August 2010 Rads
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Today was #31 of 33 (boost #6). The techs, MA and doc are all commenting on how well my skin is doing, and I am giving all the credit to Miaderm cream. I have been using it 2-3 times a day. Someone on this site (I think in the July rad starts) recommended it, and I am SO glad I found that recommendation - THANK YOU!!! It was well worth the $55 for two tubes - kept one in my purse to put on right after treatment and the other in my bathroom at home. They are almost gone but I think I have enough to see me through. I go braless as much as possible, and when I need to wear something for support (very necessary in public and when doing daily walks) I wear a front-fastening cotton jogbra that is a size larger than my usual. Hopefully by sharing this information it will help someone else.
My boost area is very red but the skin remains intact and I have no blistering or peeling. Under my arm, around the node biopsy scar, the crease under my breast, and the center of my chest are all outside the boost area and are itching and kind of rashy now, but I imagine that is part of the healing process. Am continuing to use Miaderm plus a little Kenalog/triamcinolone cream (prescribed by doctor). I feel very lucky and am thankful to have made it this far without terrible side effects. It hasn't been a cakewalk, and I have been uncomfortable, but it has all been very tolerable ... I'm SO sorry for those of you having a rough time!!
I am VERY tired these days and EXTREMELY emotional (crabby, sad, anxious, depressed and couldn't figure out why). When I met with my rad onc yesterday, she started to briefly mention the emotional side of finishing up BC treatment and I started bawling (sure caught me by surprise). She ended up spending about 30 minutes with me (apts are usually 5-10 minutes) and said I am "very normal." A lot of what she shared really hit home with me and I hope you don't mind me sharing a few things here. One was that I have been carrying around the "baggage" of BC, lugging the suitcases full of all the emotions with me through all the phases of diagnosis and treatment, but I haven't really opened them (maybe just a peek now and then) to explore, unpack, or process ... mostly because I've had my hands full enough already just getting through each day and appointment, etc. She also said that I need to embrace the grief, anger, sadness, etc., and that it is good to just cry (for days if necessary) until I am ready to move through it and figure out "what now." Being a breast cancer patient has pretty much defined me for the last 7 months and it is weird to think of getting back to a "normal" life. Sometimes women use this experience to reevaluate their lives and set goals, make bucket lists, change careers, develop new hobbies, etc. She said a lot of women who haven't been part of a support group through treatment find that now is a good time to join one and they develop life-long friendships with women who share a similar experience. She also suggested that my husband and I make a date to talk about our future and hopes for our life together, each bringing our own bucket list of 15-20 things, see where our lists differ and are similar, and come up with one together. I feel like she gave me permission to be this emotional wreck for now but also helped me see a good and bright future ... oh, the possibilities!!! Once again, hopefully my sharing will help someone else.
Hang in there, pink ladies. We ARE getting through this!!!
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janabananna - I for one do thank you for sharing your conversation with your Dr. I too have been on an emotional roller-coaster and had a talk with my onc. It's nice to be told these things are normal.
Bubbalu - so sorry to see your post about the possibility of having to stop rads - hoping that is not the case and you heal up soon. I like the thot - wer'e on the home stretch. Wow, finally!
againmine - just a thot - but maybe if you talked to your family doctor instead of the onc you'd get better help with the sleep issue. It's my general physician that prescribes my sleep meds. My onc seems to want to stick to one thing - the cancer. If I don't sleep I'm really exhausted the next day - I feel your pain.
Blessings, Carolyn
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Hi Ladies! It's been awhile since I've posted anything. I had #21 of 33 today. The Dr & RN looked at my skin today just as a weekly routine thing. They are both happy with how it looks. I'm just a little pink and I have the itchy bumps in the center of my chest. I'm using the Miaderm & Aquaphor + some hydrocordisone for the itches. I'm a little weepy this week. I was taking a shower yesterday & looked down at my pink boob and started crying. I was thinking, "I can't believe I have to go thru this." I know all the positive stuff--early stage, don't attend your own pity party, diagnosis is great, blah, blah blah. Most days I feel really positive, but some days I just want to cry & scream into a pillow! It takes awhile for the shock to wear off, I think. Everything happens so fast after diagnosis that I feel like my emotions have to get caught up. I'm taking extra time for myself. Tomorrow I have the day off and am going to spend it with a girlfriend getting manicures & having lunch. I find that I'm much more balanced if I keep busy, but also allow myself down time to read or watch a funny movie. I'm finding I don't want to watch anything depressing or any medical dramas on tv.
