Have you had a recurrence after Herceptin or are you still NED?

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  • Estepp
    Estepp Member Posts: 6,416
    edited March 2009

    Egal, thank you for sharing your story.

    I have a question if I may. Did you have a brain MRI before your chemo,surgery and rads, or after?

    Thank you!

  • lexislove
    lexislove Member Posts: 2,645
    edited March 2009

    suemed.....

    I did not have anything after Herceptin but I did have a CT scan after finishing chemo.I only had this because I wanted it. My onc said ok just to calm me down. I'm not sure if its standard procedure or not

  • irish9085
    irish9085 Member Posts: 5
    edited October 2010

    Last week I was diagnosed with recurrence in left armpit (axillary) area.  I took Herceptin as part of my treatment plan (lumpectomy, radiation via Mammosite, chemo, Herceptin, and Arimidex) when originally diagnosed with infiltrating ductal carcinoma in 6/06.   I see my oncologist in two weeks for find out treatment plan this time around.

  • my2boys
    my2boys Member Posts: 339
    edited October 2010

    Diagnosed stage 2B in August of 2008.  Bilateral Mx in Sept. 2008.  Chemo and finished my one year of herceptin in October of 2009.  Noticed a bump in the skin the following month.  After several trips to the doctor it was diagnosed as a local recurrence in February....4 months after completing herceptin.

    Just completed second round of chemo and now I am on Herceptin/Tykerb combo.  I am told that this combo is "kick ass".  This time around I am undergoing radiation as well.  Hoping this does the trick.  I am tired.....very tired.

    I want you ladies to know that all is not lost if herceptin doesn't work.....we now have Tykerb.  I take it every evening before bedtime and it goes to work fighting while I sleep. 

  • Estepp
    Estepp Member Posts: 6,416
    edited October 2010

    My2boys........ did you have ANY node involement the first time around?

  • orange1
    orange1 Member Posts: 930
    edited August 2013

    Irisih9085 -

    Not knowing the whole story, I hesitate to post this but after checking out the mammosite web site, I feel like I have to:

    The Mammosite guidelines say that Mammosite should only be used for node negative patients.  It appears from your signature that you have positive nodes.  Do you know why your docs (rad onc and surgeon) elected to give you mammosite instead of traditional radiation? 

    It makes sense that you could have had a local recurrence in your armpit because you had cancer there, but did not receive radiation to sterilize (kill all cancer cells) in that area.

    If your surgeon onc and rad onc cannot give you a convincing explanation of why you got Mammosite instead of traditional radiation, I'd find a new ones.  Also a lawyer.

    Good luck to you.

    http://www.mammosite.com/physicians/radiation-therapy/patient-selection.cfm

  • Lauriesh
    Lauriesh Member Posts: 692
    edited October 2010

    I was originally diagnosed 3/05 with stage 2, 2+ nodes. er/pr-, Her2+   I did 12 taxol with Herceptin, then a year of Herceptin that I finished in 5/06.

    I was diagnosed with mets to my liver July, 2010.  The mets  are still Her2+, so I am back on Herceptin, with Taxotere and Carboplatin.

    Laurie

  • mmm5
    mmm5 Member Posts: 1,470
    edited October 2010

    Laurie 

    We wish you good luck with your treatment! Did you do Carbo the first time around? I did Carbo (same routine you have now) and it was hard on the white counts so make sure they are checking those and giving you neulasta if needed What grade was your original bc and has that changed?

  • Lauriesh
    Lauriesh Member Posts: 692
    edited October 2010

    No, I didn't do carbo the first time. Just AC, then taxol/ Herceptin.

    My cancer was grade 3 in 05, and I don't think it has changed. My onc said that the pathology was the same as before, but didn't specifically mention the grade.

    Laurie

  • Bold
    Bold Member Posts: 692
    edited October 2010

    Coming up to three years since diagnoses. Finished herceptin 1 year ago Dec. Still dancing with NED. Still nervous and grateful at the same time. Still have fatigue. Not myself yet. Can you believe it?

  • sheila888
    sheila888 Member Posts: 25,634
    edited October 2010

    I finished Herceptin September of 2006.

    My last check up with my oncologist was yesterday.

