Marijuana prevents breast cancer metastasis?

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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited September 2010

    www.washingtonstatecannabis.com

    We are a clinic that will help you obtain your alternative medication legally.

  • Alyad
    Alyad Member Posts: 817
    edited September 2010

    I have tried using a Volcano Vaporizer  and it is fantastic- it heats the herb just enough to form a vapor without combustion - much much better on the lungs- but they are not cheap- 500 bucks. We just borrowed one from a friend to try it. I smoked during chemo- it helped me a lot.

  • Eve1956
    Eve1956 Member Posts: 183
    edited September 2010

    I know you can cook with it but don't know much about it. My sister doesn't smoke but her BF does and apparently a friend gave him some cookies and he put them in their freezer. My sister was craving a cookie and found them and said it was good and didn't taste different.

    She had us laughing when she described how she just wanted to sit and enjoy the sunshine for a good hour, then started thinking something was happening. She eventually went in and laid down and took a nap, but then was OK.

    Her BF said the person who gave him the cookies said she and her husband normally split a cookie! My poor sister ate a whole one, but thank God she doesn't have much of a sweet tooth, as she would have eaten more!

    I was soooo sick yesterday and when all the nausea meds weren't working I had 2 puffs from my vaporizer and the nausea left immediately and I was able to eat a peach and some yogurt! 

    I'm planning on asking her to get a cookie from her BF for me to try and will let you know. However, since sugar is a no no, eating cookies wouldn't be good for my cancer. 

  • orchidgal
    orchidgal Member Posts: 153
    edited March 2011

    WAnted to share this article I found re MMJ:

    THC Gives Cancer Cells the Munchies Too

    Category: basic sciencebiologycancerdrugsmarijuanamedicine
    Posted on: April 2, 2009 6:12 AM, by Nick Anthis

    ResearchBlogging.orgThrough the results of widespread experimentation of the... well... let's say "non-scientific" variety, it's pretty well known that marijuana has the side effect of making the user very hungry. This is one of the many physiological effects of the active ingredient THC (Δ9-tetrahydrocannabinol). More relevantly, however, THC and other cannabinoids are actively being investigated for various useful clinical purposes, including the treatment of cancer through the inhibition of tumor growth.

    A new study by Salazar et al. in The Journal of Clinical Investigation demonstrates that THC causes tumor cells to begin to degrade themselves from the inside (a process called autophagy, i.e. "self-eating"). Although autophagy has been shown to promote cell survival in some cases and cell death in others, the authors show that in this case it causes cancer cells to undergo programmed cell death (apoptosis). Thus, THC activates a series of events within cancer cells, inhibiting tumor growth.

    Despite the imagery that the title of this post (and maybe even casual experience) may imply, it's not that THC causes cancer cells to ravenously and indiscriminately destroy themselves. Rather, by binding to certain cell-surface receptors, THC activates a cell signaling pathway that leads to cell death. This is a very orderly process, with autophagy just contributing one important step. The authors of this paper work out many of the molecular players in this process, using siRNA and cells derived from knockout mice, although I'll leave it to the interested reader to further explore that aspect by reading the paper if so inclined.

    Mostly, this is interesting (to me) more for the big picture aspect and the implications for clinical medicine. And, of course, for the post title it inspired.

    I was offered a rec letter for MMJ by an oncology group, and accepted it a year ago after dx. I've used it with cussess,a dn since I don't smoke, use tincuttres and edibles. I steer away from sugar, so found some great "goo" that is very clean and helps relax, sleep, enjoy life. All the best!

