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  • JFV
    JFV Member Posts: 795
    edited September 2010

    Jmorrow- chemo brain is when you do odd things you wouldn't normally.  They are usually funny and flaky.  My chemo nurse says they have done studies and there is such a thing. One of my chemo brain moments is when I used the ladies room during my 7th chemo and got lost trying to find my way back to my cubicle!  The nurse laughed and pointed it out to me.  Then I didn't believe her when she showed me where it was! 

    I guess if there is a severe version there were times when I was taking A/C chemo that I did not feel like I could trust myself driving a car.  I felt like my reactions were too slow to be trust worthy in traffic.  These times didn't last long and obviously not everyone gets them because plenty of people lead active lives during chemo.  This is just my story.

    NorthernGirl- Glad you are getting away!  Enjoy!

  • flopsy
    flopsy Member Posts: 365
    edited September 2010

    Bon,  I have just had my rad onc consult and CT scan (which must be done before any simuation)for dosimetry planning was yesterday.  I don't even go back until 9/20 for simulation.  It takes some time in between planning and simulation for them to calculate dose and treatment plan.  I finished chemo 1 mth ago and rad onc said okay to start rads anytime but it will still be several more wks before I actually start with treaments..   I don't think your rads dept will be any faster because I understand the timing is rather routine.  Hope this helps answer your questions.  Good luck with all,LOL,gin2ca

  • VickyThomas
    VickyThomas Member Posts: 54
    edited September 2010

    Hey ladies.. just checking in and reading up on all the post.. I am considering completeing.. If I don't Chey will probably fly in and drag me herself.. Now that she has turned this monster into a butterfly.. One week from last treatment and the musle spasms are still there.. I haven't slept, and I now have a chemo headache, my fingers are still funky and feeling funky... Sometimes I can't even hold things.. and even typing I just know how.. If I do go to treatment I don't know about getting the Neulasta shot.. I shouldn't have to with this being the last treatment..

  • PearlGirl
    PearlGirl Member Posts: 549
    edited September 2010

    Vicky, I got Neulasta after my last tx so that my WBC would be in a good range. The chemo knocks it down. The Neulasta builds it up. So if you get Neulasta then you are all set for whatever else comes your way. It's starting cold and flu season and you need to have your WBC up and available to fight infection.

  • PearlGirl
    PearlGirl Member Posts: 549
    edited September 2010

    gin2ca...My rads simulation and planning will be on the Friday, the 17th. The RO says he will do the calculations over the weekend and get me started sometime the week of the 20th.  By then I'll be approximately 4 weeks post chemo. He said the goal was to complete all 33 tx in 6.5 weeks but that it won't hurt anything if it goes longer. But he wants to start the week of the 20th. And he said it could start any day, Monday thru Thursday...doesn't think starting on Fridays is a good idea. I'll let you know how it goes.

  • gingersfavorite1
    gingersfavorite1 Member Posts: 273
    edited September 2010

    love the little poem / story Bon!     I am going to copy it and share with friends.    

  • PearlGirl
    PearlGirl Member Posts: 549
    edited September 2010

    Glad you liked it, Stephanie. I thought it was particularly apropos for all of us bald beauties! Bon

  • flopsy
    flopsy Member Posts: 365
    edited September 2010

    Jmorrow,  I describe chemo brain as being similar to a temporary alzheimer's in that you can't seem to recall the last 5 minutes but 5 yrs ago is fine.   Thankfully, I do think chemo brain is most often temporary unlike alzheimer's.   I have trouble recalling the right simple ordinary word for things when I am talking and it is embarassing but I can't help it.   I always had an excellent memory and wonderful command of the English language before all of this chemo.  Hopefully, I will again.  My chemo treatments always left my head feeling somewhat out of sorts and heavy with a feeling of a weird sea sickness.  Hard to describe.  Hope you don't have that.   LOL,gin2ca

  • DesignerMom
    DesignerMom Member Posts: 1,464
    edited September 2010

    Bon-  I loved the poem too.  The ultimate when you get lemons, make lemonade attitude!

    Vicky- Did you get something other than codeine for pain?  I hope you stopped vomiting.  I am SO proud of you for considering finishing your chemo!  Just ask yourself if a year from now you will be glad you DID it or DID NOT do it.  And yes, that Cheyenna seems sweet, but I bet she might fly out there and drag you to your last treatment!

