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  • CT124
    CT124 Member Posts: 85
    edited October 2010

    Hi Debbie Lynn-

    we actually have the same name. and I am not that far-in CT on the NY border.I just did #6. had heavy feeling in breast and swelling after 2 txs-they told me it was too early to feel that way. Over the weekend without tx, it got a little better. When I started up again on Mon, it flared up again. I have expander in place and the swelling was obvious and more swelling in hand. Saw PS who was considering taking alittle fluid out of expander but doesn't really want to do it on rad skin and would need antibiotics, and if it got infected would be a mess. My wbc count is also heading down after a week, so don't really want to take any chance w infection. went back for OT today and they did lymphatic drainage and I did it last night and breast is softening a little and the awful presssure let up a little, so am going to hang in there and see if this helps. My chest is achy. I would let your techs, nurses and/or doc know. They know your tx plan and history and can tell you if this is expected. And they can probably offer you suggestions how to best manage your response to rads. Hope you feel better.

    fayebu-I never thought to look at Westchester-it's ab 35 min from me. I can't believe tech said that to you. I have a friend who threatens to write a book "you can't make this sh__ up." My favorite line to hear is "Wow, you don't look like you have cancer". I would have thought that the fact that most of my hair is gone w bald patches and now I have purple marks that seem to peek out of every shirt I wear, etc etc might be a clue. This journey has been an experience.

    designer mom-I wish in some ways I had looked more at face down, but I got to the point where I felt like I was second guessing myself and worrying about everything, and felt so lousy after chemo that I didn't feel I could deal with any commute. I liked the idea that it offers more protection to heart. Hope you are doing well. If I remember, you are further along in your txs?

    Has anyone had counts dropping w RT.  My white count had finally come back after chemo and now after 1 week of RT is at low normal and am worried that by next week it will down further.

    At least tomorrows friday, so we will all have what for me is a very needed weekend break.

    Thank you all for sharing. It makes this process easier.

    Deb

  • Beanius
    Beanius Member Posts: 1,697
    edited October 2010

    I didn't realize white blood cell count would be affected by rads...mines been low but still treatable in my 2nd to last chemo cycle. Fatigue is really noticeable at this point.

    Happy Friday to All My Rad Friends! ~ Beans

    bassett

  • LtotheK
    LtotheK Member Posts: 2,095
    edited October 2010

    I haven't had my blood work done for a while (glad for the poking reprieve!) but was advised to keep a high-protein diet.  That may help in general.

  • JFV
    JFV Member Posts: 795
    edited October 2010

    Hi All,  My CBC has been checked once during rads.  Since I work at an elementary school they may check it again. The hope for me is that if it drops I'll stay home a couple of days to avoid all the kid germs. 

    Someone was talking about the bolus on this thread.  (I think).  They just put a bar code on mine and now must scan that and the radiation concentrator prior to each zap.

    I am very tired and my chest is tight.  But, my skin is doing well.  I can't totally blame fatigue on rads since i started rads, tamox and work all this month.  Who knows what is causing which problem.

  • ranafazal
    ranafazal Member Posts: 30
    edited October 2010

    I've had 15 so far and now my skin is getting burned up in patches.The itching was driving me crazy,so the nice rad. tech gave me a saline solution and told me to put on compresses soaked in it, and then airdry the breast.So did that yesterday and itching is still there, but more manageable, and now this whole weekend will be devoted to saline compresses! I see the doctor on Tuesday, just hope there is no infection--the skin  affected is mostly under the arm and under the breast.

    I have been putting Lubriderm which seems pretty useless, maybe will try Aquafor now...Deadlanguages,were the boosts for a shorter period than the time taken for a regular rad zap?

  • CT124
    CT124 Member Posts: 85
    edited August 2013

    Beanius-love the picture. Mine crashed with every chemo in spite of neulasta. spent most of my time on ABs. Hoping that rad will be different. apparently if counts are going to head down, usually around/after wk 2.

    MHP70-having been tryin g that. maybe I need a little more.am trying to walk everyday too. wish I knew what would work.

