August 2010 Mastectomy

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  • lago
    lago Member Posts: 17,186
    edited October 2010

    Yes I think the numbness is saving me from the stabbing pains. I have a little in my upper left arm. I was told this can go on for a year. Sounds like yours is rather intense.

    and I am in no shape to play badminton either.

  • Carrol2
    Carrol2 Member Posts: 2,903
    edited October 2010

    Robin you may want to see a physical therapist do some research and see if you might have cording. Sometimes there is pain from it sometimes not. I have almost 100% fleixiiblity but cording is holding em back, but not pain. MY PT says sometiems t can be very painful all the way down teh arm.

  • sunnybluesky
    sunnybluesky Member Posts: 26
    edited October 2010

    Hello August Friends! 

    Well here it is the first day of October--the last three months were quite a whirlwind or maybe more like a tornado.  We are all at least a month post surgery, have our surgical pathology reports filed away, have seen perhaps a radiation oncologist and definitely a medical oncologist and have our treatment plans underway. 

    I've thought about all of this and after all the trauma and drama, after all the get well cards and flowers, after all the lovely meals from friends---well---now it's the rest of our lives!  I think I have to have a plan for that,too.  I know it takes time to come to terms with all this.  I have decided to do things for myself that I never would have spent the money on---it was always the kids needed something, the house needed repairs (I'm sure you can all relate!).  So---I am going to see a physical therapist, a nutritionist and signing up for yoga classes!

    I'd love to hear from you all on how things are going--just a quick check in!

    I had my first fill on Monday---it went well, although the size of the syringe was a bit daunting ( I think someone here pointed that out, so I was prepared---thank you August ladies! ).

    Lago and Robin The rubber band feeling I can relate to.  The feelings are indeed strange, vague pressure and tightness.  I had a skin-sparing mastectomy and the lower part of my boob is numb and hard--it's hard to imagine at this point having anything close to a normal breast!  Ah, but I must be patient and trust that my body will heal.  I took a class in visualization 15 years ago when I was first diagnosed with lupus and to this day I still use those healing images so I'm going to do the same for BC!  Oh--- and if I ever make it to Scotland, I'd love a game of badminton!  I played when i was a child and just last summer was in a fun tournament at a summer family camp!  I swim for my exercise and have to be six weeks post surgery, so another couple weeks before I hit the water.

    I get my OncoDx on Monday.  I am preparing to have chemo, if that is what is necessary---there is a part of me that would just have the chemo so I wouldn't wake up in a panic some morning thinking I should have done more. 

    Dawney --  thanks for sharing your story about your oncogenes. This decision-making, oh my.  I have to do some serious research on just how the study of genes in the tumor can predict things---I tend to delve deeply into things---it's my way of keeping occupied so the fear is not so overwhelming.

    Paula  I guess you will be getting your OncoDx sometime in the first week of October.  And how is your thyroid nodule?  You are in my thoughts for GOOD news.

    Carrol2 and Lago You both start chemo on October 5---sending hugs and hope that all will go well.

    Winterstorm  Lovely music--thanks for the links! 

    Thinking of you all as we go through this TOGETHER!!

  • Halah
    Halah Member Posts: 352
    edited October 2010

    Hi Sunny! I know it is breast cancer awareness month, but I am trying to shut it out of my head! I don't need daily reminders and am trying to stay busy. I organized my apartment to the way it was before surgery because everything needed to be reachable, etc. And it was a big mess! But now I am organized and getting back to normal.

    The places where the drains were are healing more slowly than the incision sites themselves. But all is healing quite nicely. Getting range of motion back slowly, but it is getting there. Feeling pretty normal.  Need the courage to go to the gym on a regular basis so I can get rid of the dog ears underneath my arms that the BS left behind. Emotionally it is really hard to deal with, bad enough to lose my breasts. But hopefully if I lose weight and work out at the gym, then I won't need plastic surgery to get rid of them.

    I'm holding off on the mastectomy bras and breast forums until I get to my ideal weight. I figure in a couple of weeks of more healing I will have enough courage to make a commitment to do this. By then hopefully I will know my oncotype dx test score, and know by then if I need chemo or not. Seeing as I have been sleeping late every morning since surgery, I am trying to get my sleep schedule back on track so that I can go to the gym in the mornings.

