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  • sweetie2040
    sweetie2040 Member Posts: 817
    edited November 2010

    Mantra- You know how much I agonized over my choice of gummies vs. rounds. The reason I finally chose the rounds was for the exact reasons you don't like the gummies. My Dr stated it this way "the gummies look better without clothes, rounds look better in clothes".  The other reason I went with the rounds is I wanted something I could push up and get different looks in different bras. I can do that with the rounds. I will be honest though, rippling is a big issue for me. Now it could just because my skin is thin and maybe I would have had some of this with a gummie. I really believe there is no perfect solution, no perfect implant. When I made my decision it came down to what was most important to me. So for me it was being able to push them up, something softer and something fuller. I'll be honest I think I look pretty natural without clothes too. I actually have a tear drop shape with the rounds. Again, the only drawback for me is the rippling. I am seeing my Dr next week and will talk about the rippling issue and he may suggest gummies may resolve the issue, but I would not change out the round for the gummy because other than the rippling I love the rounds. For the record my Dr mainly does gummies and also told me they would look good on me. He kept saying the rounds would pop up too much on top and be really full. It was funny though because that's what I wanted, fullness. They don't pop up at all. They still look very natural.

    However, all this being said I think you have a beautiful result with your gummies and I see plenty of upper pole fullness and a beautiful shape. If you switch out to rounds you may change one set of things you don't like for another. I am finding I am able to adjust to what I don't like about the rounds by realizing at this point in time the is no perfect solution and these are not natural breasts any more. I think you need to give yourself more time to live with them and adjust. At first I was panicking about the ripples and wanted to change out to a bigger size right away. Now I'm realizing that I'll have to wait at least 3 months to do anything anyway so I might as well see how I feel about them in the meantime. This is a big adjustment period for us. We waited so long for the exchange that was supposed to make everything alright and give us back our body. I realized it is taking me more time than i thought to get used to the new me and like her.

  • heebie_jeebie
    heebie_jeebie Member Posts: 125
    edited November 2010

    I'm glad I still have plenty of time before my exchange - I don't know what to think at this point.  I was all for a gummy on my single side to match the native side, but I'm getting worried by all you unsatisfied customers.  I don't want a droopy looking foob after all of this.  If anyone reading this thread is happy with their gummy...please speak up and tell.  thanks.

  • Beesie
    Beesie Member Posts: 12,240
    edited November 2010

    I'm happy with my gummy. The last thing I would ever call my implant is droopy!  I do wish that it was softer but I much prefer the shape to the shape of a round implant.  I had a single mastectomy and the gummy is a good match to my natural breast. Being small breasted, I've never been a cleavage person - I would be uncomfortable showing cleavage - so pushing up my breasts to highlight my cleavage isn't a big deal for me.  Frankly, since I decided to go a bit bigger with my reconstruction (I had a small implant added to my natural side) I actually fill out my bras better now and I have more cleavage than I ever did before. But for me the objective was to look natural in clothes - just the way I looked before - and except for the fact that I'm just a bit larger, I do.

  • Lilah
    Lilah Member Posts: 4,898
    edited November 2010

    I too am happy with my gummy.  It is NOT droopy at all... in fact my only complaint really is that it doesn't sag as much as my remaining, natural breast (which was quite large prior to reduction/lift and does not sag like it did but still has way more sag than my gummy).  I think the sag is really due to how the PS does the implant in combination with how your anatomy is.  Despite the lack of sag, which means my gummy looks better when I am clothed (and wearing a bra) than when I am not, I like the shape a lot.

    Mantra -- I think you look great both clothed and not clothed! 

    Claire -- LOL... she did that to me too (both at MX and after exchange).  I love the big DO NOT REMOVE... it's so that no one touches your bandages but her (not you, not nurses, no one!)  I love that.

  • Mantra
    Mantra Member Posts: 968
    edited November 2010

    LILAH!!!! You weren't supposed to give away our secret . . . that you've seen me naked!! Geez, you promised you'd never tell. Okay people . . . just kidding. Laughing 

    I actually like my foobs better when I'm naked than when I'm clothed. It's not that they sag . . . 'cuz they don't. It's just that I have always worn a push up bra . . . even though I was a small B and in reality I had very little to push up!!

    I guess having them not move is just something I was completely unprepared for. Perhaps a bit naive on my part  . . . but I really expected to wake up with something that resembled breasts in every way except with scars and minus nipples. That included thinking I'd throw on a push up bra and they'd react the same way natural breasts do. This was a complete shock.