Janabannana--love, love, love the couple's bucket lists!!!!!
Strong, amazing Pink Ladies in the House
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Good evening, amazing ladies! I am in the "basket case of the year" category with all of you. Up until this point I have been pretty even keel, even though I have had some very rough times. (Parents death early in my life, my mom when I was 16, rough divorce, struggling single mom for years, moving out of the country and having to be away from my children) But nothing has truly brought me to tears as much as this disease. I do blame most of it on my hormones being a total mess! Especially now that i am taking Tamoxifen. Againmine, I was wondering if part of the "weepiness" you are experiencing is the same thing. I don't want to minimize it at all, but as I read your post, I thought maybe that was part of it. I will pray for you and your husband, that you come together as a true partners. I think that is what God intends. You need his help now! Also, Janabannana, I too love the couples "bucket list" idea. My hubby is out with his boss tonight but I am going to talk to him about it very soon!
Had my boost simulation today. My onc says 4 more full breast treatments then I will start the boost. Only painful spot is near my incision under my arm... owwwwww....
((Big Hugs)) to all!
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Againmine, I'm sorry you're not getting much support from your hubby. He might be scared, who knows-?! Some onc's offices have free familly counselors available, you might want to find out. Look at everything that's thrown at us, who wouldn't have some issues?! I have a ton of trouble sleeping and honestly my onc doesn't like to give me meds either, she suggested Tylenol PM. I continued to complain though (a lot of my problem is due to the hot flashes) and she increased my gabapentin to 300mg/night. I'm sleeping much better now. No more hot flashes or night sweats. I was pre-menopausal but the ovaries have completely shut down since chemo. I bet arubajan has a point too- Tamox is surely messing with you. Be gentle with yourself. Come here and vent with your sisters. We've all been there, it's okay! (((Hugs)))
Ladies, I'm sooo tired tonight so I don't have the energy to go back and respond to everyone like I'd planned to. I just found out my cousin has had a recurrence. She's triple negative and made it almost three years, but now she's officially stage IV. She has a PET scan on Monday to find out how extensive it is. Right now all she knows is that the biopsy confirmed the cancer is back (bone pain and swelling in her arm) and it's the same triple negative cancer she battled before, at stage I. She had a lumpectomy, AC+T chemo, and rads.
Love and prayers for us all tonight.
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Julie - I've been thinking and feeling the same thing as you, which you said well -- "Everything happens so fast after diagnosis that I feel like my emotions have to get caught up." Comments like these make me thankful for this group, because I know I'm not alone; yet it wouldn't hurt me to go to the local support group that meets once a month. But -- then my mother in law goes to that one. She's a strong & wonderful woman, but I think she sees anything negative as complaining. Obviously, I don't. Anyway you guys suite me very well. So, thanks ladies.
Lady M - Sorry to hear about your cousin's reoccurrence. I will be praying for wisdom for her Dr's and peace of heart for her this weekend and esp as she has the pet scan on Monday.
I guess that's the next stage we face -- having finished the tx phase it'll be concerns over reoccurrence. And the battle rages on ....
On a positive note though, we get to glimpse something others may not (the what if) and it makes us think more in a realistic way. Gives us an opportunity to make some changes, or add something new to our lives. I have decided to buy a journal specifically for my boys and write to them. I'm not sure what I'll write just yet, and if I never give it to them so what. I think it'll help me. I love them dearly but find I want to shield them from my disease, I'm not sure that's good. Anyway, thanks for letting me ramble on.
Hope everyone has a great day! Carolyn
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Lady's I am starting to think to that this Tamoxifin is part to blame. As I type I am having a hard time tear wise. My mind is on my brother (he had his last chemo for his esophageal cancer this week! Yeah!) and waiting to find out when his surgery is, he lives in South Carolina and I want to be there with him. I want to be done with rads so I can and missing two days to rest skin and body...thats on my mind.
