Do you have young kids?
I have been going through this site for a few months now and have found it so helpful in so many ways. The women here are amazing. I have two young children who are 9 months and almost three years old. They are my life, along with my wonderful husband. After having a BMX back 6/30 caring for my children has grown more difficult, yet as a mother I do not stop. You can never stop. I would like to try to connect with other women who are going through this and understand it is 24/7 including lifting when it hurts, rocking when they push on your scars and ports for filling your TE's. Taking Aleve so you can chase them at the park etc- and smiling the whole time. For the most part , the threads I find are all about treatment, not so much about daily life, the frustrations and joys we encounter as mom's. I have been frustrated at times by my limits and would like to connect with other who rise at 5 am and don't stop until all is quiet....
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Hi Laurie! I will be having my last round of chemo 9/27 then going on to have a BMX in November. I'd love to learn from you more about how you are coping with everything. We do not have a lot of family in the area that can help us. My DH is going to be taking two weeks off of work when I have the BMX to deal with the young ones (I have a 6 month old and a 2.5 year old). Luckily, I have had minimal side effects with chemo and my lumpectomy and re-excision went off without a hitch (healing-wise) - but I have a feeling the BMX surgery will be much different. .
The hard part is forcing myself to go to bed after my 2.5 year old and baby are asleep for the night. My 6 month old still wakes up around 4 am for a feeding then is up for good anywhere from 5:45am to 630 am. When she wakes up for her 4 am feeding I have a hard time getting back to sleep - if I am lucky I can get a 45 minute catnap before I am up for good. DH works nights, so 4 nights out of the week it is just me. I don't know how I'm going to do this when I go back to work - I work 3 pm until midnight two to three days a week. I've been on maternity leave since February and extended it out to disability when I was diagnosed.
When do you think you will be able to do your exchange surgery? Do you have a lot of family nearby?
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in cognito- So glad we found each other! The BMX with small kids was more doable then I thought. Don't get me wrong, it's not easy, but not as bad as what you might be afraid of. Before surgery I was mostly worried about my older son who was 2 1/2 and not too worried about my younger who was 7 months. It was much harder on my younger son. My older son understood that I had to go to the Dr. to take a boo boo out of me so I wouldn't get sick and that after I was going to be sore. He understood I couldn't lift him and we came up with ways to do things differently together and had fun coping through it. My youngest wanted nothing to do with me after about a week. I couldn't rock him, soothe him, feed him etc. He quickly picked up that I couldn't "help" him and he began to prefer my husband even if I was trying to play with him. Of course, now that we are back to business as usual this has gone away, and he now knows Mama will fix it all again.
I think it's great that your husband will stay home for the first two weeks, mine did the same. I have some family locally, a sister in law and my father in law and his wife. The big help was really my husband and my friends. Your friends will amaze you. My husband did it all for the first two weeks then he went back to work, my drains came out and family/friends started helping. My kids went to my in laws two days a week while hubby was at work and on the other three days a friend would come spend the day with us and do all the lifting for me. By two weeks out I could make lunch etc. But not rock my son to get him down for his nap or get him in and out of a crib. I got my weight restrictions lifted at 4 weeks and have not looked back. I would recommend trying to make it the whole six weeks with help- but it's a long time to depend on others. Now I am10 weeks out or so and I am very tired physically. But, everyone now thinks I am all better- which is my fault. I hate to ask for help.
I can totally relate to not wanting to go to bed at night. I read A LOT it is the only way I get my mind to turn off and let me sleep. My son still gets up every night around 4 I am the same as you- I never really get back to sleep and we are usually all up and at it by 6 or so. If I am lucky I get to sleep around midnight. Not exactly enough sleep to heal with huh?
I am self employed as a book keeper and only missed one week of work. Using a computer was something I could do. But I was at home in comfy clothes having my husband or friend run checks where I needed them to go etc. Not sure how you going back to work in an office will be.
I could go on and on- ask me anything you want. I am glad to find someone else I can relate to. I am so glad that your healing has gone well and that chemo wasn't too hard on you.
I am having my exchange surgery 1/11, after the holidays are all done. I can't wait!!!
