Chemo June 2010
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SKD - you got MAC makeup at the Look Good Feel Better seminar??? Wow -so lucky! I got a few cool things in my bag. I like the daily eye cream I got (Dove) and they gave me 2 of them! Congrats on not needing radiation and being done with treatments!
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before i go and buy DMom's recommended cookbook (the cancer-fighting kitchen) - does anyone else have cookbook recommendations for me?
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Kittycat, sorry for your scare! Have you tried anything like Ensure? I like the chocolate ones and (when going through separation & divorce) drank those when I had no appetite. I've got some on hand now but (thankfully) haven't really needed them.
Nobody told me not to eat lettuce. I've had several salads from restaurants and enjoyed them very much - whoops!
I think my taste buds are fried and I've been craving very flavorful things such as mexican foods, bbq, sour hard candies and a lot of juice.
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Hi - I have been eating fresh fruits and veggies all along but washing them really well. I also will eat lettuce but I clean it myself and won't eat any salads made in a restaurant - in fact I only eat cooked foods when I go out - nothing raw.
SKD - congrats on no rads. I have that to look forward to next spring/summer!
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Hello I hope it's ok to drop in here. I have not started my chemo but wanted to read about people who have gone through it. I am getting 4 treatments of CT. It is so great to see you all sticking together through this. I wish you all well.
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SKD A big WHOO HOO to you! That is wonderful!
Chey So glad to hear you are feeling better. The rest of my hair fell out so now I am really bald and my eyelashes and eyebrows continue to thin.
I had a week full of decsions. Went to the rads onc who is an hour drive away. She is OK with me having radiation locally. I checked in with some other people and they agree the local place should be fine. I think I will have 5 weeks of radiation. But, I haven't had my scan yet so we will see. Saw my regular onc who has released me until Nov 11. But, during our conversation she said "Remeber how sick you were on Adrymicin. You almost went to the hospital." Um.... I was never that sick. She had me confused with someone else! She re read my chart before she dimissed me. Now I have an inkling as to why I sometimes get weird info from her. Will probably shop for a new oncolgist once I get the energy. She also said I did not have to take steroids before this last 'round of chemo which is great but I don't trust her judgement. So I will call my GP for advice. Anyone not taking steroids at home before dose dense Taxol?
Dmom- gonna look up that cook book.
Kitty I am also on the no raw fruit of veg thing. Can't wait until two weeks are up. Then, salads here I come!
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SKD...Great news that you won't need rads! That must feel great, to know that you have been able to skip that long process.
Kitty...Glad your DH was there to catch you!
JFV...Happy that your drive to rads tx will be shorter. Mine, too. I'll be going 35 to 40 minutes each way vs. 75 to 90 minutes, so I'm elated to cut down on the drive time. I originally thought I was supposed to get 25 rads tx but looks like I'm in for 33. Lucky me.
About fruits and veggies...Early on I was instructed not to eat any raw fruit or veggies, not even some you can peel. Bananas were OK and apples, if peeled, not tomatoes. And nothing green and leafy. I cheated, bought a good salad spinner and washed iceberg or romaine at home (but only ate it occasionally), but nothing cut up and packaged or in restaurants, not even on a sandwich. My oncs instructions were that while you are so immunosuppressed you should avoid the foods that are the greatest risk...like ecoli from organic spinach that killed a number of people a few years ago and the packaged, salad greens that so often have to be recalled. (He also told me to say clear of ground beef since that is the biggest animal source of ecoli. And he said to limit the meals I ate in restaurants to places I really knew kept a clean kitchen). I'm glad no one who has been eating fresh stuff has become ill. I've missed big salads and I'm back on fresh fruit and veggies now that I'm post chemo and my WBC are running on the high side. I actually had a lobster roll yesterday with fresh celery in the lobster salad with a lettuce leaf under it. Felt human to order something without telling the waitress to leave off this and that. My dietary restrictions now are really just to help stave off the GERD...so nothing fried or spicy or citrus.I suppose that will help me to diet since I've gained weight, not lost it, during the chemo.
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wow .... crazy I've never been told such a thing. I might ask when I go to treatment on Wednesday but am not too concerned about it - I totally trust my onc and team of nurses (considering I've been friends with one of them for 30 yrs!) I'm doing so well, my oncologist said no blood tests necessary before my next two treatments (he'll check it every 3-4 wks.) and no Neulasta needed afterwards.
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gingersfavorite1...Stephanie...there is no uniform answer to any of this. We all are just following what out docs tell us. That's why I like this site...I learn new and different info every day from all of you. Sounds like you are doing great with chemo. Good for you. See, even that is individual. Some people just have an easier time of it than others.