    JFV-what grade do u work with. I think it is so interesting how we are all treated differently. My MO didn't want to start tamox until after rads. did you go to tamox right after chemo?

    ranafazal-sorry to hear that your skin is getting tired. I think I remember a post on sept rads where someone talked ab saline. Hope by Sunday you are feeling better.

    Is everyone finding chest feels tight and is swollen. I was going to have some fluid taken out of expander, but RO talked me out of it. Said that removing some fluid will make it feel better for maybe a couple of days and then swelling will continue and will be right back where it was before removing fluid. so I guess this is how Nov. will go!

    But we have a great weekend off. Susposed to get cold here, 30 tonight.

  • JFV
    JFV Member Posts: 795
    edited October 2010

    CT124-  I work with first grade.  I am an assistant.  The kids are really cute and had a wonderful time today parading and celebrating Halloween.  I stopped chemo Sept 15 and started Tamox on Oct 1st.  My Onc seemed to want to time Tamox with my period.  But, I was soo irregular and spotted so much on chemo I couldn't give an accurate answer about my period.  So, I think she just decided on Oct 1st.

  • bethen
    bethen Member Posts: 82
    edited October 2010

    This twice a day radiation is beginning to get tiring.  The first one is usually at 8 am and the second one has to be a minimum of 6 hours later.  Of course, it is usually later than that, anywhere between 3 and 5 pm.   At least now I am at the half way mark and on the down side.  Yeh!!!!!!!!!!!!  As far as my skin is concerned, I really do not have any pain but I do have lots of bumps that look like hives and my goodness are they itchy.  All I want to do it scratch scratch and scratch some more.  What does everyone use for the itching, my doctor told me to try Benydryl?  Hope everyone is doing good so far.

    Betsy (#2)

  • AICa
    AICa Member Posts: 64
    edited October 2010

    Ranafazal and Bethen - I had an itchy rash after about 10 treatments; my Rad Onc recommended 1% hydrocortizone OTC; that helped only a little; a friend suggested I get a prescription so I got 2.5% hydrocortizone; that helped a bit more but I was still waking up itching. Then my friend recommended prescription Topicort; it took some persuading but I got a prescription for generic. It's a miracle drug! The itching was gone that night, immediately. I put it on 3x daily (the directions said 2x daily). The rashy area cleared up significantly and doesn't itch. I've kept using it and noticed that area is significantly less red than other areas of my breast, where I'm using only aloe and Eucerin lotion. After 28 treatments, the rest of my breast is very red and uncomfortable; so yesterday I decided to try to using the Topicort on more of my breast. (I'd slather it on but it's a small tube.)

    I start 8 boosts next week. The Rad Onc marked the area and I was told it will be only one shallow burst (vs. 4 that I get now - 2 in 2 different directions).

  • hmh23
    hmh23 Member Posts: 306
    edited October 2010

    Joan; 

    What # are you on?  I just completed 15 of 33 and my skin especially around and under my armpit is tight and very red.  My rad onc came in to see it and he said it is normal at this point in my treatment.

    I too am tired and he said that also is expected.  I keep saying to myself, 'this too will pass', just as the nausea, the body aches, etc. 

    Have a great day.  Heather

  • hmh23
    hmh23 Member Posts: 306
    edited August 2013

    Betsy #2; 

    Ask your onc for hydrocortisone for the itchiness.I too have the red bumps which he says are hyper pigmentation of the skin and some itchy areas and that's what he gave me.  Helps a great deal. 

    Even though I am Canadian (live in the US) I'm not sure that I could handle the Canadian protocol (2xday).  How do you do it!

    Good luck, Heather

  • CT124
    CT124 Member Posts: 85
    edited October 2010

    JFV-I miss those days-mine are grown now.

    Bethen-I don't know how you are managing twice a day. Once a day is enough for me although I wish I could be done more quickly. I got the itchy bumps after my 2nd tx but they disappeared over weekend and have not come back. When will you be finished?

