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  • patricia48
    patricia48 Member Posts: 121
    edited October 2010
    Maybe it is just me, but this site is doing some weird things with my posts,  so bare with me.  I do not know why all the spacing, lettering, lack of picture inserts is happening. Maybe a new side effect.  Ha!Foot in mouth
  • Majdula
    Majdula Member Posts: 108
    edited August 2013

    Thank you girlfriends for all your help, I feel a lot better today. I guess disappointment has a lot to do with my state of mind - after the AC chemos I would always bounce back once the nauseas were gone and then function normally until the next tx; I even felt very upbeat about my treatment and condition. Now I don't feel nauseated, but I do feel tired most of the time, so I probably just need to adjust to the new situation. Hot flushes from Zoladex and the occasional breathlessness from fluid retention (even at night time...) just make things worse... I'll see my accupuncturist on Tuesday and talk about it with my onc on Thursday to see if they can help.

    Tess You've put what I've been feeling into words so pertinently! You're very right about that BC will probably be a part of our lives forever. Even if we are declared cancer free in the end, there will always be follow-up check ups and a fear of recurrence. A colleague of mine says that I should see this as a momentary disbalance in my body that I am currently setting right and that after that I should see my body as healthy and  balanced and never look back... I wonder if this is possible! On the other hand I realized that going to my Professor's funeral helped me in a way - it was a very peaceful and dignified moment and I was glad to have attended it (if you can ever be glad to go to a funeral).

    Jen Great hair! Hold on, we all feel tired from all this - many factors combine as I can see for myself right now... As for had or have, I'm all for the past tense as soon as possible - we need to move on!

    Wellsey Thank you :-). I like the way you're such a fan of bullriding :-). And yes, one jump at a time!

    Daiva Thanks so much for your prayers. This is an emotional time for us all and being fatigued has always made me feel depressed, which in turn makes me angry against myself (for not coping as I originally wanted, for being such an emotional wreck.... you name it). This is a vicious circle I need and hope to break somehow :-). Enjoy Vegas, you deserve it!

    Patricia Thank you girlfriend! YAY for being done! This is a moment I'm looking forward to and fearing at the same time, but I guess I'd celebrate to :-).

    Keeping you all in my prayers!

  • Drim
    Drim Member Posts: 302
    edited October 2010

    Patricia - congratulations on being done. You have been such an inspiration throughout!

    Daiva - I don't take any sleep aids. I've always been a pretty good sleeper but not as good anymore. I'm gonna be starting tamox in about a week. Let's see what that does to my sleep.

    Jen - you look awesome. Loving the short hair look on you!! Hang in there with your twins. Of course you're tired.

    Tess - I caught myself saying I HAD cancer the other day and then had to pause and think about what that really means. I guess I felt free to say that because now I'm a week out of rads so I have to hope that if there truly was anything left after surgery it is now gone and all the stuff I have to do for the rest of my life (herceptin until May and then pills pills pills) truly will be preventative.

    njbhwgirl - sending you lots of love and hope things will be okay with your mom. I'm still very much looking forward to meeting you and all of the wonderful women I was lucky enough to meet on this journey.

    Denise - how are you feeling? I hope you are better now!!!

    Day, Golfergirl, Leanna, Jenn, Paxton, Kim, Barb, Summer, Wellsey and Magda - Big hugs to all of you!!!

    So I've decided enough is enough with the gray hair so I made an appt. at a salon that specializes in organic products to get my hair colored. I am pretty nervous after what I went through with the cold caps but I feel like my hair can handle it now. I have to leave in an hour! I'll let you know how it went!

    Happy Sunday!

  • patricia48
    patricia48 Member Posts: 121
    edited October 2010

    Drim, hope your hair appt goes well  and it gives you a lift.  I am so happy that your efforts to save your hair paid off for you.  I know it was a lot of work.  NJ girl, I am sorry about your mom. I know how hard this must be for you.  I hope she recovers soon and you are able to have more energy for yourself.  I hope that today brings some rest for all you mothers of little ones.  Denise, I hope you are recovering from your  hospital stay.   Today I am very achey(from the taxol day three)  and I am having to rest between packing, and getting things organized around the house.  I take this time to pray for all of us and to give thanks for all the support and inspiration I have received from each and everyone of you.  

  • sacphotomom
    sacphotomom Member Posts: 366
    edited October 2010

    Hi ladies...just checking in ..I have been sleeping so much ..and have had no energy since getting out of the hospital. I think its the combo of hospital and chemo.  I was very tired the last chemo till all most the day of chemo so ..i it is accumulative then its the chemo..I have read all your post and boy we are true Warriors..We are starting to see the back side of this year and cant wait to give it a good kick in the butt and say hi to 2011...Everyone that is going on a trip have a great time!  Cant wait till I feel up to going some where. We were supposed to do something next week but decided to wait  a little longer..may be for Thanksgiving or earlier...

     H ave my Rads Doc appointment tomorrow.. just the meet and greet so will know more after..

    Have a Great Day!

  • njbhwgirl
    njbhwgirl Member Posts: 295
    edited October 2010

    good morning my friends:

     Weekend was little chilly here in NJ. Good...cause the wig still roasts my head(lol). Spent most of the time getting room set up for my mom. So funny to think that a year ago I was living alone and came home to clean house every day. Come December there will be 5 of us living together with baby things, oxygen tank, walker, etc..My son comes home from AIT training in MO (yeah). Unfortunately I had to give his room to the baby.. My mom is taking the extra bedroom downstairs.  I have to figure out a way for him to have his own room. Maybe my daughter will have to share my bedroom. I am hoping my mom  will be well enough to go home by December. She only lives 1 mile from me so I can make sure she takes her pills both morning and night.  My kitchen is going to look like a pharmacy soon with everyones pills.

    Mom requires oxygen which is freaking me out. My husband had oxygen and it just brings up so many sad sad memories. He only lasted 2 weeks with the tank at home  before he went back to the hospital. But I remember being so happy when that monstrosity tank left my house.

    Mom is akso incontinent now. So now going to deal with adult diapers as well as baby diapers. Does anyone know about adult incontinence? I am clueless. Is there something that she can take or does anyone know what products are the best for her to wear? She is such a sweet lady and I feel so sorry for her. She does not want to burden me but there really is no other option here.

    wow Paris and Vegas...oooh la lah...so happy for you guys. Will be a real treat to get away from it all.