    Hugs,

    Mindy :)

  • lago
    lago Member Posts: 17,186
    edited August 2013

    Mindy: I'm in good shape and "thin" according to the doctors. I'm also very small with skinny arms but I still have those flaps. I was doing all sorts of exercises to get rid of them prior to surgery. Granted they are a little worse now. I still have some of my biceps but those triceps are really hard to get rid of. I know for a fact that my doctors don't want me doing any upper body work outs for a while.

    I haven't been back to the gym either. I have been doing power walks for an hour in the morning. I haven't gained any wait so far. Not sure what chemo will do to me. I assume I will retain some fluid that will put a few pounds on. 

    Thing is you really don't lose that much weight in the gym. It helps but you also have to look at what you eat and  your portion size. I really loaded up on veggies and cut down on everything else. A portions size is about the size of your fist. Not all that much. It took me 7 months to lose 10 lbs and now I am at a good weight. (Yeah I know the doctors tell me I'm thin but I'm really where I should be. I'm about 10lbs heavier than when I was in my 20s).

    Be patient. If you lose the weight slowly you have a better chance for it to stay off. The last 10 are the hardest. That's why it took me so long. 

    and although I'm doing reconstruction my PS sent me to a place to get a mastectomy bra. In my case I didn't bother. Just got some nice camisoles… and dumped all my bras.

    I too started putting things back on the higher shelves. 

  • Halah
    Halah Member Posts: 352
    edited October 2010

    Lago, are we taking about the same thing? I'm talking about what I am left with post-op, the dog ears underneath my arm pits on my sides, aka the side breasts, from the side fat. I'm a plus size woman (to put it gently). My BS said mine would go away with weight loss. But I don't want to pursue plastic surgery until I see if I can take care of it myself.

    My experience with losing weight is that if I already eat healthy now and don't gain weight (I actually lost 18 pounds since I moved here in April), then when I introduce exercise, it will boost my metabolism thus will burn more calories. Plus, it will be a combination of weight loss and the work in the gym that will help me reshape my body to the way I want it to be, like getting rid of those pesky dog ears. I used to be athletic in my day so "been there done that". But I suspect there will be some leftover skin on my sides that hopefully would be easy to fix with PS.

    With regards to the gym, I plan on doing the recumbant machine (the thing like a bike) and walking on the treadmill, doing the hill profile on these. I always liked that profile best. But for now I am not going anywhere near the weights. Or, on second thought, perhaps going really light on some of the weight machines; the machines and not the free weights of course. I'm sort of hyper anyway so I think I need to channel my energy. The sooner I get my sleep schedule adjusted, the quicker I can get myself into the gym.

  • lago
    lago Member Posts: 17,186
    edited October 2010

    I'm talking about the triceps muscles in the arm. You know the wings flaps when you wave. ;-)

    I don't go near the weight machines in the gym. Too germy for me.  I just use the elliptical and the treadmill. 1/2 hour on each machine.

    At home I used this book (http://alturl.com/k9r4g) and did most (but not all) the exercises. 3 sets of 10 reps. I was pyramiding weights lower body 5lbs-8lbs-10lbs. Upper body 8lbs-8lbs-10lbs. It will be a while before they let me use those weights again.

    I bought the book 17 years ago. I thought she looked so old. Funny but I'm now a year younger than she is in the picture. She has videos out now.

    And what is this talk about "in the day" I thought you were only 1 year older than me. Did you lie about your birthday on your profile ;D

  • Carrol2
    Carrol2 Member Posts: 2,903
    edited October 2010

    I am no athlete but I was very into working out about 4 months before my surgery so as soon as I could get back to the gym i went. My physical therapist told me to be careful with weights

  • Halah
    Halah Member Posts: 352
    edited October 2010

    Hi Carrol, I thought about physical therapy but I think now I am okay. How has it helped you? Yes I think I can manage a little bit of weights, something to experiment with and only perhaps 3 times per week or less.

    lol lago. With regards to the weight machines, you could always wear medical gloves and masks! "in my day"... I'm not twenty-something anymore! I just haven't been active in 10 years and it's caught up to me. I used to be into cycling and running and backpacking and hiking and tennis and .... But running and backpacking aren't very good for the joints. And cycling, well... you might get hit by a car. I was young and stupid and am amazed at how fearless I was.

    But I think hiking and camping are perfect. Not far from here is a nature sanctuary which is like an arboretum, like being out in the wilderness. Awesome! A friend of mine and I are going for a picnic there tomorrow.

    I do I think I am physically prepared for camping lol.

