Preventive Mastectomy
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I had PBM on feb 22. I feel great-both post-surgically and about my decision to have the surgery. I have 2 more weeks before I go back to work but physically feel like I could go back today. My decision was made based on mom & both sisters having had bc, and my having several lumpectomies in the past. I know it was just a matter of time before I got the call. I have breastcancer.org to thank for providing TONS of information about the surgery as well as other sites to read so I could do as much research as possible before I made the decision. I'm certain I made the right decision for me (54 years old, gay, not using them anymore, and not wanting the risk to dance over my head any longer.
Plese feel free to contact me if you are considering this surgery and want/need moral support or information in general.
Deb
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I forgot one comment I wanted to make to anyone contemplating this surgery - in the research I had done, I looked at post-surgical pictures to see what the scars might look like. When I talked to my surgeon, I forgot to ask him about it, so post-op I was very surprised to find my incision begins about 2 inches past my armpit on the right to about 2 inches past my left armpit. it goes straight across my chest. of course, when I saw the surgeon I asked him why the incision was like it is, and he said because my breast were so large to bigin with (46DD), and to get all the breast tissue (no lymph nodes), it was the best way to do it.
I'm not unhappy with the was it is, but be sure to ask before the surgery!!
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I had BM with expanders on Feb 26, I have only had I expansion so far. The pain and general discomfort was more than I could ever have prepared for. I have a strong family Hx of BC Mom X2, sister, and grandmother, and I tested postitive for BRCA2 gene last september. I knew before I received my results that if positive I would go for the surgery. I am just beginning to feel some normalcy again after three weeks. I am anxious about my next expansion on Monday 3/24.
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SMS
How are you feeling now? Have had/scheduled the ooph?
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I can relate to many of you. I have a family history of cancer. My mother and a sister died from it. Two of my sisters have had profilactic mastectomies because of fibrocystice disease and numerious cacifications. Two aunts died from it and several cousins have had it all on my mother's side. I may have the genetic marker, but I am resistant to have the test due to the invasion by Insurance companies and others if the results are positive. Two different doctors I have been with have suggested the procedure and after a recent scar and an huge biopsy, I have decided to follow through with it. I had a biopsy for Pre-DCIS about 6 years ago and the fear that I face daily is not worth keeping my breasts. I am very scared and I know it is going to be tough as I am 60 and recovery is not the same as someone in their 30's or 40's. For the gal who wonders if the doctor will perform it and if the insurance will cover it, generally it is all about risk factor. Others have mentioned getting genetic testing, and that is an option, however, if you do not want to do this, a strong family history, pre-cancer conditions, such as numerous calcification sites and fibrocystic breasts is usually enough to justify doctors agreeing to surgery. Once a doctor agrees to do the procedure, having him or her write a letter stating the reason for having the surgery,will usually be enough for insurace companies to cover it. Does anyone know about hemmorage with this kind of surgery?
MB
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Deb, thanks for writing about your experience. I am in a state of fear, just waiting to decide to call my surgeon to set up a surgery date. My history is similar to yours and I am 60. I worry about hemorage as i hemoraged during my biopsy in January. Were you able to stay in the hospital over night or for a day or two? I have been told by my reconstuction doctor that because being very overweight I would have a lot of loose skin to contend with if they used the skin sparing surgery. What did you decide to do with this? Was there a lot of pain following? Are you able to use your arms freely? How was sleep? Did you have to sleep on your back or sleep up in a chair? Are you going to have implants or another procedure, or did you get implants at the time of your surgery? Thanks for your response.
MB
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I don't remember how many biopsies/lumps I had over the years. 6-8-10 something like that. Anyway, this last one was cancer. By the time they were done with the diagnosis, they had found 2 more in the same breast. I had a positive family history, but tested negative for brca. Tried the lumpectomy, but didn't get clear margins. Went the route of bil mast with TRAM reconstruction and am SO happy with my decision. For the first time in many, many years I don't fear breast cancer. My aunt had a lumpectomy at the same time I had my mastectomy. Today they found a lump in her other breast. I just could not have dealt with that again. Not after the cancer. I'd had enough. It's a rough decision. Best wishes to you.
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No one has posted on this thread for months, but it seems the best place to ask my ?.