    RE: sleeping pills. I am okay sleeping now. It is almost 7 weeks out for me since last treatment and I feel stronger each day. I believe God waited until I was done with treatments to I could take my mom in.

    packjen: You look fantastic. How many weeks out from chemo is this pic taken? I have no hair and what I do is totally totally grey....Wondering if the wig stifles it a bit...

    Majdula: I feel for you. Sometimes I go in the cellar,have a good try, wipe my eyes and move on. As a matter of fact that is my new motto:  Move on! 

     I believe we all have been great warriers. anyone who has not dealt with this dreaded disease can even imagine our pain. But there is just so much others will listen to,,, So to that statement I am  glad we got US,,,,,,

  • njbhwgirl
    njbhwgirl Member Posts: 295
    edited October 2010

    good morning my friends:

     Weekend was little chilly here in NJ. Good...cause the wig still roasts my head(lol). Spent most of the time getting room set up for my mom. So funny to think that a year ago I was living alone and came home to clean house every day. Come December there will be 5 of us living together with baby things, oxygen tank, walker, etc..My son comes home from AIT training in MO (yeah). Unfortunately I had to give his room to the baby.. My mom is taking the extra bedroom downstairs.  I have to figure out a way for him to have his own room. Maybe my daughter will have to share my bedroom. I am hoping my mom  will be well enough to go home by December. She only lives 1 mile from me so I can make sure she takes her pills both morning and night.  My kitchen is going to look like a pharmacy soon with everyones pills.

    Mom requires oxygen which is freaking me out. My husband had oxygen and it just brings up so many sad sad memories. He only lasted 2 weeks with the tank at home  before he went back to the hospital. But I remember being so happy when that monstrosity tank left my house.

    Mom is akso incontinent now. So now going to deal with adult diapers as well as baby diapers. Does anyone know about adult incontinence? I am clueless. Is there something that she can take or does anyone know what products are the best for her to wear? She is such a sweet lady and I feel so sorry for her. She does not want to burden me but there really is no other option here.

    wow Paris and Vegas...oooh la lah...so happy for you guys. Will be a real treat to get away from it all.

    RE: sleeping pills. I am okay sleeping now. It is almost 7 weeks out for me since last treatment and I feel stronger each day. I believe God waited until I was done with treatments to I could take my mom in.

    packjen: You look fantastic. How many weeks out from chemo is this pic taken? I have no hair and what I do is totally totally grey....Wondering if the wig stifles it a bit...

    Majdula: I feel for you. Sometimes I go in the cellar,have a good try, wipe my eyes and move on. As a matter of fact that is my new motto:  Move on! 

     I believe we all have been great warriers. anyone who has not dealt with this dreaded disease can even imagine our pain. But there is just so much others will listen to,,, So to that statement I am  glad we got US,,,,,,

  • LauraM
    LauraM Member Posts: 251
    edited October 2010

    Hi Ladies -  I have been so busy being back to work and going to rads every morning (70 miles round trip) that I have not had time to check in for a while.

    Everyone that is taking a trip, have a wonderful time!  Congrats to all of you that have finished chemo and are done with Rads.  

    Denise, I am glad you are out of the hospital, I hope you are feeling stronger soon.

    njbhwgirl - I hope your mom feels better soon!

    Jen - love the short hair.  Mine is coming back pretty quickly now too.   It is dark brown mixed with more gray than I had before I started..lol.  I am hoping that as it fills in, the gray won't be as noticeable. 

    Magda - I am glad you are feeling better.

    BC STORY - This weekend I ran into old high school  friend of husbands who has over the years become a friend of mine, she was diagnosed with breast cancer 7 months after she had given birth to a severely handicapped little boy.  I have seen her every year or two since her diagnosis but had never talked to her about bc until this year.  Since she was treated for bc, she has added a little boy and little girl to her family.   While talking about her treatment with me (chemo and rads after lumpectomy) she realized that most of the details of her treatment are fuzzy, like child birth she said she no longer remembers all the details  She said that she doesn't let bc define her.   She said "I had breast cancer and I don't like using the word survivor because it gives bc too much of a hold on my life".   Her saying this really has been making me think how I want to be defined.  I  can't wait until bc is no longer the first thing I think about when I get up and the last thing I think about when I go to bed.  It gives me hope when I talk to people who no longer have bc, and I realize that there is a life after this disease. 

    I have just finished my 10th rad today and I am feeling good so far.  I put fresh aloe from my plant on before and after each session and that it appears to be working.   My feet no longer have blisters and the achiness is getting less and less so I hope that means the chemo is finally going out of my body.   My eye lashes and almost all my eyebrows  fell out about a month after my last chemo and they are finally starting to grow back so that is good too.

     I hope you all have a wonderful safe day!

  • Redbarb804
    Redbarb804 Member Posts: 299
    edited October 2010

    Hi Ladies:  Sorry I haven't posted for awhile again.  7 or 8 soccer games every week has taken up most of my time. 

    To those of you who are taking trips can I come too.  I always tell my pre-schoolers, when they tell me they are going to Disney, that I am going to sneak into their suitcases and go to.  The other day I was joking with a little boy who I have know for about 4 years, about sneaking in his suitcase.  He looked at all 3 teachers who were in the classroom and said, You guys can all come with me.  The innocence of kids is so refreshing!!

    Denise: I hope you are feeling better and better everyday. I can't believe the issues you had with the nurse.  Some people shouldn't be nurses.

    Patricia: Congrats on being done.  I will be able to join you with saying that soon. 

    Jen:   I love your hair.  I am looking forward to my hair getting a little longer so I don't have to wear my wig to work any more.  The hot flashes are killing me and the wig makes them so much worse.

    Tess:  As far as how we define this dreaded disease after treatment is done.  In my mind you take the most postive approach.  Once I am done with my treatment it will be.   I HAD CANCER, NOT HAVE!! Positive thinking has gotten me this far with very few side affects.

    Jersey:  I am so sorry to hear about your mom.  You will both be in my thoughts and prayers.  Don't worry about the shore.  Next year sounds great too. 

    For anyone I missed hope all is going well.  And for anyone who is done Congrats.  I will have my last rads treatment on Friday!!!!!!Laughing  So far so good.  I have alittle peeling under my arm and under my breast.  Started the boost todays, doc said I might have some more swelling and soreness.  but told me I am doing great!  I have been truly blessed with my doctors.  I feel so comfortable with them.  I went to a program today put on by Reading Hospital.  It was called Pink Power.  It was fantastic.  They had several vendors, dinner, a wonderful speaker: I forget her name but she talked about Positive Thinking.  I will get her name and book titles and let you know.  Then at the end they had a panel of doctors to answer questions about treatment, surgery, reconstruction, etc.  It was very informative.  I can't wait until next year. 

