Budwig diet/Flax oil

Thank you so much for your answers and support, it's very very kind of you.

CrunchyPood, I don't know already how long I will stay in hospital, beacause it will depend of how many nodes they will take. It's difficult for me to find the right words in my dictionary but they have a method now to take as less nodes as possible.

The surgeon said at least 3 days, but if they take more nods it could be 6 days.

For the food I will try to get in touch with the Hospital ‘s nutrition specialist and I will ask her of course fresh things....I keep my fingers crossed ;-)

maybe I will take my coffee grinder and take flaxseeds instead of FO.

For my family, I didn't say it in my previous mail, but the Hospital I'll stay is situated at 130 kms from my home, so it's difficult for them to bring me some fresh food. My "husband" (we are not married) will be next to me and my in-laws will take care of my little son.

I can see that you have changed many things in your life. I have already made these changes for a few years ...since my son is born. I haven't changed the clothes yet. But the cosmetics yes and above all for my son.

For the cell phones, the computer, the TV do you have some articles named CMO? to protect against the radiations. I have one on my cell phone and plan to buy others.

Thank you so much Nan for your post, it's very kind of you. The problem for me is to understand the scientific vocabulary and the abbreviations. Your translation for my diagnostis is not what I wrote when I joined this forum and filled the form, I don't know if I can change it.

I probably won't be able to write the next 2 days but I will contact you on Saturday.

Thank you again for your help and support.

Dear Laurence,

It was not I who posted your diagnosis, but I am glad to see that you have corrected that. Here is an article which is so very important when having surgery to remove cancer. It is already translated to French, and is from the Life Extension Organization. I know that you wil be having surgery this week, but I do hope that you can at least show this article to your surgeons.

http://www.systranlinks.com/trans?systran_lp=en_fr&systran_url=http://www.lef.org/magazine/mag2009/dec2009_Preventing-Surgery-Induced-Cancer-Metastasis_01.htm

There was no date listed with this article but I will try to find one:

From http://www.florahealth.com/flora/home/Canada/HealthInformation/Encyclopedias/Phytoestrogens.htm

Flax News - Positive Clinical Findings:
Researchers Find Flaxseed Can Slow Tumour Growth in Breast Cancer Patients
(CP) - A muffin a day - with 50 grams of ground flaxseed - could keep breast cancer at bay, according to a new Canadian study. The researchers found there was a "slowing down in tumour growth" in breast cancer patients fed flaxseed muffins.

"Our results are very exciting because this is the first time anyone has demonstrated these changes in breast cancer with any dietary component," said Dr. Paul Goss, director of the breast cancer prevention program at Princess Margaret Hospital and the Toronto Hospital.

Earlier animal studies have shown that flaxseed has anti-cancer properties, but the researchers were surprised by how potent the effect appears to be in people.

"It encourages us to believe this is a very significant biological effect in women and we are heading towards more definitive proof that dietary flaxseed may prevent breast cancer," Goss said.

Goss presented his research team's finding on Wednesday at an international breast cancer conference in San Antonio, Tex.

The study involved 50 women who had been recently diagnosed with breast cancer. While waiting for their surgery, the women were divided into two groups. One group received a daily muffin containing 50 grams of ground flaxseed, about 30 milliliters (two tablespoons). The others were prescribed ordinary muffins. When their tumours were removed - usually within 40 days of diagnosis - the researchers examined them for signs of how fast the cancer cells had been growing.

It turned out that the women who had received the flaxseed muffins had slower-growing tumours than the others. Goss noted that more studies are needed to determine flaxseed's true effectiveness.
 

The above article seems to have been written around 2001.  If you Google Dr. Paul Goss Toronto Flax, a number of articles will be displayed regarding this research.  Dr. Goss is a respected nutritional scientist and breast cancer researcher in Canada.

Beatis, could you please elaborate?  My naturopath has me taking 4 tblsp flaxseed/day to inhibit cancer.  Are there studies showing flaxseed doing harm to women with breast cancer?

@ Weedgirl,

Flaxseed contains a plant-hormone and as such it has phytoestrogenic effects. This means that patients with estrogen receptor positive breast cancer (ER+) should be careful in using flaxseed. You had best you check with your oncologist about this.

