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  • lisag
    lisag Member Posts: 22
    edited October 2005
    Susan, Hopeful, Peg Congrats on finishing the AC! Had a bit more of a tough time this round, does seem to be cumulative. The anemia makes it tough to do much without getting short of breath. Went to sleep on Saturday and have only been up for 2-3 hr blocks since, although woke up feeling much better this am so think I'm through the worse. Had a mental low yesterday, am so grateful for my kids and friends who have been right by me through this, dropping by food and cheer when I had little interest in either. Peg, I'm inspired by you and getting out today to get some tulip and daffodil bulbs, in Oregon the daffodils will be opening about when I finish radiation. I will be with you through the taxol too. Haven't done any research on it, but I'm looking forward to moving through this journey.
    Wow all the responses as to why me or why not me, such thoughtful and amazing women. Have been reading about the nature of suffering lately, have always been blessed with great physical health and my happiest most stress free moments have been while enjoying movement-skiing,dancing, hiking, any sport. When I get through this I know those moments will never be taken for granted.
    Strength and blessings, you are all an inspiration
    Lisa
  • Cerridwen
    Cerridwen Member Posts: 9
    edited October 2005
    Hi there!
    Yesterday had my 2nd round of chemo and in this time things were better, ok my vein hurt much more I guess the next time nurse will have to find another vein because this one is really damaged , is black and swelled up.

    Besides that I felt just a little tired and slept about 2 hours and wake up fine, today I'm cold and just a little achy but fine.

    What about u girls?
    ((HUGS))
  • sholroyd
    sholroyd Member Posts: 288
    edited October 2005
    Well I had made a previous posting but somehow can’t find it now – must have been in one of my dopey moods! I had read through all the postings and made comments to most of you – think I will start saving my replies in case this happens again.

    Anyway one thing I remember doing is inviting Maxine and ?? to let me know how they got on with their treatment yesterday, as I did. I had a very good nurse and have only got the smallest of bruises on my hand – they decided to use the thrombosis arm and not the op arm, she talked through the whole process, took her time and made me feel quite relaxed. She also showed my hubby how to administer the clexane injection (blood thinning) which meant this morning I didn’t have to go to the hospital (yeah) – I gave my hubby a house point, he did very well – could do it myself cos I am feeling a bit of a wimp. So that makes me 3 down with Epirubicin, 1 more to go before moving onto CMF. Today I have taken all what they gave me, including the steroids, which you may remember I left off last time because I was worrying about this weight thing, I feel Okish albeit tired and hope tomorrow continues along the same vein (excuse the pun). I have to be OK for Saturday evening as we are going out for my son’s 21st birthday.

    Liezel it was good to read your final posting – much more positive and that’s what we have to be, albeit it is good to know we can also have a moan here when we have those inevitable down days.

    Peggy thanks I have visited the bald site – a great place to visit and I agree what you say about Michelle and her family, but your photo is also beautiful. What I liked most was that all the ‘bald’ ladies (and some men) had a smile. I have decided which photos I am going to post but unfortunately they are all too large so I have had to send off to the administrator of the site to reduce for me. I haven’t even shown my hubby my ‘head’ so whoever looks at my photos should feel honoured!! (I look awful). The photo alongside my name here is just after I lost all my weight 2 years ago, I felt pretty fit and I had my own hair!! My bald piccie is me with my tongue poking out – this is what I am saying to BC!

    Thanks for your continued support and I wish you all well.

    Sandra from the UK
  • Calico
    Calico Member Posts: 1,108
    edited October 2005
    It's nice to see you all in good spirits.

    Well, I had chemo # 3 yesterday (I cried, I didn't want to go - to much anxiety I guess, felt nauseaus through out but not from the AC I guess it was just me), slept all afternoon and again at 9:00pm, then got up has some cereal and off to the couch 3 hours again. This time I take my Ativan regularly and it seems to help the anti nausea meds.
    Oh, did I mention I gained 5 Pounds

    Got my PET scan of the lung back, that THING did ot show up yet. Onc is not worried but said it is unlikely under one cm to show up (mine is 6 mmm). So will have follow up scans in the future and everytime much anxiety with it.
    Thank you for all you good thoughts and prayers!!

    God Bless
  • PSA
    PSA Member Posts: 3
    edited October 2005
    Is anyone else giving themselves the Neulasta shots? I've done it after infusions (3), so let's see... 17 times so far (7 + 5 + 5) At first I cried and cried afterwards, but I've come to accept doing it a bit more now.

    One more round of A+C on Halloween (Booooo!) and then 4 Taxols.
  • leannem
    leannem Member Posts: 137
    edited October 2005
    Hi all

    Round 3 chemo was yesterday and apart from feeling beyond exhuasted am not too bad (touch wood!!). Scott finishes his walk tomorrow so I am attemtping to fly down to greet him. Hopefully I don't feel worse tomorrow as I really want to be there for him.