    I need to head off to bed.  I hope everyone has a great day tomorrow!!  REmember be Positive!

    Love all you guys!

    Barb

  • patricia48
    patricia48 Member Posts: 121
    edited October 2010

    Good Morning May Warriors,  Barb, how great you will be done on Friday!!! You are so right about positive thinking.  Yesterday, I was reflecting on the Have or Had Cancer issue and I realized that I rarely think about it anymore.  It is amazing, in spite of the fact that I still have rads ahead of me, but my daily thoughts are no longer on cancer. I think I have replaced those thoughts gradually and was not aware this had happened. Laura  Thanks for sharing your friends story.  Her idea about not thinking of being a cancer survivor really resonated with me.  My lashes and eyebrows are gone, and I have found that I can run the mascara brush over the few brows that are left and some of the white hair there will color in.  Most of the hair on my head is white, but I actually like it.  I embraced my grey hair about 5 years ago at age 57.  I stopped coloring and found I did not miss the work of keeping it colored.  Also, I found that as you get older, the lighter color suits the complexion.  But you guys are too young for all that.  Denise, I am so ready to say hello to 2011 with you.  BTW  My son shared with me yesterday that I have another grandchild on the way, in May, and my Sweetie's son is having his first child in April or May, so we have two little bundles on the way.  This will be his first, and my second.  So we will be shopping for bebes in Paris.  Ha!  My GD is only 11 months old, so they will have their hands full.   Jersey I am praying for you and your Full House.  What a change for you.  I am praying that your mom is able to regain some of her independence, and that you will find ways to get the rest and time for yourself that you need. Wishing everyone a good day, and I am so grateful for our sisterhood!  Patricia

  • Majdula
    Majdula Member Posts: 108
    edited October 2010

    Hello girlfriends, first of all let me thank you all for your support. I feel a lot better now. Sonography has shown that the tumor has shrinked even more (knock on wood!) so I'm curious about my blood draw and cancer marker levels tomorrow :-).

    Denise Good to know you're back home and feeling better and moving on :-).

    Jersey Thank you, I feel for you too - those of us who still have parents know how much they suffer though our disease and treatments and when they fall ill themselves it's another weight on our hearts. I keep praying for you both! And yes, a good cry helps release those tensions!

     Laura Great story about that friend of yours - BC definitely shouldn't define us! We can start seeing the world in a different way, but leave the cause of this behind!

    Barb YAY for being almost done :-). I love reading about the children's innocence, what a sweet experience :-).

    Patricia Going to shop for bebes in Paris - nothing better than that :-). Congrats to both you and your sweetie!

    Hugs to all of you!

  • paxton
    paxton Member Posts: 577
    edited October 2010

    I've been saying HAD cancer.  I also don't like to say "MY" cancer so I say "THE" cancer.  This being my 2nd go around, I'm mostly just impatient with the time its taken to get energy back mixed with a little depression.  I was re-dx in december of last year and in some type of tx since january so this whole year just sort of disappeared.  The first 3 months of which they thought I was stage IV and gave me less than 2 yrs to live.  So, I'm bouncing around emotionally from everything.  Its all just so crazy. 

    But off to bed....where does the day go??

  • Ca1Ripken
    Ca1Ripken Member Posts: 1,254
    edited October 2010

    Paxton ((HUGS))... you've had your share... I know you must think, enough already!  I pray this is it... for all of us! 

    Sorry, I'm not responding to everyone!  I've been following all the posts, and everyone is moving along so fast (I know not quick enough for those still having chemo and rads SE).  My surgery is 10/20... my mom is coming up the day before, so in a way, I am dreading that visit.  She was not a "help" this past visit... I felt like she came to 'visit' only, and to tell all of her friends that she was here, you know??  The pre-req visit.  We've talked about what she can do to help when she's here for the surgery, but she's already said stuff like - Bill can take the kids out of the house the first weekend after the surgery if you are not feeling well............duh.  She is not really able to help much with the kids as it is too hard for her to get around on her own.... she cannot get down on the ground, or climb the stairs (she only did it twice this past 6 day visit to shower).  But, I can't tell her not to come.  I just need to have the strength.  :) 

    Hope everyone is having a great day.  I have a GF coming to visit this weekend - should be fun!  And, I went to dinner with a bunch of friends Sunday and had my first beer since April, and it was really good!!  Ahhh!  ;)

  • patricia48
    patricia48 Member Posts: 121
    edited October 2010

    Good Morning May Warriors,  I hope everyone is getting some beautiful fall weather.   It has turned very suddenly cool(60's F) in Ky, and what a change from the 90's to 60's.  I am still walking daily, which I hope will help me with walking in Paris.  Of course all the terrorist info on the news is making my family nervous.  After the terror of cancer, everything else pales in comparison, so we do not intend to cancel our plans. We leave on Friday afternoon.  Paxton, I am glad you are thinking "had"  also I agree about saying "my cancer", from the beginning I have rejected the very thought that this is "mine".  I hope you are continuing to make progress with healthy eating. It is hard some days for all of us.  I have found that some of the chain stores (Marshall's, TJ Max) if you have them, carries some healthy sugar free (with agave or rice sweetner, not artificial sweetners ) cookies and snacks.  They also sell agave sweetner, which is what I use when honey creates too much of it's own flavor.  They are much more affordable than the health food store as they buy close out items.   I will have some sweets in Paris, (pasteries and my favorite Pot de Creme).  I just make a choice that it is worth it to have a special treat (when it comes to processed sugars). Leanna,I will be back before your surgery, but know that I pray for you daily and I hope your mom's visit  is not too stressful.   I found my mom could not help much with my daughter  when she visited, as she was so focused on her own health by that time.  It did help to give her specific tasks, and remind her that would help me so much.  I wish I could help each and every one of you with your kids.  Beer,  yes, I can now have half a beer without ill effects.  I love beer, but I just cannot have much.  The same for wine.  I must have wine in France(I love french wine) but I cannot tolerate much without falling asleep.  That is not very romantic!  Magda, yeah for the tumor shrinking!  Hang in there and keep your thoughts positive. I may not write again for a while.  I am going to to my Sweetie's house this afternoon, and we will leave from there for the airport on Friday. Hugs to all, and you are in my prayers! Patricia  