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HI,
My youngest is 19 months and I have a 6 year old. At first it was difficult not being able to hold the little one but I would just get down on the floor and hug her that way. It was hard giving up breastfeeding but she was 15 months at the time and adjusted with no problem. Now that she is bigger, she has learned to climb into her highchair and I use a rocking chair to help her get into and out of her crib (mind you this is only when DH is not home).
One painful part is when she constantly likes to climb on me. She often bangs into my chest. I have a TE so it can HURT!
It's hard to take care of the little ones when you are tired.....moms are amazing!
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mom to my girls- I couldn't agree more with the TE pain and children climbing you. When I rock my youngest and he is having a hard time going to sleep he pushes against my chest and almost always hits the port part. I hate it. Very crafty way to get you child in and out of the crib! You are right mom's are amazing.
Again- so nice to find other women who understand how physical it is to have young children you are lifting and having climb on you all day while going through so much yourself.
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Do you guys remember how long your surgery was? I meet with the BS and PS next week so I will ask again, but I think I remember them saying something like 5-6 hours. My lumpectomy and re-excision were both only 45 minutes back in May so I'm quite nervous about being under for an extended amount of time.
How did you feel when you came to? I do not want to wake up nauseated, that is for sure!!!! I think I'm more worried about waking up nauseated and throwing up than I am of the pain - weird, I know!!!!
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in cognito- My surgery was almost 6 hours. I was very nervous about going under for that long. It was like I blinked my eyes and it was over. Felt fine coming out of it though. Had a touch of nausea a few hours after but nothing too bad. The drive home made me nauseas too. My biggest tip is more for the pain meds you will take after. Take stool softeners, even with them it sucks. I had to add prune juice to the mix too and I was taking as few pain pills as I could, the minimum dose.
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I had a simple mastectomy in my left breast, with sentinel node biopsy and the tissue expander put it. All together it was about 2 and half hours. I woke up extremely nauseated!!!! When I went in again for more surgery I told them about being sick and they changed the meds and I was a lot better. I only took the pain meds the next day and the stool softener for a few days.
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Hello ladies,
I am a 24 year old mother to a 13 month old daughter named Mackenna! I did not have BMX, I had a partial mastectomy, 6 rounds of chemo and 30 rounds of radiation. I was diagnosed when my daughter was only four months old. She is my first and it almost killed! me when i had to stop breastfeeding. I think maybe because she is my first child and i had such a problem getting her to eat properly in the first place. it was very important to me to get her to feed properly from me. i think it was also hard because i am the only one of my friends that had to give it up and no one quite understood what I was going through. I do not have two children but I do understand what its like to get up extremely early and never stop going. even through chemo treatments. She started walking two months ago and even though I am exhausted I keep going to keep up with her! I want to experience everything I can with her. She is my world. My family was very helpful when chemo had me hospitalized a few times but I can definately empathize with the non stop life of a mother.
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Hello ladies,
I have 3.5 year old twin girls. Had BMX with immediate implants on 9/7 and starting chemo (TC&H) 10/13. BMX went well, recovery wasn't so bad, my husband was home for 3 weeks and he made things so much easier, he really took control with the girls and allowed me to rest and recover. My question is how do you handle chemo and it's SE with young children? I just cut my hair to a pixie cut and had a cry session with the girls since they were so upset I don't have hair like theirs anymore. I am so afraid of how chemo will effect them.
Thanks!
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Basia - I think it really depends on how chemo goes for you. I did 4 rounds of TC and I felt flu-like for about a day and a half with each treatment - usually on days 4 and 5. My other side effects wore the annoying kinds like constipation and eye twitches - but nothing that kept me bed bound. I slept more than usual those days, but I made sure to schedule chemo to where my husband was home those days that I did feel bad. Other than that, I really did not have any more fatigue than the fatigue that comes with raising little kids. (I have a toddler and a 7 month old that still wakes 1-2 times a night). I had no nausea or vomiting thanks to Emend and Reglan.
