After care for BRCA+ patients who've had BC

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kittycat
kittycat Member Posts: 2,144
edited June 2014 in Genetic Testing

I met with my onco's partner yesterday before I had chemo (my onco was out with complications from a shoulder injury).  Anyway, he always has good info to share that I can benchmark off what my onco has to say. 

One of the questions I had for him yesterday is how they would treat me after chemo and rads are done.  Would I need scans?  And how often?  He said scans aren't always necessary, but they would probably check me every 6 months to a year.  So, I asked him, What about me being triple negative and having cancer twice in one year?  The answer was the same. 

And then I asked, What about having the BRCA1 gene mutation?  He said that my after care would most likely be different and I would be monitored more closely with being BRCA1+.  What feedback are you all getting from your onco's?  Are you getting PETscans?  MRI's?  Etc??? post BC diagnosis????

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  • kittycat
    kittycat Member Posts: 2,144
    edited October 2010

    Meg - thanks for your reply. I've also had 2 primaries. One was after my BMX, but that is really rare (esp since I had DCIS the first time). I wish my BS and original onco had been more diligent with my follow up. I switched oncos when I found my lumps the 2nd time. The first time my BC was found on an ultrasound.

  • MRDRN
    MRDRN Member Posts: 537
    edited October 2010

    This is a very good question.  My understanding is that everybody has an individualized care plan so it behooves us to compare notes.  Since I had all the surgery this year for most prevention of further recurrance, I was told to go on about my life basically and I would not need further scans.  The BS said that future BC would be found with BSE if that and the possibility of a peritoneal cancer is only 1%.  One of the benefits of this life saving surgery I had is to go on about my life without the major fear of being BRCA 1 with an up to 85% recurrance.  I guess time will tell.  I have a very small meningioma :( but even they are watched for years until symptoms cause you to seek and intervention.  If anyone on the boards have this too, please feel free to PM me.  MRI's are the saving studies for us but also pick up things that are not necesssary to treat.  I had two professionals tell me that they don't go looking for problems! 

    Dr Oz had an episode this week with two opposing views from BS....one talked about not treating DCIS and the other did....perhaps it is on line.  I was surprised that BRCA was not even mentioned !  It pays to educate ourselves, doesn''t it ?

  • AnacortesGirl
    AnacortesGirl Member Posts: 1,758
    edited October 2010

    Good question.  My onc said he doesn't want to do any more scans unless I have symptoms.  And I'm OK with that because I have had so many scans this last year and a half.  The PET scans just kept lighting up in different areas each time.  We know now that they were false positives but at the time it was very worrisome.  So now that I've been through the chemo, rads bmx and will have my BSO next week I feel it's time to step away from the scans.  So what does that leave?  Tumor markers.  And we know that they aren't absolute either.

    Kittycat - since you had a bmx, where was your second primary found?  Along the scar line?

  • lmc1970
    lmc1970 Member Posts: 168
    edited October 2010

    I'm triple neg but my docs haven't bothered to test me for the gene. Not important to them I guess. They also said they would only do scans if I had any symptoms-which I did last month and now have a recurrence in the supraclavicular nodes...but in the last 4 years I've only had two bone scans and two CT's. Not too bad I guess but I don't know how many is too many?

  • kittycat
    kittycat Member Posts: 2,144
    edited October 2010

    Imc1970 - what are supraclavicular nodes? 

    My tumors in the 2nd diagnosis were found internally, not along my scar line.  They were on the side of the breast (outside, closer to my armpit).  The cancer had grown into my scar capsule on the inside and all the way up to the implant.  They said it was breast tissue that was left behind.  I guess I'm part of that 1%.  I'm glad I found it, when I did. 

    If I was told last year that I had to do chemo, I would have been devastated.  It hasn't been fun, but I don't want to chance any rogue cells floating around my body. 