    So far so good.Smile

  • suemed8749
    suemed8749 Member Posts: 1,151
    edited October 2010

    Four years, Seyla - that's wonderful! Congratulations!

    Laurie - So sorry about the liver mets. Hope chemo kicks cancer butt for you.

    It'll be 3 years for me in January. I'm in the Neratinib trial, so I see the onc or PA every 3 months (just got home from an appointment), and all is well so far (at least as far as I know.)

    Bold puts it well - "Still nervous and grateul at the same time."

  • Estepp
    Estepp Member Posts: 6,416
    edited October 2010

    Laurie... you have a close DX to myself.. I had more nodes......

    I am SO surprised you were not dx with liver mets before 2010. Four years after Herceptin stopped. This is unusual and JUST NOT NOT NOT FAIR! I hope that your cocktail will continue to work for a lifetime..... XXXOOO

  • my2boys
    my2boys Member Posts: 339
    edited October 2010

    Estepp,

    Yes, my original diagnosis was 2 nodes positive out of more than 20.  The recurrence was in the skin.  Hoping to be done with treatment soon.  

    Anne

  • Estepp
    Estepp Member Posts: 6,416
    edited October 2010

    Anne.. with 2 nodes positive... WHY did they not want you to do rads the first time around? GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR I would be REALLY mad about now if I were you. i was like you..

    I did not want to do rads.. I fought them..... BUT... my oncos would not even give me the herceptin in three week doses UNTIL I said yes to rads. I told then NO... and they told me.... YES.

    So... I either did what they wanted me to do... or I find an entire new staff of doctors..... So... I did rads.

    Did your doctors tell you WHY they did not have you do the rads two yrs ago???

    YOU ARE ON A GREAT cocktail and Tykerb is AMAZING!!!! My dear friends came back... and she is NED now for two more years.. SO I KNOW YOU ARE GOING TO KICK BUTT Too..... just hate that your doctors did not tell you to do the rads........ HANG IN THERE... you can do this too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • redninrah
    redninrah Member Posts: 773
    edited November 2010

    this thread is reassurig, i have just had my 2nd herceptin with my chemo, i will be finished chemo in nov, but have the herceptin for a yr

  • indeed
    indeed Member Posts: 2
    edited November 2010

    Completed one year of herceptin June 2008 after AC, taxol, recurrance in armpit node January 2009.  Did 6 rounds of oral chemo, now onco insists I will be on herceptin for remainder of my life.  Had new port installed and have now been going every three weeks for treatment with no end in sight... not sure if this case is recurrance or metastatic.  Since had first pet show hot spot in hilar chest lymph node, onco says metastatic-all tests say clear since that first pet scan... possibly Rheumatoid flare in chest or sarcoid???  History of RA and autoimmune syndrome.  Feel pretty good considering : )  Happy and well most of the time!  But not happy with using herceptin...actually kinda angry about it!

  • weety
    weety Member Posts: 1,163
    edited November 2010

    Why did you have herceptin if your tumor was HER2-?

  • my2boys
    my2boys Member Posts: 339
    edited November 2010

    Estepp,

    I did not do rads the first time around because I opted for the bilateral mx instead.  It is not too common to have a recurrence after a bilateral mx, but I was one of the "uncommon" ones.  I consulted two different oncologists and went with Memorial Sloan-Kettering.  They were both in agreement that I did not need rads, unless I didn't have the mx.  It wasn't that I didn't want them, it was more like they weren't recommended, so I didn't ask for them.  I'm not mad at all.  In fact I am grateful that my doctors are doing everything they can to prevent further recurrence.  I really feel like I am in the best hands.  It try not to play "shoulda, coulda, woulda" because I can't change the past, so I just make the best of what I am dealing with right now. 

    I am almost done with rads, so I'm glad it is behind me.  I am managing with the Tykerb/Herceptin combo.  Hoping it will do the trick this time around......sometimes I am just very tired of all of this.

    Thanks for the encouragement.

    Anne

  • Estepp
    Estepp Member Posts: 6,416
    edited November 2010

    Anne, I understand! My doctor were SO the opposite of yours. They told me.. even with my mast.... if I had any nodes +.... rads were in my future. They told me it was because of two things..

    1....being Her2

    2. ... being  young.