  • JFV
    JFV Member Posts: 795
    edited October 2010

    Heather-  I completed 15 of 30.  I am suprised the first 15  went as quickly as they did.  I am sorry to hear about the nausea.  That really is miserable.  I have dealt with body pain of one sort or another since my bilateral mastectomy.  I want to ask for a referral to a PT or OT.  But, I am sick and tired of doctors and their offices.  I am hoping once rads are over I can stretch and strengthen on my own.

    CT-  My daughter is 16 and plans on trick or treating all day tomorrow!  But, there is nothing better than a little kid all excited about Halloween.  They have such a delight in the dressing up and getting candy.  I want some of that kidn of happiness back in my life !

  • CT124
    CT124 Member Posts: 85
    edited October 2010

    JFV- have a wonderful time w your daughter. I really do miss those days-they went by too fast-although mine are in their 20's and are both putting their costumes together. My daughter still loves this holiday. Wow, you are at the half way point. I can't wait. I almost stopped tx on fri. There is just so much swelling and pressure w the expander in place. Had I known I needed RT would have done this differently. I had a lot of tightness and cording and some lymphedema. Went to OT-took me a couple of weeks to get script, but after a couple of visits it has improved remarkably. Am also doing an exercise class for BC pts-they use the Lebed method and that has also made a big difference. I couldn't agree with you more. I am so tired of being a patient.

  • joan888
    joan888 Member Posts: 810
    edited October 2010

    hmh/Heather.... I completed #18 on friday and have 9 left.  I am now seeing the first of any reaction at all.  It is just a rashy look and alot of new freckles on my upper chest.  My doctor says its the hyperpigmentation and will go back down once I finish the radiation.  Other than that, he says that my skin is holding up very well.  No tightness or anything.  I am feeling very fortunate.  I use alot of that yucky Aquaphor every night and also use that Special Care Cream alot during the day.  The rash is minimal so far and not at all itchy but I have decided to combine some Cortisone 10-Plus with the cream during the day.

    I didn't think that I was having any fatigue, but then I flew from Chicago to Seattle yesterday.  Stayed up late (Seattle time too) with my daughter and family.  Felt fine when I went to bed, but then slept in til 9am this morning.  OMG!  That is 11am in Chicago.  I think I must have slept 9-10 hours.  That is definitely not me.  We've been out trick or treating in the rain today and will be going all night having dinner at friends, making a big brunch tomorrow morning to host more family and then hopping on a flight back to Chicago in the afternoon.  I bet that I sleep all the way back.  Have to get back home for radiation on Monday.  What a short leash we are all on these days!! 

    I feel like it is beginning to wind down for me as I am in the single digits now.  Only 9 left.  I really, really hope that my skin does not break down too much more.  I still have my TE's and want to get them swapped out ASAP in the spring.

    Good luck to everyone in treatment.  Hang in there.

  • CT124
    CT124 Member Posts: 85
    edited August 2013

    joan888

    Cant wait to get into single digits-7 down and 18 to go. what is special care cream-is it available OTC. I am using aquaphor at night and aloe in day. hate aquaphor. Or was considering Miaderm.

    I am curious. How did you do w TEs. There is so much pssr on that side and swelling.  Did u experience that and if so, what did you do that helped. PS overexpanded before and after my last chemo, so only had a couple of weeks to let tissue adapt to that and then started RT. How long do you have to wait until exchange. Mine said 3 mo minimum but the longer I waited the better. I am hoping for 3 as I just want this to be done.

  • DesignerMom
    DesignerMom Member Posts: 1,464
    edited October 2010

    My RO is a huge believer in Aquaphor, the only thing he wants used. I protested as it feels like greasy bookpaste and has petroleum and mineral oil in it. He finally relented and allows me to use Aloe (only from a fresh plant or it has additives) and Calendula Cream from Boiron (Whole Foods). So far so good. Okay, I have a new weirdness. The top of my foot felt itchy yesterday and now has a bumpy rash. Now what? Is this from Rads? Chemo?