Unsure, worried etc... too what the doc may or may not find out Monday when I go to get the ultra sound done. Even dreamed about it last night. My side was hurting most of the day and cramping all week has increased.
Yep basket case!
Thank you all for listening and being there!!! Love yah all!!
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Good morning everyone!! I haven't posted in a long time but I try to keep up as much as possible. All of you ladies are a true inspiration! I so very much enjoy reading your posts and I learn from every one of you. In 30 min I leave for 23/26 plus I have 7 boosts. So far so good. My reaction sounds exactly like Julieee's. I think the little itchy bumps in the center of my chest can be attributed to past sun damage and the fact that I had NO IDEA the radiation would be that far away from my breast.
Lady M - I'm just sending you giant hugs. You seem to be a very strong and intelligent woman. I don't know how you ladies balance this and a family life. I am single and have no kids. While I miss the 'support' I think it does make it easier sometimes. Also saying prayers for your cousin!
Bonnie - thanks for sharing your story. God bless you and your husband. You are in the home stretch! YAY!!!
againmine - so sorry about your reactions. I am praying that everything works out for you and you are able to be with your brother.
babbalu - I'm also sorry to hear what a tough time your skin is having with this and hope that you can continue on.
Janabananna - thanks for sharing your doctor's advice. A lot of the time I feel like I'm in denial about this whole thing. Even though I've had to go through lots of treatments so far (lump, re-excision, chemo, herceptin, rads, about to start tamox) I've done pretty well and have continued to work throughout. I'm hoping at some point this all sinks in and I get a kick in the pants that my life needs to change. I sometimes wonder if when rads are over I'm just going to break down.
Have a wonderful weekend!!
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Janabannanna:Thank you for your post, I feel as if I wrote it myself. I made my husband read it because its' all the things I am feeling but could not explain to him. I feel like my head has not stopped spinning since being diagnosed in June. Today was #19 of 33 and I am tired and have been very emotional for the last few days (oh and crabby too). I was so looking forward to sleeping late tomorrow but instead I have to have a stress test because I was having chest pain. I think I've already had my "the stress test".
I am so happy I found this site, I've learned so much, I've learned I am not alone, I know I always have someone that will talk to me and WANTS to listen to me. I thank all you wonderful strong women.
Good night and God Bless.
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Monday is a new start for me with rads. Please pray that all goes well so that I can tolerate the treatments and get them DONE! No more bad burns outside the rad field and no more sensitivity to radiation.
Now here's some research I can live with. Stumbled on this online. I read 2 articles online that said that a glass of red wine everyday during radiation would lessen the toxicity of the skin. I'm willing to try that one. Google 'drinking red wine during radiation'. One is on reuter.com the other on digitaljournal.com
Happy weekend to all..........................
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Hi, everyone - I haven't posted in forever - only have seven more treatments left, with five being boosts. It's all very strange - having been so cancer focused these last ten months and now things may be returning to somewhat normal (still dealing with the question of whether to restart Herceptin or not - totally different subject than rads). Definitely dealing with the feeling of every pain or twinge I have could be the cancer coming back. So scary - I think I'll ask my oncologist for a recommendation of a therapist - group stuff might be good, but I know my need to act normal will probably prevent me from opening up in such a group. I like the wine idea - maybe that's the problem - I stopped drinking through all this figuring my liver (and the rest of my body) were already taxed enough and that drinking might not be good, but maybe I need to rethink that! Hope you all have a lovely weekend - weather is great here and that's what I'm going to focus on today! Take care - Mo
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Hi everyone! Well yesterday I finished number 21 or 33 so I only have a dozen to go - saying it like that makes it seem like the end is in sight. Pretty rosy now especially around incision scars. A little itchy and tender. Still doing the aquafor. I have some tenderness in that breast if I bump it or roll over on it. It was funny that when I saw rad onc this week they asked about any new symptoms and I told them about the tenderness and of course she said oh thats from the surgery not the radiation. Lol I think they only ask about symptoms so they can blame it on something else. I haven't had that tenderness before and my surgery was July 19th. I see and hear my thoughts in all of your posts. Funny I feel I know you all so well even though we haven't met. I feel you all understand what I'm going through too despite the fact that most days I don't understand it myself. Laying on the table the other day I thought about how alone I was there and about all the others who said the same thing. I think its because that's the one time you are forced to lay there perfectly still and face the facts of having cancer and wonder what is going on in your breast - are you winning the fight. Is the damage worth the goal you hope to reach. I think about all you guys thinking the same thing and saying the same prayers. It helps. I still feel guitly sometimes that I complain and some of you have had it so much worse than i have. I didn't have to have chemo or anything. People tell me all the time how lucky I am - I'm a poster child for getting a mamogram since they caught it so early and things are going so well. The thing is I do feel blessed to be doing well and not to have needed chemo but at the same time I feel so vulnerable. Wondering will it be back - is it starting in the other breast - all these questions I don't voice to people around me when they tell me how lucky I am and how it will all soon be over. When you are laying on that table or at night when you can't sleep those thoughts do pop up. At least I have a two day weekend off from treatments and work. Going to take it easy and try to just enjoy being at home. Hope you all have a great weekend.