  • lago
    lago Member Posts: 17,186
    edited October 2010

    Mindy I'm 49. I'm not 20 something either. Do I sound that young?

  • Carrol2
    Carrol2 Member Posts: 2,903
    edited October 2010

    I am 45 no spring chicken either lol

  • sunnybluesky
    sunnybluesky Member Posts: 26
    edited October 2010
    Oh my--I'm old enough to be your mother LOL!  I ran a marathon 25 years and 40 pounds ago!  That was right before I got pregnant.  I swim and walk and use the reclining bike at the Y.  I am having no luck in losing weight--would like to drop twenty--especially before my final second stage reconstruction.  I have enough diet books to start a library!  Smile
  • Halah
    Halah Member Posts: 352
    edited October 2010

    Sorry I deleted my post. I thought I was stepping on your toes, lago. But as you said in your PM, I was not. I am 50 not any older than that! I guess I'm just having a mid life crisis. Isn't that explanation enough?

  • smurfiep
    smurfiep Member Posts: 33
    edited October 2010

    Greetings everyone! I am so excited to report that I will be having my exchange surgery on Oct 27!! I am very excited, but at the same time, I am worried that I will be much bigger than I was before. My PS says that the expanders expand the tissue and make my chest look "boxy" right now (it looks wide) but that once the surgery is done, the implants will add projection rather than width. Going to meet with him again on the 13th and I will share my concerns with him.

    On the other hand, I have been feeling quite down. Today is my first day back at work and I really am in a funk. I think after all these months of stress, focus on recovery, going to appts, etc., I am finally experiencing a sense of grieving. I have felt on the verge of tears all weekend (perhaps it was the thought of work - LOL!) Have any of your girls looked into a support group yet? I mean this is probably the best support group I have found. I'm not sure if going and sitting/seeing other BC survivors would make me feel better or worse. And the pink ribbons everywhere...that's enough to drive me to drink!!!

    ~Smurfie

  • Halah
    Halah Member Posts: 352
    edited October 2010

    Smurfie, I go to a support group that meets once a month. I've gone twice. No pink ribbons there. We had a speaker the first meeting I went to. This last one we talked. It really helped to talk to other women in real life about my concerns. Talked one on one and also as a group. What a big difference. But yes, this thread of ladies has helped tremendously. I'm looking for another support group so that I can go twice a month instead of just once a month.

  • lovesnature
    lovesnature Member Posts: 82
    edited October 2010

    Wow smurfie that is soon! I'm still getting my once a week fills, then I just chill for a couple months with the expanders. My surgery likely will be January. It's interesting how PS are so different. I am happy to report the fills have little discomfort. 

    Before my surgery I reallly, really could have used a support group. I was pretty much a mess! After surgery I did mourn for my old familiar self in the mirror.  My relief and thankfullness at having a great prognosis has done wonders for my outlook. I'm actually quite happy, sometimes giddy..

    I sometimes wonder if I'm going to have some sort of rebound of emotion  (not the good kind) during my second stage of reconstruction.

    I'm really grateful to you ladies, I don't post much, I do read.

  • RobinLM
    RobinLM Member Posts: 143
    edited October 2010

    I've found it very difficult to maintain my 'fighting weight' too.....I'm 53 and I've been menopausal for about a year and i've put on a bit - despite playing a lot of sport, walking dogs etc..... managing to not put any more on but losing it is very difficult. I'm hoping to lose a bit as I get back into my sport. When can we get back to the gym, doing arm things etc? My tum where it was 'skinned' doesn't feel righteither, i have sternum pain and along the lower side of my lowest ribs - vey strange.....

    I'm jealous of you lago Wink - taking no drugs at all, I'm still getting major spasms..... feels like a really tight nylon tie around my back and accross my nipples right now.... horrible....I think it's the muscles the PS moved - ugghh. I get to see my PS on 12th...... going to take in my human body muscles book and ask him exactly what he's done.

    I've got a 'dogs ear' under my left arm, at bra level - wirse where the scar ends..... looks like flab but maybe is fluid..... it quivers if I walk quickly - horrid! My right hand side was a bit swollen but has gone straight back to normal, the scar is there but not too bad....

    Anyone got puckering at the corner of the scars? My scars toward the middle both have puckering, pretty ugly try not to look too closely.

    I'm feeling a bit the same Loves Nature, I've been very fortunate and don't have to have further treatment, but I've not really mourned....only felt relief so far....I sometimes think I might be heading for a fall at some stage.

