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  • Cerridwen
    Cerridwen Member Posts: 9
    edited October 2005
    Hi Everyone I hope you are doing great

    Susan thanks for your words I have a question, have you expirienced weakness n you chemo arm? now mine is completely weak is hard to move it and cant stretch it, is shrunken and swollen and if you touch my arm veins they are like stones.

    The chemo meds Im taking are : cyclophosphamide , epirubicin and another 2 that I dont remember.

    Take care all you
  • tornadogirl
    tornadogirl Member Posts: 133
    edited October 2005
    AM, sorry about thrombosis. What ELSE do we have to deal with, is not the BC and chemo and surgery enough already???

    And Cerri, call today your onc and get an appt with a physical therapist. You need to get that arm thing corrected. They will give you therapy or something for it. Something is wrong,...hang in there, but call them please.
  • susan_02143
    susan_02143 Member Posts: 7,209
    edited October 2005
    Hi all,

    Woke with some type of stomach distress today, and spent the day in bed. YUCK! I haven't spent a whole day in bed sleeping in years. I don't know if this is a residual side effect of the chemo or something else.

    Ceri... this doesn't sound right. I think you should talk to a doctor about your arm. I certainly had some bruising in my hand from the IV's and chemo infusions, but nothing like you describe.

    Sorry about all the hot flashes. For some reason my body threw me into menopause really young [at the same time they think my tumor started] and couldn't believe those flashes. My husband did joke that we saved money on heating our house in the evenings since my hot flashes could keep our entire bedroom warm!

    Tomorrow I have my meeting with the radiation oncologist and it turns out, they will also do the radiation mapping. So I guess I will be getting my tatoos. I am not looking foward to this at all. Since I am the first in the group to get to this stage, I will be sure to report back so you all know what is coming.

    *susan*
  • cazza61
    cazza61 Member Posts: 34
    edited October 2005
    hi susan
    I got bowel inflamation with chemo,it affected my tummy as well,all i could do for 24 hours was suck ice and drink water,try not to eat anything heavy just soups no ruffage at all white bread with the soup.
    love to all carol
  • Pegk
    Pegk Member Posts: 389
    edited October 2005
    Oh no! It seems as though demons are getting to a lot of you.

    Susan, was it too much partying yesterday? I hope you're feeling better soon.
    I'll be interested in your experiences with radiation. They haven't decided whether that will be part of my treatment or not. My tumors were removed by the mastectomy, but apparently one was close to the skin.

    Cerriden, I agree that you need to get your arm checked out as soon as possible.

    I haven't experienced hot flashes yet. I guess it's only a matter of time. With the price of oil this winter my husband could only hope that I'll help to heat the room.

    The good news I have to report is that the pain I felt for a couple of days after Taxol is gone now. I'm hoping I'll be feeling normal until the next tx. I'll cross that bridge when I get to it.

    I hope that you're all feeling better soon.
    Peggy
  • tinkermax
    tinkermax Member Posts: 269
    edited October 2005
    I have been having hot flashes for a couple of months now. I originally had Zoladex 3 monthly injection in August to stop estrogen production (before I had convinced onc I needed chemo, 2.1cm IDC).

    Now with chemo they are worse, its a case of bandanna on, bandanna off during the day, and covers on, covers off, during the night. The night sweats are really bad, I wake up absolutely cooking.

    Like you ladies, I too am saving on heating bills, haven't put the central heating on once yet this autumn, which is most unlike me.

    Take care ladies

    Maxine
  • susan_02143
    susan_02143 Member Posts: 7,209
    edited October 2005
    Carol, interesting. Guess a call to the nurse is in order. How are you feeling now? Your journey has been filled with hardships....

    Peggy, So glad to hear that your pain has subsided. Are you doing taxol weekly or bi-weekly? My friend in Seattle is doing weekly for 12 weeks. Can you imagine? Maybe your next tx will be easier; though I think your dogs probably enjoy the extra walks.

    Maxine, never knowing from moment to moment how many layers you need is the hard part. For about two years, I wore zillions of layers, pulling on and off constantly. My employees thought it was hysterical. I didn't.

    *susan*
  • hopeful1
    hopeful1 Member Posts: 54
    edited November 2005
    Hello All,

    I have had a rough time rebounding from my last chemo - but I believe I have finally turned the corner! Enjoyed a great Halloween with the kids last night. Had one minor problem in our neighborhood ... a not so bright 14 year old boy decided that a costume of only a jock strap and baseball cleats was a good idea. The local police didn't agree! Believe it or not - his mother saw nothing wrong with it and was upset the the police took him home.