    PSA, I am giving myself the neulasta shots at home. I have only done the 2. Why have you done 17? Perhaps they are different here in Australia? It is just the 1 injection the day after infusion so apart from the insane bone pain it is okay. Sorry to hear you have such a tough time of it.

    I too added my bald pic to the other site. What a great spot to do this! I have also attempted to add it here so lets see...

    Well i'll be off, just a quick one to pop my head in while the chemo brain isn't at its best!

    xo
  • leannem
    leannem Member Posts: 137
    edited October 2005

    bugger, my pic didn't work. How do I add it my pic?

  • leannem
    leannem Member Posts: 137
    edited October 2005
  • AussieMum
    AussieMum Member Posts: 124
    edited October 2005
    Leanne!

    Friday now? Wow he has powered on. I have only just seen the site with the time.

    On the Aussie girls site you told us Saturday. Good luck!
  • tinkermax
    tinkermax Member Posts: 269
    edited October 2005
    WOW...I did it,, on my own... posted my picture here and on the bald pics site.

    Definitely a good day today

    Take care ladies
    Maxine
  • tinkermax
    tinkermax Member Posts: 269
    edited October 2005
    Ladies

    we are only getting a four star rating, and I think we should be FIVE.

    At the bottom of this page, you have the chance to rate this thread (if you haven't already done it).

    Lets go for FIVE STAR TREATMENT!

    Maxine
  • Pegk
    Pegk Member Posts: 389
    edited October 2005
    WOW! It's great to see so many faces! Sandra, Maxine, Leanne-nice to meet you! You all look beautiful and strong!
    Definitely a FIVE STAR group!
  • tinkermax
    tinkermax Member Posts: 269
    edited October 2005
    Sandra

    Good to hear your chemo went well, I was thinking of you when I was having mine done.

    Isn't it just great seeing what everyone looks like!

    Maxine
  • Pegk
    Pegk Member Posts: 389
    edited October 2005
    I'm off to the hospital today for a MUGA scan. I haven't had one yet. Before my treatments were started I was given an echocardiogram. Lately, I have been experiencing-(How should I describe it?)palpitations, I can feel my heart beat reving up a bit even when sitting still. It's only happened a couple of times, but I mentioned it to the PA the other day, so she scheduled the test. Either the A or the C (I forget which) is known to be hard on the heart, so I'll be checked out. Like I said, I've never had a MUGA before, so I'm not really sure what it checks. I'll let you know what happens.
    Peggy
  • tinkermax
    tinkermax Member Posts: 269
    edited October 2005
    Good luck with your MUGA peggy.
    I think its the A that is hard on the heart.

    Maxine
  • sholroyd
    sholroyd Member Posts: 288
    edited October 2005
    Calico, sorry to hear you are finding round three tough and having to go through the extra anxiety with your scans – it is good you have someone keeping a watchful eye on you though.

    I like to put a face to a name also and am trying to build some photos up for the bald site – want to include some of the family as I think this builds a bigger picture of ‘us’ – watch this space but I warn you I do not look as beautiful (on the outside) as those who have already posted.

    I think you are brave giving yourselves your shot – I have had to give the job of my blood-thinning injection to my hubby, not for much longer though hopefully as my blood is beginning to get to the acceptable level – I am so miffed off that I have had this thrombosis business along with the BC treatment.

    Leanne, please give Scott a big hug from me and make sure your energy levels are such that you can give him a big bear hug and more!

    Maxine, thanks for thinking of me as I was of you – how are you feeling? I must say I am quite pleased and apart from being tired I am certainly not like I was without taking the steroids – blow the weight I will deal with this after treatment ends.

    Peggy thoughts to you for your MUGA – I am going onto CMF around Christmas time, so do I understand this will not be hard on the heart then? I have also heard that CMF is not so drastic as the Epirubicin (red devil), although I do recall some members of the board saying this is not always so.

    Thoughts to you all – weekend will soon be upon us again.

    Sandra from the UK

    PS: Right off to find out where I can increase us to a well deserved 5*
  • AussieMum
    AussieMum Member Posts: 124
    edited October 2005
    Maxine - Have added my vote to the "5 star" rating. The encouragement received from this thread has been wonderful. Although we have family and friends around us who love and support us, and medical teams who care for us and encourage us, we can still feel alone. Although they love and support us, we are still the one doing the hard yards.
    The forum is a place where although we might feel alone, we can be alone together. I have learned so much from all the ladies here.

    Peggy - Never heard of a MUGA before Peggy. Your heart is kind, hope the MUGA shows it is physically strong too.