    I remember seeing that actress who was on ER . . . can't recall her name. She was on a talk show and said her PS had some past patient volunteers who came into his office and let her feel their implants and explain to her what they should expect. I believe she said it wasn't just because of who she was, it was something that any patient had the opportunity to do. It helped her decide which route to go and interesting enough, if I remember correctly she chose the gummies. She said it was the weirdest experience she even went through but found it extremely helpful.

    Actually, I think instead of DO NOT REMOVE, they should send us home with a sign that says DO NOT TOUCH!! I know DH could hardly wait to try out the new "toys" and all I could picture was having to explain to PS why my implants were now off centre.

  • Lilah
    Lilah Member Posts: 4,898
    edited August 2013

    LOL Mantra re: our secret :)

    As for the not moving... at first it bothered me but after some months passed I noticed there was more movement.  In the beginning I could not push the implant toward my other breast... but COULD push my real breast toward the implant... NOW I can move my implant a little.  I have no desire (nor have I tried) to wear a push up bra, but I think I probably could do so now. 

    I think you need to give your implants more time to settle; though there isn't much drop and fluff with gummies, there ARE changes that happen and one I've noticed is a softening up of the tissue around the implant (or maybe that's just a matter of swelling going away).

    That said, if you are really unhappy you should absolutely change to regular silicone.  I think you should see if you can find/meet anyone who has regular silicone (so you can feel what the difference is IN a body as opposed to do in the palm of your hand).  I don't know how exactly you can do that... but somehow that is what I think you need so that you can see for yourself how much different they are.  That said, what Sweetie wrote is true: there is no perfect implant... but not everyone should have one or the other (some are better suited to the gummy, others to the silicone or the saline). 

  • heebie_jeebie
    heebie_jeebie Member Posts: 125
    edited November 2010

    LIlah and Bessie - thanks so much.  I feel much better now about my potential gummy.  I only own one push-up bra and always felt a little silly wearing it, so I think the gummy shape will be fine for me.  I would be happy with a natural look, too.

     Bessie - you sound so much like me!  I was a "barely B" before and now will probably be a B+.  I will most likely have a small implant put in the natural side, too.  What size did you have in the natural side and how do you like the results there?  Also, did the natural side also get a gummy or was it a round?  How many CC did you get?  and how large did  your TE get inflated to?

    Mantra - I love that idea about seeing and feeling them before you committ.  Too bad that idea is not widespread. 

  • sweetie2040
    sweetie2040 Member Posts: 817
    edited November 2010

    Mantra-maybe you could call your Dr's office and ask if you could talk to a former patient. I acutally met someone who was a patient of my Dr. and she showed me her implant (it was a gummy) I also saw someone who had a saline round. Seeing both gave me an idea of what they looked like in person. I thought acutally they both looked great. The gummy felt very soft and she was very happy with it and still is. All of this is such a hard decision. I remember someone telling me they were glad their Dr didn't do gummies because having the choice between the two can drive you nuts. I said it before and I'll say it again, when choosing get all your facts and opinions, but think long and hard  about what is important to you. You will be happy if you choose the one that meets your expections.

  • Mantra
    Mantra Member Posts: 968
    edited November 2010

    Sweetie, I could just picture the converstion. Hi, I'd like to be set up with some women who are willing to strip for me and let me poke, squeeze and jiggle their breasts. Yes, of course you heard me right. Oh, and DH wants to know if he can come too.

    I think I will be the first person ever kicked out of a cancer hospital.

    Having the PS volunteer is one thing . . . but by me asking, it is either going to paint me as 1. insane. 2. a pervert 3. Brilliant.  Alex, I'll take Brilliant for $5000.  

  • Beesie
    Beesie Member Posts: 12,240
    edited November 2010

    heebie_jeebie, yup, we're the same size. I went from barely "B" to filling out my "B" cups very nicely. Gummies on both sides.  I had a 370g 410MX (moderate height, extra full projection) on the reconstruction side and a 195g 410ML (moderate height, low projection) placed under the muscle on the 'good' side.  I don't remember how much my TE was filled; it was overfilled a bit but not that much, as I recall.

  • sweetie2040
    sweetie2040 Member Posts: 817
    edited November 2010

    Mantra-you made me laugh! Maybe your right. Actually what happened was I met her online and we started talking and we happened to have the same Dr. After my BMX she visited me and then she offered to show me. The other girl was the sister-in-law of my friend and she offered to show me because I was distraught about even choosing to do a BMX in the first place.