  • FireKracker
    FireKracker Member Posts: 8,046
    edited March 2011
    Hello=I only read 1 article abou MMJ.I am a perfect candidate for it but the drs.wont give it to me.I have acid reflux all my life.im 70 with breast cancer.if i bend down within 2 hrs after I eat im sick.sometime i get sick from foods that never bother me.I always have pains in my stomach.besides the acid reflux I have ,a rare colitius that I was on a oral chemo for 5 yrs.(about 10 yrs ago.long story short.Dr.refused.all my drs are afraid.they all told me ask the other one.they know i should be on medical MMJ but wont do it.5 yrs ago i sent my gastro dr.an article of this sort.he laughed.so whats the alternative.GUESS??///
  • rubytuesday
    rubytuesday Member Posts: 2,248
    edited March 2011
    I've TOTALLY enjoyed reading this thread.Cool  I have ongoing nausea from Femara and am wondering if it would help with that?????  I'm printing out the article to take to my oncologist.  Thanks for the info!
  • NattyOnFrostyLake
    NattyOnFrostyLake Member Posts: 377
    edited March 2011

    Granny, what state are you in? There is usually an organized medical cannibis group that will advocate for you in each state, tell you how to proceed. They have a lot of nurses in this movement.

  • Ladyredlocks
    Ladyredlocks Member Posts: 56
    edited March 2011
    Granny, I second Matty ... what state do you live in? 

    I have been using cannabis for 18 months now to manage all the after effects of my bilateral and reconstruction.  Can I just say cannabis salve is the BEST thing for the achy soreness in my armpits, ribs, and foobs at the end of 12 hours of chasing a three year old grandduaghter. 

    I am an active member in my local medical cannabis community (medical marijuana is legal in my state, Oregon, as it is in 14 states now.  I help my patients learn to make their own butters, salves, tinctures, etc out of Cannabis to manage the after effects of cancer, ms, chrons, etc.   I will try to help you in any way I can.  You can also look up these organizations in your state as a place to start:  NORML.org (National Organization to Reform Marijuana Laws), THCF.com (The Hemp and Cannabis Foundation), and ASA.com (Americans for Safe Access). 

  • FireKracker
    FireKracker Member Posts: 8,046
    edited March 2011
    I live in New Jersey and it is not legal.Any info anyone has im interested in.I have drs.here that are very progressive but will not give me the prescription.
  • mepic
    mepic Member Posts: 84
    edited March 2013

    Well this I do know something about.  Marijuana was criminalized based largley on faulty scientific studies (like failing to mention the joints were dipped in acid!)  It was also not in the interests of many wealthy Americans (like Hearst Corporation who owned paper company) for hemp to stay legal because hemp was a better, stronger, cheaper plant to grow.  This is why older Americans have such a negative view of marijuana - look up "Reefer Madness" on Youtube.  It is quite hilarious what Americans were led to believe about stoners.  Marijuana affects people differently.  While some may conk out in front of the t.v. for hours others will clean the whole house without resting.  If it was true that Marijuana was a gateway drug the State of California would be over-run with drug addicts.  Sure we do have a drug problem like all other states but it is just not true that all pot smokers will go on to do harder drugs.  Sure many drug addicts started with pot but did all shoplifters go on to have felonies?  No, though most people with felonies shoplifted before they went on to heavier crimes.  My point is marijuana does legitimately help some medical conditions and if they are learning that it may stop cancer from spreading then we should support the much needed science.  If medicinal marijuana is on the table and it works as good as or better than laboratory-prepared drugs I sure as heck know which one I'm choosing. I know the drug companies wouldn't be too thrilled because marijuana is relatively cheap to grow and they have spent millions in researching their drugs.   Thankfully I live in a state which allows medicinal marijuana, though I have not pursued that route.  But I feel strongly about it being available to any patient around the country who needs it without being made to feel a criminal.  My generation was raised by the generation that thought pot made you a lunatic murderer.  I know, from personal experience and from working in criminal law for over 20 years, that (in moderation) marijuana is less harmful than alcohol.      So if you need it and it helps you thank God for the herbal remedy.  Hopefully in the next 20 years it will not have the stigma it does now.

  • buckshye
    buckshye Member Posts: 3
    edited September 2014

    Has anyone here who's been using the THC have  any cancer reoccurrence ?

  • exbrnxgrl
    exbrnxgrl Member Posts: 12,424
    edited September 2014

    buckshye,

    this is a pretty old thread and hasn't been active in a year (and two years before that). There are at least one or two active threads on the topic. Here's one:

    https://community.breastcancer.org/forum/121/topic...