  • LtotheK
    LtotheK Member Posts: 2,095
    edited October 2010

    DesignerMom, that Calendula cream is awesome, hmmm....maybe I should think about that, too.  My feeling is, if you are bothering with Aquaphor, which is full of toxic junk, might as well use Biafine which is really highly rated and seems to work miracles. I'm using it, doing great.  But then again, I'm only about 16 in or so.

    As for rashy weirdness, I read that radiation also suppresses the immune system, so that combined with chemo can be wacky stuff.  I had water on the knee yesterday after walking (!!  I'm 40, come on, people!) and got those nutty shingles.  I think drinking tons of water and keeping a clean diet, and getting to the doc to clear any weirdness up ASAP is what we all need to be doing.  But this stuff does take a while to cycle out completely.  I still feel like every week is a new freaky surprise I'm not so thrilled with.

  • CT124
    CT124 Member Posts: 85
    edited October 2010

    designer mom and MHP70

    it does supress immune system. My counts were finally heading up after chemo and now wbc heading down again. RO says it is usually ab week 2 where if it is going to go down, will really happen. I am also loosing hair again. didn't lose all of it from chemo and was getting new growth as well as exisiting hair growing again and now it is falling out in clumps again. Life just stays interesting. I hate aquaphor-may pick up some of the cream you are using-asked RO about what they will allow. Initially was told only aquaphor, but last week was told these are all ok

  • BetsyP
    BetsyP Member Posts: 79
    edited October 2010

    Ok ladies i think i have a new one..... During the week i started getting what i thought was a pimple on my head or maybe a ingrown hair. It was a little irritating but no big deal. Yesterday morning i woke up with a bump on my head the size of a half an orange, it was red and hurt SO much. I called the onco that was on call because it was a weekend she say's don't worry probably just your new hair growth don't bother to go to the er wait until rads on Monday and have the nurse look at it.Well i could'nt sleep last night ,every time i moved on it it killed like it was on fire. I decided i would go to the er anyway because it really hurt. The er doc say's we have to cut it open because it looks infected. Pissa...so he shoots novacaine in my head,takes a knife,cuts it open and it hurt so much. He sticks a swab deep in there and tell's me i have mrsa! WTF. So now i have to shower 4 times a day to keep it clean and use that red stuff they give us before surgery to prevent mrsa. Did you all get that talk about mrsa before you had surgery? So now i have to call my onco in the morning and i want an explanation because you get it from the hospital.Web md say's that weakend immune systems are more likely to get it. Can there possibly be anything else we can catch. I am finnally getting back to work, i need money and i work with food so i won't be able to work until this goes away. They better fit me in. Sorry to ramble but i just want this to go away. I don't want any more surprises. I am so sick of this shit you know? If anyone else has had this please let me know because this is freaking me out. Oh bye the way Happy Halloween. Eat as much candy as you can!!

    xoxo

    Betsy P

  • LtotheK
    LtotheK Member Posts: 2,095
    edited October 2010

    Oh Betsy, that makes me sad and mad!  You do not deserve so much trouble, I am really, really hoping for everything to go smoothly in getting this better!!!  I have tons of pimples on my pathetic stubbly head, will keep a closer eye.

    No one said a danged thing about MRSA to me.

  • DesignerMom
    DesignerMom Member Posts: 1,464
    edited November 2010

    Betsy- I am so sorry. Did they actually test it to be sure it was MRSA? I would have a serious talk not only with your RO, but with someone in the hospital who is in charge of hospital infections. Ask if you can make a written complaint. Every hospital has a team that tries to prevent transmission of infections in the hospital. I have a feeling they need to look into their sterilization and cleaning. I find my own hospital truly lacking. During chemo, I refused to sit on the only chair in the blood drawing room because the fabric on the chair looked stained and filthy. I told the tech why when she insisted I sit. She actually insisted it was NOT dirty. I asked the supervisor why the chairs were upholstered in fabric that could not be cleaned. She basically said it was not her fault. When I worked in nursing 32 years ago, things were much cleaner. I know how filthy hospitals are, I can see it .....and the hospital does too, even if they won't admit it. By the way, the doctors are the worst offenders, they rarely wash their hands. Just watch them. Hoping you get it cleared up soon. I'm not sure about MRSA, but usually once you are on antibiotics for a few days, you can not spread an infection. Ask your doctor if there is any contraindication to your working with food.

