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  • Claire82
    Claire82 Member Posts: 684
    edited November 2010

    ohhhhhhhh

    i'm paranoid - i do them all the time...

  • Lovelyface
    Lovelyface Member Posts: 674
    edited November 2010

    Titan - Regarding whether you should have a hysterectomy after Menopause - I am not exactly sure but I have 3 or 4 small fibroids, and recently my endometrial lining was looking a little thicker than normal on a pelvic scan so my gynocologist did an endometrial biopsy (painful).  You will notice most gyne's will tell you that after menopause the fibroids and everything else will begin to dry out, since estrogen level goes down at menopause.  I was thinking on the same lines, meaning if there is anything which looks even a little abnormal, due to being TN, I would have a total hysterectomy, meaning take the uterus and ovaries both out, just to be safe, although cancer can even come without one having a uterus or ovary. Sorry, this doesn't answer your question directly.

    Claire - I was told by my first BS that insurance will now approve an yearly MRI for me.  If one has breast cancer, an insurance company approves the $4K MRI for the woman every year.  I have heard that Christina Applegate (the actress) is working with some group to bring to the attention that all women should have a right to an MRI, not just BC patients, since MRI is the ultimate test which tells all and save lives.  I plan to insist on both mammo and MRI.  I had a mammo in Jan. 2010, and they missed it, I was given a clean bill of breast health.  My Onc. says they missed my cancer on the mammo.  I don't trust a mammo at all, however, you need both a mammo and MRI as you will notice on your reports that they like to "correlate" the findings and compare between the two.

    Once something comes up on your MRI or Mammo, then only will they send you for a diagnostic Ultra Sound.

    I am meeting with my Oncologist on December 1st to ask him what his plans are for monitoring me for 3 years after treatment.  I want him to tell me exactly, what the plan is.  Every 3 months - what?, Every 6 months - what?  I am terrified of mets and want to make sure I am covered.

    Event though everything sounds so great, believe me, it is difficult to cover everything with your doctors.  One can only accomplish so much at each doctor visit. All we can do is try and insist since it is our lives which are at stake, not theirs.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited February 2011

    Today at the Nature Center where I teach:

  • Luah
    Luah Member Posts: 1,541
    edited November 2010

    Heidi - lovely picture!  This week (actually most of the fall) has been unbelievably great weather in Toronto - I'm enjoying my walks/jogs and noticing nature sooo much more than ever before.  

    Titan:  I had a good conversation with my BS on my check-up last week, inquiring about an ooph. My understanding is that the procedure would be considered when: 1.  your cancer is estrogen-sensitive, and your ovaries are still producing a lot of estrogen (maybe despite tamoxifen) which could feed a recurrence - obviously this scenario doesn't apply to us at all; and 2. if you are BRCA +, which I realize you don't know.  Even if you aren't tested, you may want to talk with a genetic counsellor if you haven't already to set your mind at ease... here in Ontario, you aren't considered even moderate risk for hereditary BC (qualify for testing) unless you have TWO 1st/2nd degree relatives on same side of family with BC less than age 70 or OC any age; OR ONE 1st/2nd degree relative with BC before menopause.  After menopause,  a single relative with BC is considered much more likely to be a completely random/coincidental event (as post menopausal women are at higher risk of BC anyway).  (1st degree relative would be sister, mother, daughter; 2nd degree relative: aunt or grandmother)

    My BS also said the linkage between BC and ovarian cancer is only because of the BRCA abnormality.  I take that to mean that outside of the BRCA+ population, it doesn't really exist. As I'm BRCA-  she said my odds of getting ovarian cancer are just like any other woman on the street (very low). I'm not sure if this helps you at all - just thought I'd share...