  • Ca1Ripken
    Ca1Ripken Member Posts: 1,254
    edited October 2010

    Patricia - I could have written your post... you nailed my mom on the head... she was ok when I specifically 'tasked' her to do something, but otherwise did not pick up my subtle hints of needing help (and I just do not ask for help easily... it's a flaw, I know!!).  And wine, puts me straight to sleep too!!  :)  I agree with you on the terrorist threats also... it is what it is.  Have fun, fun, fun on your trip - hope the weather is nice over there, and don't let the rude people get to you :), and watch for dogs over there and tell me if they do not have the smartest dogs in the world.. they can read street signs, I swear (cross, don't cross).  Eat sweets; don't wear yourself out - and we'll see you when you get back!  <3  (((HUGS)))

  • Irishtess
    Irishtess Member Posts: 102
    edited October 2010

    Hi Ladies!  My am rads got moved to late this afternoon, so I had a chance to catch up.  Today is 15 out of 30!  I have some skin irritation (looks splotchy in a few places) so will talk with the rad onc tomorrow.

    Barb:  Wow ~ finishing rads on Friday!  Hope you're able to celebrate reaching that milestone.  It sounds as if you really enjoyed Pink Power, & it's great that you feel so comfortable with your docs.  Will you be on a drug therapy?  BTW:  You can come in my suitcase!  (Loved that story!).

    Drim:  Always happy to hear from you.  Let me know how the organic coloring went.  Although I'm still bald, I do expect to have hair some day, & I don't know if whatever color ~ or lack thereof ~ comes back will suit me!

    LauraM:  Thanks so much for sharing your friend's approach to bc.  Until I read that, I thought "survivor" was one of the most beautiful words in this journey.  Now, I'm re-thinking that.  Today will be your 12th rad ~ how many total? Glad you're not having skin issues.  I'm also driving 70 miles round trip on the days I work from home, & my rads also are in the am.  Theresa has a 2-hour round trip, so she also has a lot of time invested just in getting to tx.

    Leanna:  It seemed as if your surgery date would never arrive, & yet, here it is, just a few weeks away!  I understand your good news/bad news dilemma about your mom!  My mother, also hard of hearing & loud volume control freak, is a drama queen & "Debby Downer" as my sister Margi calls her.  A good example:  To get her passport info, the husband told her I was planning a spring trip.  Two weeks after telling her about the Nov trip, she called my sister-in-law Maureen (almost 6 yrs out from her bc experience & doing great!) & said, "I think there's something wrong with T."  Why?  Because I changed the trip to this year, like I wouldn't make it til spring!!.  Gee, thanks Mom!  She also called my sister Judy after the Michael Douglas cancer story to ask if I'm stage IV.  No, I tell her, I'm Stage III, & no, there's nothing wrong well, other than the obvious!); the spring trip was a ruse to get your passport info.  I also told her that if she says 1 negative thing on this trip, it'll be her last!  Maybe she got the message!  Have a great time with your GF this weekend.

    Magda:  Shrinking tumor is great news ~ you must be so relieved!  I understand how easy it is to be upset and angry with yourself for not overcoming the fatigue, not being able to do what you used to, not having the energy, etc.  I struggled with this throughout surgery & treatment.  The acceptance came just a few weeks ago, & while I still have those moments, they are not as hard to shake as earlier.  Hope the blood results were good.

    njbhwgirl:  What a difference a year can make!  It may seem as if you've consumed all your strength battling bc, but I know you've got more in reserve & will be able to handle your mom's health issues.  Do you have access to visiting nurses or area agency on aging to assist with her daily care?  Also, could your son stay at your mom's house while she's with you?  Just a thought.

    Packjen: Your new photo is beautiful!  I'm sure it's been rough being a parent 24/7 for so long, but you're a strong woman & can handle anything (even if you get tired in the process!).  I think you're on to something, with cancer being the "and then" disease.  Your question also is very provocative (in the traditional sense of the word).  When I had my thyroid cancer surgery last year, I immediately knew it was in the past tense: removal of gland, replacement hormone.  Done.  This time is different.  I certainly don't feel that I "had" breast cancer.  Maybe once rads are done & the PET scan my med onc ordered (11/19) shows no evidence of suspicious metabolic activity, I'll ditch the present tense "have."  How about you?  How do you define it?

    Patricia:  Hope it's not too late to say Bon Voyage!  Eat, drink, enjoy Paree and, as my Irish friends say, "safe journey."  Also, congrats on finishing chemo & on the nouveau bebes!  My last chemo felt anti-climactic, so I can relate to your experience last week.  What a gift from your onc when he corrected you! 

    Paxton: Thanks for defining cancer that way ~ "the" not "my."  It's a really good approach.  This is my 1st ~ & I hope & pray only ~ bc experience.  However, it's the 2nd time I've had had to deal with cancer ~ thyroid cancer dx'd in 2008 & surgery in 2009 ~ so I can appreciate how difficult this year has been for you, esp with Gage to worry about.  Hope it gets a little easier each day.

    Sacphotomom/Denise:  I started to phone you, but worried I'd wake you up.  If you feel up to talking, PM me about a good time.  How did the initial rads meeting go?  How many do you need?  When do you start?

    Summer/Theresa:  Hope rads are going ok.

    wellsey66:  Your info on the bull riding was really interesting.  I didn't read your post until too late to catch the CBS show, but I bet you were cheering your hero on!  When do you finish rads? 

    x-ray/Daiva:  I know you're enjoying your Vegas trip, and the Canyon Ranch Spa is really wonderful!  Postponing your Italy trip to next year so you're not rushed was a good decision ~ you want to make the most of it.  Re sleeping pills:  I take an Ativan each night.  Tried not taking them & didn't sleep.  Here's the thyroid cancer story:  Sept 08 lung CT scan picked up a nodule on my thyroid.  Got ultrasound (not good) then biopsy which suggested papillary carcinoma.  Picked Sloan for treatment & had surgery on 06/15/09.  Pre surgery, we knew there were nodules on the L side, but Dr. Shaha found nodules on the R also, so he took the whole gland.  Sloan's protocol is no radioactive iodine tx if the nodules are less than 2 cm, which mine were.  So, surgery & Synthroid were all I needed.  I really thought that it would be my only cancer issue ~ silly girl!  When I first met with my Sloan breast surgeon on 03/16, I asked her about a link between the cancers.  She said there is no research confirming a causal connection, but 10% of women who get one type, get the other.  However, thyroid cancer is 3x more prevalent in women than men, so it's probably hormone-fueled.  That should have tipped me off!