    Marg - I am so sorry to hear about your ordeal. I agree with your decision to spend Halloween with your kids. My thoughts and prayers are with you.

    Susan - sorry about the delay in our cyber-celebration on completion of chemo! I'm happy to see that yours went well on Sunday. I think I'm finally feeling well enough to celebrate. It's been a rough few weeks for me. Keep me posted about your trip to the radiologist. My appointment is scheduled for the 7th. I did find out that I don't qualify for the Mammosite radiation - so I will be doing the traditional schedule as well.

    Carol - I have had problems with my tongue and my oncologist said it was a side effect of the chemo. The taste buds are included in the group of quickly reproducing cells that the chemo targets. Sometimes they get irritated and can cause pain and swelling. You might try the Biotene mouthwash - it does help a little. He did tell me it will work itself out - it just may take some time. I do think it is worth a mention to your doctor though.

    Bubbles - I love your chemo stories! I met a girl at my first treatment and we found out that we went to the same high school. She was several years ahead of me - but we had a great time talking about teachers and mutual people that we knew. We ended up laughing most of the time - loudly! The nurses put us together for the remainder of our treatments. On our last day - they told us that we were an inspiration because we had such a good time while we were there. They obviously don't get to see too much of that. Keep up the inspirational attitude!

    Best of luck to everyone having treatment this week!
  • joriesmom
    joriesmom Member Posts: 6
    edited November 2005
    Hi All,

    Although I haven't posted in a while I continue to read this thread to see how everyone is doing and keep up on the happenings in everyone's lives.

    Today I go for #4 of 4 for A/C. My half way point. I have gotten thru treatments pretty easily. The week after treatment, as long as I keep up on meds, I have only mild nausea. I take a Neulasta injection the day after treatment and the side effects of joint and bone pain have become easier to tolerate each cycle.

    I postponed treatment to today so I could trick or treat with my kids and we all had a nice time.

    Thank you all for being here for me when I needed some friends. Hope the rest of our treatments go speedily.

    Kris S
  • foxxf
    foxxf Member Posts: 171
    edited November 2005
    Hi to all,

    Sorry for the amount of time since my last update but our home phone has not
    been working for over a week now. Apparently a huge truck went past and took
    the phone line down. Needless to say my worst symptom this week has been
    internet withdrawals...lol

    I have so missed these boards, loging in here every day makes this so much easier to handle. I don't know what I would do with out you all.

    I had treatment 3 on Friday 28th Oct and it went well. I noticed after no 2
    that if the nurse does the dosage slower the after effects are greatly
    reduced. I asked for a slow push this time and was hardly sick at all, also
    I got on to the Dr about the other anti nausea meds and didn't have to go to
    the hospital this time either. so all round doing well.


    Nicole
  • txred9876
    txred9876 Member Posts: 392
    edited November 2005
    It has been a few days since I posted...this by far has been the easiest treatment yet...maybe all that exercise helped the bone pain (sure did not have it as bad)...I have been pretty tired yesterday and today though...

    If all goes as planned I will have my last AC on nov 23rd then on to surgery...

    I am watching a slight fever (i hope it does not go any highter...I do not want to end up in the hospital again...)

    Good luck to all of you...
    Tina
  • cazza61
    cazza61 Member Posts: 34
    edited November 2005
    hi all
    last dose of a/c yesterday and im feeling alot better then i have all the other times,guess they got the meds right this time,got a mouth wash for my tongue and it is feeling alot better now,I can actually eat without pain.
    hope everyone is doing good
    love to all carol
  • susan_02143
    susan_02143 Member Posts: 7,209
    edited November 2005
    I have posted my radiation mapping experience on the Fall nookenboobies thread for those of you who are interested:
    http://www.breastcancer.org/ubbthreads/s...SID=#Post205747

    It turns out that I too can not do the clinical trial for the mammosite due to a close margin. Oh well..... Didn't have anything better to do for the next 7 weeks!!!

    *susan*
  • susan_02143
    susan_02143 Member Posts: 7,209
    edited November 2005
    Hopeful, sorry that you too are having a harder time rebounding from the final chemo. I did the party anyhow since I had sent invitations, but I am not regaining my gastric balance or energy as quickly as I wanted to.

    Kris, great to hear an update from you, and how wonderful that you were able to enjoy halloween with the kids.

    Nicole, no internet access is like a punishment!!! I can't imagine a week with no contact with the outside world. How did you manage?

    Tina, wow! This is wonderful that you are finding the treatments easier to manage. I need to get back to my 2 miles a day walks... good for my mind and body.

    Carol, and same for you. Terrific that you are finding this round easier. Pain and eating should never be in the same sentence!