  • LRM216
    LRM216 Member Posts: 2,115
    edited November 2010

    Lovelyface:

    Yes, I agree with you that you should ask your onc what his/her procedure for follow up is.  The normal protocol for follow up for triple neg's in my area, and I'm sure across the board, is every three months by the onc, which should include total blood tests and any other labs they wish to have, tumor markers (if your doctor does them, and I'm glad mine does), vitamin D testing (mine does it every 6 months), mine also checks my breasts very carefully, and does a physical on me testing for node swelling or any other lumps or bumps!  My onc took my first tumor marker at my first visit as a baseline and took the second one 3 months after chemo stopped.  While she doesn't put total stock in them, she does watch to see if they should suddenly shoot upward from the low number they have been, then she knows it's time to test to see what's going on.  My oncologist will schedule any scan if I want one, and I certainly do NOT want one, but should the need ever arise and I must have one, she will schedule it immediately.  She does not believe in any scans unless there is a symptom warranting it.  She also told me that this schedule will go on for 3 years, then switch to every 6 months until year 5, and then once a year, but if I wanted to keep on seeing her every 3 months after the 3 yrs., she would see me. This appears to be the "normal" schedule for the oncs in the Atlanta area that are knowledgeable about triple negative cancer and treat many patients with it.

    My BS sees me every six months and they have their own Breast Center which is great because I get all my results right on the spot.  I have a mammo on the bad breast every 6 months, and on both once a year, and they always do an US as part of the normal 6 month check and yearly check.  If anything is suspected at all, they then schedule a breast MRI. 

    After my radiation was over, she saw me 6 months later and then switched me to once a year and frankly, I really don't know why I see her, but I go anyway. 

    I feel my doctors are very proactive and trust them all.  They've gotten me this far and I pray the beast has been killed by all the miserable chemo and rads.  All any of us can do is hope for the best.  Hope my guidelines helped a little.

    I wish you all the best,

    Linda

  • Teka
    Teka Member Posts: 10,052
    edited August 2013

    Hi!

    My daughter brought home our yearly X-mas tree ornament.   I am so fortunate that she loves everything about X-mas.   

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited August 2013

    These recent posts have gotten me thinking again.

    WRT follow-up visits: how often do you gals see your rad onc? I've seen my BS, med onc and GP on a three month basis but haven't been back to see the radiologist (she said as long as I was being regularly seen I could just "rotate" her in). I'm nine months out from rads, see my med onc Dec. 13 and was initially thinking about eliminating the rad onc.

    However, it *is* another set of hands/eyes on my traitor boobs, so I was thinking to rotate her in next March, which would coincide with a six month mammo and one year rads completion.

    I've had tumor markers, Cat scans and a brain MRI due to several unusual findings/events since completion of treatment and this has kept me "busy" enough without scheduling a rad onc appt. Now though, I have to make a decision and/or an appt.with her.

    Don't you long for the time when we can stop visiting doctors on so frequent a basis? It's such a constant fricking reminder.

  • Sugar77
    Sugar77 Member Posts: 2,138
    edited November 2010

    Heidi - my radiation oncologist discharged me as a patient in August after seeing me for one follow up after radiation ended in April.  He said since I was also being seen by the medical oncologist, I no longer needed to see him.  Both he and the medical onc work out of the same cancer centre and he said it wasn't necessary.  I see my GP and my medical oncologist each every six months.  So I will be seen 3-4 times per year.

  • Titan
    Titan Member Posts: 2,956
    edited November 2010

    OMG..I just wrote this book and forgot to submit..guess it wasn't important.

  • hydeskate
    hydeskate Member Posts: 297
    edited November 2010

    I was dx at age 29 with TNBC with Mets in liver and spots on lung, 2/20 lymph nodes tested positive for cancer.  I was allergic to taxol so I ended up on Abraxane 9 doses, AC I think 6 doses, Surgery Double Mastectomy, Abraxane 3 doses, infection chemo stopped had to switch to radiation and then 5 more doses of Abraxane.  My scan after radaition was my first NED in August 09, but just to make sure they gave me more Chemo and in Oct 09 it was still NED.  I see my ONC every 3 months and communicate via email, I see my onc surgeron every 6 months, haven't seen my radiation dr. since my last radaition treatment.  I know that my GYN has been following my case via the computer since everything UNC has every done is on the computer, and my ONC sends her notes about me.

  • Titan
    Titan Member Posts: 2,956
    edited November 2010

    Hydeskate...thanks for your post..so happy that you are NED! 