    Everyone: You are amazing women, & I count all of you as blessings in my life.

  • LibraryJenn
    LibraryJenn Member Posts: 101
    edited October 2010

    Hey Ladies!

    I have been following all the postings on my Blackberry, but just haven't got around to posting yet.  My hands are much better this week than they were last week, but it might have something to do with the fact that I haven't done anything but read and watch TV for the past few days.  It seems like the latest chemo has just knocked me on my ass.  I have NO energy.  Up until Friday I was trying to do an hour on the Wii fit, or at least 20 minutes of pilates, able to do lots in the kitchen, was making bread, and able to do the housework!  Now I'm lucky if I can walk up the stairs without stopping for a break, and I spend more time sitting on the couch than anything else.  I know that it's going to make me better, but geez it's so frustrating!  The DH has been awesome with our little guy - couldn't have asked for anyone better.  I know he's tired at the end of the work day, but no complaints at all the days he gets home and I haven't even thought about what's for supper :)  

    So, my little guy came up to me on Sunday, gave me a great big bear hug and said "I love you Mommy, please get better."  Ah, from the mouths of babes. I totally lost it.  I still can't think about it without big ugly tears running down my ridiculously steroid induced puffy cheeks!

    Yesterday I had an interesting phone call from a co-worker who is on maternity leave...she just found out she has breast cancer.  She is 30 years old with a seven and a half month old baby.  She came over for coffee to share her story.  It just blew me away.  She found the lump just over a year ago when she was pregnant...but just thought it was because her boobs were changing/growing.  She wasn't even going to get it checked out, and had forgot about it until recently when she had her son at the doc for something else.  WOW...once again I'm reminded that women need to be way more pro-active with their health!  Do those self-examines, and if you find something - go to the doctor!  Don't assume it's nothing!  She doesn't know much about her cancer yet, and is having a lumpectomy on Tuesday to have it removed - they had to wait a week for her to dry up as she was still nursing.  My oh my.  I was glad to be there for her.  I couldn't tell her that the disease doesn't suck, but I could tell her that in my experience, it's the not knowing what you're dealing with that is the worst part.  I think now she is just more upset at having to stop nursing and the whole idea that she has cancer hasn't even sunk in yet...

    Leanna - if I mentioned it yet, good luck with your surgery on the 20th!  Would it help to have a list made of all the things that need to be done, and show it to your mom?  That way she can pick what she is able to do, and know that she is helping you.  I found with my mother-in-law, she was glad to help, but just honestly didn't have the ability to see what needed to be done.  (Like - hmm, the dishwasher has ran, perhaps you could help unload it!!)  

    Patricia - Have a blast in Paris!  It sounds like you will though, pastries and wine sound like it to me!  Two new grand babies on the way too!  It sure looks like 2011 will be a fun year for you!

    Tess - So glad that your rad's are going well so far.  How is the throat doing now?  

    Paxton - thanks for sharing your story about it not being "my" cancer.  I agree.  One women I met with told me that you should refer to it as little as possible as it gives it power.  The same goes for talking about stages.  She asked me if I mentioned that I was Stage III to people and told me not to mention it unless people asked, as most people don't know what it means and it just gives the cancer that much more power over our thoughts.  I don't know what to think.  Part of me agrees, but then you hear of some women who are lucky enough to not need chemo or rads, and just have to do a bit of surgery and they are done with treatment.  I guess I wanted people to know that I wasn't taking a year off from work just because I wanted to, and that it was more serious than not.

    Davia - was you it that was asking about sleeping pills?  I don't take any now.  I did have a prescription for Ativan but I haven't taken anything for a few months.  I make sure not to nap in the daytime more than 10-20 minutes, and then I sleep all night.  I was asleep by 10 last night, and didn't wake up until 7:30 this morning!  My onc changed my steroid dosage so I take one less day of them than I used to, and it made a huge difference with insomnia.  Now I don't have it :)  However, I've been taking Tylenol 3's with codeine for the past week to help with the joint and bone pain, so I'm thinking that they might make me more tired too.  They work, but not as well as they did.  I guess the chemo accumulates in our systems and makes each one that much worse.

    Denise - I'm soo sorry that you ended up in the hospital, and that you had such a rotten experience.  I can imagine that you are tired because of it - anyone would be!

    I have surgery booked for next month, November 10th.  Modified radical mastectomy with no recon. at this time.  I'll wait for a year or two and see if I still want it...

    Hugs to everyone that I missed.  Keep smiling :)

    Jenn 

  • paxton
    paxton Member Posts: 577
    edited October 2010

    I don't even know what stage I have this time around.  I figure it doesn't matter.  I think they couldn't really stage it in the beginning because we didn't know if it was mets or not.  After that, I just didn't care about the staging.  I don't really think about being a survivor either.  As long as you're alive, you're a survivor.  My deal is to worry less and enjoy living more.  I find myself thinking most of the time instead of looking around and seeing the beautiful world. 

    On a different note, I totally have a double chin now.  I just can't believe it.  I think I have body dismorphic disorder in reverse.  In my mind I'm young and thin.  I caught a good look at myself the other day and could see my grandma...scary.  Oh well I say. 

    Sorry I don't respond to everybody like others do.  Unless I write it all down as I go, I can't remember when it comes time to type. 

  • sacphotomom
    sacphotomom Member Posts: 366
    edited October 2010

    Hey everyone....Wow I 'm still tired from the last chemo...I'm sure the Colitis doesn't help but dang ..this was my fear when I went in for my last Chemo.  I never felt really good even though it was 21 days later.  I coulndn't imagine I could get more tired..But today I did go for a walk around the park about 1/2 mile, far from my 4 miles, but the fresh air felt great. Its been really cool here too. almost cold I put my scarf on once again, mostly to keep my ears warm while walking. 

    Went for my consult with the Rads Doc.. She is OK, not really a warm person but I don't think I will see much of her during rads ..I will be seeing her during but I really didn't get how often.  So 5 days a week for 5 weeks is the plan.  So far.  I go tomorrow to do the scan and fitting ?  I cant remember the name of the visit..dang chemo brain!. My husband took notes and I cant find them..thought he was putting them into my notebook but I don't see them.  