    A jock strap and cleats? How funny is this? Thank you so much for the laugh. Almost as good as having Bubbles at chemo with you. :-)

    *susan*
  • tornadogirl
    tornadogirl Member Posts: 133
    edited November 2005
    LOL, Peg how is the Taxol going? I just went and spoke with an outside (my health plan) onc and they told me to take 10 MG of L-Glutamine three times a day. And 50 MG Vit B6, and some B12. This is way more than bodybuiders take but it is supposed to help with acheys. I have cleared it with my health plan onc.



    She also told me that Ibuprophin was better than stronger drugs to help with any bone/muscle pain. Who knows why this is.



    If you get pins and needles in your hands and feet and it does not go away by your next treatmemt, you are to tell your onc so they can lower the dose, switch to taxotere or cancel the next couple treatments or go to another agent.



    Good Luck, I will be getting my first Taxol on nov 10th.



    Just some more ideas for you.
  • nmherr
    nmherr Member Posts: 63
    edited November 2005

    Peg, Thanks for updating us on the taxol treatments. I would like to know how your eating is going. I am down 7 pounds from my last E/C treatment and need to desperately put that back on. Do you have the bad taste or the sore mouth? I want to enjoy food again.

  • sholroyd
    sholroyd Member Posts: 288
    edited November 2005
    Went to post this last night but I lost my Internet connection for whatever reason – panic. I was able to reconnect today thankfully………


    Mapping, tattoos, Mammosite radiation (what is this??) – what have I got to look forward to then? Will follow your progress Susan and Hopeful1! Sometimes the different terminology used in the different areas throws me somewhat. Susan I was really sorry to read you felt yukky, yet you still came on the board to put us all at ease and to keep us updated with your radiation mapping experience, thanks!!

    Cerriden – I hope you get your arm sorted – I am sure it is not thrombosis like I had (from Hickman line) but I can relate to the discomfort you must be feeling – we don’t need this ‘extra’ stuff!

    Peggy – good you are relatively pain free at the moment – chin up and just enjoy the moment rather than think of the next time. Is it in order to put a piccie of your dogs on Fumi’s bald site – or would this be ‘diverting’ too much?

    Maxine I couldn’t believe that you needed to ‘convince’ onc you needed chemo??

    Hi Kris S – glad you enjoyed ‘trick or treat’ – was it ‘respectable’ in your neighbourhood then?

    Well I have felt reasonably good yesterday and today, albeit the usual tiredness. A bit of history about me - I used to wear a hearing aid around 10 years ago until a wonderful surgeon took a vein out of my hand and put in my ears to correct conductive deafness (ears operated on 18 months apart) so yesterday before I went shopping with my daughters, I visited yet another hospital for my yearly hearing check, which isn’t 100% but certainly means I get by very well without a hearing aid and my hearing test showed it hadn’t deteriorated, so some good news.

    Keep up the inspirational attitude – yeah that’s what we have to do girls.

    Speak soon.

    Sandra from the UK
  • Calico
    Calico Member Posts: 1,108
    edited November 2005
    Hi all,
    hope you continue to do better!!
    I am still nauseated most of the time, keep eating, gained 5 pounds by last appointment

    Enjoyed Halloween (yes, I was G.I.Jane, wore hubby's old green mil. uniform and smeered brown eye shadow in my face, kids loved it. My husband wore the wig instead, brown long hair, he looked like a hippee leftover from Woodstock.
    Made a mistake of eating candy, yuck, didn't agree with me.

    Will check on you in a few days again, towards the end of two weeks I feel usually better just to get hammered again with dose # 4 on Tuesday.

    Keep your spirits up!!

    God Bless
  • Liezel
    Liezel Member Posts: 192
    edited November 2005
    Hope you are all getting better. I am having chemo #3 on Friday. Had blood test to check white cell count yesterday. Just can not get used to all the needles - am I imagining it or is it getting worse every time. Maybe I must speak to my onc about a port...

    Our local Cancer Association is having a Shavathon this weekend. People can either shave their heads or colour their hair green in support of Cancer Patients. Should be fun. I'll be able to walk around without hat or scarf for the weekend and not feel alone! Probably won't feel like going out though. The first few days after chemo is a bit hazy....

    Have a good weekend! Get some rest and do something special for yourselves.
  • Pegk
    Pegk Member Posts: 389
    edited November 2005
    Okay Sandra,
    here's a picture of one of my dogs, Yodel. There is now a picture of both of them on the Bald Picture Site. For those of you who have not gotten your password yet, why wait. Not only can you see my dogs, but also many beautiful bald women with their families, amd better yet, those whose hair is coming back. Send a PM to Timtam (Fumi) and she'll tell you what to do.