  • laurajane
    laurajane Member Posts: 321
    edited November 2010

    Hi girlfriends. I've missed you all. I'm still on my roller coaster. I went for a 2nd opinion on Friday up in Indy. Wacko wants me to start radiation this week on my lymph area. I explained I wanted chemo first to get a jump start on killing these cancer cells that may be floating inside of me after having 14 positive lymphnodes. She claimed that I have been cured temporarily and she felt that the AC and Taxol ha worked because my tumor was not "that" much bigger at surgery than it was when I was first diagnosed. I explained the amzing decrease in size of it and my lymphs after about 5 Taxol and then the sudden increase in size in just a coupld of weeks. She implied that I had maybe imagined it. My onc had not put in her notes that she couldn't even find or feel my tumor at 5 Taxol. She also told me to stop any and all supplements, herbs etc. there was no scintific evidence and she thought  it could hurt my so-called treatment plan. So needless to say I am seeking a 3rd opinion at Sloan Kettering and have an appt Nov 23. My doc/friend has me scared and says I shouldn't wait for 3rd at SK because I need to start chemo this week. He has not yet found anyone to give it to me. My current so called onc has not returned my phonecalls from last week and her nurse said that onc has not had time to go over my info to determine what her plan is for me. So I am so excited to get a 3rd opinion at SK and they also have integrative docs which is really important to me. So I'd like to take a poll. What is the advise of all of my girlfriends on here which are on the same boat. Scared s***less about mets. 

    hydeskate- What does NED mean. I'm assuming it's "In the clear". I am so happy for you and it gives me so much hope. 

    Hhfheidi- Just love the doses of laughter you bring. Keep them coming girlfriend. 

    Titan- Everything is important. Now you have me so curious about what you wrote.

    The best thing that happened to me today hasn't happened yet. I'll keep you posted. LOL 

  • Claire82
    Claire82 Member Posts: 684
    edited November 2010
    No evidence of disease - a term we all love to hear Kiss
  • Teka
    Teka Member Posts: 10,052
    edited August 2013

    HI! laurajane,

    Doc Bill is still your good luck charm.   You going to SK to get 3rd opinion about PARP or what you should take 1st, chemo or radiation?  Your 1st oncologist may not like you getting 2nd and 3rd opinion, and if you're showing your true picture, it's possible that she or a staff member has been reading your posts.   Cover your butt.

  • gillyone
    gillyone Member Posts: 1,727
    edited November 2010

    Hydeskate - so happy you hear about NED.

  • PinkPeeCA
    PinkPeeCA Member Posts: 27
    edited November 2010

    to titan, hahaha, love it, and your off chemo?  been there too. k

    ditto that everything is important as well.
    Diagnosis: 9/25/2010, IDC, 2cm, Stage IIa, Grade 3, ER-, HER2-

  • PinkPeeCA
    PinkPeeCA Member Posts: 27
    edited November 2010

    to Laurajane,  I don't know if you got through on the phone numbers about parp etc. but if you want some other options, I have had three CTs so far and my tumor has been reduced by 75%,  I dread the taxol, but want the lumpectomy and radiation.  The way PARP seems to be moving around here, I think it may be standard treatment in another year or two and hopefully covered by insurance.  Three tumor boards, recommended chemo first for me, but as you know, we're all so different.

    Best thing yesterday:  Got dolled up in a wig and went to my daughter's vb season wrap party and hung out with 6 lovely ladies who tried on my wig after a margarita!  Watching twelve ten-year olds play with such love and affection was really a treat.  Son turned 14, and had a great group of boys over for a sleepover.  Nice kids, great night.

    Go OUTSIDE if you can, walk, breathe air.  It really helps me.  K

  • MBJ
    MBJ Member Posts: 4,352
    edited November 2010

    Titan:  I cannot tell you how many times I have done that and I was too tired to even try and repost. LOL!

    Laurajane:  I sent you a PM.  My third opinion was a charm!

    Hydeskate: So glad that you are NED and came hear to tell your story-thanks so much for sharing.

    California thinks it's summer again so I am going outside to enjoy!  Have a great Sunday everyone.