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cpjuly10 - you voiced so many of my thoughts so well.
I've done 24 of 35. SE so far pretty typical, reddening of skin and changes in texture, stiffening of breast density. I do have a break in the skin under my breast, in the fold. The worst is the exhaustion. It is almost constant. The days when I do start out feeling half way normal it dosen't take long to just "hit the wall".
I've always been one to put the best face on things and try to conceal the bad...to bottle things up. Coming to BCO, reading here and in the other threads I've been following what my sisters have been experiencing, empathizing with them and praying for us all is the only thing that keeps my fears and emotions from overcoming me. I know I'm lucky to have early detection, no chemo and as good a prognosis as one can get with this beast, but that has no effect on the fears. Fortunately, no one has told me how lucky I am. I'm afraid that could break that bottle and the emotions and fears would flood out.
Need to dress and go prepare the sourdough starter for the pancakes, waffles and biscuits for tomorrow's breakfast at our senior center. Have a restful weekend all.
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2 more boosts
Keep hearing how lucky I am until I could scream. They have no idea.
Red but no broken skin. Very tired on "rad" days but this w/e has been great - slept in - university football game, tidied the garden and ate out!!!
Super weepy. My spouse is also undergoing cancer treatment and there are days when I feel like there is no point. I get sooooooo depressed. then there is always someone to say - but you are so lucky - they found it!!! Grrrr. They found a shadow on my pancreas so now I'm being checked for that! I'm so lucky!
My onc is not sympathetic or patient. No broken skin - good - see you next week. Questions??? Make an appt - should have availabilty in 1-2 months. Bye.
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cpjuly10, you said it so well. We're lucky to have each other, no one else can really understand. Thank you for being here, it makes this a little less awful. I just want us all to get through this and put breast cancer behind us forever!
sharonraew, you must be so scared. Please let us know what you find out.
Lots of love to all my sisters!
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Hi everyone! Having a nice weekend. Went to workout both days but so tired I didn't do a lot. My husband and brother went with me or I probably wouldn't have had the will to go lol! I came home yesterday and took a nap. Just couldn't stay awake - laid down to read and just went right to sleep.Today hasn't been quite as bad but I still haven't done much.
Chabba - hope your breakfast went well - sounds yummy! Hope the weekend off helps your skin heal.
sharonraew - I'll be praying you have a good outcome on your pancreas. Can't imagine how hard it would be with you both undergoing cancer treatment. Keep us posted.
Lady madonna - Glad you are here too. We will all get through this together. It is so good to be able to be open with someone who understands.
Lots of positive thoughts and prayers going out to you all.
Carole
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Good morning, Ladies. I started on Effexor Xr on Thursday (5 days ago) and have been sick from it so did not feel like getting on the computer. Much better today (so far). I'm down to 2 boosts left and know that I am very lucky that my skin is doing good compared to others.
bubbalu, I've been drinking red wine (1/2 to 1 glass a day) (plus I must admit scotch) every night (except since starting Effexor) during radiation so maybe that's why my skin came out not so bad!
sharonraew, I'm so sorry about what you are going through and now the pancreas shadow as well. As my previous posts have indicated, my husband has battled 2 primary cancers (kidney and pancreas) and resulting pain issues. It is so difficult. I wish no one else ever had to go through their own personal cancer and treatment let alone their spouse/partner at the same time. I'm praying for you.
