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  • impositive
    impositive Member Posts: 629
    edited November 2010

    I never really understood the hormone relationship (ER / PR) in this fungal theory. Alot of us are estrogen dominant, right? 

    There's a PubMed article titled "Effects of Reproductive Hormones on Experimental Vaginal Candidiasis". It says that estrogen increases the ability of most yeasts to adhere to our tissues. 

    I guess the fungal correlation could be the more estrogen we have, possibly the more yeast and fungi. The more yeast and fungi, the more mycotoxin production. AV Constantini MD lists not only Alzheimers, but strokes, heart attacks and cancer as being caused by myco(fungal) toxins(poisons).

    I also read somewhere that women on progesterone-only birth control pills rarely have yeast infections while those on estrogen-progesterone bc pills get them quite commonly so I'm wondering if progesterone is protective against yeast....

    My NP currently prescribes for me a bioidentical progesterone cream because I was estogen dominant. My tumor was ER/PR- and HER2+, wish I understood that better.

    Does anyone else have experience with hormones.   

  • Husband11
    Husband11 Member Posts: 2,264
    edited November 2010

    If you add an apple to your raw beet juice, it gets rid of that earthy taste.

  • BarbaraA
    BarbaraA Member Posts: 7,378
    edited November 2010

    If anyone is interested, the City of Hope is conducting a clinical trial using white button mushrooms for breast cancer recurrance prevention.

    http://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT00709020

  • thenewme
    thenewme Member Posts: 1,611
    edited November 2010

    Hi Barbara,thanks for the link to the clinical study!  Hopefully they'll get some great results!

    Hi Impositive, 

    It sounds as if you may be open to questions.  Do you know of any scientific research that shows or suggests specifically that cancer IS a fungus?

  • Husband11
    Husband11 Member Posts: 2,264
    edited November 2010

    The White button mushroom trial looks at its ability to act as an aromatase inhibitor.  Thanks for the post BarbaraA.  Can't seem to find any North American distributors of White button mushroom extract.  Doesn't seem to be popular here.  Maybe best just to eat the mushrooms and enjoy them.

  • misfit
    misfit Member Posts: 60
    edited November 2010

    impositive - Yes it is a gamble, and we're all just trying to better our odds. There may well be a lot of truth to the information that's been posted here...for some people. Nothing is one size fits all, conventional or alternative. I'm trying to do a bit of both. I think many of us would rather have a customized treatment plan and we're having to come up with it ourselves most of the time. We do this by researching and deliberating, but I will admit that good old non-scientific intuition probably plays a large part as well. I've read things on other threads that seemed to ring true for my body and so I looked into the subjects a little further. It's good that you started this discussion because it will probably resonate with some people in a similar way.

    I also want to add that I've been cut, poisoned and burned, but I now feel almost as good as I did before. Diet and exercise probably helped a lot. I have joint pain from the Herceptin but it's not that bad. I declined hormonal therapy and am currently looking at other options. To each her own. I sincerely hope the treatments you've chosen are successful for you.

  • Hindsfeet
    Hindsfeet Member Posts: 2,456
    edited August 2013

    thenewme, I don't believe anyone is saying here fungus is cancer...rather that it could very well be a component  or factor in the development of cancer. Fungus has the markings of cancer (similiarities). There are many different types of fungus, yeast or candida and different types of cancers. It's my opinion it is possible some cancers maybe caused by fungus. Again, my opinion :) 

    From what I understand at this point...there are many factors to why cancer develops...below are a few risk factors for developing cancer...fungus just happens to be high on the list for me.