    Today is the first day that it truly feels and smells like Autumn here in NYC.  This is my absolutely favorite time of year.  I am cooking a big pot of hominy, chicken, red pepper, olive soup to celebrate.  Just for a bonus, I hear my neighborhood bagpipe player (you heard right) practicing in the park.  Everyone is dressed up for the Jewish New Year and I hear bagpipes in the distance!  Another reason why I love New York.

  • PearlGirl
    PearlGirl Member Posts: 549
    edited September 2010
    Oh, DesignerMom, a zillion years ago we lived in a house around the corner from a guy who played the bagpipes. On some evenings he would go out into his yard and practice. It was great to hear him play, especially in the fall when the leaves would be turning shades of red and gold and the wind would blow softly. That's a really treasured memory. (And no, he wasn't wearing a kilt when he practiced...just jeans. It didn't seem right to see a bagpiper in denim, though!)
  • grneyd5600
    grneyd5600 Member Posts: 420
    edited September 2010

    Back from Taxol #4. Made out ok with the tx but it took forever today.  The Infusion center was packed - actually had people waiting for an open chair.  Nurses were hoping!  They reduced my Decadron to 10 mg from 20 so hopefully the sleeplessness and the weight gain will ease a bit.  I had gained 8.4 bls in 3 weeks.  Ugghhh!!!  Onc told me to keep my calories at 1600 a day (no lower) and to excercise when I can.  Yea, right.  Anyway, I guess I am dieting even on chemo.  Geez!

    Hope you all have a great afternoon.  I keep you all in my prayers every day!

  • PearlGirl
    PearlGirl Member Posts: 549
    edited September 2010

    grneyd5600...Jackie, so glad that tx  #4 went well. Here's hoping the all the SEs stay away and you have a good weekend. I hear you about weight. The steroids just packed on the pounds for me, especially when I was taking them for the rash and concurrently got them as part of tx. I gained 8 lbs in about 8 days!  I hate the idea that when this is all over I'll have a long dieting regimen ahead of me! You're smart to start now. Right now I just can't. I have no hair, I have no energy, I'm broke from medical bills...food is all I have left!  Only kidding, but dieting just isn't something I can handle right now. Manana....is good enough for me!

  • Trusting
    Trusting Member Posts: 43
    edited September 2010

    Hi,

    Northern Girl and Mimi....well I have to tell you that Febrile Neutropenia was a kick in the ass. I had more IV antibiotics than I care for. It was scary and I was very sick. Mimi why the abdominal ultrasound? I had a stomach ache prior and diarrhea. I have also had irregular vaginal bleeding. Oncologist said from chemo. A little spotting for a couple weeks. Then goes away and comes back. I was not menopausal prior to chemo as I am 45. Anyone else have this? Cause I am like do I have uterine cancer too! I have 2 more Docetaxol treatments to go and I must. I am nervous but I will be completing my treatments if it is the last thing I do.I will see my own oncologist next Tuesday and that is when I am due to have chemo. She did not treat me in hospital as I was in a hospital closer to home and she was away. I wonder if it will delay my treatment.

     Thank you to everyone else who has sent their good wishes. You are all wonderful and supportive people.

     Take care,

    Trusting

  • Jenmarie9
    Jenmarie9 Member Posts: 43
    edited September 2010

    I saw my breast surgeon today for my 3 month follow up. I can't believe its been 3 months since my bilat mastecomy. Anyway, she told me that the port can either come out during my exchange surgery or after I've completed Herceptin. If it comes out with the exchange, then I have to deal with "finding a good vein" for the remainder of the Herceptin infusions. If I keep it in until after Herceptin, then I have to deal with another surgery and a new scar to get the port out. I really like the convenience of the port. I see so many people having problems in the chemo room without one. Anyone else have to make this decision? Not sure what to do.

    Thanks. I don't post too often, but I keep up with all of you every day.