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Hi everyone,
I was just looking through this thread to see what I'm coming up for - I am still doing chemo, but was wondering what rads will be like.Thanks for all the info.
For Janabananna and others wondering how to move on after tx finishes, someone gave me a link to a very helpful article that you may like, called After the Treatment Finishes, Then What? I hope it helps you too.
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Thanks Latte, I just skimmed through the article before printing it but it looks great!
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Latte, thanks so much for the article - I can't tell you how much of it is so perfectly spot on for how I'm feeling right now. I am printing it right now and am going to have my husband read it, as well. Thanks! Mo
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Hey Ladies - Today marked the half way mark and so far everything is still going well. Sight pinkness but not bad. I know this week will be a bit more telling though. Think about my sisters on the table and have taken up the practice of praying too! I think it was Carole who suggested this - good idea.
bonniewe - I'm taking Effexor (not the xr) and it's taken me a month to feel like I've gotten 'my footing' so to speak. Didn't feel sick but I was irritable and I hated that, so did my PH (poor husband).
sharonraew - I wonder if you've received any news yet on your pancreas? Sure hope and pray it's nothing.
bubbalu - yes, I'm praying for you too, that you can tolerate the tx's and finish all of them. How did it go today? Like the wine idea, gonna have to try drinking it again. I've had trouble with my taste buds since chemo, wine just doesn't taste the same as before.
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Finished with my rads today!! Woo Hoo. I did it. I'd highly recommend the Canadian protocol to anybody faced with rads. Skin side effects were pretty minimal and when it got a little too uncomfortable, I just went topless. A blood test in the morning and then let the Tamoxifen begin. God bless all my BC sisters wherever you are on your journey. I'm lifting you all up in prayer tonight.
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hello, ladies!
phxsunshine, congrats on the end of rads!
Today is my last radiation treatment and it will be nice to have that time back. I have to ask something, has anyone else noticed an odd odor from the radiation/surgical armpit? I had my husband give it the sniff test so he could "smell" what I mean. It is not body odor, it is a metalic/burning smell, very odd and disconcerting. I hope it is not a forever thing, ugh.
hugs to all,
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Hello everyone...
Was leaving a message on here yesterday, then forgot to send when i went to another page! Was so frustrated with myself that i just closed all out for the day. Oh the brain doth fog!
Haven't had rads since last Wednesday when my skin and emotions were such a wreck. Went in on Monday and the machine was down... waiting to find out if I go in today. Still very red-brown looking, a bit of blister type rash between my two 'girls' and it itches and burns all at the same time! pealing under my arm and on and around my nipple. I sure looked over baked! fatigued and weepy.
bonniewe- I was wondering also about a off oder..thought it may be the skin and the Aquaphur combo. But washing doesn't seem to completely take it away. Agree, not B arm pit smell. And congrats on being your last day!
phxsunshine- Congrats on you finishing too! Looking forward to that day myself!
Had my ultra sound Monday..never had the one they did before (injected fluid into my uterus) and the Gyn wants to have me have a D and C to remove the polyps, fibroids, and have a look see with the laporscope too. My lining has thickened in the last 3 months (Tamoxifin ? Doc thinks),,, he would like me to have it done as soon as my rads are done. Told the rad tech and she said to talk to him about just have the thing taken out...less worry. And I had have fibroids removed last year so I have to agree. I am 53 and Do NOT plan on using it anymore...plus I have been in menopause for several years. So if Tamox causes uterine cancer..why give it a foot hold.
My brother is having his esophagus removed soon and I want to be with him (he is in S.C.) and (he just finished his chemo and rads! ) so I hope to be all done with mine in time. Its about 700 plus miles from here so I hope I can drive done ok.
Well off to see if i go to get my treatment today....wish me luck girls so I can get this done! Only 7 to 10 to go!