    1. Fungus overgrowth (mold spores)

    2. Lack of oxoygen to the cells (lack of exercise...sedentary lifestyle)

    3. Stress

    4. Chemicals (radiation or chemicals like insecticides...also smoking)

    5. Injury/infection

    6. Genetics  

    7. Poor Diet (high sugar diet..fast foods)

  • impositive
    impositive Member Posts: 629
    edited November 2010

    Do you know of any scientific research that shows or suggests specifically that cancer IS a fungus?

    thenewme...You and others here have asked this question.  I have mentioned Aflatoxin (in previous posts), a common fungal contaminant in cereal grains, corn and peanuts. It is also found in tobacco which apparently is not regulated the the FDA.  There are studies and scientific evidence that this (AFB1) is unquestionably linked to cancer. We have known this since 1960. We've even known exactly where it damages our DNA and which specific genetic mutations it can cause (e.g. p53 tumor suppressor gene mutations) It's interesting that the tobacco leaf has always been implicated in lung cancer when it's probably the fungal contamination of the leaf.

    Here's a link:

    http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/717362

    This is an article written by Kerry Scott Lane MD. In it, there are links supporting his statements. It is titled "Alflatoxin, Tobacco, Ammonia and the P53 Tumor-Suppressor Gene. Cancer's Missing Link?"

    Even though the article is about tobacco, it is the aflatoxin that is the subject.

    I have copied include a few key points here.

    Aflatoxin, the fungal carcinogen first identified in 1960, is now recognized as the prototypical laboratory carcinogen. It causes mutations in the p53 tumor-suppressor gene as well as ras mutations, which are involved in the majority of human cancers.

    The mycotoxin aflatoxin B1 is a profound carcinogen known to mutate the p53 tumor-suppressor gene and to cause ras mutations. Dietary exposure to AFB1 indicates it is a hepatotoxin(hepa=liver)and hepatocarcinogen, specifically causing p53 mutations at codon 249.

    Aflatoxins are toxins produced by fungi that invade agricultural commodities under warm and wet storage conditions after harvesting. Aflatoxin was first identified in 1960 as one of the most potent carcinogens known, and has been recognized as a teratogen, mutagen, carcinogen, immunosuppressant, and potent inhibitor of protein synthesis. The US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) began regulating aflatoxin on agricultural commodities, such as peanuts, corn, and grains, in 1966.

    Aflatoxin has been shown to cause cancer in every animal model and cellular system studied, and to form adducts in the p53 tumor-suppressor gene that mutates in approximately half of all human cancers. Cherpillod and Amstad showed that AFB1 binds to the middle and third positions of p53 codon 248, inducing G-T transversions associated with lung cancer, and binds strongly to the third base pair of codon 249, generating a G-T transversion in a liver cancer mutational hotspot.[6]Benzpyrene has been shown to bind to positions in codon 248, but has not been shown to target codon 249. These codons are adjacent, and carcinogenic targeting is presently not well-understood; it has been suggested that targeting is affected by the positions of different nucleotides in short sequence.[7]

    "G:C to T:A transversions are the most frequent substitutions observed in cancers of the lung, breast, esophagus and liver," states Dr. Curtis C. Harris of the National Cancer Institute (NCI). "G to T transversion is more common in lung cancers from smokers when compared to never smokers."[8]Donnelly and coworkers state, "In addition to being a potent hepatocarcinogen, aflatoxin B1 (AFB1) is a pulmonary carcinogen in experimental animals, and epidemiological studies have shown an association between AFB1 exposure and lung cancer in humans."[9]In their study, lung tumor samples collected from 76 mice treated with doses of AFB1 showed 100% K-ras mutations

    Lasky and Silbergeld suggest, through study of p53 mutations, that environmental carcinogens are a cause of breast, esophageal, lung, ovarian, pancreatic, prostate, and skin cancers.

    Conclusion

    These studies strongly suggest that the genetic mutations known to be associated with aflatoxin are the same mutations often associated with the use of tobacco products. Aflatoxin is more than likely a causal agent or promoter of tobacco-associated cancers. The advancing technology of molecular epidemiology will presumably confirm this theory in the near future, with significant repercussions for public health and the tobacco industry.

    My comment in regards to his last sentence: This article was written 11 years ago. Where has science come since then regarding AFB1. If these studies point to AFB1, and they know enough about it to regulate it in our food, why has nothing been done by our FDA to regulate this (in tobacco)? 