My girls are still too young to really know what's going on though. When I shaved my hair off, my toddler just patted my head. Since yours are a bit older, you may have to explain things to them in very simple terms. Do you have any family that can come help you with the kids a few days each cycle?
I'm hoping you sail through chemo and have very minimal side effects! Exercise helps - I tried to walk everyday with the kids in the stroller. Good luck - you will do fine!
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I have a 2 yr old (will be 3at the end of the month) son and a 5 year old daughter. I understand everything y'all listed. My son climbs on me like a monkey and is constantly bumping my port.
My tx so far has been TH & zometa, i've had 3 rounds of it so far, my 4th round will be on Thurs! So far so good with SE. One thing i do to help my down week (week after chemo) is i make an extra serving or 2 of whatever i am cooking and freeze it (m freezer is packed right now!) and then just thaw and heat when i fee like crap! My husband is very helpful but his schedule is kooky! He works from 3pm to 2am 4 days a week and has 3 days off. So as soon as my daughter gets out of school the craziness starts and hubby isnt home to referee!!!
Before they discovered my mets we were discussing a BMX but now its sorta off the table, dr not sure if i will still foloow up with radiation or not.
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texasrose, it sounds like you have a great system in place for you. One smart Mama! I am so sorry for your diagnosis. I was very lucky that after my surgery family and friends did a meal calendar for me and my family for a month. It was more help than I ever imagined. My husband was against it at first, he stayed home the first 2 1.2 weeks and claimed "I can cook dinner, this is silly!" I told him yes, you can cook dinner. You are also great with the kids, you could never cook dinner AND watch the kids. Third night in he agreed and now he is even more appreciative when he gets home from work and the kids are bathed, dinner is on the stove and the house is picked up.
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LOL! When i spend 4 days in the hospital my husband was going crazy! He wrote me this very nice card that basically said being a mom is hard he sees the error of his ways and doesnt want the job anymore!
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I agree that you just do it, you don't stop. My 3 kids are a little older. When I was diagnosed they were 5 (boy), 8 & 10 (girls). I don't know what's harder, chasing little ones around (definitely a physical challenge) or handling the older ones... homework, soccer, softball, hockey. Practices and games 7 days a week and my husband works 2 hrs away, so it was all me. Luckily we've been in the same town for 8 years and have a lot of friends who helped with the chauffering at night. I did the Acme order online during chemo and would have someone pick up the groceries. Also, a neighbor did catering on the side, so when I went in for tram-flap reconstruction we "hired" her to make 5 meals a week for 4 weeks so I could just heat and eat. I can honestly say I never missed a game, a graduation, or a field trip. I think it's better to be running and have people need you. Gives you purpose.
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Should i be concerned....
My 3 yr old has speech delays (just really the pronouncing words correctly) I had a BMX almost 3 weeks ago and since i came home from the hospital he has been studdering- this is compleatly NEW. His speech thearapist noticed it and gave me tips on how to correct it but i was wondering if i should be doing something about it...
Anyone have anything similar happen with their kids?
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Timothea- To me it sounds like you are doing something. You have him working with a speech therapist and you are staying on top of things. Since your BMX, things have probably changed a great deal in your house. I know it did in mine until I could pick my kids up, which for me was 5 weeks. Both my boys had a hard time through that period and it took a little while for things to go back to normal. They were so used to Mom being in charge than Daddy was home for a couple of weeks and people were coming over all the time and our routine was junk. That can be a big deal for kids. Mine didn't have any speech issues but we did begin having issues with monsters and sleeping.
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I have ten kids (from the same father). I separated right before my diagnosis because of twenty years of abuse to me and my kids. I was diagnosed in January and now am waiting until Monday's MRI to see if I have mets in my liver (there are spots, seen on the PET scan). If the spots are not mets, I will be starting chemo (TAC) the next week. I am so scared. My kids have been my life. I NEVER had help from my husband so at least it is easier now as I don't have to be scared all the time that he will yell or be violent with me or the kids. But the care for the kids is really scary. How have you ladies balanced time with the kids and trying to rest? My sister is raising money for a nanny for me, but a nanny can definitely not take care of all those kids all at once like that. I wasn't supposed to get BC. So how do you do it? How do you erase the guilt if you go lie down? I have NEVER listened to myself, as my ex demanded so much and to have peace I had to do everything. How do you choose what is priority and what is not (like eating something because I'm underweight or spending some time with the kids?) It really is hard, I am so glad to see that there are other mothers of young kids here. Well, sad for you, but glad we can share the journey.
