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Oh yeah! almost forgot... I found out about this GREAT program (AFTER I was done with chemo!) it's called Chemo Angels (www.chemoangels.com) and if you sign up one of the "angels" will send you a small gift every month through out your treatment. I would higly recommend it to any of you ladies currently in chemo or about to start (especially if you are far from family or friends). I know it REALLY made me feel good whenever I would get a card or a book or something from my friends or family

Hugs, Mari
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Hi girlies,
I had TC x 4 too. I was ok for the first 3 days (while on the steroids and anti-nausea meds) but then I felt a little crappy. Mainly a sore mouth, sore stomach, complete lack of taste buds (almost everything tasted metallic - it was like I had a coin in my mouth - uugghh!). I also got quite badly constipated after the first cycle. I started to feel 'normal' again by day 10 - 12.
I found cycles 3 and 4 to be the worst. My body was able to take the first 2 hits, but was defo starting to weaken. I also got quite a lot of nose-bleeds even though my blood counts were fine - guess chemo really does affect every cell in your body!!
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Treadsoftly - my experience was pretty much the same as yours. First week was worst (apart from the steroid days) second week had to take it wasy as I got tired real easy, but felt pretty good all things consdered in 3rd week. Overall I found it doable.
I'm just about finished with my rads now - only 5 boosts to go yay! Then will be starting on the tamoxifen. Will be interesting to see what the side effects will be - so hard to tell with so many horror stories around but am willing to give it a go. My onc just said to make sure I report any SEs and they hopefully can sort them out for me as they don't want me to STOP taking it so well see.
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Hey TreadSoftly,
Is TC Taxotere or Taxol? I'm on taxotere and I experienced the same SEs as you including the nose bleeds! The inside of my nose is dry and sore. It kind of feels like it has cracks inside. What did you do to relieve your nose? I am wondering if I could put some lubricant or something in my nostrils?? I will have to remember to ask my oncologist on Friday...
It seems like taxane chemos are hardcore on the body, but are excellent at killing cancer cells!
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Hey ladies, I was on Taxol for a couple months and had really bad nose problems. I'd have to blow my nose a lot, and I'd see a lot of blood...it was also very dry and sore. My onc said I could put some Aquaphor or Vaseline inside. I would usually do it at bedtime, and it definitely helped.
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Hey Mel,
Thanks for the tip! I have Vaseline, but it's the baby powder scent... I'll give it a try. Last night I used polysporin because I was desperate and couldn't think of anything else. Maybe olive oil would help too???
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Does anyone have fluid retention from Taxol/Taxotere? I look puffy. Especially my thighs! The puffiness is really accentuating my cellulite! FABULOUS!!
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What are you girls doing to preserve fertility prior to chemo?
I had a horrible experience today with a fertility doc. i actually left the office crying. he said "if you were my daughter i would tell you to fertilize your eggs...then again if you were my daughter i woud not have let you get the lumpectomy, i would have said bi lateral mastactomy."
this made me feel so horrible that i could barely focus on what he was saying. i simply wanted to know statistics on zoladex vs. actually egg harvestation.
he said "this is a no brainer. do the egg harvesting."
i'm suppossed to start chemo in one week, and the thought of putting it off another 8 - 10 weeks is psychologically demolishing. i just don't want to blame myself for opting not to harvest my eggs, if i can't get pregnant.
is anyone out there satisfied with zoladex?
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shiramg - sorry you had such a rough time at the fertility specialist. He really sounds very insensitive and not at all understanding what you were going through. I was told by my Onc pre-chemo that with 4 cycles of TC, he was over 90% certain that my periods would return and fertility would be preserved. We did not discuss egg harvesting at all. Zoladex was mentioned but he felt that with only 4 cycles and my young age (29), that my ovaries would not need it. Turned out he was right, and 3 months after my last TC, my period returned. I dont know what chemo you are about to start, I know some are much harder on fertility than others. What was your Onc's opinion?
Nanababy - I didnt get any fluid retention from taxotere but its defo a recognised side effect. I just used a tiny bit of vaselene on my nose at night for the nosebleeds and it seemed to do the trick. Liking the new profile pic - bet you never knew a buzz cut would suit you so much!
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Hi Tread, I also have a nose bleeding problem in recent months. Sometimes during period or even when I am just stressed out. Is Vaselene OTC? Thanks.
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shiramg - I explored fertility treatments prior to chemo. IVF - embryo preservation. My husband and I decided not to do it because of the timing. I would have had to postpone my neoadjuvant chemo 1 month! I didn't want to risk having my cancer get worse. My oncologist also reassured me that because of my young age, my periods would most likely come back after chemo. There are risks involved with egg harvesting too, that you need to consider. They stick a needle through the uterine wall to get the eggs from your ovaries. That's if your ovaries are close enough to your uterus. There is a possibility of puncturing intestines and risks of infection. Plus you need to inject yourself with hormones for a few weeks to stimulate +++ follicle development. I would discuss fertility preservation with your oncologist. The fertility doctor doesn't sound to be very understanding.