    I think of my self as still going through the motions of having had cancer.  I never liked the term surviver....Paxton I know what your talking about with your face, I don't recognized myself in the mirror.. I have a huge face, no cheek bones, and a huge waddle under my chin.. I wonder if the PS will fix my neck when I do my boobs...I will be waiting to do them some time later . I just want to be left alone after I'm done with radiation, for quit a while!

    Question for all having radiation right now.. How much of your chest area are they radiating?  How far up above your clavicle are they going.. I'm really not liking the idea of radiation. I have more questions for the Doc before they get started. and after they get pictures.  Mostly I want to clarify something my Surgeon said about how he cut me more then he need to and need to correct some of what he did.. I want to make sure that is written some where because of something the rads doc said about my scaring and how much had to be taken..Makes me wonder if she thinks the cancer was all the way to my back? I have a follow up with the surgeon next week so I can ask him..before they do any radiating. Just need to be sure ! 

    My mother was supposed to come out from Colorado tomorrow ..I glad she decided not to come today (she has a cold).. I am really to tired to deal with her, like most moms she doesn't know what to do and she cooks so different then we do..that she really can't cook for us.. Don't get me wrong I like her cooking, sometimes even miss it..  but I have been so long with out fats and salt in my diet, my stomach hurts just thinking about her cooking..She puts hot peppers and chili in everything..and if she was here I know she would want to cook! Mostly because she doen't like our cooking.. to bland lol!  

    On that note I'm going to make dinner..still kinda on soft foods for my colon but making twice-d baked potato's ! 

    Tess I'm home most afternoons I try to make all my appointment in the morning because if the husband has to drive me its easier for him so after 12 Ca time I'm home. any one else for that matter.,.

    oh yea if you have tried to friend me on Facebook sorry if I haven't friend-ed you back, send me a pm with your real name, so I know who you are ..I got a friend request form some lady thought it was one of you  and she turned out to be an nut job acquaintance of my daughters had to block her! 

  • njbhwgirl
    njbhwgirl Member Posts: 295
    edited October 2010

    Paxton:  so funny about looking like your grandmother. I find I look in the mirror and see my mom. Sometimes I act just like her. You are one beautiful human being. Been through so much and still keep plugging.  I love your motto: worry less and enjoy life more. I admire you as I do everyone on these boards.

    LibraryJenn: my eyes welled up about your little guys comment. He is the reason you will get stronger each day. how sweet

    Irishtess: yes we did get a visiting nurse in yesterday. A health worker will come twice a week. My daughter helps out during the day and I have mom at night(and the baby). She picked up my mom's oxygen tube yesterday and swung it lie a jump rope. I thought the nurse was gonna have a heart attack.(actually it was quite funny) mom laughed.  I did think about my son staying at my moms place but he is not home from the army until Dec 9th. He will be gone from home ovr 5 months. I feel he needs to be home for awhile before I ask him to sleep elsewhere. I had to give the baby his room and he was suppossed to move to the downstairs bedroom. But mom has that one now. I think I will have my daughter move into my bedroom and give him hers until he goes back to college. Yeah for you for being half done with rads....

    It is so great to see all of us making progress.. Most done with chemo, and rads.. I say things can only look up

    Majdula:  so happy about your reports..Shrink away baby

  • Ca1Ripken
    Ca1Ripken Member Posts: 1,254
    edited October 2010

    Tess - That is the other thing about my mom... I don't even want to say this, but I will to you guys... my mom spent the week here telling me about everyone that she knows that has ever passed away from any kind of cancer... And, I want to just scream "come on now, mom, do you really think I want to hear this crap???"  My DH is such a patient person and has been such a rock thru all of this... even he is dreading her next visit.  It's strange that so many of us have similar experiences...  Let us know what your rad onc says about your skin - hope it gets better, but I know that's a lot to ask; so, I hope it doesn't get any worse!  Half way!! 

    Jenn - Such a sweet little guy!  They are so perceptive.  You will get back to feeling like your old self soon; just do what you can!!  So sad about your friend... she's lucky to have you though - I'm still shocked that I have friends that are STILL not having mammos because they are "scared."  Are you effing kidding me???  Get 'em checked ladies... this disease is not partial!!  Oh, and that is a grrreat idea about the list... I am going to do that! 

    Paxton - I love your body dysmorphic story!!  Every night I am still amazed at the guy watching me do the last dishes and clean out the sink.  He's always on my deck just watching me, it's creepy really!!  I also love that you don't care what stage... my onc is the same way - she has never officially ever told me any stage.  And, it doesn't matter... it is what it is and a positive mind-set is what's important.  :)

    Denise - Is it possible for a Rad Onc doctor to have a personality... I think that is an oxymoron... LOL (now, you can all jump me if your's do).  Mine is like a soggy rag too... not someone I would hang out with... but, I think you should feel comfortable that she is informed - she should be in close contact with your onc over treatment!! 

    Jersey - You have your hands full.  I pray your mom is recovering!!  I didn't catch; where are you going to sleep during all of the room switching??  Remember, that your comfort, as much as possible, is important too!! 

    My mom just sent me an email because I didn't answer the phone when she called yesterday.... she called at 6 pm.... and she was just here, and saw that we had something every night (between karate and football) unless we were rained out... and why is she wondering where I was??????  Ugh.  Give me the patience while she is here, or let her really be helpful and not irritate the crap out of me... oh man, that was so negative; than goodness you guys understand!!  :)

    (((HUGS))) all!! 

  • sacphotomom
    sacphotomom Member Posts: 366
    edited October 2010
    Leanna ...Sorry but I had to break out laughing at your comments about your mom..or should I say your little prayer..Give me the patience....its funny no matter what you really do love them, but dang they an be a pain in the ars!
  • GolferGirl
    GolferGirl Member Posts: 121
    edited October 2010

    Hello Fellow May Warriors!  It's been a while since I checked in, but I think about you all the time!  I've been reading posts on my cell phone, so I've been keeping up, just haven't had the chance to write back. 

    Leanna/Jenn - so glad you have your surgery dates.  I'll be keeping you both in my thoughts and prayers on those days, for sure!  Leanna, I'll be very interested to her how the groin lymph node transplant works out; it sounds pretty cool! 

    Denise - so glad you are out of the hospital and now done with chemo.  Hopefully you will feel better each day.

