August 2010 Mastectomy

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  • LindaNZ
    LindaNZ Member Posts: 22
    edited September 2010

    Iago - am really glad to hear about your clear nodes - that's the most important result and fantastic that it turned out to be good. My ER is 90% and the PR is 95% so both very strong. Had my HER2 been + then I would probably be doing chemo like you. I do hope it goes ok for you.

    Thanks for asking Nancy. My hometown is Christchurch - the location of a 7.1 earthquake last Sat and hundreds of aftershocks ever since. This is the same approximate size as the Haiti earthquake - we have quite a bit of damage but nothing like what Haiti suffered at all. The houses of some of my friends are being condemned (and demolished) which is awful. However, we were very very lucky that noone died - would have been a different story had it happened during the day.

    I found a lump in the other breast last night!!! I can do without going through all this again. The disadvantage of a single MX ... After reading about you girls with your TEs I'm feeling lucky that I was able to do the immediate implant - so have gone straight to the hard super perky foob. And I can sleep on my side!

  • Nbb1032
    Nbb1032 Member Posts: 74
    edited September 2010

    Carrol2 - I was also a DD and they saved all the skin and it is folded all over so it is hard to try on clothes and look normal.  I did try on a few bras at Kmart today and nothing fit.  You said you were flat - so maybe they did not save the skin?  In that case you will have a very different experience.   For me, I'm going for a B.  Tired of lugging those big things around.  Lago - I'm wearing the "Barely there" bras too and it seems to be working well - especially with a few fills. Thanks for setting me straight on your DX.  JPB - Check in with us after you get home from the hospital.  It really does get better.  Smurfie - good to hear from you.  You really did a great job describing the total experience.  I had much the same.  1st 2 weeks a blur, middle weeks in pain, and much relief after two fills.  Feeling pretty good after 5 weeks but like you said, if you overdo it, you will pay for it later.   I am really jealous though - I still can't sleep on my side. BTW how much saline did the PS put in your expanders initially? (I had 300cc)  And I will take your advice on the PT.  I see the PS next week and maybe he can write a script for me.  My left arm really needs some work.  Mindy - Great news! Now you can concentrate on just getting better. RobinLM - Glad you are doing ok.  Now that I think about it my second and third week were probably the worst so hang in there.  You waited a long time for this.

  • Pawprint
    Pawprint Member Posts: 464
    edited September 2010

    Went for my first fill to my TE'S today. When I saw the size of those needles and syringes I almost passed out. The fill on the left side was great no discomfort at all. The fill on the right was painful. It's strange that the side that did not have lymph node surgery gives me the most pain. I am getting a refill on the vicodin in case i need it throughout the night or tomorrow. Doc PS said if I don't need chemo he may be able to do my exchange surgery by Christmas. Gummies for Christmas sound good to me.

    Sending you warm positive thoughtsJPB. Great news for you Winterstorm.

    It does get better, in time..........

  • Gatorgirl2003
    Gatorgirl2003 Member Posts: 1
    edited September 2010

    Good luck! my mother just had a double mastectomy done two days ago.  Are you getting tissue expanders at the same time?

  • Carrol2
    Carrol2 Member Posts: 2,903
    edited September 2010

    NBB1032

    I do have the skin, it's kind of all below the incision so I feel flat but not totally. I still have kind of little bottoms of the boobs and a little cleavage. I guess compared to DD it seems flat to me.  My old boobs were kind of wide too so now I feel very skinny on top. I used to wear XL or L tshirts. That works now as long as you can't see down the neck hole when I bend over. I just bought some Hanes mediums and it looks a little odd because my boobs are not even. I think if I got a comfy bra of some kind it would give the illusion of being even. Wow  B is a big difference from a DD. I am thinking more of a C. I am so straight at my hips and no butt I feel like I need the curves. I am just really afraid of how bad the TE surgery will be. But I have 3 months to wait because I am getting chemo now. So gotta find a way to look cute with what I have.

  • Nbb1032
    Nbb1032 Member Posts: 74
    edited September 2010

    Carrol2 - thanks for the info.  Sorry you have to go through chemo first.

    Broken and Chatta - I see you over on the implant thread.  It is REALLY difficult isn't it, to make sure you are getting what you want.    Those of us that had a lot of skin - it is almost impossible to imagine what we will look like in the end even with the help of whippetmom.   I think my TE"S are too wide.  I see the PS this Thursday for my 6 wk post op and I really have ALOT of questions.  I'm a little further in the process and hope to have the exchange done Beg of NOV.   More decisions!