I had preventative double mastectomies ten days ago. the path report came back totally normal. that is, of course, wonderful news that I have no new cancers to deal with. (I had IDC in 2003 and that path report showed atypical cells in the lobes. Not to mention TN, high grade comedo-necrotic and not picked up on mammo)
So I am left with this disturbing question. did I jump the gun? I was full expecting that path report was going to show breasts filled with DCIS and pre-cancerous cells. I also expected that there would be lobular hyperplasia.
So I am thrilled with my path report, but could I actually be a woman who gave up her breasts for no reason? Let me emphasize that two BS and one oncologist both considered me at high risk for recurrence. My husband is more than a little annoyed that I keep obsessing over this. Maybe ten, twenty yrs from now I would have developed bc. sorry to bother people with such a stupid problem. I'm usually more confident in my decision-making but this blew me away and I had to ask someone. I will see the oncologist in Dec so we will review it then.
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Eileen,
It's definitely not a stupid problem! You have every right to be ambivilant about having had a preventive mastectomy. You removed two healthy breasts - but isn't that what you sought to do in the first place? Keep the cancer from returning? Maybe you thought that your suspicions would be validated by a path report that showed that the cancer was coming back, but I think you did the right thing! I can relate to that because I've had the very same thoughts! I had my left breast removed in Jan 2009 & I too am considering a prophylactic mastectomy because I'm high risk and I don't trust any of the diagnostic tools that they use on me. I have dense breasts, was HER2 + and the mammogram (several years w/o any problems) and ultrasounds, even the MRI failed to show the true extent of my 4.6 cm tumor. During all this time since my mastectomy, I've been mulling over how I'd really feel if I lost a healthy breast and I too have been thinking that, well, I'll have the PM and maybe there will be evidence that there were cancer cells forming and I caught it just in time! So, you're not alone in this! But the most important thing is that you're alive today and have taken steps to make sure that you have a better chance of staying that way.
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NonniO; thank you so very much for responding and validating my concern.It sounds like my situation resonates with you, and I felt like the only one with this issue. I feel guilty for asking b/c so many women on this board would love to have a neg path report. If you look at my posts, you'll see that I try to help out women in different situations so I decided it was not selfish for me to ask.
When I was diagnosed in 2003 my bc said to me "That dcis has probably been there for 8 or 9 yrs" So I expected to have areas of dcis and atyical lobular cells; just sitting around waitng for the day they would replicate invasively. Listening to your story makes me feel like of course you will get a bx report where you will say "Whew, am I glad I got that out". But, you are right, there's no guarantee. Anyway, I appreciate your response so much b/c it makes my problem seem universal. There are all kinds of issues where we make the best decision we can with the info we have. and you and I are doing that.
I am 55 now and this dble mastectomy has been a tough recovery. If I didn't do it now, maybe I would have resisited when I was 60 or 65. A clean path report does not mean that I never would have had bc down the road. Having the annual mammo on the radiated breast was cruel. I dreaded it from one yr to the next. I think I might feel worse if I was young and lost the opportunity to breast-feed my kids. But I probably would have made a decision then. We just have to have peace in the mindset that we made the best decision with the info at hand. And I was guided by several recently trained breast surgeons and oncologist. thanks again.
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Hi Eileen, I had the same, DCIS that they said had been there forever....years, they told me. No one at all, expected to find a cancerour little cell there, but they did.
I had lumpectomy, rads, clear nodes, 5 years of tamoxifen and everyone was very confident that was it.
FF to 2007, one year after getting off tamoxifen and I have my first ever MRI. It showed a 1.5 cm invasive, no nodes thank goodness, ER+. I had a mtxmy, recon (which turned out really well, despite many complications on the rads skin) and I am absolutely going for a pophy next fall.
I am not BRAC+, but two times is too much for me. I just hope I can beat the beast to it.
I understand how you feel tho....I feel like a ticking time bomb and I really do not have the pathology to back that feeling up..just kicked one too many times and I feel like after I can see what a recon boob is like, and know that I can be put back together like new, only not so droopy (I am 54), well, why wouldn't I?
Like you, I do not think I'd want to face this down the road either. Another BS and a top oncologist all concur it's the right thing to do, but I still get ambivalent feelings.