  • impositive
    impositive Member Posts: 629
    edited November 2010

    Barry and thenewme..I go back and forth trying to interpret things and since I'm not a mycologist, biologist, etc., it is hard for me to understand the studies and differentiate...Is Cancer a fungus or is cancer caused by a fungus. The post above shows how aflatoxin "causes" cancer and if you have a fungus whether it be ingested, inhaled,etc. that puts off this by-product, you could develope cancer.

    However, I have read other things that may indicate cancer could indeed "be" fungus. "

    Fungal DNA can incorporate with it's host's (human) DNA, forming a hybrid cell. Therefore, this new hybrid cell, by definition, has abnormal cell structure and an abnormal nucleus."(Cellular Interactions in Symbiosis and Parasitism  Cook, C.B. Pappas, P.W. Rudolph, E.D.  Ohio State University Press 1980) 

    These are the same terms used to describe cancer cells. (abnormal cell structure and an abnormal nucleus)

    Characteristics of cancer:

    Abnormal cell structure. The nuclei of cancer cells are different from that of normal cells.

    Uncontrolled growth

    Rapid cellular proliferation. Cancer cells continue to reproduce while normal cells die.

    Ability to spread. Cancer cells can become dislodged and spread throughout the body.

    Ability to invade other tissues. Cancer cells secrete enzymes that allow them to invade the blood and lymphatic system.

    Heightened sensitivity to internal growth factors. Cancer cells divide and grow more rapidly than normal cells.

    Ability to divide without anchorage. Cancer cells divide in suspension or while traveling.

    Accelerated use of nutrients. Cancer cells use the bodies own nutrients more rapidly than do normal cells.

    Angiogenesis. Cancer cells promote the building of new cappillaries which supply the tumor with nutrients.

    Couldn't these terms be used to describe fungal cells in the body as well?

    Could they be confusing fungal cells (or human cells that are INFECTED with fungi), for cancer?

  • Hindsfeet
    Hindsfeet Member Posts: 2,456
    edited November 2010

    I read this interesting article that you may find interesting. I want to say up front that I lean to cancer being a type of fungus or at least a major factor in cancer. I also want to say no matter what the cause of cancer, it needs to be removed and treated.

    The exert is just a small part ... read all of http://www.alkalizeforhealth.net/Linfection.htm

    Cancer Industry Knows Fungi Cause Cancer

    The most amazing evidence that the cancer industry knows fungi cause cancer can be found by researching the mechanism for chemotherapy. The 1927 Nobel Prize in Chemistry was awarded to Dr. Heinrich Otto Wieland M.D. for "his investigations of the constitution of the bile acids and related substances". Ergosterol is named from the common grain and corn fungi called Ergot, from which the cell-wall membrane was named. Cholesterol was named for the Greek word "Chole", for bile, from which it was first identified. Since about 1927, the mechanism of toxic drugs to cure cancer has been to block ergosterol or kill fungi.

    A web search for chemotherapy and ergosterol will amaze you. Here you will find hundreds of medical university cancer-related sites. The following university lecture www.kcom.edu/faculty/chamberlain/Website/Lects/Fungi.htm#classif describes how chemotherapy functions. (I have added boldface type for emphasis of the ergosterol-blocking mechanism statements.) The lecture notes read as follows:

    Antifungal agents are classified according to their chemical structure as macrolides, azoles, allylamines, pyrimidine analogs and miscellaneous.

    The polyene antifungals are amphotericin B and nystatin which bind to ergosterol in the plasma membrane, thus disrupting it.

    The azole antifungals include fluconazole and keto-conazole plus numerous others. They all block ergosterol synthesis by binding to cytochrome P-450.

    The allylamines include naftifine and terbinafine which inhibit squalene epoxidase, thus blocking ergosterol systhesis.

    The pyrimidine analogs such as flycytosine incorporate into RNA and/or DNA, thus blocking protein synthesis or DNA systhesis.

    Purpose of Chemotherapy

    I'll bet you thought the function of chemotherapy was to kill all rapidly growing cancer cells. Whatever gave you that idea? Is there a cover-up in progress?