    Nancy

  • lago
    lago Member Posts: 17,186
    edited September 2010

    I think everyone thinks their TE's are too wide. Right now I feel like I have well developed peck muscles (like guy body builders). I trust my PS so I'm not going to freak about it.

  • Pawprint
    Pawprint Member Posts: 464
    edited September 2010

    I'm just hoping as the swelling continues to go down they wont seem as wide. I'm not unhappy with them so far. Just looking forward to the gummies since these tissue expanders are as hard as bricks. I hope you get your exchange Nancy as early as Nov. Thats funny lago i was thinking about that male bodybuilder image too. Does anyone know how to see the picture forum?

    Hope all the girls from our August group are doing well. I'm still waiting on chemo decision from doc. Doesn't seem to be as many of us posting here anymore.

  • lovesnature
    lovesnature Member Posts: 82
    edited September 2010

    I still read several times a day.

    My issues now are getting enough sleep. I can't seem to get comfortable with the TE's. My prefered sleeping is on my side. I doubt I will be able to do that any time soon.

     I also seem to be retaining fluid in my lower legs Had an US and no blood clots So hopefully that goes away.

    My PS likes to wait a month post furgery for fills. It will actually end up being 5 weeks post surgery for first fill , due to scheduling. He did fill me to at least 200 cc's at surgery. No skin saving here, it's all pretty tight. I still have lot's of muscle spasm, to I'm religiously doing my excercises

    I bought a camisole from Nordstrum's, with pockets for these fiber-fill boobies. I actually prefer how I look just going au naturale. Glad I have it though just in case. Not really wearing anything fitted these days It's all about being comfortable.

     We are probably crazy, but we are going camping tomorrow for 4 days at Tahoe (not really roughing it, we have a fifth wheel).

     I yearn for something normal...

  • Carrol2
    Carrol2 Member Posts: 2,903
    edited September 2010

    Hey glad to hear people still posting here. I am on 34 days since surgery now. Went to zumba yesterday and did fine. Gonna clean the house a bit today. Big fun! But at least I can do it now. I still feel tight and its a little bit of a strain on my breath sometimes which makes me tired. But if I rest a little it goes away. 

    I will keep in touch. Chemo should be in about 2 weeks. Keep posting about reconstruction thats next after chemo for me. 

  • lago
    lago Member Posts: 17,186
    edited September 2010

    lovesnature seems with a onscreen name like that you should be camping. I'm pretty tight too but they did save skin…  just not a lot of skin when you were only an A cup. My PS says I can go for my first post surgery fill Wednesday if I feel up to it. I'm still pretty numb in that area. I don't see why not.

    Sleeping is getting better for me. I sleep through the night but do wake up only 2-3 times now. When you sleep on your back all the time you need to move. I just get up go to the bathroom then fall right back to sleep. When I first came home I was waking up every 1.5 hours. Be sure to prop pillows up as you need them. I'm using fewer and fewer these days.

    I do feel better and better every day. My left side does lag behind the right since 10 nodes removed in left and only 4 in right. I just can't wait to have my range back.

  • RobinLM
    RobinLM Member Posts: 143
    edited September 2010

    Hi Lago

    Have you got TEs? I thought you were one stop implants like me? I don't know about TEs but my implants feel hard as bricks and too wide!! Hoping it's swelling which will go down.

    Went to buy a bigger bra yesterday, tried on about 20, nothing fitted at all. Ones that fitted around the midriff were virtually empty in the cup......I think I need a wide but shallow/blunt version of a C cup... My foobs are totally unreal - so far anyway... :(

    My 300cc implants have dropped considerably now, my pec major tendons (running across front armpit to inner arm) are like wires...... I can move my arms about but the tendons are really sore, anyone else getting that? I also have lower sternum stabbing pains...... I have resorted to nytol, sleeping so much better now, can now lie almost on my side.... almost comfy... not quite :) Swelling around bra line lessening, I've been massaging it lightly with arnica gel. 

    Carol, I can't wait to start my 'zumba' equivalent........ boring being at home but not able to do anything interesting!!