    You cannot look back.... and it sounds like these doctors are helping you KICK cancer forever.... DONE DONE DONE !

    Please check in from time to time.... to let us know how GOOD you are doing!

    XXXOOO

  • cyalata
    cyalata Member Posts: 19
    edited December 2010

    jerseymaria, I was wondering why you can't take tykerb or xeloda?  I had bc in 11/08 finished chemo 4/09, radiation 7/09, and herceptin in 12/09. I was feeling fantastic but had a dry cough for a couple months, after a chest x-ray, ct scan, & bronchoscopy, it was discovered my ca was in my lung & trachea! I was shocked. Anyway, I just started taking Tykerb & Xeloda & am  praying it will do the trick. Just curious why you can't take Tykerb and Xeloda? Gail

  • 3daywalker
    3daywalker Member Posts: 54
    edited December 2010

    Herceptin seems to be a miracle drug. I was given herceptin right when it became available to early stage and has worked so far with only a small glitch, heart murmur. Almost 6 years out swollen lymph nodes have been detected in my upper and inner thigh area, multiple areas. I am hoping this isn't a recurrance, biopsy next week. I was told that it is not true that after 5 years you are free and clear, but trials only are measured up to 5 years, so no one really knows what to look for after that time period. Unfortunately I have also been DX with an autoimmune disease so this does compromise my situation, so keep the chins up and look for a bright future!

  • RebzAmy
    RebzAmy Member Posts: 322
    edited December 2010

    Hi Mitch and all

    Diagnosed June 2007 had chemo first then mastectomy in Nov 2007 followed by rads and completed Herceptin in November 2008. Had my check up with oncologist a few days ago and NED. I also had a CT scan back in March which was clear. My oncologist said that most younger women with my diagnosis and treatment, if they are going to have a recurrence will do so in the first year or so and then the chances of this happening decline.

    x

  • 3daywalker
    3daywalker Member Posts: 54
    edited January 2011

    Estepp,  Hi, I also chose not to do Rads but because I was too excited to get  my new boobs! Yeah may have made a mistake but Dr.s said it was my choice. What stage were you? Grade of tumor? That could be why they sort of made you do Rads.

  • melania
    melania Member Posts: 117
    edited January 2011

    I hope that this Herceptin drug will do the trick for us, i am doing chemo before surgey , my onc told me i will have radiation after surgery, I wanna do doublle mastectomy and i was wondering if u do reconstruction at the time of mastectomy can u have rads on implants????

    3daywalker hi ! my surgeon tells me that u can have rads on new boobs but my onc told me to talk to radiation onc and plastic surgeon.I am wonering if the rads can work on implants ??

    Any idea??

  • TriciaK
    TriciaK Member Posts: 362
    edited January 2011

    Still NED five years on and had the works!!!!:)

    Tricia x

  • Estepp
    Estepp Member Posts: 6,416
    edited January 2011

    Here was my dx

    3cm tumor.... 1-3 node +.... grade 3..... er/pr- her2+

  • Letlet
    Letlet Member Posts: 1,053
    edited January 2011

    Hi melania, I had a R mastectomy with tissue expanders. My exchange surgery is on Feb 28th after which I will receive radiation. My PS actually preferred me getting the radiation with the implants in already, not the other way around. Hope this helps.

  • Denny123
    Denny123 Member Posts: 1,886
    edited January 2011

    Update. 8 year survivor of Stage 4 with liver mets.

    7 years remission and on Herceptin for life.

  • 3daywalker
    3daywalker Member Posts: 54
    edited January 2011

    Well, I had bilateral mast. They removed the old and put tissue expanders in to expand the muscle and keep the tissue stretched until I could have the implants put in, I went with silicone gel implants. I really like them alot, went from an A cup to a C, woo hoo. About the rads, I suggest you do it, I didn't and wish now I had cuz I will be on Arimidex for 10 years instead of 5. The rads interfere with the time in which you can have the implant surgery because rads mess up the skin and sometimes can burn you, it really makes the skin very sensitive and they don't like to do surgery until it is healed really well, we were looking at another year before the surgery could be done and I was sick of the expanders, they hurt and made me look like a line backer. Tram flap was out not enough fat tissue, I argued with him on that one but he won. haha Hope all goes well for you!

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