About the nasal dryness and nose bleeds... my pharmacist recommended I use Necaris nasal gel. I used it last night, and it did the trick!
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i decided not to go through with the egg harvesting. it is too time consuming and at this point, i really want to get the chemo over with. my oncologist recommended using zoladex though there is not enough info proving it works.
chemo in T-6 days. i'm so nervous that i'm having dreams every night. i live alone. do you girls recommend a friend sleeping over or would i be better off alone?
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shiramg - I live alone too. After my surgery, my mom stayed with me for 2 weeks and then my aunt for 1...and I went crazy. I'm very used to being independent. During chemo, none of my friends slept over, but they stopped by daily to help with chores and meals and stuff. You're probably going to be pretty tired, so it helps to have someone else take care of the trash, laundry, cleaning, etc. But there are moments when I just wanted to be alone too. When you're not feeling that well, sometimes the last thing you want is for someone to see you. Are you going to have someone go with you to your treatments?
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Hey Shiramg, If you could have someone stay with you for a while, I think that would be great, especially since you don't know how your body will take the chemo yet. My first dose for me was the worst, just because I felt really sick to my stomach and I ended up having a bad reaction to the pills they gave me for nausea, so I ended up throwing up a lot..once they switched my pills I was better to handle the nausea. Also like Mel said, you will be tired so any extra help should be welcomed!
There is an organization (www.lotsahelpinghands.com) where volunteers come to your house and do some cleaning for you. They didn't have anyone in my area, but since you are in NY I'm sure you shouldnt have a problem finding someone out there. I know it's easier said than done, but try to relax and keep your mind on other things.. I think the anticipation is one of the hardest parts.. ((Hugs))Mari
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My mum insisted that I stay at home the night of chemo although there was really no need for it at all. I think it was mainly to keep her happy that I wasnt in the toilet all night getting sick!!
I got great news today - I went in for my first mammogram and ultrasound since finishing treatment and all is completely NORMAL!!
Such a wonderful feeling! -
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Treadsoftly! I'm so HAPPY FOR YOU!!!! I hope you had a great time celebrating! I wish I get complete response from chemo
) So far it has shrunk like crazy!!! I have 3 more cyclces left.... Plenty of time to exterminate that bitch of a tumor!I saw my onc. today. He told me my neutrophils were only 0.1, when I went to the clinic 2 weeks ago because I felt crappy! The lowest "safe" level should be 0.5. So, I'll be getting the Neulasta shot this time. I hope my bones don't ache too much! He gave me a prescription for Dilaudid. And he told me I most likely won't be getting tissue expanders during my mastectomy
He says they don't want anything to complicate surgery. That I should focus on getting rid of the cancer first, then worry about the cosmetic part later
It makes sense, but it was hard to hear. I'll have to get myself a good prosthesis. -
Sorry havent been here! Nice to see some new faces! I had some major family drama pop off! My sister in law actually thought i was faking my cancer so she didnt have to give me the $5,000 earned in a fundraiser over the weekend she sent the police to my chemo treatment on monday. But of course i o have cancer so she had to give the check to me... But it just got so NASTY! Today is the first day that i felt like getting on line since! This whole ordeal unfolded on freaking facebook! Talk about embarassing! I didnt even want to get my nuelasta shot cuz i was so embarassed! I mean my oncologist was questioned by the police! But its total water under the bridge now! I am def not talking to a few people for the rest of my life but eh whatever!
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Sorry havent been here! Nice to see some new faces! I had some major family drama pop off! My sister in law actually thought i was faking my cancer so she didnt have to give me the $5,000 earned in a fundraiser over the weekend she sent the police to my chemo treatment on monday. But of course i o have cancer so she had to give the check to me... But it just got so NASTY! Today is the first day that i felt like getting on line since! This whole ordeal unfolded on freaking facebook! Talk about embarassing! I didnt even want to get my nuelasta shot cuz i was so embarassed! I mean my oncologist was questioned by the police! But its total water under the bridge now! I am def not talking to a few people for the rest of my life but eh whatever!
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fluid retention- i am on taxotere and my hands and feet are puffy, i had to take of my wedding ring because it was cutting into my fat fingers!!!! hopefully this too shall pass!
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shiramg - probably too late but I have been away so haven't been able to post. I did zoladex during my chemo. My periods stopped during chemo and returned 7 weeks after my last chemo. So i'm thinking the zoladex did its job I guess time will tell. I also didn't do the egg collection so the zoladex was the one thing I could do to try and preserve my fertility. So sorry your specialist wasn't very helpful. I was lucky my specialist discussed all of our options - and said that as I was young (28) I could be confident that my periods would return and that there shouldn't be any long term problems with my fertility. Good luck with your decisions.
texasrose361 - i had taxotere and yes the fluid retention was there. I also put on a couple of kilos due to the steroids (couldn't stop eating!). Things have settled now and I'm just trying to build up my strength again before I worry about losing those couple of kilos. I think the loss of muscle tone is the main problem for me so I'm starting yoga next week - should be interesting.