    Enjoy your long weekend Broken Dreams

    Robinx

  • lago
    lago Member Posts: 17,186
    edited September 2010

    Nope got TE. I'm still a bit swollen in my torse. My stomach is still bloated. Yes my upper arms & pits are sore and at times a little of my lower arms. Feels like I've been lifting weights that were too heavy for me to lift. My implants seem wide too. I'm not going to worry though. There will be adjustments one the implants are placed. I'm sure you still have plenty of swelling too. My foobs look like superhero chest muscles, and I don't mean the female kinds.

    I still have limited range but its s-l-o-w-l-y improving.

  • Halah
    Halah Member Posts: 352
    edited September 2010

    Hi Robin, I'm still on vicodin. Not sure what others here in the US are on. I'm so jealous you had your drains taken out so fast! Are the little holes supposed to be sewn closed where the tubes were? My surgeon didn't do anything with mine where the two drains fell out. Two little holes. Concerned with infection.

    Lovesnature, Carrol I am so jealous! I love camping so much lovesnature. It is so hot here in Houston. All the time. All my shirts zip up and I sweat more since my surgery like ALL THE TIME. I keep my apartment at 69F-71F just to stay dry.

    Lago, I still am not able to sleep flat just yet, but it is getting easier to get up and down now.

    Wonder how JPB is doing.

  • lago
    lago Member Posts: 17,186
    edited September 2010

    winterstorm. I had been working out for the last 7 months both strength and aerobic training. Lots of crunches. I had a small 6 pack… this is why I'm able to get up from a flat position, granted not completely pain free but not to bad. Not too many other folks have been able to do that unless they had been in great shape, and I was.

  • Nbb1032
    Nbb1032 Member Posts: 74
    edited September 2010

    Lago - " well-developed pec muscles"  That's exactly what they look like!   Now I don't feel like such a freak!

    Lovesnature - Yeah, still can't sleep on my side.  Have fun camping this weekend in Tahoe. 

    I do understand how important it is to feel "almost normal".   Went dancing on Friday nite and on Sat nite took my first Zumba class!  (couldn't move my arms very well though) but it was fun to feel "normal" again.

    Mindy - I was concerned about infection too where the drain holes were.  So I kept a dressing or a bandaid on them until I saw that they had formed a scab.  I don't know if it was necessary or not but I felt better about staving off infection.

    Nancy

  • lago
    lago Member Posts: 17,186
    edited September 2010

    Well I washed and dryed/styled my hair tonight. Came out pretty decent. My old boss emailed me tonight asking if I could come in tomorrow for freelance. I'm actually going to work tomorrow. Hey it's been 2 weeks. Am I crazy?

  • Carrol2
    Carrol2 Member Posts: 2,903
    edited September 2010

    lago do you have a desk job? I was thinking I could have done more than I did but I did not have the same surgery as you. I had BMX no nodes no recon. I was ready to get out of the house week 3 but I waited until week 4 for my last appointment with the surgeon before I did anything. I felt better once I had permission from him. You don't want to undo any of your sutures when your healing.

  • lago
    lago Member Posts: 17,186
    edited September 2010

    Well it ends up I got there and the boss doesn't have a computer with the correct software. I'm now back at home working on my system. I'm just doing graphic production work. No heavy lifting ;D

    Today makes 2 week for me. Still a little sore and swollen. Black & blue (more yellow actually) is going away pretty fast… very faded now. Just wish the swelling would go down. My body seems so oddly shaped from my rib cage to my breast bone even on the sides.

  • Carrol2
    Carrol2 Member Posts: 2,903
    edited September 2010

    lago glad your doing well. Be sure to tell your doctor of any concerns. Can you put ice on the swelling? I did not have any swelling form my surgery but I know a lot of women do.

     I am also a graphic designer. I was a senior art director for 13 years when i got laid off but I was going to quit anyway. Now I only use my skills for my husbands business. I just did a DVD on "How to Paint  Motorcycle". I had to learn video but the print on the jacket and disks was a breeze. I was so proud of myself because I sent it all out to be printed and burned 3 days before my surgery and got it back 2 weeks after. Already sold about 30 of them and I did not even run an ad yet. Life goes on after cancer.

     If anyone wants to see our custom car and bike site it's www.spritzbyfritz.com 

  • Anne068
    Anne068 Member Posts: 176
    edited September 2010

    I'm sorry I wasn't posting so much.  I think I got overwhelmed with the recovery and seroma, then preparing for chemo ( I start today.. in less than 7 hours) and thinking about the reconstruction. So many choices.