Think of it as a "pre emptive strike"...whatever you do, we will support you.
xoxo
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anniealso; thank you so much for sharing your story and reassuring me. I have been cancer-free since 2003 but a MRI in JUne showed a 7mm "spiculated"(star-shaped, very ominous) lobule. No one seemed the least bit surprised that this would turn up 7 yrs out. I had a new bc and onc this past time and they both said "Well, you really have been at high risk for a recurrence b/c of your path report in '03" In 2003 I was told lumpectomy plus radiation equals mastectomy. (also had chemo) FF to 2010 and just having breast tissue (TN) was putting me at high risk for a recurrence. And, as we know all too well, some cancers pop up already invasive even tho we get regular detection. the June 2010 false negative was a wake-up call for me. so I went ahead and planned PBM. I will never again have to fight insurance companies to pay for yearly MRIs; no more mammo squishing the breast that was terribly radiated.
so I am feeling pro-active. thanks to you. eileen
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Thatta girl, you go, Eileen, and I'll be right behind you!
Believe me, the recon boob looks better (or will with her cherry on top) than the 54 year old girl....
she will be forever 21 and have no cancer (or a 1% chance)
I cannot even believe someone told you that a mammos was OK on the radiated boob! OWWWWWWWWWW.
We do still need MRIs on reconned boobs to check for leaks...but this is only once every three years or so, and it willl be covered
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Good for you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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annie also; are you suggesting that women with radiated breasts don't get mammos! I will flip if this is true. I had it done every 6 months for 5 yrs. My elderly aunt had been on hospice so I took a few drops of her morphine each time. that's how desperate I was. and I always felt like it was just me.
I have elected not to go thru reconstruction, tho I support every women's decision on that one. Having had vascular leg problems since birth, I have had about 30 surgeries. and my legs are finally feeling normal, so I want to focus on the next two yrs of walking and eating healthy. Not dealing with PS. Being sedentary is not good; and that has been my lifestyle forever. Till my most recent vascular surgery in 1/10.
when I mention no recon; . so many people respond; well you can always change your mind and go for recon.yrs later. I know they are well-meaning and probably cannot imagine that I will be fine w/o my breasts. I've seen the fotos, I know the possible complications of recon on a radiated breast and I know the actual expectation of a really good breast reconstruction. Still does not appeal to me in the least, but I'm excited for you. I'm very feminine and I am already shopping around for the best breast forms. Eagerly awaiting the micro-bead brest forms to arrive in the mail; the foam ones are rubbing against my scars. It's important to me that I look natural in clothes. But my hubby and I are very comfortable with this after 30 yrs of marriage. Sending my best wishes to you. You are a very compassionate person! glad our paths crossed. eileen
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Me too, Eileen. I never had my radiated and lumpectomized boob done by a mammo, no. When they would suggest it, I told them,they were mad.
I had my oncologist write me a script for an MRI which I got instead. I know many women do get them, just that I refused and said it was effing sadistic, excuse my french. I do believe during one biopsy I suggested that the radiologist let me stick a wire into his credentials and we'd see how how he did. So, no, no mammo on that hoot for me.
I may be compassionate, but oh I have a temper.
. I'm delighted you took some drugs to get thru that, don't see how you could do otherwise. The very thought makes me cringe.
there are days when I completely see the wisdom of going boob free. It's so simple. Just be free. I have a boob obsessed hubby, but I do believe we'd be fine if I went that route. He'd just turn into a butt man, he says. We've been married 25 years, so it's not like it's gonna get better from here on out anyway. I admire you for doing it, I just wanted everything "back the way it was"....well, it isn't, never will be, and I like what I had done, although I can see once I get about 10-15 y ears into this, I won't be wanting to swap them out when they reach their limits. I'm 54 now, and I cannot see surgery continually in my 70's. I'd probably let things go au naturel then.
Good for you! I'm glad our paths crossed too.Be well
xoxo
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anniealso; you are compassionate with a good sense of humor. that is the best combo. People tend to want to be around a person like you. My friends say the same about me but I don't want to BRAG. My grandma always said it would give me a big head.
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I have a very strong history of breast cancer.My grandmother(maternal) died from a recently from it,maternal aunt has also passed from it,my mom has it and a sister has it.I have been tested for the gene even though I was basically forced to since my oncologist said I was gonna be tested no matter what.I have seen no need to since no one else in my family has been tested.I have had two lumpectomies(sry spelling is off today),and two needle core biopsies.All within a year to year and a half.I told my oncologist no matter what the results are I want a mastecomy.Oh i forgot I have an aunt on my dad's side also has it.He seemed to be really pissed off at the fact that that is what I want is that wrong of me to say and demand what I want?
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