  • AICa
    AICa Member Posts: 64
    edited November 2010

    She said, "You'll like it." Today's appointment was my first of eight boosts after 28 full rads. Before getting on the table, I asked the techs to explain exactly what was going to happen today. After telling me about the procedure and explaining that it was only one exposure, she said, "You'll like it." What a poor choice of words.I told her I would never like it; that I hated every second I was in the building from the time I walked through the entry doors.

    A friend I'd known for 24 years died of cancer in this hospital last week.His funeral is this afternoon.

  • BetsyP
    BetsyP Member Posts: 79
    edited November 2010

    Dear Desingermom

    i got a bit of a runaround with this infection today. First i called my onco who is on vaca this week and the on call onco said to call my primary care doc...What? i have not dealt with them since this all began. I got an appt with them in the morning. I went to my rads appt today and i had to tell the techs and they got all discombobulated but went ahead with the treatment but as soon as i was done they told me to go see the nurse. She was great. Pulled up my test results on the computer and only the preliminary results were in and it said "staph infection" that it would'nt have the final results until Tues morning. She explained that they need to no the strain in order to give me the proper antibiotics which makes sense to me.So here i sit with this infection in me and i feel crappy, very nauseus and my head hurts. It scares me to think my immune system is so compromised and this is making me sick. They told me not to go to work that while the wound is open i am very contagious so i am keeping it covered with gause and not sharing anything with my kids. Once i get this under control i will pursue the whole getting mrsa from the hospital. Wish me luck and i will let you know how i make out.

    Betsy

  • QCA
    QCA Member Posts: 1,539
    edited November 2010

    Ah, BetsyP, that just s*cks!  Isn't MRSA a form of staph?  My sister got MRSA while in the hospital for 5 months following a disastrous reaction to chemo, and actually everyone I've ever heard of getting it contracted it in the hospital environment.  Very frightening, indeed.  Please let us know what happens once they get the final report. 

    19 out of 30 done today--total time was 2 hours. I went back to "the room" for the treatment, had yet another x-ray, and it seems my marks had faded, so they sent me back to the waiting area, then had to go for another simulation and get remarked, (and scolded for letting the marks get wet, even though they're covered with a clear sticker!) then back to the waiting area, and finally another x-ray and the treatment.  Honestly!  I was so frustrated that I lay there on my back with tears pouring out.  

    AICa, I'm beginning to understand what you've been saying.  I've accepted the total loss of dignity and have tried to be the most co-operative patient I could be.  I lie down on the table for the treatments and bare my breasts (yes, both are bare!) willingly, just wanting to get it over with, but hell, I'm the one with breast cancer here!  So don't blame me if your stupid marks wear off after over 3 weeks!  I do bathe, and I religiously apply the aquaphor mess every night as directed.  My breast is a red rashy mess and I'm tired, so don't blame me!  

    Thank goodness for you all!  We know all of us can vent here and you will understand!

    This too shall pass---good wishes to all of us!

    Kathy

  • TMarina
    TMarina Member Posts: 692
    edited November 2010

    BetsyP--> Sorry about the infection!  Boy, the things some of us have to go through!  Keep us posted!  I'll be thinking of you!

    AIC-->Definitely poor choice of words!  She was probably just trying to be pleasant, but we never "like" being there. Sorry about your friend. :(

  • DesignerMom
    DesignerMom Member Posts: 1,464
    edited November 2010

    Betsy-  Glad you got an appointment with your regular doctor tomorrow.  I can't imagine that they don't put you on some kind of antibiotic right away, especially since you are probably immune suppressed.  I'm sure they are doing a culture and sensitivity from the sample they took.  If for some reason it shows that other antibiotics are more suitable, they can always switch your meds.  I hope your doctor gets you on some treatment quickly.