    Maxine - clever to get your pic up yourself. I called on the expertise of my 17 year old to get it on this forum as an avatar (a word I had never heard before!). I did my own on the bald pic site, but hadn't been clever enough to keep them together, so the 'transition phases' are across 2 or 3 pages now! Look back if you dare!

    Sandra - you look beautiful to me! Good idea to put some family on. Susan did that, too (look back through the pages - all her beautiful hair) and Leanne has recently. I have one on the forum at the 'buzz cut' stage with my children. Hubby took the photo.
    Amazing how you have coped so strongly with the blood thinning process. An extra burden on the hard road. Great that your husband can do it, though. Saves trips to the hospital every day.

    Hope your son's 21st is a wonderful celebratory time, and that you feel well enough to be right in the midst of the celebrations.I have a nephew turning 21 in about 2 weeks.

    I am speaking at a breast cancer awareness brunch on Saturday - interview format, then questions from the audience.
  • txred9876
    txred9876 Member Posts: 392
    edited October 2005
    I skimmed through the posts...I hope everyone is doing well...I just got home from treatment 4 a little while ago. The redness/swelling is very much going away! kill that inflammatory crap! it is now a splotchy pink.....and much much smaller then half my breast.

    I have to love and hate the Neulasta shot...they give mine to me right after treatment and the pain is already starting up in the hips/upper leg bones.

    Tina
  • susan_02143
    susan_02143 Member Posts: 7,209
    edited October 2005
    Cerridwen,

    Glad that you had a gentle nurse during this round of chemo. I too had an IV for each infusion and they had to use a different vein each time. Many more treatments and I would have needed a port.

    What chemo drugs are you getting now?

    *susan*
  • susan_02143
    susan_02143 Member Posts: 7,209
    edited October 2005
    Sandra,

    Again, the quality of the nurse makes such a difference! Can you request the same person next time? My hospital gives each patient the same nurse for all their treatments, which makes a really big difference if you ask me.

    The steroids seem to be a neccessary evil. They make the anti-nausea drugs work better, but the possibility of weight gain is a definate downside. Now that I have finished the chemo, my doctors/nurses have said that I can keep any dropped weight off. I am trying hard, but my body has other ideas. :-(

    Have a wonderful birthday party. I hope that you are feeling well enough to enjoy the moments.

    *susan*
  • susan_02143
    susan_02143 Member Posts: 7,209
    edited October 2005
    Calico,

    Yea on the CAT scan! I am so sorry that the treatments are so hard on you. Each time you go, you are showing just how strong you are. Hope your post-chemo week is going well.

    *susan*
  • susan_02143
    susan_02143 Member Posts: 7,209
    edited October 2005
    PSA,

    Sounds like you have neuprogen if you have done 17 shots! Good luck with the last A/C on Monday!!!!!

    *susan*
  • susan_02143
    susan_02143 Member Posts: 7,209
    edited October 2005
    Maxine,

    Thanks for the tip on the stars. I wondered how the ratings happened, and now I not only know, I have voted! This is a five-star thread if you ask me. Great group of women.

    *susan*
  • susan_02143
    susan_02143 Member Posts: 7,209
    edited October 2005
    Peggy,

    By now your MUGA is over, and you have learned that it is a fairly easy test to take. I was given one before they would administer the A of the A/C. You are right, it is hard on the heart. I believe that I will be given another MUGA when the radiation is over. My doctors want to see how much 'function' I lost, and have a new baseline as I move into the aromatese inhibitors.

    Hope that it all went well for you.

    *susan*
  • susan_02143
    susan_02143 Member Posts: 7,209
    edited October 2005
    Quote:


    I am speaking at a breast cancer awareness brunch on Saturday - interview format, then questions from the audience.




    Michelle,

    Wow! This is amazing that you are making such a difference already. How did you get chosen/volunteer for this opportunity? Do let us know how this goes. I am particularly interested in what questions your audience thinks need answering.

    *susan*
  • susan_02143
    susan_02143 Member Posts: 7,209
    edited October 2005
    Tina,

    YEA YEA YEA!!!! The chemo is working on that blasted IBC. This is the best news to hear. I hope that you fare well in the next few days. You are so darn inspirational!

    *susan*
  • susan_02143
    susan_02143 Member Posts: 7,209
    edited October 2005
    I am now on Day 8 following my fourth A/C [which will be my last chemo.] It seems unfair that I am done with chemo while all of you continue with longer protocols. Don't get me wrong... I am thrilled that I am not required to have the Taxols which would be standard if I didn't use my fingers professionally. I am not rebounding as quickly with this round though. My stomach is still doing flips, I get tired [well, exhausted] quickly, and have to nap each day. I am still unable to sleep more than 7.5 hours per night, and still take Zanex and stool softeners to keep my body happy. Slowly, I am starting to work again, but my brain is still not as quick as it once was. I know I need to be patient, but it is hard to feel dumb and slow.