    At http://www.icgeb.trieste.it/~p450srv/P450Nom_Fungi.html we learn that "P450 enzymes (mentioned above) constitute a superfamily of haemthiolate proteins, widely distributed in bacteria, fungi, plants and animals. The enzymes are involved in...both exogenous (outside of cell membrane) and endogenous compounds." Haemthiolate means these enzymes substitute sulfur for oxygen, making the resulting tissue more solid. In addition, information on the fungi, Fusarium can be found here.

  • Hindsfeet
    Hindsfeet Member Posts: 2,456
    edited November 2010

    Estrogen Therapy Spreads Fungal Infection

    Urine collected from pregnant mares, used as a source of estrogen, also contains fungal estrogen and fumonisin from the fodder. These fungal growth factors cause abnormal growths. That's how estrogen therapy causes cysts and breast cancer. The same applies to hormonal therapy for prostate cancer

    Further proof that all cancer tumors are formed of fungal tissue can be found by surfing the web for "keratin pearls". Keratin pearls are another name for ergosterol. Here you can view thousands of photographs of cancer tumors.

  • Hindsfeet
    Hindsfeet Member Posts: 2,456
    edited November 2010

    John Hopkins U Patent States Case

    The most useful proof that fungi cause cancer, can be found at the Patent Office. To review an effective but suppressed cure for all fungal related diseases such as cancer and diabetes, go to the United States or Canadian Patent Office and look up "fatty acid syntheses". Locate the 1992 patent document number 2,181,031: Inhibitors of fatty acid syntheses as antimicrobial agents. Also go to the John Hopkins University website for additional details. Here you will discover, pardon me, uncover, a patent for a non-toxic method to block ergosterol production.

    The mechanism is very simple. Fungi must first make a fat or lipid (sterol) to make ergosterol. Fungal cells can only make sterols from carbohydrates. Human cells can make sterols from both carbohydrates and ingested fats. By blocking the enzymes required to produce sterols from carbohydrates, fungi cannot produce ergosterol. However, human cells can continue to produce cholesterol from ingested fats and stored fats. As a consequence, there is no toxicity to the human cells, but fungi cannot multiply.

    By reviewing the patent claims, you learn that the fatty-acid-synthesis blocker is a common drug called cerluenin. Stedman's Medical Dictionary defines cerluenin as effective for stimulating digestive secretions, gallbladder contractions, and release of insulin. It also inhibits fatty acid synthesis. [from: Cephalosporium caerulea, from which it is isolated] (Hydrazine sulphate acts in much the same manner in cancer patients - Editor, Alkalize For Health).

     

  • Hindsfeet
    Hindsfeet Member Posts: 2,456
    edited August 2013

    I read that those who are on chemo often have candida infections... I won't compare my recent symptoms to those on chemo...but, I know that with my candida infection.. your tongue swells, sores in mouth, can't eat, swallow or hurts to talk and brain fog. After I treated myself for candida those symptoms went away...so I wondered if someone has similiar side effects from chemo with thrush or yeast in the oral cavities and elsewhere that a candida diet, probiotics and anti yeast supplements would help them:)

  • motheroffoursons
    motheroffoursons Member Posts: 333
    edited August 2013

    I have not written for a long time, but get upset when something goes against known science.  I would hate for my breast cancer sisters to base their treatments on faulty understanding of science.

    In regard to these five points, they also apply to healthy human cells.

    1) Both cancer cells and fungi can metabolize nutrients in the absence of oxygen (anaerobically).  If we are exercising, we metabolize our blood sugar anerobically

    2) Both must have sugar in order to survive .  Same with us.  If our blood sugar gets low, the liver and hormones produce sugar.  If there is not enough sugar from that, the body uses a system called glucogenesis to carefully control our sugar level. (Except for diabetics)  Cancer cells, however, absorb sugar at a faster rate, but our bodies still control the total concentration.