    QCA-  So sorry about your insensitive techs.  They are lucky it wasn't me!  I would have NO hesitation telling them that THEY put the marks there, it isn't MY job!  It is a given that you are going to bathe.  Perhaps they should do their job and reapply them more often!!  When pushed by stupid, insensitive hospital personell, I have actually said "I will gladly change jobs with you.  You can do my chemo, rads etc...I'll do your job."

    AICa-  I totally get what you mean about hating to be in the hospital.  I try to zone out about it.  Today I had to go up to the chemo floor to pick up copies of my records (which were not ready AGAIN because uncaring hospital personell!)  It was the first time I returned to the chemo ward and I felt like the wind had been punched out of me.  I wasn't expecting that.  I practically scurried back down to the radiation floor!

    Having said all this, I met with my RO today.  I adore him.  He is smart, sensitive, not only about the harshest treatments (even insinuated doctors may prescribe the big guns due to liability).  AND he is funny.  I got lucky!

  • hmh23
    hmh23 Member Posts: 306
    edited November 2010

    I was really lucky to be given a 'dignity robe' when I started radiation. I know the name is a bit corny but it allows the technicians to lift/open up one side while leaving the other breast covered.  It has velcro down each side and down the front. 

    I completed #16 of 33 today and my armpit is extremely red.  They gave me a cream used on burn victims called 'silverdeam(?)' or something like that.  I'm too lazy to get up right now to look at the tube...sorry.

    Like many of you, I feel somewhat swollen and my skin feels very tight.  This is getting old but the light is brighter at the end of the tunnel.

    Fondly, Heather

  • joan888
    joan888 Member Posts: 810
    edited November 2010

    Been out of town the past few days.... yes in the midst of this stuff, I did a quick weekend get-away to see my daughter and family in Seattle.  Of course, I had to rush right back for rad appt today.  Be soooo glad when I am done.  20 down/8 to go.

    CT124/Deb... I am still using that nasty Aquaphor every night.  The Special Care Cream is something that my RO office supplies "free of charge", LOL.  I think it is a general hospital cream but does seem to be doing the trick.  It is manufactured by company called Bard.  I have a little hyperpigmentation (new freckles) that just started a few days ago.  RO says they go away later.

    I still have my TE's and they haven't changed during radiation.  They already seemed pretty tight before starting radiation.  My PS would have preferred that I did one more expansion before radation but I just didn't have time and felt already expanded beyond what I was planning.  I think I was told a minimum of two months after radiation before I could have the exchange.  I plan to visit my PS in January and get an opinion about any further expansion and exchange timetable.  I was told to expect about a 3-week recuperation after the exchange so I have not figured out when I want to make time for that.  I have a friend who kept her TE's for almost a year after chemo and never even had radiation.

    Betsy....so sorry about your having to deal with that MRSA infection.  That is just not fair!!

    Heather...that "dignity robe" sounds like a great idea.  I am so thankful to have such wonderful female rad techs.  They have been so compassionate.  The RO is also great and that makes this whole experience much easier.  Several times I have witnessed former patients stopping by the office to say "hello" to the staff and get some hugs.  Is this strange?  I did get many referrals for this office before I started.  I guess they were right.

  • kickazz
    kickazz Member Posts: 19
    edited November 2010

    Hello- so I just started rads 10-20-10.  I thought radiation was going to b easy compared to chemo and surgery- but it has been horible.  The techs are so insensitive, i feel like a science experiment.  One day last week I was talking with one of the techs-  I was saying how breast cancer doesnt run in my family and I wasnt even due for a mamogram till age 40-  and she sai "I guess it is just bad luck".  I just felt like crying.  In fact the next day I was crying and they  ( the two techs) just acted as if I wasnt.  It was weird.  I feel better this week and not so emotional- but its just so scary and the unknown of what it is doing and long term effects.  Ugghh-  Its just so.... u have cancer feeling   

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