    My next appointment is on November 1st with the Radiation Oncologist. I believe that we will map out my radiation protocol. Last I heard, we are looking at 35 sessions, with 5 boosts. I have also scheduled an appointment with a genetic councelor. For me the genetic component would affect whether or not I have a hysterectomy, and well, it would be for my daughter.



    Today I received a call from a research nurse at the hospital. I have been offered a late Phase III research spot. The research is being coordinated by the National Institute of Health of Canada and is studying the difference in outcomes and side effects of Armidex and Aromasin. The study is multi-national, and includes a huge sampling of women. I am inclined to particate. It seems very low risk, includes free medication [I don't have rx insurance], and to be honest, gives back to the community that is treating me. The consent forms should arrive this weekend, and I will study them carefully.



    In other news, I am throwing a huge party this Sunday to celebrate the end of chemo and to thank the large support system that has been so good to me and my husband. I am, as always, going overboard. I have a four course Italian feast planned. Of course, I may fall asleep while preparing the segundo course!



    Enough words for one evening. Glad to have updates from so many here. I know that we are all getting more tired as we get further into the chemo treatments, and posting takes more and more effort.



    Take care all,

    *susan*
  • marg1
    marg1 Member Posts: 73
    edited October 2005
    Hello Everyone, Marg here.



    I was on my way to Houston on Sunday for my 3rd AC tx and in route (6 hour drive from where I live to Houston) I developed a temp of 102, chills and a headache so bad. I ended up in a emergeny room in a town called Corpus Christi which is almost halfway there. They gave me an antibotic and Tylenol and sent my off my merry way. I ended up in Houston at about 1:00am and the temp still going strong 102 and that was with Tylenol 1000mg every 4 hours. By Monday, I was better -- I think the antibotic kicked in. I had my appt on Tuesday at MD Anderson and did not get my chemo -- but ended up with lots of lab work, new antibotics to take for a week and since I complained of such a bad headach the onc wants to do an MRI of my head to rule out cancer there. I think I have a sinus infection -- I have some nasal stuffiness that is relieved by sudafed and I dont have any headches anymore. What a trip!!!!!! They scheduled it on Halloween night but I refused and told them that if I do have cancer in my brain then another day would not matter but Halloween with my kids matters a whole lot to me. They rescheduled for tomorrow instead. So now I fly to Houston 10/28 and will get my MRI done then I fly back on Sat 10/29 for be here for all the Halloween activities with my girls until 10/31. I go back on 11/1 Tues for I my MRI results and lab and hopefully my 3rd AC. I refuse to accept that I have Ca in the brain and I promised myself that I would not look up Brain met signs and symptoms on the internet. I trust that GOD has healed me and I will not worry about it. The more I say that "GOD has healed me" out loud the more I feel it. People ask me all the time how I am doing and I tell them that. I am just going through the chemo motions. This post is getting so big. So many new ladies.



    Aussiemum --thanks for the message. Have you gotten that book that I recommended? I tell you -- just when I am feeling down or doubt -- It makes me feel so great. It almost knows what I need to hear. GET IT!!! (Grace by the hour -- by Mary J Nelson) I can't recommended enough.



    Praying for all of us ---- Marg
  • AussieMum
    AussieMum Member Posts: 124
    edited October 2005
    Marg,
    You won't believe it, but I managed to get that book YESTERDAY !! It was only published in Aus May this year, and our little local Christian bookshop had it when I went in yesterday.
    I love the chapter "Even your hairs are numbered" because boy, when they came out, there were too many for me to count!
  • txred9876
    txred9876 Member Posts: 392
    edited October 2005
    Susan,

    You always have such kind and encouranging words for each and every one of us.....your are the inspiration to us all!

    When all this started with the inflammatory I almost felt like it may be a death sentence but as each treatment seems to be fading it away the hope grows that I may be able to truly beat this B*TCH!It would be nice to get into a study group for hormonal treatment as I will lose the medicaid once I go back to work (its a HUGE catch 22 here).

    Italian feast .....my daughter will be over..LOL...she is a HUGE italian eater...I am more the meat and taters type person.

    Well I should not be up this early but it was time to take more meds for the bone pain...and the nausea is a bit more this time then time two or three...but NOTHING compared to number one.

    It is interesting around my house....my daughter and I are both on steroids.....poor Joe...LOL She got poison ivy so is getting oral and cream steroids....and to top it off...her period this week....

    Joe does not stand a chance...LOL

    Tina

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