    3) Both produce lactic acid.  The product of a healthy human's anerobic use of sugar is lactic acid.  It is what makes your muscles sore the day after some strenuous activity.

     4) Both respond to antifungal medicines-at least some cancers have "amazingly" gone into remission or reduced in size when an antifungal medicine was used to treat a co-existing fungal infection. Human cells respond to antifungal medicines.

    5) Both will die in the abscence of sugar. We will die too if we dont eat anything but fungi and cancer cells are particularly fond of carbohydrates-sugar!   He goes on to say the fact that cancer cells and fungi cells share such vital characteristics may be more than just coincidence. The implication is that we may be confusing fungal cells and human cells that are infected with fungi, as cancer.

    The structural components of fungi are a cell wall containing chitin and gllucans.  Human cells do not contain chitins.  Cancer cells are human cells with DNA gone awry.  There is not cross over and human cells do not contain this unique chemical found in fungus and crustaceous animals such as crabs and arthropods.

    Please make sure your decisions regarding your treatments match with science.  This baking soda nonsense is just that, and it can easily be confirmed on the internet that it is nothing but quackery.

  • Hindsfeet
    Hindsfeet Member Posts: 2,456
    edited November 2010

    motheroffoursons ...No one here is pushing the baking soda for cancer treatment. I don't know if you read all the posts or thread on the fungal theory. It is a discussion to if either fungus is a factor or is fungus. This thread hasn't said how to treat one's cancer. Most cancer patients struggle with candida...so if nothing else, information on this thread can help eliminate the candida.

     I believe it was said earlier that yes, sugar is necessary for the health of every cell.  But, if one has a candida infection they will want to eliminate sugar from their diet. Sugar is the source of energy for Cancer and Candida. Our normal cells main energy source is oxoygen.

    Diagnosis: 11/27/2008, DCIS, Stage 0, Grade 3, 0/2 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2+

  • Hindsfeet
    Hindsfeet Member Posts: 2,456
    edited November 2010

      This is from the Aerican Society ... Science ... Yes ...candida does invade the human cell

    Candida albicans is an opportunistic pathogen, which primarily affects neonates and immunocompromised individuals. The pathogencan invade the central nervous system, resulting in meningitis.At present, the pathogenesis of C. albicans meningitis is unclear.We used an in vitro model of the human blood-brain barrier toinvestigate the interaction(s) of C. albicans with human brainmicrovascular endothelial cells (BMEC). Binding of C. albicansto human BMEC was time and inoculum dependent. Invasion of C. albicans into human BMEC was demonstrated by using an enzyme-linkedimmunosorbent assay based on fluorescent staining of C. albicanswith calcoflour. In contrast, avirulent Candida mutant strainsand nonpathogenic yeast Saccharomyces cerevisiae were not ableto bind and invade human BMEC. Morphological studies revealedthat on association with human BMEC, C. albicans formed germ tubesand was able to bud intracellularly. Transmission electron microscopyshowed various stages of C. albicans interactions with human BMEC,e.g., pseudopod-like structures on human BMEC membrane and intracellularvacuole-like structures retaining C. albicans. Of interest, C. albicans was able to bud and develop pseudohyphae inside humanBMEC without apparent morphological changes of the host cells.In addition, C. albicans penetrates through human BMEC monolayerswithout a detectable change in transendothelial electrical resistanceand inulin permeability. This is the first demonstration thatC. albicans is able to adhere, invade, and transcytose acrosshuman BMEC without affecting monolayer integrity. A complete understandingof the interaction(s) of C. albicans with human BMEC should contributeto the understanding of the pathogenic mechanism(s) of C. albicansmeningitis.