  • laurajane
    laurajane Member Posts: 321
    edited November 2010

    Pinkpee- Taxol worked for about 5 weeks shrunk my tumor and lymphs to the point I could barely feel them and then by eek 6  my tumor started growing rapidly and my lymphs actually swelled more and more daily until surgery. Moderate to severe pain once they started growing again so quickly.Thanks,I called both of those numbers twice and left messages but I have not received a call back. I was under the impression you had to be stage4 for the compassionate care parp inhibitor. Perhaps I was told this incorrectly by 2 different oncs. Are you on Carboplatin with the Taxol?

    MBJ- Sweetheart, thank-you as always for you PM. Going with the gut and a little input from my friends. 

    Teka- Feeling paranoid too! Funny the animosity I feel from my oncs nurse and her. 

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited August 2013

    LJ- the onc I saw at Sloan-Kettering gave a time frame for starting chemo after surgery. It was something like 84 days, and had to do with the life cycle of the cell. Ask when you go to Sloan. I'll look for her name in my files and add it back here later.

    Diana Lake was her name. If you Google MSK you will get a link to all their physicians' online bios.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited February 2011

    With a face like this words are not needed...

  • Teka
    Teka Member Posts: 10,052
    edited August 2013

    Laurajane,

    I feel trouble around every corner, and hide behind my cat. SmileWinkLaughing

  • Titan
    Titan Member Posts: 2,956
    edited November 2010

    try 15 months off chemo and still doing dumb things...How long can we use chemo brain as an excuse anyway?  My co-worker who is tn is 7 years out and she is very good at her job...she doesn't forget what she is saying when telling a story (like I do). I guess the good thing is..is that I know when I screw up now..during the chemo fog I didn't know I screwed up and didn't really care!..during chemo I often wore different color socks, different shoes...yes really...and sometimes wondered where the heck I was going when I was driving to and from work and to the grocery store..I'm not like that now..it gets better...really...

    LJ...hum...November 23 is only a couple weeks away...and you just had your surgery..IMHO..very humble..I think if you can wait a couple of weeks then you should.  I think that sometimes our doctors have their protocols and their set standards of taking care of us that they refuse to come out of the box sometimes...are you going to die in 2 weeks..no..unless you get hit by that proverbial bus they talk about alot on here...

    Have a great week everyone!  Going to press that dang submit button now...I hope! Laughing

  • Titan
    Titan Member Posts: 2,956
    edited November 2010

    Thanks Luah and Lovelyface with your info on the Brac testing...for me..I'm comfortable NOT taking the test...for some reason I feel that my tn is one of the random type of tn's...lucky me..huh? It's kind of a gut feeling for me...not denial..just a gut feeling..I honestly feel that my daughter will be OK...Obviously she is aware of the situation and taking very good care of herself by doing self breast exams and going to the ob/gyn. I am also making her take Vitamin D3.

  • MBJ
    MBJ Member Posts: 4,352
    edited November 2010

    LJ: HeidiToo is right--there is a timeline for these things but I forget what it is. 

    HeidiToo:  Cute!!!!  That puppy looks like he got caught with his paw in the dog cookie jar!LOL!!

  • Luah
    Luah Member Posts: 1,541
    edited November 2010

    Titan:  Completely understand where you're coming from!  Besides, without a strong family history, the odds are strongly in favor of being  BRCA- .  At least one study showed that only 11% of trip negs are BRCA+ .

  • MBJ
    MBJ Member Posts: 4,352
    edited November 2010

    Ladies, I just had my 3 month check up and everything was fine (blood tests and physical check up only).  This morning I woke up with the glands under my neck completely swollen.  I do have a bit of a cold (again, sigh) but should I be concerned?  Should I tell my dr?

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited February 2011

    MBJ- hmmm... probably if they don't subside in a few days I'd give the doc a call, just for peace of mind.

  • TifJ
    TifJ Member Posts: 1,568
    edited November 2010

    MBJ is it normal for you to have really swollen glands when you get a cold? I agree with Heiditoo.

    Tiffany

  • MBJ
    MBJ Member Posts: 4,352
    edited November 2010

    Thanks Heidi & Tiffany for replying so fast.  No, I usually don't get swollen glands.  I emailed both my Onc and my regular dr. and they said if I am sick I shouldn't be concerned.  I guess I will just keep an eye on it.  Have a great Monday.  It is beautiful in California today.

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