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I am almost 5 weeks out from chemo treament and I do not see any new hair growth on my head yet, but have gotten a few new eyelashes but eyebrows have gotten thinner--WTH!!!! The hair on my arms and legs is really thin but about the same. I never lost all hair on head just so much that it may as well have all gone. What is there is getting longer since I shaved it super short and it looks even more ridiculous. My husband says if I put on an oversized green turtleneck and shave rest of hair off I could be Dana Carvey doing the turtle(ha-ha). I tried it this weekend and may have to do that for Halloween, I think it would be funny but trick-or-treaters might be confused. Starting rads next week so here we go again and hoping to go back to work week after that. I am a little worried about weeks 4-6 on rads and wearing something over rads area that won't hurt. Anyone have any ideas or opinions?? I have to wear hospital scrubs at work. LOL, Ginny
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JFV I do not take steroids at home, I get a dose in my IV at each Taxol
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latte-The Sonoma Diet Cookbook is my favorite. The Ecological Kitchen by Lorna Sass is brilliant, taught me how to use a pressure cooker again. I'm a big "one pot meal" kind of girl and I love healthy leftovers. Also, there is a nutritionist that advocates strengthening the immune system through foods, she has loads of great free recipes on her site www.karenhurd.com Like a lot of people, she thinks we should be eating tons of beans and legumes to fight cancer. The Sass book is vegetarian, I believe Vegan, but not boring at all. The Sonoma book is what totally changed our family's eating, pretty much the Meditteranean aproach, no white anything: rice, potatoe, flour or sugar. I have found that there is much common ground on healthy eating, whether it is anti inflammatory, anti cancer, low glycemic index etc.. Now with BC, I am trying to avoid anything with hormones, only organic chicken and dairy products. Also, there is evidence that sugar feeds cancer, so I avoid it. I think it is important not to get too rigid about any way of eating, or it is doomed to failure. Just try to tweek everything you already like. So instead of buying a milkshake, make a nutritious fruit smoothy, things like that. Both these books have been out for a while, might even be in the library. And like a lot of you, I don't eat out much and when I do, I only eat cooked foods, nothing raw. OMG, years ago when I was in nursing school, my Microbiology teacher made us culture a restaurant. You would not believe what grew in those petri dishes!
Carol2- Welcome! Best of luck with your tx. These girls are the best, best, best! Let us know if you need anything.
HOORAY to all you folks wrapping up some of your treatments! You DID it! Aren't you proud of yourselves? You should be!
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Dmom - thanks for the info - so if i was only going to get one book, would you recommend the sonoma book over the cancer-fighting kitchen book? could you also take a quick look for me please and tell me if one is much more "american-centric" than the other? (in terms of ingredients that are hard to find outside of US, and only-US measurements/temperatures etc.) thanks a lot!
i'm so happy that some of you are finishing up chemo already - today i reached the past-halfway point in my taxol -only 5/12 tx left to go. today i sat next to someone who is 4 weeks ahead of me, with similar tx and dx, and we had such fun talking. ieven forgot to take my ativan before the tx and didn't notice it! the time flew by.
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latte- I love the Sonoma Diet. We started to lose weight and get healthy, but it really has become a very easy way of life. After years, I can easily make up new recipes using the principles. I do think the measurements are USA based in all, so you may have to convert. Check out their website at http://www.sonomadiet.com/public/index.aspx I think you can subscribe there, I just used the book. Also, I like a lot of the recipes at Dr. Weil's site (the bearded doctor who finally got everyone thinking about complementary medicine) www.drweil.com He is free and follows a lot of the smart anti inflammatory principles. Happy to share my favorite recipes too!
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Hi All,
I hope you are doing well and that many of us have come to the end of our chemo treatments or are getting there. I have two more Docetaxol left. One tomorrow and I must say after being SO sick with febrile neutropenia I am nervous. I am hoping it goes ahead though cause the one tomorrow will be my second last treatment and I want to get chemo over with. That will leave me with one treatment to go in early Oct. How are the rest of you doing? Any of you Docetaxol girls let me know how you are doing with your treatments.
Take care,
Trusting
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JFV - I took steroids the night before my 1st two Taxols, but did not have to take them last time - or this week coming up. They did drip some steroids but overall, I got about a 60% reduction - which helped with sleep and side effects. If your onc is recommending it, good for you. Toni
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Tmarina.how it go today? mine went well so far (knock on wood) ihave 8 more to go, im getting there. i hope you have a great week!
Grney5600, how are you doing? i hope things went well and you good!