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Hi Leslie, I have two young children and my situation is different from yours. Chemo really knocked me out many times and my husband and mom had to take care of our kids, I supposed I could have helped but I was either too tired or sick. I hear you about the guilt. I feel like a bad mother but what you will hear from the women on this board which helped me a lot is that you have to take care of YOU first before you can take care of them. Your children need you as you need them so take care of yourself first at this difficult period so that you will be there for them. I explained to my daughter that I would be sick for a while but will be better by her birthday (April) and she understood that. Right now if it were a choice between you eating and spending time, you have to eat. Chemo made me nauseous at first. My first treatment was not good, I couldn't eat or hold anything down and I had to go to my doctor's office eventually to get rehydrated. After that whenever and whatever I found I could eat, i ATE it.
Hoping that your MRI comes back clean.
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It's nice to read all of your posts. I was diagnosed in November 2010 and had a BMX in December 2010. I am currently doing my best to plow through DD AC-T. There's no doubt that juggling a full time job, motherhood and BC is exhausting. My kids fuel my fighting spirit. They expect me to "get better" and I assure them that I will!!! I have five semi-little ones (10, 9, 7, 5 and 3) with the same wonderful DH. I never dreamed I'd be dealing with this at 37, but it's been a life-changer.
in cognito - My surgery was about 3 hours. I had a BMX with TE placement. I woke up feeling great with the exception of the painful tightness in my chest. I think my PS was a little overzealous by putting 150cc on each side during surgery. Yipes! Take your pain meds. and tell your doctor if you don't get relief. There are several options for pain and nausea medication. Stool softners need to be a part of your daily routine, too.
Basia - After your first treatment you will get a sense of when your down day(s) will fall. I typically plan to hibernate those days. I think this has allowed me to bouce back pretty quickly after each treatment, as opposed to forging ahead on the down days. There are great medications for most SEs we experience with chemo. Don't be afraid to ask for meds. After round #2 of AC my eyes started to chronically water. It was related to treatment. Eye drops were perscribed and now that SE is gone.
Tammy
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Laurie- my 5 yr old just started that, she has NEVER been afraid of going to bed but lately she's sayin she saw something that looked like a hand and i need to check under the bed....
Leslie- Its important to take care of yourself first and i know its hard to put ourselves at the top of the list, but your kids will thank you later when you're still around in 40 years!
You never erase the guilt, but It does fade over time though- a lot of times the week after chemo i would just snuggle up with my son on the sofa and nap all day while he watched cartoons- he'd wake me when he was hungry, also i would have out snacks for him like cheese or crackers or dry cereal. he was 2 when i started chemo, now 3 though... YOU CAN MAKE IT UP TO THEM ON THE DAYS YOU'RE FEELING BETTER- ITS LIKE A TRADE OFF
How old are your kids??
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Texasrose, what a fighter's spirit you have. Have you always been like that? It's inspiring. And thanks for shouting at me, I need it sometimes. I need to remember the trade off that I am making - crap now for a better future.
My kids are 1, 3, 4, 6, 8, 10, 14, 16, 18, 19 years old. Six boys and four girls. I need to think of a future with them when I am down instead of thinking how black everything is. Because gotta face it, things are not so hot right now. BUT THINGS WONT ALWAYS BE LIKE THAT!!!!! (Now I'm shouting...