  • abigail48
    abigail48 Member Posts: 1,699
    edited September 2014

    I smoked pot for 45 years.  some of those years cigaretts as well, sometimes a lot of both.  quit tobacco when I was 30: ( 1967) quit pot in 1998.  13 years later the cyst I'd had then for 47 years turned bad.  with the help of fennel juice.  

  • FireKracker
    FireKracker Member Posts: 8,046
    edited September 2014

    wow this is a old thread

    I don't even live in NJ. Anymore 

    I'm smokin it a long time...it helps all my stomach issues..

    And no it's not legal in PA either

  • zha-an
    zha-an Member Posts: 31
    edited October 2014

    firecracker

    luv your go get em attitude! I,too, will not be wearing pink! Recently diagnosed w IDC I am very interested in MMJ. I have underlying chronic issues that cause pain 24/7 so if I could relieve pain AND reduce recurrence/met risk in a natural way then sign me up! Fortunately NV has legal MMJ but they r just now getting dispensaries in northern NV where I live. I will be actively pursuing this after reading updated research. Thanks for your willingness to share your experience, especially since your state is unenlightened! May I ask your method of ingestion? I hv asthma so toking is out and $500 for vaporizer out financially but it do have my nebulizer so if I could get a canabinoid extract I could probably use that. Any advice appreciated...message me if you don't feel comfortable giving details on public forum. 

    let's kick some cancer butt! 

    zha-an

  • FireKracker
    FireKracker Member Posts: 8,046
    edited October 2014
  • zha-an
    zha-an Member Posts: 31
    edited October 2014

    thanks! That certainly is an option especially if you are able to find a variety with high CBD content to maximize benefit. I found a good informational site www.cannabiscure.info hosted by a UK non profit group. As a trained herbalist, I found their information to be quite accurate. There is also an excellent section on oil scammers that tells you what to know/ask before ordering product. They do not sell products. Their organization does make limited product available at no chg to qualified individuals although demands exceed supply so probably not a realistic way to get it. I found their info on how the oil is made informative and frightening! Let me be clear, I'm not advocating that anyone break the law but if you are going to purchase or consider making your own tinctures then this is good information. Hopefully one day soon the politics of cannabis will get out of the way of legitimate research and use by people it could help.

  • ganzgirl2010
    ganzgirl2010 Member Posts: 235
    edited November 2014

    I have been a daily pot smoker for about 5 years. I was dx'd in 2013 with lcis and then ilc this past summer, so I don't know about pot stopping the growth of tumors or preventing mets but I DO KNOW it definetly helps with nasuau. I didn't have to have chemo, thankfully, but I am always nauseous and it does help with headaches and some chronic pain. So I am a HUGE advocate of pot..toking as I type :D Massachusetts legalized it for medical purposes about 2 years ago but we are JUST get dispensaries and it costs about $200 for an appointment to get a license for it and then you would still have to buy the pot because insurance would never pay for it. It's probably cheaper than buying it the way I do now tho.

    Although...I would love to stop smoking and maybe try vapor, but $500 is definetly not in my budget :(

  • FireKracker
    FireKracker Member Posts: 8,046
    edited November 2014

    been smokin it for years

    The cheep stuff

    It helps me with all that is ailing me

    I live in PA.where it's not legal

    But

    I have my ways

    Damnit it works

  • Lily55
    Lily55 Member Posts: 3,534
    edited December 2015

    I understand there is a specific strain of cannabis to make oil from that has proven cáncer destroying properties, anyone know what it is?

  • LvinAZ44
    LvinAZ44 Member Posts: 213
    edited January 2016

    I live in Arizona which is a med marijuana state. I am in process if filing my app as my dr said go for it. I've smoked pot for many years, not so much the past 5 because of my job. I have smoked since my latest dx, it helps with nausea and body aches. I have read that is the cannabis oil that helps rid body of tumors saw a few interviews and read some articles. True? I'm assuming to try as I feel like put us much safety than anything else. Is there a Morales debate? Yes but I'm not trying to be s part of that, everyone had their own opinion. I am willing to try, what can it hurt?