    We got Piper, the black dog, from a local shelter after we moved out of the city and into a house. They told us she was spayed. Two weeks later, Yodel was born (and another puppy who died). I guess they thought we were suckers, but we've never regreted having 2 dogs.

    Cats, dogs, horses-a lot of us are using pet therapy to help us through tough times. Anybody else want to give their pets a shout out for their unconditional love and support?
    Peggy
  • Pegk
    Pegk Member Posts: 389
    edited November 2005
    Carol, Congratulations on your last A/C! What's next?

    Susan, Keep us posted on the rads. Looks like that's where I'll be in Jan.

    Sandra, Great news about your hearing check up.

    Cali, I would love to see a picture of you and your husband in costume. I'll bet you made a great couple.

    Leizel, what a great idea for a festival! I'm not sure I would want green hair, but I guess it's better than being bald. Someday we'll have a choce again.

    Bubbles, Norine, so far, so good with Taxol. No problems after those few achey days, and I've been proscribed something a little stronger. No mouth problems.
    One more hurdle though-I've been asked to go back for another blood test today. It seems as though something in my blood is elevated that they want a retest. I may be scheduled for a sonogram of my liver. What that means-I don't know. Of course, I'll let you know what happens.
    Hope all is well with all of you!
    Peggy
  • lynellb123
    lynellb123 Member Posts: 69
    edited November 2005

    Hi All, I've been following along on the boards and hope everyone is feeling okay today. I had my first treatment of Taxol, followed by a shot of Neulasta. Feeling a bit achy from the shot, or maybe the Taxol. The Onc. said that day 4-5 would bring some bone pain. The good news is that I didn't feel at all nausesous and that I have only 3 more chemo treatments to go. My last treatment is scheduled for the day before my birthday. I have an appointment with my surgeon the next day, which is on my birthday. Hopefully I'll feel like celebrating. Wishing everyone well....

  • susan_02143
    susan_02143 Member Posts: 7,209
    edited November 2005
    Just a quick note to bump us back to the first page. Clearly as we all move farther along in our treatments, fatigue has set in. I am concentrating on family, friends, and trying, once again, to work. Someone needs to make the December mortgage payment!

    During my treatments, I have become very close to two other women with breast cancer. Each of us has a very different diagnosis, different ways of coping... we are different ages, and yet, our daily emails have been extremely important to me. They have become close and dear friends. Since they both live in Seattle, and I don't, it made sense for me to try to schedule a visit. I have found a dirt cheap flight this weekend! So, I am heading West for three days of friendship!

    Slipping in this trip between chemo and radiation is just a blessing. Another celebration, only this time I don't need to cook. :-)

    Hope everyone is well.

    *susan*
  • txred9876
    txred9876 Member Posts: 392
    edited November 2005
    Well even though I am feeling ok....my blood work came back...at white cell count 300....full precautions...they think the neulasta shot will kick in but the main thing is to watch for fever.

    Its kind of frustraiting...just when I thought this round would allow me to at least go to the office some...

    Tina
  • susan_02143
    susan_02143 Member Posts: 7,209
    edited November 2005
    Tina,

    Let's hope that your white blood count rises quickly so you can at least visit the office; and maybe get a little work done too. Take care,

    *susan*
  • tinkermax
    tinkermax Member Posts: 269
    edited November 2005
    Susan
    I hope you have a lovely trip....Just what the doctor ordered, a good time with ladies who know how you feel and what you are going through.

    Tina
    So sorry your blood count is so low...hopefully the neulasta shot will do its job..

    I had my flu jab yesterday, without any side effects....YIPPEE

    I still have some prickly hair on my head, about 10% of normal growth...and its white...hope it doesnt all come back that colour. Pubic hair is about 40% still there and my leg hair is still growing, slowly, but still growing none the less!

    Sandra
    Yes onc was reading my pathology wrong, he was looking at results of mastectomy without adding the lumpectomy to the results, the cancer was cut in half with lumpectomy so the two cancers needed to be added together...I had to argue with him and get him to check with pathology before he believed me. Just as well the surgeon knew what he was doing and told me the cancer was 2.1cm in total otherwise I wouldn't be having chemo.

    I hope everyone has a good weekend

    Maxine
  • tinkermax
    tinkermax Member Posts: 269
    edited November 2005
    Peggy

    Love the picture of you and your dog...so sweet.

    Maxine
  • Constantlyhope-2005Aug10
    Constantlyhope-2005Aug10 Member Posts: 14
    edited November 2005
    Here's a report from another MIA. I've been feeling so low, but reading all your reports whether of valiant victories or fighting the monster (which is still valiant victory, right?), I continue to feel inspired and supported.