    Aren't you getting your first Chemo tomorrow Lago, you too Carrol? I hope it goes OK and that you both cope OK, and you've got all of us supporting you x

     peaceful evening to all

    Robin

  • lago
    lago Member Posts: 17,186
    edited August 2013

    Yes Robin, Carol & I are going for our first chemo tx tomorrow. I had my port placed early this moring. It feels a little weird but not too painful… and I'm still not taking pain meds Robin.

    But Robin don't you worry. With chemo & Nuelasta coming tomorrow and Wednesday I'm bound to eventually get some pain. My port surgeon said no ibuprofen or Aleve for 1 week. These are the drugs that are recommended to reduce the pain from Nuelasta so I might have to resort to narcotics. But who knows I may luck out and get no bone/muscle pain.

    I'm thinking my main problems will be nausea and fatigue. The nausea drugs better work. I'm not waiting either. I'm taking them right from the get go.

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    I am 10lbs heavier than I was 5-6 years ago… but I was too thin. I had gone back to school. Seems every time I'm in school I lose weight. Fun but expensive way to go on a diet. I hope I can maintain what I have now. Or at least drop it again by next July. With Chemo ending in February I think that's a realistic time frame if I put 8-10lbs on during chemo. Like I said I feel like I've already put on some due to peri menopause.

  • Paula1231
    Paula1231 Member Posts: 456
    edited August 2013

    My PS removed the "side breast" along with the expander alloderm surgery.  I am pretty tight and lean from the arm pit to my bra line.  I asked him in advance to not leave me doggie ears.  I used to have a little pillow there, but it is gone.  This can be a real issue if you are a bit chunky monkey like I am.  I had read posts of ladies on this blog who complained about the dog ears on the sides.  My PS said when he does my maxopexy on the RB he will remove my side boobie there too so I match.  They can do this and remove your ears if you are unhappy during the reconstruct phase.  Down side is that I am also numb there.  Sunny, Robin Smurfie and Carrol, it is really good to read your posts.

    Smurfie, the tears are a good thing.  Work will take your mind of off things and soon you will be focused on other work stuff.  Just be good to yourself and if you get tired, go home or take a small walk.   Wonderful news about the reconstruct.  I am still waiting for OncoDx and I don't know if I will have chemo.  If I do the reconstruct will be postponed for six months or so.  : (

  • RobinLM
    RobinLM Member Posts: 143
    edited October 2010

    Lago, sorry, I'm a bit ignorant but what is Nuelasta and why will it give you bone pain..... thats grim..... Thinkngi about you both today - sending positive vibes... let us know how you are x

    So is everyone totally numb accross the boobie? I can feel stuff all over - not the same obviously, maybe a little numb under left arm at podgy bit....

    Robin

  • lago
    lago Member Posts: 17,186
    edited October 2010

    Neulasta makes you white count go up. Your bones hurt because its the bone marrow that makes the white cells. It is given in a syringe.

    I'm doing great so far. Chemo process started at 7:30 was done at 1:30. Just a little dizzy from the Benadryl.

    Bobbies are numb. Arm pits are partly coming back although not enough sensation to shave… not that I can fully life my arms yet but getting there.

  • RobinLM
    RobinLM Member Posts: 143
    edited October 2010

    Lago, great to hear that you are doing so well. How often will  you have that and how many times?

    x

  • lago
    lago Member Posts: 17,186
    edited August 2013

    Total of 6X every 3 weeks. I finish Jan.18th. 3.5 months. I'm excited. I thought I would finish in Feb. an entire month later. My birthday is at the beginning of Feb. I'm excited to be finished before I turn 50. Now if only I can get out of radiation… I find out today.

    I am experiencing a little heartburn but not to bad. Prilosuck (Prilosec) even perscription strenght has never worked for me. If it gets worse I'll need to call to change to something else.

    BTW I haven't morned the loss of my boobs either. Granted mine weren't very big to start with. I'm more worried about all my hair growing back but if it doesn't I can always get the expensive wig. Yes they have an app for that.

  • Nbb1032
    Nbb1032 Member Posts: 74
    edited October 2010

    Hi Everyone,

    Been reading all of your posts.   Sorry that some of you are going through chemo.  Anyone else start besides Lago and carrol?   You guys are very brave.  I feel very lucky.   

