmacy.com/2010/11/13/791-hormones-breast-cancer-and-bones/

    Laurie

  • lciscarroll
    lciscarroll Member Posts: 91
    edited November 2010

    You will need to fast forward through the first half of the radio broadcast to get to the section about BC.

    http://www.peoplespharmacy.com/2010/11/13/791-hormones-breast-cancer-and-bones/

    Any thoughts?
  • lewing
    lewing Member Posts: 1,288
    edited November 2010

    Ten miles in the cold wind this morning: now I'm sitting here eating a recovery snack of leftover polenta with maple syrup on top . . . yum.

    Hope everyone's running is going well.  Any Turkey Trots or Jingle Bell runs coming up?

     L

    (LCIScarroll, I haven't listened to the broadcast yet, but will try to this afternoon.)

  • runnergirl4life
    runnergirl4life Member Posts: 34
    edited November 2010

    Hello fellow runners!

    I'm new here and so glad to see this thread!

    I was diagnosed with IDC 4 days ago. 42 days ago on 10/10/10 I ran my first marathon in Portland, OR.

    My running story is that I ran long distance in high school and was on the track team a couple of years. I quit running on a regular basis shortly after high school graduation. Four years ago when I turned 40 I decided I wanted to train for a marathon. Two years later I started, and this year, finished my goal. Running has become a definite part of my life I intend to continue for the duration.

    I'm signed up for a 5K on December 5th. I'm determined to continue despite my situation and would like to run more races, particularly half marathons.

    It's great to have this support! I hope to be a help to others as well.

    Blessings,

    Renee'

  • lewing
    lewing Member Posts: 1,288
    edited November 2010

    Runnergirl4life, I'm so, so sorry about your diagnosis - you must still be reeling.  How telling that your first post on this board should be on this running thread!  There's a ton of support to be found on this board generally, but this thread is kinda special because it lets us share as runners as well as BC patients. 

    Oh, and congrats on your first marathon . . . and good luck in that upcoming 5K!

    Linda

  • lciscarroll
    lciscarroll Member Posts: 91
    edited November 2010

    Hello all my fellow runners.  Nice to be in touch again.  Runnergirl- I was at Portland, OR also, although I did the 1/2 marathon.  Congratulations to you.  I am 52 years old and have run my entire adult life. Kind of addicted I guess.  I find now I am both physically and emotionally dependent on my exercising.  Will be having BMX with GAP in December so I am not looking forward to doing nothing for 2 months.  I could just imagine my muscles atrophying as I lay around healing.  However, after all is said and done I am determined to get back to running.  The road will be slow and long but I will get there. 

    Laurie

  • runnergirl4life
    runnergirl4life Member Posts: 34
    edited November 2010

    Linda, yes. I'm sure most of us think that something like this would never happen to us. Not going to reason it or figure out why. Just move forward with what needs to be done. I have a great support system and am very active in my church so that helps.

    My biopsy follow up appointment is this afternoon so I will be finding out more. From what I've looked at on this website, it seems that the BC is at least stage II. Could be less, but the lump is considerably sized. The initial visit to my GP was measured as 4 cm.

    Thanks for the best wishes. I am looking forward to this upcoming race. It's been hard to be motivated to run as much as I should. I'm so much busier now with phone calls and dr appts. But, I need it to help keep me grounded. Thank goodness I've got that marathon training behind me. I feel I've got a good start keeping healthy and strong physically through all of this!

    Laurie, wasn't the weather just crazy that day?! Yes, I can imagine for myself, too, about the muscle thing, but thank goodness we've already got those muscles, eh? Do you live in the Portland area? If you are, maybe we can meet for a run sometime. Keep posted about your recovery. :)

    Renee'

  • lciscarroll
    lciscarroll Member Posts: 91
    edited November 2010

    runnergirl,

    Just remember what ever the results of the biopsy, there is a thread on this web site that will help direct you in your decision making.   I have learned that we need to be our own advocates when it comes to health care. When you get your BX result it will take a while to absorb all that was said.  Writing on this site and communicating helped me get through this.  Now I have a plan of action and feel empowered.  You will also, maybe not at first, but you will get there as you sort through everything.  There are the most wonderful women on this web site.  They will share their own stories to help you sort through this all.  I am here for you also.  

    There were days when running was more difficult just because my head was not into it.  I initially did not want to do Portland because I was upset and distracted.  Usually racing for me is 1/2 mental and the rest physical.  This time I just did not have my head into it.  HOWEVER once I got to the starting line and got pumped for the race, I reverted back to my old self, for a while anyway.  Then I felt great for the rest of the day.  It helped so much to be with all those wonderful runners.    It was a familiar place for me where I found comfort.  

    Now, getting ready for surgery I am determined to be in absolute prime shape so that I may recover more quickly.  Also, when I get stressed I have a tendency to really add on the miles.  The only thing is, I hope I do not get injured from over training.  Up to this point I have been forcing myself to cross train more, to avoid injuries.  However, lately I have been adding on that extra loop or so because I think I need that adrenaline rush and the feeling of being exhausted afterwards. The exhaustion really helps me sleep and relax later. i know- you know, exactly what I am talking about.

    Anyhow, let me know how the BX comes out.  We are all here to help.  You may PM me...

    Laurie

  • runnermama
    runnermama Member Posts: 7
    edited December 2010

    runnergirl and all,

    I'm new here too.  I was diagnosed on 12/3, and am still trying to figure out tx, etc...  I'm relatively young (35) and am SO glad to have found this thread.  Other that making it through this aliveSmile, my biggest fear was not being able to run or swim while going through treatment.  Working out is  my sanity when things get crazy, and I have a feeling that breast cancer qualifes!  I've got two kids, a 2 1/2 year old girl and a 2 1/2 month old boy, so I was actually just getting back into running after giving birth.  I've got a few races I think I'm going to have to put on hold, but at least after reading all of your guys posts, I know that I don't have to give up running altogether. It's nice to know I'm not alone:) 

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