    NJgirl- so sorry about your Mom.  Hang in there!  Maybe we can do a reunion next May instead to celebrate our 1 year of togetherness?!?

    Tess- so glad to hear rads are going well for you.  And your trip is right around the corner!  Patricia's too!  Yay!  Is it just me, or is time flying?

    DRIM- I'm so excited you colored your hair!  Please keep us posted.  I've had 2 haircuts, and my hairdresser thinks my hair can take coloring no problem, but I've been too chicken to try it yet.  But, I am back to styling as usual: blow dryer, mousse, hairspray and all, just not colored yet.  I'm still only washing about every other day, too, but my hair is actually better with less frequent washings.  Who knew?

    On the Mom issue, mine lives about 2 miles away from me.  She doesn't drive, so I only see her when I go over there or pick her up, but it's still about 2x per week.   For some reason, she also feels the need to tell me all kinds of medical horror/downer stories.  Last night I went over for dinner and within 5 minutes she had her poor dog diagnosed with congestive heart failure, kidney disease and hip dysplasia!  He's an old dog, he might very well have all this, but come on!  I thought she was going to get up and dig the hole for him in the yard last night!  Oh, and she just got hearing aids, which she took out to show me and then left on the table while we were talking last night.  Hmmm, I don't think they work that way?   

    I also wanted to let you all know that I went to see a Naturopath doctor last week.  She works out of my cancer center and coordinates with my oncologist.  She sent me for a full blood work up, so I am anxiously awaiting those results.   She says chemo can really mess with your vitamin levels and can also trigger high cholesterol.  I'll be interested to see how I do!  She loaded me up on the following: a multivitamin with natural folic acid (I guess if it's not natural, it can be bad for breast cancer patients), vitamin D and calcium (I was already taking these, but she upped the vitamin D), Fish oil (I haven't tried this one yet, I know I need to, but yuck!), Black Cohosh for the menopause symptoms, something called DIM complex (this is supposed to be the good stuff from broccoli, cabbage, etc in condensed form) and then at night, something called Adrenvive to help cleanse my adrenal glands?? I think? I don't have my notes with me, but if I recall, chemo and menopause induced by chemo beat up your adrenal glands so this helps.  Also, she has me taking melatonin every night (you should Google melatonin and cancer- it might be a breast cancer wonder drug, though there are not yet enough studies to confirm - no money in it for drug companies, so they don't test it.  But check the info out on Google and ask your doctors!)  The melatonin and adrenvive make me sleepy, too, which is a bonus!  I call this "Phase 2".  Phase 1 was treatment, Phase 2 is getting and staying healthy.  She also really pushed yoga and guided imagery.  She was really big on getting regular exercise and de-stressing.  I liked her a lot and am going to pick up a book she suggested called The Healthy Breast Program by Sat Dharam.  If your cancer center offers a naturopath, I'd highly suggest going!

    One last thing, I am so moody lately!  The doc asked if I was depressed or suicidal and I can honestly say no, it's nothing like that.  I just get so irritated so easily these days and I feel just kind of blah.  We are hoping the black cohosh will help, she thinks it may be due to the chemopause.    Anyone else having this problem?  I hope once I start getting to the gym regularly again, that will help, too.  I have only lost 4 of the 12 lbs I gained and am still wearing clothes a size larger than usual.  I've been trying to eat healthy and less, but it's just not going away and that's getting to me, too.  My doc says just keep eating healthy and exercising and it will eventually come off, but you know, I'd like it off sooner than eventually!

    I know I missed some of you, but I should probably cut myself off now!  Sorry to be so wordy; I guess that's what happens when I don't check in regularly!  Sending you lots of good thoughts and ((HUGS))!
  • LibraryJenn
    LibraryJenn Member Posts: 101
    edited October 2010

    Oh ladies, the stories about your mom's is just too funny!  Leanna - good luck with your mom's visit, and GolferGirl, I just read your post about your mom's dog!  My DH came running into the room asking what was so funny :)  That is priceless!!!

    I hear you about the weight thing.  I've gained about 15 lbs so far, and am not impressed.  I was doing really well, but the bone pain/headaches are getting in the way of exercise.  I over did it last week and am paying for it.

    Did anyone suffer from headaches from chemo?  Like, really bad ones?  I have had one for a few days now, and it's getting worse.  I called the cancer centre this morning (I almost passed out when I stood up as it hurt so bad) and I have to go for a CT scan tomorrow "to rule anything else out."  ACK!  What was the "anything" they were talking about?  Any ideas?  They didn't sound too worried, so I'm not either, but seriously...when does it end!!!

  • sacphotomom
    sacphotomom Member Posts: 366
    edited October 2010

    Jenn..  Sorry to hear about your headaches, another "And then"...  I have been getting headaches behind my watery eyes..The ONC says its the Taxotere..And my eye sight is very bad even with my glasses, but  I have been told not to change anything yet because again Its the chemo! And I too get really bad pains after working out.. I have tried to do stomach exercise but it pain in the chest just is to much ..even with Tylenol or Advil..the tightness gets me.  I will be asking my doc about it next week when I see her, and my surgeon too..they will probably say ..take it easy..but I really haven't done any where near the sit ups I used to do..no where near!..some times I wonder if its my port pulling..feelings like it too...and today when I had my arms up for the scan when I put them down it hurt again ..so Yes WHEN WILL IT END! Any way I cant wait to lose weight too..

    Today was my Simulation and tats day.. Happy Birthday to me! When I ever thought of getting a tat for my birthday, is was more of a maybe a little on on my ankle..lol  not micro ones on my chest..I will be liking the ladies in the treatment room way better then the Rads Doc.   Good thing I only have to see her once a week while on Rads!...They have a board up where you check in ..that shows how behind they are running .kinda nice to see..and instead of a camera watching who's there, they have you scan your appointment card, it tells them in the back who is there..My appointment is going to be daily at 10:15am..starting on the 20th ...good thing its close to the park I like to walk, I will do that before or after each appointment..Hey thats a good thing to come out of this...

    DH is bringing my favorite Thai food home for dinner...first time iin a very long time...YUM!

  • Ca1Ripken
    Ca1Ripken Member Posts: 1,254
    edited October 2010

    Jenn - I had bad HAs during chemo too... not sure if they were stress, chemo or related to Zofran, but I had to have an MRI also to rule "anything else out" also.  They have decreased since chemo has been done. 