    I still have to do radiation.  I'm still worried about radiation because they removed quite a bit of tissue when they had to go in twice (once to remove the tumors, the 2nd time to get clear margins and remove nodes).  My BS had said if he had to remove more tissue, it wouldn't hold the implant.  My rad onco said there should not be any issues with the implant.  There is a chance of getting capsular contracture.  Ughhh... This disease sucks!!!

  • lmc1970
    lmc1970 Member Posts: 168
    edited October 2010

    Hi Kittycat-

    The supraclavicular nodes are the ones near the collarbone. Looks like we have a fair bit in common. I think we are both around 40 and your second diagnosis was nearly indentical to my first. Although my tumor was 0.9cm. They found cancerous axillary lymph nodes 3 years later.

    Yes radiation can suck. The pain from the burn is something I will never forget. Just remember to always put something on it (like aloe) and don't wear any bras-I think that was my biggest mistake. Hopefully you will just breeze through it :o)

    And yes this disease does suck!!! Bigtime!!!!!!!!!

  • kittycat
    kittycat Member Posts: 2,144
    edited August 2013

    Imc1970 - when you had your first diagnosis, did they do a mastectomy or lumpectomy?  Did you just have radiation, chemo or both?  I had a bilateral mastectomy with reconstruction the first time, but no chemo or radiation because I had DCIS.  I am now doing chemo (almost done - YAY) and will start radiation probably in mid to late November. 

    Sorry to hear about your diagnosis in your nodes.  Are they going to give you chemo?  If so, what kind???  Did they do a PETscan after finding it in your nodes?  Triple Negative BC really sucks!  :(

  • lmc1970
    lmc1970 Member Posts: 168
    edited October 2010

    Hi Kittycat-the first time I had a lumpectomy and radiation. Chemo was recommended but I refused. This was really just before the started using the term triple negative. Last year they wanted to take my breast off as well as chemo and radiation...I'm a difficult patient as in I don't really like chemo and radiation or losing my breast. I had surgery to remove the nodes and tried chemo once but it made me really sick. Since I can't have surgery this time I think I am going to try Abraxane. And I am also going to request some genetic testing-coz I have daughter. I'm starting to think this country is a bit behind the times with medical testing...

  • kittycat
    kittycat Member Posts: 2,144
    edited August 2013

    My sister didn't have the genetic testing done when she was dx in 2008.  She had a scare earlier this year (she ended up being okay) and told her BS that I tested positive for BRCA1.  Of course, he totally freaked out (he didn't even know I was dx - I found out about my first bout with BC a month after my sister finished chemo and her final recon surgery).  My sister got tested and has the same exact BRCA1 mutation that I have.  I don't have children, but my sister has a daughter.  And my nieces dad also has BC in his side of the family.  :(  At least my sister is ER+ and is taking Tamoxifen.  I'm glad she's not triple negative like me.

  • lmc1970
    lmc1970 Member Posts: 168
    edited October 2010

    It certainly is weird how you both had the gene and still ended up with different cancers! It's still such a mystery! I don't have any breast cancer on my mother's side. I think there is some on my father's side. I always thought it came down the maternal side but maybe not. In the end I guess it has to start somewhere-just wish it hadn't been me!

  • Latte
    Latte Member Posts: 1,072
    edited October 2010

    i'm BRCA1+. I've been told (after i finish up with chemo, surgery, and rads) that I will have MRI once a year, and mammogram/US once a year, staggered so that something is checked every 6 months. Plus tumor markers every 6 months too. but i'm more concerned about mets showing up and don't know if anything will be done to look for them.

    imc1970 - i'm surprised you've had trouble getting tested in Australia - my brother lives there and got tested for free with no problem at the local familial cancer center (he was tested for BRCA because I am positive, and for MSH2 because we have a family history)

  • angelsaboveus
    angelsaboveus Member Posts: 298
    edited October 2010

     Kittycat

    In 2008 went through dx and tx....mx, chemo, and rads.  I am also triple neg, node positive and had been seeing my doc and surgeon every 6 months opposite of each other.   Went for BRCA testing in May ''09 and got the results this May 2010 positive for BRCA 1....lucky me.    It takes alot longer up hear in Canada .  Still have the same appt. schedule with docs the only difference is I have now been referred to a high risk clinic and they will do yearly MRI's if I choose to do so.  I live 8 hours away from the closest MRI so still pondering that.