    Smurfie, it was really strange to read your post because just this week I have felt very down also.  In fact yesterday (exactly 2 months post op) I finally cried over the loss of my breasts.  I was taking a bath and looked down and totally lost it.   I don't know why it took so long but maybe like you said our focus was on recovery and treatment.  We had our surgeries on the same day if you recall, so it was really weird to hear you are going through the same thing.  I am happy for you that your exchange is in October - I couldn't get in until the week before Thanksgiving.  (That is the down side of going to a famous teaching hospital - they are so  busy).   I am also very wide - pumped up to 500cc and going for a 500cc round smooth high - profile style.   How many cc's are you?     

    Since everyone is comparing notes - My foobs are very misshapen with tucks and dogears and who knows what.  I told the PS I felt like an English Muffin with all the nooks and crannies.  I am hoping the extra skin can be cut off so I look somewhat normal.   He did say that he doesn't do  the liposuction tweaks until three months after the exchange.   I am totally numb across the foobs but have feeling in the cleavage.  Alot of nerve pain still under the left arm and numbness on my side.  

    Good luck to those still waiting for their oncotype DX scores.   Good to hear from you all.

  • lago
    lago Member Posts: 17,186
    edited October 2010

    Quick note: NO RADS!!!!

    I'm so excited.

  • RobinLM
    RobinLM Member Posts: 143
    edited October 2010

    Brilliant news Lago - so pleased for you.... Smile That's a lot of chemicals isn't it - sorry - dumb thing to say because it wouldn't work otherwise would it...... Mine weren't big either, a tad bigger than now but droopy.....

    Went to the physio yesterday, she told me my ROM is almost back to normal - YIPPEE! She gave me extra exercises etc to strengthen my shoulders for preparation to go back to playing badminton..... I'm very excited about that! Was devoutly doing them last night - really motivated now Smile I have a plan: see PS next tuesday..... physio on 22nd, then hopefully back to normal activities........

    Anyone heard how Carrol is doing? Lots of love to you Carrol if you are reading not posting. x

  • lago
    lago Member Posts: 17,186
    edited October 2010

    Carrol and I have been chatting through PM. We are on the same chemo schedule… chemo buddies although she only has 4 rounds, I have 6 + Herceptin. She posts in the "Starting Chemo in October 2010" as well.

    Last night she was a little queasy (actually both of us feeling a little weird) but seemed to be doing OK. We are both waiting to see what kind of reaction we get from the Neulasta shot. It takes about 24 hours. I took mine at about 8 yesterday so I have a few more hours to go.

    So far this morning I feel fine although I seem to be putting on about 1 lb a day. I assume it's water gain. If I add another tomorrow I will let the doctor/nurse know.  My tummy is a bit bloaded which will happen after I eat but I usually don't wake up to a bloated stomach.

    The no rads thing is huge for me. Since it would have been my left side I was worried about heart issues especially since I am already doing Herceptin. I'm also worried about osteoporosis so then there was the rib thing too. And, possible long term effects like another cancer, complications to reconstruction, delaying this entire process. I'm sure I would have handled it just fine but so happy I don't have to do that journey. I mean I gave up 2 boobs, 14 nodes and I'm letting them poison me I needed some kind of a break. My treatment has been pretty aggressive so far. I think the clear nodes saved me from radiation.

  • lago
    lago Member Posts: 17,186
    edited October 2010
    Robin good news about the physical therapy. Glad you are moving again. I too find my left arm getting so much better. It was much worse than the right. Unfortunately I can't exercise the right for at least a few more days if not another week because of the port placement. I had to cancel all my physical therapy for a couple of weeks.
  • lovesnature
    lovesnature Member Posts: 82
    edited October 2010

    Thinking of our ladies, who are meeting the challenge of further treatment. I'm sorry you have to go through that. Hopefully your side effects will be minimal, and you can put this crap behind you.

    I'm amazed that some of you are having your exchanges this month. Shoot I'm stuck with mine till January!!!! Wonder why PS's vary soo much in their methods. Makes you wonder, don't it?

  • Halah
    Halah Member Posts: 352
    edited October 2010

    Lago, no rads! Glad to hear that. :D

    Yes I am waiting for the results of my oncotype dx test.Turns out my post-op weight loss was only 6 pounds and not 15! There is no way I gained 10 pounds in one week and not feel a difference in the fitting of my clothes. Anyone get their flu shot yet? A lady at a support group said not to get the shot in the arm but someplace else. The nurse yesterday told me it probably had to do with possible lymphedema. Not sure how long post op we need to be concerned about that.

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