    GG - I LOL at the story about your mom's dog too... my son was in the room and asked me what I was laughing at!!  And, yes, I am moodier than I was before.  Thanks for reminding me that I need to re-start my vitamins that I stopped taking during chemo. 

    And, I keep meaning to ask everyone.... those that are having the chemopause hot flashes... do they wake you up??  Every hot flash wakes me whether I'm down for the night or taking a nap during the day.  How are we suppose to get good sleep... no wonder I'm moody!  

  • Redbarb804
    Redbarb804 Member Posts: 299
    edited October 2010

    Sacphotomom:  Happy Birthday to you!  I hope the ladies or gentlemen who are giving you your treatment are as great as mine are.  I loved them.  Great sense of humor, supportive and seem really interested in what you are doing in your life.  You could get one of those small ankel tats once you have a 5 year old cancer free birthday!!  Hope your treatments go well.   I will be thinking about you on the 20th.

    GG: Loved the dog story. Sounds like my mom.  I haven't talked to her in about 13 years, but she was always such a downer. 

    Leanna:  I have the same problem with the hot flashes.  Yes they wake me up all night long. I have been moodier than usually too.  Real short with the kids.  I'm hoping that will change some day soon.

    After reading all your posts about vitamins I need to find out what to take and what I can't take.  I am going to try to go to a nutritionist once I know what medications I will be taking .  Tomorrow is the end of another phase of my treatment.  I can't wait but then again you're back to that "Ok now I'm not getting any treatment will this come back?"  Each new phase brings on new fears and anxities. Has anyone start tamoxifen yet?  Just curious about side effects.  Hope everyoe has a great Friday and weekend.

    Barb

  • Redbarb804
    Redbarb804 Member Posts: 299
    edited October 2010

    Sacphotomom:  Happy Birthday to you!  I hope the ladies or gentlemen who are giving you your treatment are as great as mine are.  I loved them.  Great sense of humor, supportive and seem really interested in what you are doing in your life.  You could get one of those small ankel tats once you have a 5 year old cancer free birthday!!  Hope your treatments go well.   I will be thinking about you on the 20th.

    GG: Loved the dog story. Sounds like my mom.  I haven't talked to her in about 13 years, but she was always such a downer. 

    Leanna:  I have the same problem with the hot flashes.  Yes they wake me up all night long. I have been moodier than usually too.  Real short with the kids.  I'm hoping that will change some day soon.

    After reading all your posts about vitamins I need to find out what to take and what I can't take.  I am going to try to go to a nutritionist once I know what medications I will be taking .  Tomorrow is the end of another phase of my treatment.  I can't wait but then again you're back to that "Ok now I'm not getting any treatment will this come back?"  Each new phase brings on new fears and anxities. Has anyone start tamoxifen yet?  Just curious about side effects.  Hope everyoe has a great Friday and weekend.

    Barb

  • Ca1Ripken
    Ca1Ripken Member Posts: 1,254
    edited October 2010

    Denise - Our posts crossed..... Happy Birthday!!!  Hope you get an answer on the chest pain... I'd say it sounds like your port. And, walks with radiation sounds nice! 

    Barb - Congrats on being done, and I understand it is a bit unnerving... like, now what?  As for vitamins... I just started with a multi, and calcium + Vit D.  Let us know what you find out! 

    TGIF... almost!

  • Majdula
    Majdula Member Posts: 108
    edited August 2013

    Good morning ladies!

    I just had my 7th chemo yesterday. My liver panel is still not OK, so they lowered my dose of T - happy about it, because my body has been screaming for help all over the past three weeks. On the bright side, my cancer markers are on normal levels... they alway were but I forgot to ask on my first visit. This is certainly good news!

    Drim Hug you back. Congrats on your hair - mine is starting to grow in, so now I look like a baby, some fuzz and no eyebrows and lashes LOL. My parents like to stroke me on my head like I when I was a child :-).

    Tess For now I'm on high - steroids + the good news I got. I'll try to keep the good mood for as long as I can :-). Sorry to hear about your Mum's attitude...mine made it her strategy to convince herself that there was a mistake somewhere and that they're giving me the treatment "just in case". Says it keeps her from going insane. Needless to say she cried yesterday when I told her about my results (my Dad had to go out for a walk to digest it). It just breaks my heart to see them both suffer in silence for me, so I'm trying to do my best so that we all survive this with as little damage as possible.

    Jersey Good luck with your Mum and your family arrangements. I'm glad she shows a sense of humour - that's always goog :-). I'm sure your son will understand - I suppose he'll be glad to be home, I'd be happy to sleep on the sofa if I were in his place!

    Patricia You're probable on your way now, so just "bon voyage". Don't worry too much about the terrorist attacks... on the other hand they're planning a public transport strike for next week, so I guess you'll have plenty of chance to use your walking training :-).

    Jenn Oh the innocence of children, I don't wonder you started crying - your little guy made my eyes wet too! So sorry about your friend, but it seems more and more of pregnant/post-partum women get breast cancer. My onc told me about this on one of my visits when I told her I wondered if I hadn't got cancer because I was still childless at 33... she seemed genuinely clueless...Try to help your friend as much as you can, she'll need every support she can get!

    On the headache issue, I've no idea. I know they want to check everything, but don't worry, you're probably just tired and stressed out from all this!

    Paxton I agree, we're survivors to life, aren't we. As the saying goes here: "Life is a fight and those who die are cowards"! Once I thought it was a funny line, not any more!

    GolferGirl Great to read about your nathuropath. I'm seing an accupuncturist/homeopath right now and she said we'll start a detox after I'm done with chemo. Moodiness comes from chemo/menopause and from what we've been through. Hang in there, this shall pass!

    Denise Hope that on loosing weight you'll loose your chin too :-). And I have those when-will-it-end feelings now and then too. We need to be strong! Taxotere has drained me out this last time too, so I'll see if the lowered dose helps. The kind of tats you got for your birthday are probably not what you wanted, but as Barb said, you can have some more fun ones later :-).

    Leanna Oh those parents... just stay patient, I guess your Mum just wants to help but she doesn't know how to go about... And yes, hot flashes wake me up all the time. I also get breathless even if I sit still... I guess it's chemo combined with my induced menopause, but it sucks, I totally agree with that! 

    Barb I won't be on tamoxifen, so I can't help really, but I know that some women have no SE's at all, you might be one of them!

    Hugs to all of you and prayers for happy endings for all of us!

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