    * Corresponding author. Mailing address: Division of Hematology-Oncology, MS 57, Childrens Hospital Los Angeles, Los Angeles,CA 90027. Phone: (323) 669-5647. Fax: (323) 953-9940. E-mail:ajong@chla.usc.edu .
    Infection and Immunity, July 2001, p. 4536-4544, Vol. 69, No. 7
    0019-9567/01/$04.00+0   DOI: 10.1128/IAI.69.7.4536-4544.2001
    Copyright © 2001, American Society for Microbiology. All rights reserved.
  • CrunchyPoodleMama
    CrunchyPoodleMama Member Posts: 1,220
    edited November 2010

    impositive, yup, I did eat the beets raw... interestingly, they didn't have much of a sweet taste at all (but they were delicious!!). (Timothy is right, though, if you're juicing it, I'd also juice an apple or a couple of carrots to make it taste better.) I wonder if cooking somehow brings out the natural sugars and makes them higher on the glycemic index?? I do love roasted beets with sea salt and garlic... such a far cry from nasty canned beets I used to think of as "beets"!

    One question that I don't believe I've seen addressed here yet (but maybe I missed it).... breast cancer (at least the common forms of IDC, DCIS etc.) starts in the ducts. Is there a fungus that lives in human milk ducts?

  • Pure
    Pure Member Posts: 1,796
    edited November 2010

    My friend was diagnosed with Multiple Mylomia. She followed Dr  Rober Young's diet to the T ( after quiting chemo and refusing the stem cell transplant)

    She also went out to his ranch. She drank the salts/ backing soda all  day long. She drank her food for 2 months-vegetables, juicing, supplements, baking soda etc... She then went to his ranch and you know what.. She paid $1000.00 a day and saw him twice.

    Her cancer is back and it's bad. The diet/lifestyle didn't work for her. And she not only followed it to the T but she actually was treated by his ranch.

    The doctors at UNC are surpised at how long she was ok before the cancer came back so they do feel the diet did help somewhat but it didn't cure her.

    I follow an alkaline diet and I feel fantastic!!!! Better then I havee ver felt but I would never risk my life. Watching LIsa choose this lifestyle has been so hard on her family. They so desperatly wanted her to have treatment but what I learned is that everyone has the right to choose what is right for themself. Despite how I felt about what she was doing I compeltely supported her and her choice and still do.

    There is this whole thery about Doctors and researchers trying to make money off this industry etc. Well the doctors I know work around the clock and extremely long long hours. They get paid well but lets face it they committed their life to helping others. They are away from their familes for days.

  • Hindsfeet
    Hindsfeet Member Posts: 2,456
    edited August 2013

      People can question natural medicine but not conventional medicine? People sue Pharmaceuticial companys all the time. Science gave me a prescription for premarian combination progest- that probably contributed to my b.c.

     Think about the cost of one chemo treatment. The cost of radiation? Surgeries? Tamoxifin?

     Naturalpathic doctors offer natural supplements that cost little compared to conventional medicine. I know...that's been my choice for treatment.

     There are a lot of people who find healing through holistic treatment. People die in both camps. There are bad doctors in both camps.

     I learned real fast that I'm my best advocate.  Doctors were ready to write out a presecription this past year rather than look for the cause of my symptoms. The doctors wanted to write me a prescription for heartburn when heartburn was not a problem. I wasn't about to take medicine when I knew it wasn't going to help. I wanted to know why, I had mouth sores, weakness and lost 26 pounds. After several months, a nurse practioner gave me a blood test for H Pylori. After erradication of H Pylori, and then treatment of my candida...finally, I'm feeling normal. First time in several months ... no mouth sores, and no more dizzy spells. I did a lot of research on the Internet that helped in finding my way through my then mystery health problems. 

    I have more stories where doctors in our own family and or friends made mistakes. Doctors aren't God. I'm not going to leave my health into the hands of fallible man (changing science). I want to uncover every rock to know why my body broke down, what I can do to prevent cancer or any other disease...and choose my treatment plan. If I make a mistake then let it be my choice and not someone elses.

  • Hindsfeet
    Hindsfeet Member Posts: 2,456
    edited August 2013

    I don't get it...this thread is not advocating a treatment plan for cancer. It's not pushing a baking soda treatment! Why is this always coming up...is it the only stone they can throw out at nauralpathic science?