    I fought undescribable, horribly painful constipation from my 3rd treatment. Luckily another sufferer had asked for support and I used that info for some relief. First though I had to go see my nurse so she could do unmentionable things. It just seemed to add insult to injury: all I felt or cried is how I could lose more dignity than this?

    Anyway, this weeek I had my 4th and final ac, and it's the first time I've experienced bigtime nausea. That was on Wed and today, I'm feeling a little better. The good news is my red blood cell count and something else was way down, so for the first time, I received a procrit shot. WOW, did that make an improvement in my energy. I've been taking the nuelasta since the beginning, but the procrit really helped. I feel good once more, even a little energetic sometimes.

    I told my onc all my fears about Taxol. She wants to put me on a regimen of 5 days of decaudron and benadryl after I take the taxol and of course the dec the day before. She said body pain is the body's allergic reaction and those drugs will alleviate it. I don't know. I'm scared both of the decaudron and the pain.
    Peg, since you've been our first to do Taxol, would you tell me again exactly what meds you're taking with it? And any other taxol takers? So much decaudron worries me.
    Susan, I understand you're not taking taxol and the reasons why. I'm just curious. Are you stage 1 with no lymph node involvement?
    Maxine, you look way too young for white hair to be growing in, but I know it's beautiful whatever it is. Mine is still in the falling out stage.
    Bubbles, I love all your stories. They make me feel better, too. We each have our own little cubicle where I do chemo, but I don't think I'd be much good at spreading cheer. Anyway about the hot, cold thing. I read somewhere that it's a result of the steroids, specifically decaudron. I experience them as well, and I'm almost 52 yet I'm still having light periods every 28 days. I don't really want to have the abrupt menopause that I'm likely to experience, but the funny thing is I'm cold, very cold, most of the time.

    And Leanne, congratulations and best wishes for your wedding. What a happy story for our September Sisters! Your children are adorable.

    Speaking of children, how are everyone's taking this whole thing? I have a wide age range from 4 to 24, so I have varied experiences. One thing is it's brought us all closer together , especially the 13 year old daughter who actually helps a little. I homeschool her so she's often around anyway, but before she was a little distant. My 4 yr old is rolling with the punches, but to say she understands anything is an understatement. Luckily, I haven't been too sick. My college age and older children give me the hope to go on. I love the stories they tell me. We don't spend too much time talking about the trenches of chemo life,and my one son attends college too far away to have been home since the summer. I am so looking forward to Thanksgiving: I just hope and pray I won't be suffering with too much bone pain from Taxol.
    Good luck to all,
    CD
  • susan_02143
    susan_02143 Member Posts: 7,209
    edited November 2005
    ConstanceDiane,

    So good to hear from you again! I am so sorry that your time has been so difficult. Yes, we loose much of our dignity during all of this don't we? But, you can't live with major constipation. Clearly you did the right thing to get some help.

    I am staged at IIa, no nodes, some vascular activity. My understanding is that if I had had a dirty node, my Doctor would have insisted on the Taxol portion of the protocol.

    I am doing 25 rads, plus 8 boosts, and then will be on an aromatese inhibitor for at least 5 years.

    My 19-year old daughter has much experience segmenting her life, and while she is at college I don't think that she spends too much time thinking about my breast cancer. When she does, she gets a little despondant. It is best that she focus on school, and not on me. It is what I have encouraged. She did come home during my chemo treatments, and I confess that I hid as much of my discomfort from her as possible.

    I too am looking forward to Thanksgiving when Lauren will be home with several 'orphaned' friends.

    *susan*
  • tornadogirl
    tornadogirl Member Posts: 133
    edited November 2005
    TX, hang in there, did they give you neupogen shots?

    CD. I understand the constipation. I feel i may need anal surgery after all this chemo is over. Every morning i feel like giving birth at each BM. 8 stool softeners and 8 glasses of water often is not enough so i have tried to change my diet to include baked beans every day and lots of veggies and fruits. I go overboard the other way sometimes and get painful diareah. Last night i took a chance and had tacos for dinner. This morning i might be SORRY I did that.

    Our bowels are all messed up from the chemo and other drugs and i cant WAIT until they get a little back to normal. I am 8 days past my 4th AC and they are still messed up. I have like 10 hemmoroid relief things and many laxatives, etc. Nothing helps alot....yet. I feel that until my poor body is able to start healing (once the chemo is outta my system killing the fast growing cells) that i will just have to put up with the pain and bleeding every morning. I am literally afraid to go to the bathroom! It is too painful.

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