    Hugs, Jen

  • DesignerMom
    DesignerMom Member Posts: 1,464
    edited September 2010
    Bon and Jackie- I read on another thread several ladies were fretting about having gained weight from steroids.  They also said they were thrilled that ALL the weight disappeared within a matter of weeks after finishing steoids, without trying.   I'm sure it is mostly water retention.  Please don't add extra pressure on yourselves to diet.  Just focus on eating nutritiously to get your health and energy back again.  And yes...indulge in that chocolate every once in a while.  Oooh!  I'm not even a chocolate person, but I just saw a healthy flourless dark chocolate cupcake recipe made with almond butter.  Maybe chemo changed my tastes from vanilla to chocolate, because I am seriously wanting that!
  • mimi9186
    mimi9186 Member Posts: 127
    edited September 2010

    Trusting, during the febrile neutropenia, my fever was from a large bowel infection.  they did a CT scan of the abdomen along with IV antibiotics.  The scan showed ++ inflammation.  they did another one yesterday which showed the inflammation was resolving.  I have diverticulitis and every chemo REALLY upsets my guts. I am doing 4 docetaxol instead of 3.  It is the yuckiest of all.  The constant bad taste, the runny bleeding nose, the twitchy eye, the severe gut pain, I can hardly wait for the next one. I have to have a Nuepogen shot 48 hrs after this time. Anybody had this?  Any side effects to look out for?

    Love and Hugs, Mimi

  • kittycat
    kittycat Member Posts: 2,144
    edited September 2010

    jmorrow - a lot of us have chemo brain.  I forget names, things I'm doing, go the wrong way to places, etc.  Today, I waved at my neighbor and then realized it was my husband (who was just visiting our neighbors)!  LOL!!!  Sometimes it's frustrating, but most of the time it's kind of funny.  I have to write things down or I'll forget about them! 

    Vicky - I'm so glad you are looking to finish treatment!  It is really important - and I'll be there with Chey to drag you in!!! :)  Can you call your onco and tell them about your side effects?  Sometimes the anti-nausea meds can give you an awful headache.  Or it could be all those pain killers!!!  I really think the Vicodin is a bad idea.  For pain, I take Tylenol or Percoset (when it's bad).  Good luck!!

    Okay, I'm really tired and need to go to bed.  I have a maid coming to clean my house in the morning and i'm still up!!!  At least my house will be clean!  Yipeee!!!!

  • kittycat
    kittycat Member Posts: 2,144
    edited September 2010

    jenmarie9 - my friend who is on Herceptin kept her port in.  I have awful veins, so I am so glad I have a port! 

  • NorthernGirl
    NorthernGirl Member Posts: 67
    edited September 2010

    MIMI:  Neupogen and Neulasta are drugs that are used to boost neutrophil production so that you don't get neutropenia. Both are used for high dose chemo patients. Neulasta lasts longer in the blood stream so you only need one injection 24 hours after chemo. For neupogen you get  injections daily for several days, depending on how low your blood count is and how well you respond. If you are get weekly chemo you would get Neupogen not Neulasta. A possible side effect for both is bone pain. Neulasta is really expensive, like $3000 per shot, neupogen is about $300. We had to check whether our drug plan would cover the Neulasta (thankfully, it did)

    Hang in there Mimi. This Docetaxel stuff is wicked, but we can do this. I hear you about the twitching eyes and the nose bleeds. I feel like such a mess, but there's a better "us" coming at the end of all this!

    Bon, I love the poem!

    Jenmarie9: I have bad veins so I am keeping my port till Herceptin is done... I hate the little bump in my chest, I hate knowing there's a plastic device in me and I will be celebrating when it's removed!

    Re: Work. I couldn't do chemo and work. Too much physical stuff with special events and long days. I took a leave for a year, they hired a temp so even if I feel I can go back before that, it would complicate things. I am taking the full year... till next March. Despite being so sick, I have really enjoyed being off this summer, and I am in no hurry to return until I feel well. I hope I get a few months where I feel well, and can catch up on some household projects. I thought it would be tougher to adjust from two incomes to one, but it has been okay. I am sure I couldn't do that if I was single.

    Is anyone else due for mastectomy when their chemo is done? How long was recovery?

  • grneyd5600
    grneyd5600 Member Posts: 420
    edited September 2010

    DesignerMom - I want that recipe - it sounds yummy!  I am a chocolate girl.  I actually took my Onc nurses litle bags of chocolates this week.  They were a mixture of milk chocolate hearts and pink ribbon chocolates.  The lady I found that does housecleaning for Breast cancer patients also makes chocolates!  My nurses raved about them all day yesterday during chemo. 

    Vicky - If you do that last tx and need someone to go with you let me know.  I will be there girlfriend!  Whatever it takes to get you through. 