    So I decided to back off and pretend I don't cancer.  Tongue out

    I'm worried about today, which should explain why its 230am, and I am wide awake. I have to get up in 4 hours.  This may be good. Maybe I'll sleep thru it! I get the port and 9 am, recovery, should be out around noon, then bloodwork, appt with onco before beginning chemo at 145.. they said it should take about 3+ hours. So I should be good and tired!!!

    About reconstruction.... Keep Posting!!! I saw the PS last week.. he is suggesting a DIEP with TE's... and exchanging the TEs out to Implants. His explanation is that the extra skin will be needed so it's not tooo thin. And I only have enough fat for maybe a small A.. Helllloooo????  I am (was) a large D!!!  So he says the tissue placed OVER the implant will give them a more natural, softer look, as well as get me to a larger size.  A " large D" cup may be stretching it, but he says that we should be able to get me to a large C or a small D. So I can be happy with that.

    I'm just having trouble finding out about the DIEP/Implant combo.  Undecided

     Hugs Ladies. I'm gonna try to snag a couple hours of sleep!!!

  • lago
    lago Member Posts: 17,186
    edited September 2010

    Anne, Good luck today! Check out these threads regarding DIEP:

    http://community.breastcancer.org/forum/44/topic/757928

    http://community.breastcancer.org/forum/44/topic/751816

    Carrol I've been a designer (industrial designer including: toys, board games, video games, web) for decades but only a graphic designer for 5 years. I went back to school for another degree in graphic design. To bad the economy has been crap. I was laid off from this last job in Mmid January… granted the place should have gone under several years ago. Not sure how he is managing to pay his employees… Oh wait I remember pay checks were always late, 1/2 the employees left are all under 30 making a little over 30K and other 1/2 are unpaid interns. I was let go because he couldn't afford to pay me.

  • RobinLM
    RobinLM Member Posts: 143
    edited September 2010

    Hi everyone,

    I'm back to work as of yesterday - a desk job, 13 days post surgery, felt OK afterwards..... worrying about getting up in a timely fashion is affecting my sleep quality, will get better.Smile

    I'm able to move about no problem, waviing my arms about is sore, thinking to get myself organised with some physio just in case. Everything getting better very quickly. Hoping to get steristrips off thursday. Going 'team building' tomorrow, a night with work pals in a lovely country hotel, slap up dinner and lots of 'anaesthetic' , and being paid to enjoy myself - will be greatTongue out

    Winterstorm: my drain holes closed immediately, I had a plaster on the first day after but then nothing....

    Anne068: Best luck for today, hope everything goes OK x

    Lago, Nancy, There's a lot of us 'Super Heroine' types aroundWink

  • sunnybluesky
    sunnybluesky Member Posts: 26
    edited September 2010

    OK my dear August Friends! 

    It has been 10 days--10 days !! since my last post.  I keep up on all your news almost every day, but I don't have access to the computer until after my DH is done telecommuting for the day and by that time, I'm ready for bed LOL!  So first I would like to thank you for coming to my side when I was in distress: 

    Lago-- for all the information about size of tumor and pathology--that was a real boost!

    Carrol2-- for telling me about oncotypes.  Oh and I checked out your web site about your custom car and bike designs--fabulous!  I even watched the videos of Fritz freehand painting and gold leafing.  Is Fritz your DH?

    Paula1231-- for the info about pathology and also that very informative link to cancer math.  I love your quote  about the "woods are lovely , dark and deep... one of my favorite Robert Frost poems.  It made me take some time away from reading about breast cancer ( whew! ) and see life slowly, oh so slowly moving toward normal and life beyond cancer!

    Winterstorm-- great news -- no chemo, no rads and clear margins!  YEA!

    Brokendreams-- Got a big chuckle out of you knocking people out with your brick-like TE's!  Lethal weapons for sure.  My TE is high, hard and sensitive to touch.  I can also feel a wrinkle.

    Anne068-- I can identify with pretending you don't have cancer -- I put my head in the sand on a regular basis!  Thinking about you as you start chemo---sending good thoughts...

    RobinLM-- your evening out sounds WONDERFUL!!  All of us August ladies should follow in your footsteps!  Remember, we have to take care of ourselves after all those years of putting everyone else first!  My sister who is 14 years past breast cancer (!!!!), said to (pardon the pun) milk this for all its worth LOL  My family and friends have been treating me like a Queen, but I'm ready to get back to my old feisty, independent self as soon as I get the go ahead from BS!