    Breast surgeon said to think of the possibility of having Mx on the remaining side if I didn't want to deal with yearly scans and the anxiety that goes with them.  Also have just consulted with gyno and they strongly suggests laporoscopic salpingo oopherectomy for me (ovaries and tubes removed ) because  the BRCA 1 elevates the chances of getting ovarian cancer.  I am 47 post menopausal and done having kids, so really have no need for them anymore.  So there are alot of decisions to make ! All because of one little mutated gene !!

  • lmc1970
    lmc1970 Member Posts: 168
    edited October 2010

    Thanks Latte-definitely will be asking the next time I am at the hospital. It's been 4 years since my diagnosis though-you would think at some point they might have been curious! I know I am!

  • kittycat
    kittycat Member Posts: 2,144
    edited October 2010

    I see my onco this week for my LAST CHEMO!!!!  I'm going to ask her about my after care with the BRCA gene.  I'm so over chemo, but anxious about upcoming rads.  Cancer sucks!

  • lmc1970
    lmc1970 Member Posts: 168
    edited October 2010

    Great news Kittycat...not long now!

    I did have a recurrence 3 years after my diagnosis but I didn't have chemo so by having chemo lets hope that is the last you see of this crappy cancer!

  • cassou1
    cassou1 Member Posts: 31
    edited October 2010

    hi angelsaboveus, that's pretty bad taking a year to find out that you tested + for the brca gene.  my sister(passed away a year ago)had the whole series done in march 31, got the results back with in a week or two. i ha had the one series done (brca 1) May 6, 2009-results back May 12, 2009 (day after my sister's celebration of life)

  • Latte
    Latte Member Posts: 1,072
    edited October 2010

    angelsaboveus - i've heard from a lot of people that there is a huge wait for the results in Canada - not sure why, since it is a blood test that really shouldn't take long (I had to wait 6 weeks for mine and thought that was too long...)

  • angelsaboveus
    angelsaboveus Member Posts: 298
    edited October 2010

    Kittycat

    good luck with your last chemo !  You said you were anxious about your upcoming rads.....try not to be. I know easier said than done. ! I found that part to be easier than chemo , the first one is a little hard just because you don't know what to expect but after that it was just 15 min. out of my day.  Mind you I did have the 15 day 5 boost protocol because I wasn't doing recon. so it was a bit shorter.

    cassou1,Latte........before the genetic blood test I was warned it would take that long, there seems to be a huge backlog that they can't seem to catch up on. I guess it's the tedious process of going through all the genetic series.

    I don't know if it would make a difference if we had to pay for it and whether that would speed things up.  I could have done it in the states and had it done quicker but it would of cost too much for me

  • cassou1
    cassou1 Member Posts: 31
    edited November 2010

    hi angelaboveus, when i got tested, insurance took care of it.  if i had to pay, would have been around $300.00. was your results sent to myraid? or some where else.  pay or not, shouldn't take so long.  met a customer today at work-wife 2q years in remetion with ovarian cancer, they live colorado, medicare wouldn't pay for her treatment, here in calif. they will.

  • hydeskate
    hydeskate Member Posts: 297
    edited November 2010

    I am positive for the BRAC gene with TNBC and one male and one female cousin and one aunt tested postivie as well.  Once my doctors found out that my cousin who was two years older than me had the gene they immediately ran base scans on her MRI and Cat Scan, took blood work and they have her coming up every 6 months and she doesn't have cancer.  My male cousin is in the Air Force once they found out the family history, my cancer and that his dad had prostate they immediately sent him to be tested for the gene, he also gets 6 month check ups.

     Several other of my cousins are scared to take to the test.

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