    For those of you who chose conventional medicine, I just say, hey, hope it works for you. I am not about to talk you out of it. I would just encourage you to use naturalpathic medicine with conventional treatment :)

  • CrunchyPoodleMama
    CrunchyPoodleMama Member Posts: 1,220
    edited November 2010

    Well said, Barry. Smile

  • impositive
    impositive Member Posts: 629
    edited November 2010

    Crunchy,  

    I knew I had read some articles regarding aflatoxin in breast milk so I did an internet search.  Oh my gosh, there were lots of hits. This is just the first one that came up.  It would seem that if there are mycotoxins in breast milk then it must be in the ducts. 

    Aflatoxin M1 in breast-milk of UAE women.

    Abdulrazzaq YM, Osman N, Yousif ZM, Al-Falahi S.

    Department of Paediatrics, Faculty of Medicine & Health Sciences, UAE University, Al Ain, United Arab Emirates. yousef@uaeu.ac.ae

    Abstract

    A study was undertaken to determine whether breast-milk of mothers from the United Arab Emirates (UAE) contained aflatoxins. One hundred and forty lactating mothers, 55 who had delivered premature infants (<2500 g, </=37 wk gestational age) and 85 who had full-term infants, agreed to participate in the study. Breast-milk was collected during regular feeding of infants in the special care baby unit and postnatal wards using an electric breast pump and ten ml of milk was siphoned off into a zinc-free plastic container for analysis. Aflatoxin M(1) concentration in the breast-milk samples was measured by HPLC. Samples were collected between January 1999 and December 2000. Approximately 66% of the mothers were expatriates and 34% were UAE nationals. Babies' weight, postnatal age, sex, birthweight and gestational age, and mothers' nationality, age and parity were recorded. Overall, 92% of the breast-milk samples contained aflatoxin M(1). Both univariate and multivariate logistic regression analysis failed to show significant correlation between aflatoxin M(1) and gestational age, postnatal age, gender, nationality and clinical condition. Levels of lactose, protein and lipids did not correlate significantly with levels of aflatoxin M(1). The public should be educated about storing food and the hazards of aflatoxin ingestion to reduce the unacceptably frequent presence of aflatoxin in breast-milk.

  • CrunchyPoodleMama
    CrunchyPoodleMama Member Posts: 1,220
    edited November 2010
    impositive - that's TERRIBLE!!!!!!!!!! Frown So if that is representative of the general population, the vast majority of infants are drinking aflatoxins?!? This is a major, major problem... I wonder why no one is talking about this??
  • Husband11
    Husband11 Member Posts: 2,264
    edited November 2010

    What is the source of aflotoxins in the average person's diet?

  • Claire82
    Claire82 Member Posts: 684
    edited November 2010

    cereals it seems

    nuts also

  • impositive
    impositive Member Posts: 629
    edited November 2010

    Pure, I'm truly sorry to hear about your friend.

    You said "The doctors at UNC are surpised at how long she was ok before the cancer came back so they do feel the diet did help somewhat but it didn't cure her."

    I'm a little confused...Was the cancer gone when she stopped chemo and before when she went on the pH plan? Is that why she quit chemo?

    In my opinion, Dr. Young is a very intelligent scientist and has made great strides in his field.  However, I too looked into a stay at his ranch or his hospital in Mexico and was quite put off by the cost. So much so that I contacted them by e-mail to express my feelings. I was in turn contacted by a member of their staff, a Dr Patrick Sobota (PhD). Who said he understood my concerns and would be willing to help in anyway he could. He gave me his personal phone number and a good time to call him so he could take more time to talk to me.  When I called him back, he explained the program and gave me advice on how to move forward. We spoke for more than an hour, at no charge to me. So yes, they are expensive but as Barry said, so are hospitals  but no one seems to complain about that and I dont know many doctors or their staff who would take an hour with at no charge.

    The cancer industry is big business and with many a big business there is corruption.  I dont think it's this "big conspiracy" as we always hear. But I think people will protect when their businesses, their jobs, their livelihoods are at stake, they will go against what they believe to be "right" in some cases and in an industry of this magnitude, we are kidding ourselves to think it isn't happening.