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DancerMel- I wanna get back into yoga too- i do feel like my muscle tone has gone to flab! Before my dx i used to do the p90x workout and they have a yoga DVD, i misplaced my dvds in my recent move but as soon as i locate it i am starting it back up!
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Had Taxotere yesterday and will get my Neulasta shot today at 4pm. When should I start taking pain meds? I don't want to go through the pain I experienced last cycle of Taxotere alone! Onc. gave me 1mg of Dilaudid.
I'm starting to lose my taste already!
Eating some tasty goodies tonight. Steak, creamed spinach, mashed potatoes, and gravy! Then swiss buttercream cake for dessert! Then onto crap bland food for the next 2 weeks like oatmeal, red river, soup and watery fruits and veggies. I have to compensate for all the high fat junk I've been eating lately!!! Holy Jeez! I could eat a horse when I have my taste!Take Care girls! Stay Strong! October is Breast Cancer Awareness month! Spread the word! It can happen to anyone! Screen, screen, screen, screen!
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Sorry Nannababy, cant help you with pain meds - I didnt get Neulasta during my chemo. I can empathise with the taste!! I found that if I ate very strong tasting foods while my taste was gone, it really helped...incl mint icecream etc, which I became a major fan of!! You are right re Breast Cancer Awareness month - its just a bittersweet time of the year for me, it was this time last year that I was diagnosed, and I cant help but remember...oh, this time last year I had my SLN biopsy, etc etc....but you are 100% right!! Awareness is Key!!
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i have some advice re: neulasta pain. its not technianlly proven but i've heard from several girls that taking clariton the day of and continuing for the next 7 days will help. i am getting my first shot today. wish me luck, and please share any other advice you may have.
also, did anyone get chest pain? from the TC?
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TreadSoftly - Did you have surgery before chemo? I'm just wondering, because I did chemo before surgery. And because my tumor is almost all gone, I am wondering if the surgery will be less invasive as a result???
Shiramg - I have heard/read about Cleratin before Neulasta shot. But, because I didn't get to speak to my onc. about it first, I didn't want to try it. I'm on a few meds for depression, anxiety, pain, steroids etc. that I don't want any interactions. I did my first Taxotere without the Neulasta shot and had ++ body aches and pain all over. I will keep you all updated as to when/if I feel pain.
I had my 2nd Taxotere on Tuesday, Neulasta yesterday, and so far everything is going good
No pain, no G.I issues, only taste is affect so far. -
Hi Nannababy, Yes I did TC x 4 pre surgery (lumpectomy). My tumour was 3cm and very round and full pre-chemo. Post chemo, it was down to approx 2.8cm and had lost a lot of its fullness, i.e. it felt more like a shrivelled prune! My onc did tell me that ER positive tumours often do not show as good a response as ER negative tumours and not to be expecting miracles with chemo...
I think the purpose of chemo for me was more to reduce the chances of recurrence rather than trying to shrink it pre-surgery, as they told me I could have a lumpectomy first, and then the TC x 4 if I wanted. To be honest, I wanted to get the chemo out of the way as fast as possible and let my hair start growing again! Im also happy with my lumpectomy scar. There is a slight indentation on my boob that side but the scar is fading rapidly, my boyfriend and I call it my 'battle wound'!!
Fingers crossed this cycle of taxotere will go smoothly for you Nannababy!
Shiramg - never experienced any chest pain from TC....
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the chest pain was from the steroids and they lowered my dose. i have a sensitive heart

when does they nausea start? i felt a little nauseas for about 20 min tonight, but was able to still able to eat a healthy din!
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Shira - i didn't actually get any nausea during my 4 cycles of TC. I found as long as I kept food in my tummy (I ate something every 2 hours) I felt fine. THere was one morning when I'd gone to bed early the night before and woke a bit later so had gone ages without eating anything that I felt a little nausea but took an extra anti-nasuea pill that I had just in case and felt much better by lunch time. I think my onc said that nausea wasn't usually associated with TC - but she also said that if I did suffer any to tell her as there are heaps of different anti-nasuea meds around these days and sometimes something else will work better, so don't put up with it if you do get nausea.
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You are supposed to do the nulesta shot anytime 24 hours after the chemo. If you do it before then the shot is apparently useless.
Nannababy: The first time I felt pain after the Nulesta shot I took tylanol but it didn't do much so my Onc gave me codeine and it helped. So the second time I had the nulesta shot I started taking the codeine the day of my shot hoping it would take away the pain. Needless to say, it made me sick and I started puking and it gave me a bad stomach ache. So the third time, I started taking the codeine right when I started feeling pain and it seemed to help!
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