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hi everyone
i just found this thread - I am a single mum and have an almost 3yr old daughter (she was 2 and a bit when I was dx). when i started tx, i was lucky to have insurance that enabled me to stop working temporarily but still have an income - i decided that i was going to take advantage of it so i could focus more on my daughter while i was sick. i am going back to work in 6 weeks time.
i was really sick during chemo, and managed with visiting family members to help, or babysitters when no-one was available. after surgery i was very sore, but managed, and during rads i was fine on my own. i have an ooph scheduled for next week and hope that i will manage mostly by myself (my aunt is coming to stay for the first 4 days to help).
one of the first things i did, while i was waiting for my biopsy results, was go and buy a bed for my daughter becasue i knew i wouldn't be able to get her in and out of her crib. i was really worried how she would react to me losing my hair, and she just accepted it so easily it was amazing. now it is about an inch long and she loves running her fingers through it.
timothea - my daughter also has trouble pronouncing a lot of the consonants - but because she is bilingual then she is likely to be delayed and i have been told not to worry yet. she also recently started stammering - she gets stuck on a word in a sentence and repeats it over and over for ages until she manages to move on with the next word. again, i have been told it is common with bilingual children becauase they need to find the next word. a speech therapist told me to just try to ignore it and only if it keeps happening for more than a couple of months then to go back and get help.
since i got sick, i notice that my daughter is much more clingy to me, cries a lot more about little things. we are going to therapy togehter, but i hope that once i am feeling better she will also get better. i already notice now that she is much better than she was when i was in chemo.
i don't know if you have things like this where you live, but we have been going to a lot of activities run by different organizations for children living with a parent or sibling who has cancer - it's lots of fun for her, i get to meet other adults with cancer, and it's a great support for both of us.
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Leslie- Pretty much! No worries bout the shouting lol, hows everything going with you????
Welcome Latte- thats a nice treat for both y'all- we dont have that here (i wish!)
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Hi Timothea - i don't know what exactly is in your area, but a quick google found several organizations who do stuff for kids whose parents have cancer (some of the links on this page are for kids who have cancer, but some are for kids with cancer in the family). Maybe there is something here that would be good for your daughter, or for your whole family? http://www.cancer.net/patient/Coping/Age-Specific+Information/Cancer+in+Young+Adults/Camps+and+Retreats
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Hi my sisters, hope u don't mind me joining in , what a gread thread , i am always looking in the website but the first thing i do is jumping to HER2+ forum and reading the happy post after scans and the sad stories about being diagnosed with mets etc,.... I really need this thread, I am 38 and i have a 4 year old daughter, i feel really guilty sometimes when i take her to my mom's home to have a rest during chemo , she wants to be with me and play the whole time.She doesn't know about cancer but she knows there is a booboo (my port) and she is checking to see if there is any bandage on it or not , and whenever there is no bandage she is getting so happy and telling to my mom that mommy has no more booboo ! this is really hard but we can do this . I have one more chemo left and then surgery.
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Hi Ladies,
You all are amazing how you get through this tough times. I am a new mom (32 yrs old), i have a 10 month old baby. I was diagnosed last month with breast cancer stage 4, mets in liver and bones. I just started my chemo 3 days ago, i am on FEC for 6 rounds. So far I don't feel any SE.....thanks to all our sister here for giving me advice about taking EMEND.....without knowing it i'll probably nauseous the whole time. I have a very good family support, my husband's side. All my family are back in the Philippines as I just moved in Canada for 2 yrs now. How unfortunately, that we are just starting our life together, full of dreams, just had a baby, finished my schooling, had a new house, then started working, after 2 days of working found out about the CANCER words.....can't believe it is happening to us. My husband is so caring and loving, and inspite of me being in this situation, I feel so blessed of having him, my baby and his family here in Canada. I just feel bad sometimes that I missed my baby so much, my sis-in-law took care of her prior to my chemo, because I was in severe bone pain and couldn't take care of her. So family decided she will stay there for 3 weeks. Oh I missed her so bad
..........so I begged my husband today to take her and bring her back on Monday insted....at least during weekends my husband can take care of her.....as I try not to lift anything for now because I am so afraid of having the bone pain back.....my chemo has been postponed twice before because of severe pain...so helps a lot when I do not carry my baby. It hurts so much when I look at her and wanting to take care but I can't. Maybe she knows that sometimes she wouldn't ask me to get her. She is so adorable, and her 1 year bday is pretty close. My sis-in-law says she will take in charge in planning a party for her. I can't complain though, I still feel that I have been so blessed inspite of my situation. I salute all the mom's who's braving this illness and still managed to the best they could to their children. You will be in my prayers.