    Beesie- I saw your pics in the forum and I think you have a beautiful result. If I went the route of the gummies and got a result like yours or Mantra's for that matter I would have been very happy. We all have remember here both types have their advantages and disadvantages to some extent, but if you pick the one closest to your wants and needs you are likely to be content enough.

  • Mantra
    Mantra Member Posts: 968
    edited November 2010

    I just keep wondering if maybe my implants are lower than what they should be. I remember meeting the plastic surgeon the first time and she said my natural breasts were sitting a little lower than they should be. She said she would correct this post mastectomy. But I never asked her if she did. So I spent some time googling where breasts should sit on the chest and came up with one description that I posted on the implant thread. I followed the instructions and if I am doing them right, my implants are low.

  • heebie_jeebie
    heebie_jeebie Member Posts: 125
    edited November 2010

    Bessie: I did not know the gummies came in projections, I don't know if they do in the USA.  I should find out.  Any idea how the g measurment compares to the cc they use in the US?  I will have to do some investigation on this.  I know he was talking about a possible 100 cc size on the "good" side.

  • Lilah
    Lilah Member Posts: 4,898
    edited November 2010

    Heebie Jeebie -- they come in all the same sizes here as in Canada.  Mine is a 685g MX -- the M stands for Medium Height and the X for Extra Full Projection.  There are low, medium and full height and moderate, full and extra full projection varieties.  Go to the Allergan site and look up the 410 to see all the options.  If you know the model of TEs you have you can see what your options are by finding implants with a similar width to your TEs.

    Mantra -- step away from the mirror girl!

  • heebie_jeebie
    heebie_jeebie Member Posts: 125
    edited November 2010

    Lilah - thanks,  I was just looking at a web site that said we americans only had the option of FF, FM, MM, MF.  If you got MX, that must not be true.  I will need a big list of questions for my next dr. appt.

  • Lilah
    Lilah Member Posts: 4,898
    edited August 2013

    Yeah I saw that too and asked my PS about it and she said: not true.  I am living proof with my Extra projection (aka MX)!

  • Sharon2010
    Sharon2010 Member Posts: 49
    edited November 2010

    Mantra- I hear you about not wanting to look "braless" all the time.  That's the main reason I went in for the revision.  To bring them up higher, and also to redistribute the weight so they don't look so bottom heavy.  It did work, but my scars are almost twice as long now.  I'll need to do a few more fat graftings for it to take.  I can already see where the fat was reabsorbed, making them look a bit too tear dropped again.  He didn't just fill in the ripples with fat, but also built up the upper pole so it was more balanced than bottom heavy.  I'm not doing anything for a while now, until I figure out my treatment course.  I have a day of doctor appointments in Philly tomorrow, and hopefully that will give me a bit more direction.  The fact that I have gummies might actually work in my favor if I get radiation.  They are firmer and less likely to form as much of a capsular constricture around it, which radiation causes.  There are pros and cons to both traditional silicone and gummies.  Traditional has more ripples and a higher shell failure rate, requiring more surgery. I think if I could go back in time, I would probably get the round silicone instead.  But had I done that, we wouldn't have caught the recurrence.  Everything happens for a reason.  I also think if mine were smaller, then the "droop effect" wouldn't be so evident.  

    Asking to meet other patients is perfectly acceptable.  I met someone in my PSs office when she was coming in for her pre-op appointment and I was there for a 2 week post-op followup.  We started talking and then went into the bathroom so she could look and feel to know what she was getting.

    I also have  extra projection.  It's interesting how every doctor that participates in this study has different information.  Be it size or distance that you must live, it really varies!  It sounds like the company doesn't disseminate information very well, or doesn't have a very organized outreach method to their doctors.  I wonder if that has anything to do with their not getting FDA approved yet.  On another note, I can't imagine why anyone would even consider these for just a cosmetic boob job!  What woman would want boobs that don't act like boobs if she didn't feel the (medical) need to get them?

  • Mantra
    Mantra Member Posts: 968
    edited November 2010

    Okay, SERIOUSLY . . .  I think I'm the only person on this thread who has never been given an invitation to feel someone's implants, or had someone ask to feel mine. I'm starting to feel like a wallflower Laughing I mean Sharon actually picks up some stranger and has a little touch and see in a bathroom. Not to be too judgemental but  . . . Sharon . . . how classic!! Laughing

  • Jerusha
    Jerusha Member Posts: 406
    edited November 2010

    OK, I'll admit it. Not to make you feel bad, Mantra, but I, too had a little bathroom encounter. Well, we did have breakfast first. And I did know her...Actually, she was such a sweetheart about it. Totally understood how freaked I was. Our kids went to kindergarten together ( now h.s seniors). When I called and asked for the rendez-vous, she didnt blink an eye, but agreed to meet me the next morning! Sure we can meet for breakfast, after not talking for 12 years, and when we are done with our pancakes we can  go into the bathroom and you can feel my boobies.Laughing

    When you least expect it, a sister is there for you!