    I dont blame the doctors. I blame the system. A system in which doctors prescribe drugs to manage disease instead of focusing on prevention.  We no longer have health care, we have disease care. The doctors hands are tied, most help us as best as they've been taught. (Drug companies sponsoring our doctors educations is a big conflict of interest.)  They have to go by the protocols (written by the drug company for any particular drug) or be at risk for loosing their license. It bothers me that I cant get a protocol that is tailored specifically for me, and the drug companies and insurance companies dictate what my treatment will be. I am a stage one cancer patient who was told I would be given the same protocol as a stage four. Just doesn't make sense....

  • impositive
    impositive Member Posts: 629
    edited November 2010

    Timothy, According to Dr Ruth Etzel, Corn is almost universally contaminated with mycotoxins. Grains and peanuts are other major sources.  You can find corn syrup or corn by-products in nearly everything on store shelves!  Not to mention the meat eaters who are consuming meat that has been grain fed (with feed containing up to 300 ppm of aflatoxin alone!) and injected with antibiotics (which is also a fungus). Grains exceeding 300 ppm can be used for making alcohol. (Beer, wine, etc.) 

    Based on the known levels of mycotoxins routinely found in grains, they can estimate that when following the grain based "Food Pyramid" diet, we are consuming between 0.150.5mg of aflatoxin per day. (keep in mind that a lethal dose is merely 10-20mg, according to Cheeke PR, Natural Toxicants in Feed, Forages and Poisonous Plants. )  This slow chronic poisoning mimics the slow gradual onset of chronic disease in humans.   

  • impositive
    impositive Member Posts: 629
    edited November 2010

    Sodium Bicarb seems to a sticking point for some here and for those asking for the science, here's a research article from the American Association of Cancer Research. The title is

    Bicarbonate Increases Tumor pH and Inhibits Spontaneous Metastases 

    It's 9 pages long but the title itself states its findings.

    http://cancerres.aacrjournals.org/content/69/6/2260.full.pdf+html?sid=d9f1ac17-fc35-45ad-bc4d-625d8f238213

  • impositive
    impositive Member Posts: 629
    edited November 2010

    Crunchy, I've wondered the same thing. Why is no one talking about all this!!!!!!!!!!

    I can't believe that this isn't looked at by the medical and scientific community as a big red flag? Why aren't they connecting the dots? If we have these studies available, why aren't we at least being educated on the dangers of these mycotoxins. Instead we have the SAD Food Pyramid that says we should be eating 6-11 servings of grains everyday and only 3-6 servings of vegetables.

  • motheroffoursons
    motheroffoursons Member Posts: 333
    edited August 2013

    Barry, I assume you wrote this my mistake

    Our normal cells main energy source is oxoygen

    Oxygen, by itself, is not an energy source. 

    The normal cells also use sugar as their primary energy source.  The sugar goes through complex chemical breakdown through various enzymes, combines with oxygen and produces ATP, adenosine triphosphate, our main energy molecule and carbon dioxide and water.

    In the absence of sufficient oxygen, our bodies use sugar  through anerobic respiration  to produce ATP and the result is lactic acid. 

    Anaerobic respiration is much less efficient and produces less ATP.  The body uses this when under stress such as intensive exercising when not enough oxygen is available in the blood stream.

    I am going to look up your connection between fungus and human cells.  I know that Nisseria, the causitive agent for gonnorhea, are intracellular bacteria.  I also know that virus/cancer connection is highly probably becuase viruses insert DNA or RNA into cells. 

    The key is if it can be shown that a fungus, or some other organisms, have the ability to change the DNA within the cell.

    Another issue is keratin.  Keratin is a protein found in humans and other complex organisms.  Chitin is a derivative of glucose and found in fungi.  If candida albicans were involved in cancer cells, there would a chitin, which is easily identifiable componenet.

    P.S.  The original post is about baking soda cure, so that is why I brought it up.

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