Sweetangel :-)
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Hi Sweetangel ,
I know what u mean , I am from Canada but moved to the States 2 years ago and just settled down and that happened to me . Just wanted to tell u that I had the same chemo as yours and my tumor disappeared , I had chemo before surgery, i'm not stage 4 yet but the tumor and lymph nodes disappeared after FEC, after FEC oncologist put me on THC for 6 rounds. I will have my last chemo soon and then surgery. After all is done u can enjoy your baby and your family and the new house .I know that every ones cancer is different but even if it shrinks that's a good sign and i can see that yours was so small and i wonder how did it get to your bones and liver so fast?but u r lucky that u found it because i know that if we didnt and by the time of the mamo it was a huge tumor and all around.Anyway hope we can get over it and enjoy our kids and family.
hugs to you all
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Hi Melania,
Tumor in my breast only measure 0.98cm, way to small, coudn't even detect it through mammogram. Weird it may seem, I actually felt the lump when I was pregnant and told about it to my OBGY and Family Doctor as well, I was told it could just be a milk duct. Says nothing to worry, and if the lump seems to get bigger go back and follow up after 6 months. After a month of breastfeeding, I didn't notice it or feel pain in my breast. It was only last month when I started having pain in my abdomen, it almost felt like an acid. Went to a new doctor, I dont feel comfortable with my old doctor, she doesn't seem to know anything. SO the new doctor thought it was just an infection, could be a gall bladder infection. So my husband book me an ultrasound appointment and got it right away. THe same day, we went to the hospital because I started having pain in my left upper arms and couldn't move it. THe doctor in the hospital gave me pain meds and mentioned to them I just had an ultrasound and they got the result right away. It was shocking when the Dr. told me I have a cancer in my liver, and they need to make sure and ordered a CT Scan right away. It was confirmed in the cT SCAn that I had mets in liver, 3 masses ...and some lesions in my bones. I was totally devastated and my husband was crying so hard....he couldn't believe it. I tried to be strong and ask him to go and talk to his family so he feel good. After a few weeks, I had the biopsy and was confirm that it was a breast cancer, and stage 4 because it has metastasized already. Weird enough there is no nodes involved. Could be the cancer spread through blood stream. I am not sure if the Surgeon is right when he told me could be the lump has been around for 3-5 years. There is no way to know I think. I wasn't given an option, i was just told that I will have my chemo first, but no plan yet for surgery. My husband is working on it, it is a little harder to talk to my ONCO, her nurse always message up the schedule. Funny enough, when I had my first chemo, they forgot to order it to the pharmacy and had to wait for 2 hours to prepare it. Sometimes it seems harder when things doesn't go the way you want them and schedules on meds, appointments are pretty messed up. But my husband has been so supportive and he's the one taking care of it. I am now staying at home and wouldn't let me work. HE says my health is our priority and would like me to get better :-).
We will get through this, with prayers, family, friends. I wish us to be strong and fight this cancer
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You will all be in my prayers.
Jen
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Latte- thank you for the list
My children are too young to do the one in our area still but maybe when they get older (its a sleep-away camp)
Melania- Its hard NOT to feel guilty but remember its for our health and if we didnt do little things to renew ourselves it would be a lot worse for our little ones
Sweetangel- Being stage 4 myself i can tell you i know exactly how you feel. My youngest is now 3 and I sometimes get choked up with emotion when we're in the middle of doing things together and i think "how much more of these good days will there be?" But quickly i let the thought pass....
I also had SEVERE bone pain before i was even dx'd and after a few rounds of chemo it went away (as they shrunk in my bones) Keep up the fight because there will be better days!
The jurys out about having surgery when you're stage 4 or not.... MD Anderson is doing a trial to see if it imporves your survival rate. I opted for the surgery and was so glad i did because there was an area that came back postive for cancer no where near where my tumors were and that ws AFTER chemo so it very well could have gone undetected for a while longer..... GOOD LUCK, YOURE IN MY PRAYERS!
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