  • Mantra
    Mantra Member Posts: 968
    edited November 2010

    And Jerusha . .  this is supposed to make me feel better, how?? Laughing But breakfast beforehand was a classy touch (no pun intended)

    I guess I'm going to have to post a personal ad. How pathetic!

  • heebie_jeebie
    heebie_jeebie Member Posts: 125
    edited November 2010

    Bessie:  Sweetie mentioned your photos - what are they listed under?

  • Beesie
    Beesie Member Posts: 12,240
    edited November 2010

    heebie_jeebie, I'll send you a PM. 

  • Mantra
    Mantra Member Posts: 968
    edited August 2013

    Sharon2010, hope your appointments go well today. It will be nice to finally have a firm plan of action in place.

    I don't really have any sag with my implants. Maybe size has something to do with that. Not sure. I just wasn't prepared for implants that don't move. I think my frustration is centred around trying to find bras that work. I've found a ton that don't; only adding to my frustration.

    I'm now approaching week 4 and they have definitely softened. Even more than I had anticipated. So that's a bonus. I really think that once I can finally wrap my head around the differences between all implants vs real breasts, I will be much further ahead.

    Not sure if everyone is familiar with "Belinda" the very realistic (mechanically) dummy that is used in teaching CPR. Perhaps they should have a similar dummy for breast implants that PS can use. One that would really mimmick the human body so you could see what the final implants would act, feel and look like in a person. I know I was handed one to hold but it was ridiculous. It was so soft and squishy and that's what make me think that I would wake up with squishy moveable breasts.

  • jillyG
    jillyG Member Posts: 401
    edited November 2010

    Mantra, the mannequin idea is great.  I'm glad to hear that they are starting to soften up for you, I'm sure over time they will get better and better and maybe they'll be able to move a little more in time. 

    Sharon, I hope your appts went well, keep us posted on your treatment plan.  I wish I lived near you!  I would love to be able to touch a gummy implant or even look at someone who has them, in person.  I feel like asking my PS for pictures of women that have the gummy (since he's been doing them 10 years) and seeing what the results have been.  I know he must have pics because he took my before pic and it's in my file.  I'm assuming he does 'after' pics as well.  I will ask his secretary when I'm there for my pre-op on Nov 25th. 

    Jerusha, isn't that such a wonderful thing...that you can have a bond with bc sisters and you just want the best for them and to help them out anyway you can?  I saw a lady at my son's hockey game that was bald and had a little hat with a pink ribbon and I wanted to go up and hug her and ask how she is doing, but you never know when you are stepping over a line, or how private that person is etc.  I would for sure let another breast cancer sister have a look at my expanders and feel them if they are just starting the process.  I guess so many people have seen my chest over the past 2 years, that a few more won't hurt!

  • Mantra
    Mantra Member Posts: 968
    edited November 2010

    Wow, the implants seem to be getting quite soft. I have to massage cream into the scars twice a day for 10 minutes each time and I can really feel how soft the implants are getting. If it wasn't for the darn scars (and of course the missing nipples!) I swear they could pass for the real thing. But the scars are a dead give away.

  • Lilah
    Lilah Member Posts: 4,898
    edited November 2010

    Nice!  Glad they are softening up... next thing ya know you'll be putting on a push up bra and wowing the cabana boy er I mean your DH :)

  • Mantra
    Mantra Member Posts: 968
    edited November 2010

    Who wouldn't one of these! I think every woman should have one IMHO.

    A cabana boy is a male attendant (boy in this sense) performing 'personal services' to the guests of a hotel or a large private estate, operating from a nearby cabaña (American Spanish for cabin; compare cabin boy), notably on a beach. A pool boy performs the same duties at a swimming pool. Cabana boys are typically viewed as scantily clad attractive young men who cater to their clients' every whim.

  • Lilah
    Lilah Member Posts: 4,898
    edited November 2010

    LOL Mantra thanks for the Webster!

  • Mantra
    Mantra Member Posts: 968
    edited November 2010
    Well, since I couldn't send you the real thing, I thought I'd send you a description/definition. Wink
  • Lilah
    Lilah Member Posts: 4,898
    edited November 2010

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