JFV, im sorry about your ONC, im not to thrilled with mine, there office is so messed up, they lost 2 ONC so things r backed up, its a mess! but i hear from everyone she is the best, either way im stuck at this point lol, yes im feeling much better about things,
well as good can get dealing with this. yes, im waiting for mine to go as well, can u get fake eyebrows, that like stick ons? my are so dark everyone will notice!!the eyelashes i cover with dark liner on the line just above and below low the eyeball i dont know what that thin line is called
Dmom, thank you for all the info, your right im feeling much better! its time to look into eating habits now. no more sugar for me.
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latte, im so glad your almost there!! yea!!! i have 8 more outa 12, right behind you,i cant wait to be done!!! i dont have to have rads, but should ask why? i know women who had MX's and have had rads,hmmmm
gin2ca, in so glad your done with chemo,not till second week in November for me, good luck with your rads!!!
SKD, yea!!! no rads, im happy for you
bon, how is mom doing? ive been thinking about her,
kittycat, wow what a scare! i hope your feeling better, im thinking of you. oh, i assume DH is hubby? i have been meaning to ask, what does it stand for?
vicky,we miss you!
as for me, im feeling good, i had # 9 Taxol today no probs so far but. i know i will sleep all day tomorrow since its 1 am here now, must be steroid high? all blood counts good, the office is a mess' worse then before. i was told today, i dont see ONC next Monday just blood but the following week they said they dont have an appt to give me before my chemo on Monday for blood just ONC visit? the could test my blood on Friday but that is 72 hours before chemo!!!! a lot can happen to blood in 72 hours. my ONC told me when i started Taxol she would not ever test me on Fridays( easier for me) cause she not comfortable with the time frame?? but its ok now? im a lil pissed off, i need my blood tested the day of or the day before, i asked the hospital where i get my chemo, they r so good to me there but they said they wont give me chemo unless is 48 hours or less, hmmmm what do i do? guess i will call the office nurse, she told me once before i had my teeth cleaned just come in anytime and they will test me to make sure counts r up? i really hate that office though the nurse and girls who take blood are great!! i guess i have 2 weeks to work it out with them, my sister just looked at the girl and said, how does she get her chemo then? she just looked at her and said we r just so booked up!! REALLY! lol i will make sure its not a misunderstanding before i complain too much
ok i hope you all stick around cause my chemo dont end till November, im soooo happy so many of us almost done but i dont want to lose any of you!! ill be the only one left in the june chemo thread lol
im thinking of you all and pray no SE's
love to all Chey
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Toni- Thanks for the reassurance that's good to hear.
Chey- so glad to hear you are fighting. I don't know what to tell you about your onc other than "sock it to'em girl."
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Chey-I know what you mean about the steroid high. I have #5 TCH tomorrow and I had to start with the pre meds this morning. I know I will be up all night!
I had my last fill yesterday! PS said to schedule my exchange surgery for November. I finally see a light at the end of the chemo & tissue expander tunnel. I walked out of there smiling
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Trusting, good luck on the docetaxol today. I hope all goes well for you. I have two left, this Friday and Oct. 08. After febrile neutropenia and a going unconcious once, I am very scared. I had an extra week off to recover and they are doing a 25% reduction in dose. I am still very scared. I feel like all the previous chemo and problems knocked the fight out of me. I also have to have neupogen shots this time. I hope the doc gives me something decent for the leg and bone pain or I might get nasty with him as I really suffered last time and don't intend to go through that suffering again. Let us know how it went for you.
Mimi
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Mimi: I get my last Docetaxel on Thursday. I meet with the onc later today. i was going to ask for a dosage reduction because of the bone pain and other side effects. But it's my last infusion, and with gabapentin last time, the bone pain was for only five days... maybe I could just be brave and deal with it. I don't know. I found the neuropathy much more intense and lasted for days and days this time, on my hands, feet, and face. This is rough for sure, but after hearing about you and Trusting with the febrile neutropenia, I am thinking I got off easy.
Yesterday I got the results from the tumour board. They are definitely recommending mastectomy.I have already had 2 excisions, they got the IDC, but not all the DCIS. I have a consultation with the surgeon in November to review options for reconstruction.
How long does it take to recover from mastectomy?
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Hello Sisters,
Northern Girl I had a BMX 36 days ago and last week started going back to the gym taking zumba, This week added yoga and step class. So for me ti was 3 weeks but i waited to push until the 4th week and my doctor said it was ok.
I have an appointment with the plastic srugeon today. I hpe he likes what he sees and can use the skin to fit a decent size implant.