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Hi everyone!! Today was number 23 of 33 so only 10 to go!! I'll be glad to have my life back though what that means I'm not sure. I'll be starting tamoxifen which is sure to bring it's side effects into play. Anyone that has finished and is still following this board - when does the fatigue start to go away and the skin get back to normal? I'm so looking forward to using my own deodorant and body wash. I want to smell like me again. Bonniewe - I'm glad you brought that smell up because I have noticed it too as well as - I'm on one of those topics no one else may want to talk about but my urine smells different too - kind of that same smell in fact. Yuck!!! I might ask about it at doctor day tomorrow - it will give them the opportunity to say - "That isn't caused by the radiation treatment."
Got to have something to smile about. Yesterday I was so antsy on the table I could barely lie still and today I am so cranky as well as being tired. Hope you got to do your treatment againmine - I was wondering about you this morning when I was running down the list praying for people - hadn't seen you on here for a few days but sometimes I'm so tired I just check out the posts and go to bed after work. I'm off today so believe I'm going to take a nap and then check out the article on life after treatment. Have a good day!
Carole
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Carole, I did get to go in and be marked up like a patchwork quilt! LOL They have me marked with a blue ink line and lots of tape stickers! And of corse...these are to stay for boosts... which begin Wednesday! I like the question you are going to ask your doctor...I am sure it will be "not part of the radiation treatment" but, as we all know, who are going through....well it is! Thank you for the prayers...I don't know how others get through their treatment with out them!
That's a good question... when does the skin come back to some kind of 'normal'? The fatigue go away?
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Downloaded article "After the Treatment Finishes. It is dead on! Huge emotional swings about going back to work - especially since they have introduced new software that I will have to learn as well as dealing with a 30% staff turnover under a new general manager. Seems he doesn't ask questions - just fires people. I don;'t feel I have the strength to handle big pressure right now.
Big week of crying last week but this week it's like "whatever". Don't feel like I have the energy to even be emotional.
Last boost today. Manageable burn but quite a bit of irritation under my arm where the scar for the nodes is. Never bought the prescription cream. Will try a bit of Polysporin under my arm. So very glad to put rads behind me. Can only go up from here - right?
Take care everyone
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Hi everyone,
I'm done with full rads and 3/8 of boosts. Everything is catching up with me...I'm physically and emotionally exhausted. My skin looks fine, but I feel like I'm slipping away emotionally. Very depressed. I just want to be done... and I'm so discouraged that I still have to finish the year with Herceptin and then I've got to deal with Tamoxifen for who knows how long...
I feel so bad for being like this, I don't know what the problem is. Even when I was diagnosed I was strong. I'm not weepy, what's happened to my life?!
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Tomorrow is my last whole breast treatment and then on to boosts (5, I think). I am almost black under my arm and the skin is starting to break open. Very painful, so I am thankful to be done. I too have been SO tired. I work from home, but I have been napping 2 hours almost every day! My DH can't believe it. He refuses to believe it is from rads, but reading on here I am affirmed. Also, whichever one of you recommended the bras from Lane Bryant THANK YOU! It has helped me so much where my old underwire bras poked me under the arm!
LadyMadonna, are you on Tamoxifen? I have been weepy since the day I started that drug! Yikes. I am hoping that I level off emotionally soon, because it is not like me either!
((Hugs)) to all!
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Madona & Aruba - oh, I got plenty tired and it got worse as the time went on. I'd, sort of get to feeling better after the weekend, but then by Thursday, I was whupped. I felt like I had mono again. Just felt like I was made of lead and I take a 2 hr "nap" bam. Sometimes I felt better after I woke up, but not always, but it didn't matter, I had no choice, I had to sleep. Aruba, you tell you DH believe it, or I'll hunt him down like a dog and sock him one. Madonna, don't you feel bad, I've lost myself a few times this summer and didn't recognize myself. I'm the most happy, positive, tough cookie I know, and I got terrified a few times. The fear I am not used to. I'm an old military wife, a Spartan Woman!! and I felt like my legs had been knocked out from under me. I took Xanax for a couple of weeks waiting for the Oncotype test to come back, I was just a wreck. I know what your problem is, you have breast cancer and that is scary shit. You will find your way back, this too will pass. I'm with you girls!! Now, I hope I don't have too many SE from the tamoxifen, wish me luck as I continue on my Cancer Combat Mission. Love & hugs to all of us Rad Girls!
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