    LindaNZ-- hope your homeland is recovering from the earthquake--living in California, I know how scary the aftershocks can be.  What is happening with the lump in your other breast? I also only had a single MX and right now I'm even afraid to just touch my other side. sending you best thoughts so all is OK.

    I am now 2 weeks post MX.  All went well--I had not much pain--the most uncomfortable thing is sensitivity over the incisions ( like a sunburn--really ) and a bit of a pull at the drain site. It is also tight under the TE.  When the drain is down to less than 30cc/24 hours, it will be removed.  That will be the first time I will see my PS.  I had a skin-sparing MX, so I have a lot of tissue which is quite firm. I remember someone said when you get your first fill. it unwrinkles the TE and it feels better, so I'm looking forward to that! Laughing

    I saw my medical onc a week ago and he was so kind, I immediately liked him.  He spent a lot of time with me and my DH.  With all the markers and path, he was very optimistic and said that as I was ER+, PR+, HER-, node negative, he would order the OncogeneDX.  I asked him about the size increasing from 1.6 on the mammogram to 2.5 on the surgical specimen and he said he was less concerned about size as he was about biological activity.  I said I tell my husband the same thing and I think I saw the onc actually blush! Embarassed 

    So I have another two weeks before the results come back, so I'm treating this time as a mini vacation from all thoughts and it has actually been quite lovely.  I started meditating and visualizing 15 years ago when I was diagnosed with Lupus and it is second nature to me now and I can "escape" at a moments notice! Cool

    Thinking about you all with great hopes for our LONG and HEALTHY future and my deepest gratitude for "being there" .....

  • sunnybluesky
    sunnybluesky Member Posts: 26
    edited September 2010
    jpb -- it will be a week tomorrow since your surgery.  Sending << HUGS>> for a good recovery.  If you have any concerns, this is the place for fine support and just to talk.
  • dawney
    dawney Member Posts: 211
    edited September 2010

    Sunnyblue..  You made me laugh out loud with that size comment.  Sounds like a comment my DH would make!

  • Halah
    Halah Member Posts: 352
    edited September 2010

    Biological activity?? hahahaha gosh sunny you crack me up. You have a wonderful and infectious attitude!

    Well I'm back to hoping for the best and expecting the worst. I still don't know my HER2 status, and am a candidate for the oncotype dx test. Not sure I would like tamoxifen but my medical onco recommended this last month when I saw him. Soooo many risks and side effects there. But I will keep an open mind.

    Hey lago, I've developed 6-pack abs now! (I'm a quick study!) I can get up and down lying flat now, easy. lol

    But golly gee, the incision sites are so sensitive and I'm busting at the seams! They feel tight. I'm ready for normalcy! Ready for my last two drains to be gone this Friday!!! I'll tell my surgeon I'm the boss and to be rid of them NOW, I want to try some of my old clothes. I want to start working out at the gym, just using the recumbant machines for now. And I want a real shower! I don't feel comfortable doing so with the drains still there. I don't want them falling out on me! Not much luck for me in that area.

    I hope all of y'all are healing well. Time for bed. G'nite.

  • Carrol2
    Carrol2 Member Posts: 2,903
    edited September 2010

    sunnybluesky

    Glad to hear your doing well. yes Fritz is my DH who is indeed very talented I am very proud of him.

  • JanetinVirginia
    JanetinVirginia Member Posts: 1,516
    edited September 2010

    I'm scheduled for mastectomy (left) in 2 weeks.  I'm hoping for the best regarding SNB results immediately afterward (frozen section).  But it REALLY worries me surgeon said sometimes (15%) the followup pathology analysis (when they go slice by slice) can find cancer.   This is the worst roller coaster ride I've ever had.   Any experience with this?  Did your surgeons tell you the same thing? 

  • lago
    lago Member Posts: 17,186
    edited September 2010

    Winterstorm Why are they recommending tamoxifen? Aromatase inhibitors seem to have a slightly better result and are good for post menopausal women. I know my oncologist is putting me on one of these because she expects me to be post menopausal from chemo (and I am peri, possible I might be in fullblow menopause and my age is so close anyway she knows I won't be getting my period back).

    The chances of you being HER2+ is like 20-25%. I wouldn't expect the worst if I were you. Granted I wasn't so lucky. Do you know what grade your tumor was. Typically I think HER2+ tumors tend to be grade 3.

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