    Well, I did manage to sleep last night until 2 am today.  Have been wide awake since then so I am going to put it to good use - I am going down to elliptical and watch an episode or two of House.  He is just insane enough to make me laugh this morning.  I did manage to lose another 1/3 of my eye lashes over night.  I can't help but wonder where they go?  I checked the sheets and the pillow case and didn't find them.  Strange!  On another note, I am seriously considering being a Qtip for Halloween.  My hair is starting to come back in on my head (yes while my eye lashes all fall out) so I figure by Halloween I will have enough to look like a Qtip.  Problem is - hair on the side is snow white but the hair on the very top is dark.  Guess I will have to be a dirty Qtip. Wink

     Ok one final thought for the day "Seize each new day with renewed strength, Believe in yourself.  Go forward with the courage and faith to face whatever tomorrow may bring."

    Be well my friends!  Have a good day. 

  • jmorrow
    jmorrow Member Posts: 14
    edited September 2010

    Thanks for the replies about chemo brain...I do believe I have it! I am starting to write down important things so I dont forget to do them. I dont sleep very well and this heartburn or whatever it is is terrible! It burns all the way to my stomach. But from what Ive read it not abnormal. Thanks again for your help! Julie

  • JFV
    JFV Member Posts: 795
    edited September 2010

    Jmorrow- Ask Bon about hearburn.  I whined for days and am on 3 different meds for heartburn right now.  Try to get some treatment for it.

    Vicky-  Please keep going.  what you are going through is torture and completely unfair.  But, it would be terrible if you missed one little microscopic cancer cell.

    grneyday-  I love the costume idea!  I am losing the rest of my hair and some of my eyebrows and eyelashes this week.  A friend suggested that if my eyelashes stay even I should put on a coat of mascara, powder the lashes lightly with baby powder and put on another coat of mascara.

    Jenn-  I have been told to keep my port in for a year.  Not happy about that, but it has been a saving grace to my veins.  I just need to figure out how often and where to get it flushed out post chemo.  My husband's Aunt has had hers in for well over 5 years!

    I am so sorry for those of you who had febrile neutropena.  What fresh h#ll is that!  Hope you are feeling better.

    Better go seeing regular onc for my post chemo follow up.  Last Taxol next Wednesday!

  • PearlGirl
    PearlGirl Member Posts: 549
    edited September 2010

    Jmorrow...I have terrible acid reflux or GERD and had to resort to a combo platter of meds to get it under control somewhat. I take OTC Prilosec first thing in the AM, then Gas-x at lunchtime, followed by Pepcid-AC at dinner and another Prilosec at bedtime. And the occasional Tums as needed. When I went for my rads consult this week, the RO told me to keep on that for a while and then see if being out of chemo a month or 6 weeks doesn't help straighten it out some. I can tell you that I've not been having such a problem mid-day now 2 weeks after the last chemo, but it still isn't right and I won't stop my self medicating regimen for fear the pain will come back full force.

    grney5600...Jackie, I love the q-tip idea! Very imaginative. And as for eye-lashes, I've been reading other boards to get info on rads and beyond. And I found a board where the women were discussing how their eyebrows and particularly their eyelashes fell out a few weeks AFTER chem was over. That was pretty annoying to read, since I'd just convinced myself that the lashes left needed mascara and I was ready to go buy some. But also on that board was info that a L'Oreal product for lashes, some type of reconditioning product, worked well. So I will go lokk for that.

     JFV...Joan, my port still bothers me and I really hate the idea of having it for another 9 months, but it has saved my one good vein for blood draws so I'll keep it and pray that it continues to work. I just find that I can't roll over during the night or it gets 'crushed' and is painful. I just have to learn to sleep on my back more. And HOORAY for you that your last Taxol is next Wednesday!  Another milestone! Oh, and how did you like the RO?

    DesignerMom...Ok, flourless chocolate cake won't help me lose the extra pounds (and I do wish they were going to drop off instantly when this chemo has totally cleared my system, though I doubt it's all water weight, but it's so sweet of you to say so) but it sounds great. I actually looked at a recipe for that this past weekend when I was trying to see about making something special for my Mom who must remain gluten free. I didn't make it but I thought about it. Do I get some points for that?

    Oh, Just an FYI... I was reading a board where the women are part-way or nearly through the rads tx and found that someone's RO or MO recommended taking Ibuprofen 3X/day during rads tx, saying that even many weeks into rads women avoid bad burns if on Ibuprofen. Next week I will ask my MO if it's OK to do that while I'm still on Herceptin and then run it past the RO, too,  when I go for staging on the 17th.