  • Momine
    Momine Member Posts: 7,859
    edited January 2016

    Lvin, I read a lot about MJ at one point and also listened to a long interview with Rick Simpson about his personal experience, the experience that led him to believe in the oil as a cancer cure. I had to conclude that he didn't know what he was talking about and that nothing in his story could be construed as evidence that the oil works the way he claims it does.

    HOWEVER, there is some tantalizing sporadic evidence that there may well be some cancer-fighting properties in cannabis, so since it definitely does help with aches and nausea, as well as provides a xanax-like effect without the downside of xanax, I would go for it if I were in your shoes.

  • ChiSandy
    ChiSandy Member Posts: 12,133
    edited January 2016

    IL is a med-mar. state, but I hesitate to ask any of my docs to sign an app. for me. I have easily-triggered asthma (in fact, I think it was a coughing spell New Year’s Eve 1981 after smoking pot that triggered my first asthma attack--for which I didn’t have an inhaler because I hadn’t been diagnosed yet). And unfortunately, the two Chicago-area dispensaries (Andersonville & Evanston) only sell the smokables (though Andersonville is working on getting the vape concentrate). Besides, I’m not on chemo, and haven’t had nausea or the kind of pain from AIs that would require anything stronger than topical analgesia (and I’ve found Bio-Freez or arnica gel seems to work as well for me as Voltaren gel). I used to smoke pot recreationally at parties when in law school (yeah, the irony is not lost on me) but it never made me feel anything but alternately brilliant and stupid and finally, not stupid. Got pretty tired of that cycle with each toke. Actually that first asthma attack was a welcome excuse to pass it up and pass it along, without seeming moralistic or uncool (pretty hard to make fun of someone wheezing like a concertina).

  • Bliss58
    Bliss58 Member Posts: 1,154
    edited January 2016
  • MarciaM
    MarciaM Member Posts: 118
    edited January 2016

    Hi Heart and soul;

    CBD Oil is what you want to get!

    Good for you for bringing this up. I also got the rx fr m y chemo 4 years ago ad threw it out essentially giving away a thing that might have prevented a brain metastasis. Geez. Being to o afarid of the high it might being on. Now 4 year out from the brain met and lame hand and speech difficulty, I recently got an ok from a Dr. in Il to have a liscense so I bought CBD oil. It does not get you high or relive anxiety, but I am taking it daily in small drops. I have to say that I developed new lumps in my left breast but they came back normal this last week, just radiation damage. i bought it from Realm of caring if you want to look them up if your in a state that has ok-ed Medical Marijuana.

    Research from an article posted in the famous cancer magazine called CURE describes how it blocks certain pathways to BC.

    Wow! Why its it even allowed to be studies at all the cancer centers- Big Pharma blocks them. All BC should be given them in a study at least! It reduced my glaucoma brought on by chemo.

    Contact me if you want to talk .

    best to you,

    Marcia M


  • LvinAZ44
    LvinAZ44 Member Posts: 213
    edited February 2016

    living in AZ I got my dr to write a script and applied

    d for a med card today. I have read about the cbd oil and that is what I will try. Crossing fingers it helps. Smoking it definitely helps my body feel better and my nausea is eliminated. It can't be worse for you right? So I'm giving it a try. I am going to let my dr know when i get the oil and at my next scan in April see if there is a marked difference. Fingers crossed!!

  • ClarkBlue
    ClarkBlue Member Posts: 170
    edited April 2016

    Here is an article posted on cancer.gov re: lab studies on rats and CBD (cannibanoids no THC) killing cancer cells. Worth the look.

    http://www.cancer.gov/about-cancer/treatment/cam/p...

  • LvinAZ44
    LvinAZ44 Member Posts: 213
    edited April 2016

    i am confused. Do we want THC and canninoids or just cannabinoids. I read different things.

  • ClarkBlue
    ClarkBlue Member Posts: 170
    edited April 2016

    Mostly cannibanoids, but the THC will work for nausea and pain, and get you high

  • LuvMyFam
    LuvMyFam Member Posts: 101
    edited April 2016

    I've been reading articles about MJ, and I found this one interesting and it makes sense to me. If you are going to get it, make sure you get a strain or a ratio that works for your particular type of cancer.

    http://www.cannabiscure.info/files/breast_cancer.h...

    Interesting

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