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Northern Girl - I had a mastectomy on the right side and the PS did the implant at the same time. In fact the two surgeons wound up assisting each other. Because of that, I have not been able to do much exercising...the PS doesn't want me to put any pressure on that side - in fact I can't even sleep on that side. I also had 15 nodes removed so that also impacts recovery time. Hoping to get back to playing golf and swimming soon... Good Luck to you!
I had Taxol/Herceptin #3 last Friday - am having lots of bone and body aches..anyone else having this on the weekly treatments?They seem to bother me more at night. Taking tylenol, but it's not really helping that much. I'm happy to have my appetite back but not looking forward to 9 more weeks of body aches.
Blood counts are back to normal - didn't need neupogen shot #3 Monday.
Cheyenna - glad you are feeling better.
Hugs to all.
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Hi Ladies!
5 rads down, 16 to go. I am more relaxed about it now, not so nervous during the treatments. Here's a sad piece of news for all, like me, who are sick to death of drinking water during chemo. Guess what the advice is whilst on radiation? Yep, that's right, drink lots of water! Apparently water is the answer to all SEs from cancer treatment, LOL.
Julia
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Hello ladies,
I had to get my emotions under control. I had gone into a depression... just got tired of looking like a stranger.. I don't even recognize myself anymore..
I will be going to my last treatment tomorrow.. Mixed emotions... dreading the side effects but will be glad when this is all over.. I know I will be on steroid high and full of pain.. the benadryl does not even put me to sleep anymore.. so I am actually watching the clock..I think tomorrow I will ask for something that will make it go fast.. I will be by myself, husband has to work.. the eye brows have thinned out a whole lot and the eye lashes appear to be the same.. I thought my hair was growing back but that was wishful thinking.. the hair on my legs well I haven't had to shave all summer and still don't..on my arms it is really thin.
I will be stopping at marc's on the way home for those 10 dexamethodone pills.. and 15 vitamin waters.
I will have to try the Mac counter and then have someone show me how to draw them on..
I missed a lot while I was away.. but I want all of you to know that I did pray for each of you while I was gone... I will be glad when this journey is over for all of us..
@Chey, the journey is over but not the voyage.. Honey I don't think any of us is going anywhere.. this is just the begining...
We will still need cyber hugs...
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vicky thomas- I am SO very proud of you! In the face of your misery, you have the courage to do it ONE more time. It is my fervent prayer that God will reward you with a lifetime of cancer- free health. We will be right here if you need us.
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Hi Chey! You sound so much better--hope you continue to feel better! I have Taxol #3 next Monday--this past Monday was just Herceptin. Taxol has been giving me lots of aches and pains, but my onc gave me Percocet and that works pretty well. Other than that I am doing pretty good! This week I'm feeling much better!
Northerngirl--I had a lmx w/o recon and it took me about 3 weeks to recover. I had it doen May 24th, and I didn't have much pain or problems. I took Percocet for a few days, but after that I just used ibuprofen and tylenol if needed
To you Canadian girls on docetaxel--I'm thinking about you this week! Hoping this one goes MUCH better than the previous ones!!
Vicky--sorry to hear you've been depressed. I hope you are feeling better today. Let us know how the next tx goes--I'll be thinking about you tomorrow!
I'm starting to lose my eyelashes. The last few days I noticed there were some missing on the lower lashes and the top ones looked a little thinner, though there were no gaps on top. Today I was using my eylash curler and suddenly I felt something, and I just went "CRAP" and "NOOOO!" and I was afraid to look! Sure enough I pulled out a bunch of lashes--didn't hurt, they came right off. So now I have most of them missing from one eye, and just a few from the other eye! Good grief! I've heard they grow back quickly, and I hope that is the case. I have had to shave my legs again, although the hair grows very slowly. I don't think anything is growing on my head. For the first time, I felt like hiding for awhile! But, then again, who cares what others think??
Tina
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LAST CHEMO TODAY. I AM SOOO RELEAVED!
Vicky- glad you are sticking it out.
Tina- my GP told me spas will attach semio permanent lashes that will last for about 8 weeks. I am considering looking into it because I cannot do eye liner.
Norhtern girl I had BMX with immediate reconstruction with silicon implants. I needed a full 12 weeks to recover although every day was better. Still don't use weights, but I do ride a stationery bike and stretch each day. I think for me starting chemo about six weeks after BMX slowed me down alot.
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Ladies: Last chemo (Taxol) is tomorrow. I never thought this day would come!! VickiThomas - see if they will cut down on steroids and Benadryl. My onc did that and it made it much easier. Eyelashes aside, we are all doing great - crossing that finish line and I am so proud of every one of us. Here's to a restful night with no SEs! Toni
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CONGRATS JFV!!!
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