  • kaycee
    kaycee Member Posts: 39
    edited September 2010

    Hi Ladies,

    I saw my oncologist yesterday for a hospital follow-up. She believes I have developed pulmonary toxicity to taxotere (docetaxel) and has decided to stop chemo. 

    Being triple negative, I'm worried about not being able to complete my treatments (I've had 3 of 4 TCs), but my oncologist says skipping the last treatment will only raise my risk of reoccurence 1-2%. I certainly hope she is right about that figure!

    I will meet with my oncologist and pulmonologist in 2 weeks to see how my right lung is looking. Apparently my radiation will be put off for as long as it takes to clear my lung infiltrates.

    Yours, in limbo,

    Kaycee

  • RS711
    RS711 Member Posts: 105
    edited September 2010
    Hey just wanted to share a bit of info, I was researching different teas, and I found that White tea may hinder DNA mutations (potentially cancer-causing changes in genetic material) even more efficiently than green tea according to a 2000 study that tested four white tea varieties (Silver Needle, Flowery Pekoe, Mutan White, and Exotica China White).

    In an animal-based study published the following year, researchers found that white tea may be a powerful inhibitor of aberrant crypts (a precursor to colon cancer).

    Plus, it has less caffeine than green.

  • jmorrow
    jmorrow Member Posts: 14
    edited September 2010

    Bon- thanks for the info. I have been taking prilosec..not much relief. Cant really eat. Even water makes it worse. At first I thought maybe there was something else wrong with me but I guess its just a side effect from the chemo. I just keep telling myself that it could be worse. But it really hurts! Thanks again-Julie

  • Jenmarie9
    Jenmarie9 Member Posts: 43
    edited September 2010

    Thank you for your responses. I am leaning towards keeping the port until the Herceptin is done. The thought of one more surgery though...UGH.

    I can totally relate to the chemo brain. I can laugh at myself sometimes, but today I'm so frustrated by it all. I am not myself these days. I hopped into the car today with the kids and looked at the gauges and said "Huh...who filled up my gas tank??" The kids replied, "You did Mom. You did it yesterday on the way home". I seriously had to think about it before I believed them.

    TCH #5 coming up on Wednesday.

  • TMarina
    TMarina Member Posts: 692
    edited September 2010

    Hi all. There have been so many things I've wanted to respond to the last few days, but Taxol se's have kicked in!  I'm all drugged up today (for the body aches--ouch!), so I better be careful what I say! Cool

    One comment on the port though--my onc told me its up to me when to have it removed, but he recommended (as did another friend) that I keep it until my scan following chemo.  Then if everything is ok, have it removed then.  Its so nice to have the port for scans--really saves the veins.  For colon cancer, I had a ct scan 4 months after chemo.  I guess I'm not even sure what type of test/scan there will be after chemo for bc, but if its something the port can be used for, I'll keep it until then.  I don't even notice its there, so not in a hurry to have it removed anyway.

    I feel so bad for Kaycee and the other ladies having such a tough time with taxotere.  Please know that I am thinking about you!  And vicky too (don't remember which chemo you have!).  Its so frustrating that this has to be so difficult for some of you! 

    My eyebrows and lashes seem to be thinning--but the hair on my legs is starting to grow!

    Notherngirl, I feel the same way as you about work!  I want to feel good and enjoy some time off before I go back.  Thankfully our insurance is through my husband's work.

    Bon, loved the poem!

    I hope everyone can stay out the hospital and enjoy some of the weekend!  You are all in my prayers!!

  • sandiddstn
    sandiddstn Member Posts: 88
    edited September 2010

    Hello ladies.... I had my last Taxol treatment Tuesday!!! :)   YEA!!!  Been a little out of sorts latlely but at least I get the normal week  and then 2 more weeks off... Hubby and I are going to see daughter in Charleston.  Can't wait.  She is doing her 1st rotation in the hospital there...

    Cheyenna- still a little scared about the "red devil"  I am not looking forward to it.. Don't know if I can do it.  My nerves are shot... worring...

    Don't know what or where I would be without you girls...  this forum is the best.. Even on my worst days I can come here and feel I am not  alone...  Don't know you all but feel love for you all..  weird I know but hey !!!

  • sandiddstn
    sandiddstn Member Posts: 88
    edited September 2010

    Oh yeah had MUGA and I think it was good... 64...Dr said it was normal.. but normal what is that now...  I look in the mirror and I don't know the person looking back... I'm like "who is that"  LOL

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