The most active ingredient in flaxseed is omega 3 fatty acid. While there are obvious health benefits to omega oils, the huge benefits that were hoped for in relation to cancer have yet to be proven. Outcomes of scientific research are conflicting as well as sometimes disappointing in this respect.

The reason why many nutritionists advice flax seed instead of for example fish oil, is because flax seed contains far greater levels of omega oils than fish.

While this is true, flax seed also contains estrogenic compounds - which some scientists think may be a problem for women with ER+ breastcancer.

Flax seed also contains large amounts of fibre, due to which it is not very "assimilable".

There also is a problem with the form of omega oils in flax seed: flax seed contains a short-chain plant form, and before this can be beneficial, it must first be converted in your body to the long-chain animal forms (DHA en EPA). When you account for the poor conversion of flax seed in your body, then flax seed and fish contain roughly the same amounts of omega oil.

I think it is much easier to eat two or three servings of fatty fish a week than to try and get 4 tablespoons of flax seed into you every day, but of course that is a matter of personal preference.

Here is an overview of the research on flax seed for various conditions, among which cancer: http://www.mskcc.org/mskcc/html/69220.cfm 

And here is an overview of the research of omega oil in relation to cancer: http://www.ahrq.gov/clinic/epcsums/o3cansum.htm 

weedgirl -- I'm neither a scientist nor an endocrinologist so I don't claim to know very much about estrogens!  But what I did learn is that we gals have 3 different estrogens with estradiol being the dangerous one.

Many plants contain phytoestrogens.  I have not read any studies that claim these phytoestrogens are estradiol.  If anyone else has, please advise!  Like you, I cannot find any studies which demonstrate flaxseed as harmful, other than the dubious phytoestrogen connection.

I take a tbsp of ground flaxseed powder in my morning smoothie (with blueberries, strawberries and banana).  I also take fish oil (900mg) every day because I'm not fond of fish.  Oh yes, and another important antioxidant -- 80% dark chocolate!

FYI re an earlier post:  Dr. Paul Goss moved to Mass General in Boston a few years ago.  His research partner, Dr. Lillian Thompson at Univ. of Toronto, continues to research flax along with colleagues at Duke University.

I think it's all very confusing; I just found this:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2010/jul/01/anti-soya-brigade-ignore-scaremongering

*sigh* 

In the first paragraph of the article cited by beatis, the author shared some questions that I presumed would be addressed further in the article, specifically "can it interfere with the thyroid".  Then it was never mentioned again!  I've been round and round on the soy question, wavering back and forth.  When I learned that soy is a goitrogen (a food that interferes with the thyroid's ability to absorb iodine), that was what finally made me decide to avoid soy whenever possible. I find it very odd that this author would mention thyroid function in the introduction and then fail to address the question later in the article.  

The bigger glaring omission is no mention whatsoever of genetically modified crops!  

As for 80% of the soy production serving as food for livestock, I can at least agree that she seems to have one fact straight in the article.  But the conclusion is wildly different from my own.  Cows eat a LOT.  Historically and naturally, they eat GRASS.  The only reason they're being forced to eat soy and corn is because it's cheaper.  I don't know about Brazil, but in the US, the reason corn and soy are cheap is because they're subsidized.  Farmers are guaranteed to be paid a certain amount when they grow corn and soy.  Now we have so much corn and soy that someone decided it would be a good idea to make the cows eat it.  It shortens their life and they are rushed to the slaughterhouse before their diet makes them so sick that even the profusion of antibiotics won't keep them on their feet.   

I'm with Julia on this one.  I never used to pay extra for grass fed beef or free roaming chicken eggs, but nowadays, I choose differently.  Beatis, if you feel confused by the article that you linked to, that indicates to me that you have lots of room to learn about our food industry.  Read anything by Michael Pollan.  That's a good place to start.  

Yes, the information about soy, flax, phytoestrogens is widely divergent.  I think it's really a shame that it's so difficult to discern the truth.  Major industries of all types are powerfully controlling a lot of the information.  Doctors face dire consequences if they deviate from prescribing standardized protocol treatments.  And then there's genetically modified crops.  egad!  I was given a copy of Jane Plant's book "your life in your hands", and just glancing through I can see she advocates using soy. 

I've wavered many times on soy. Right now I avoid soy whenever possible.  I do like flaxseed though.  Getting back somewhat to the topic of this thread, I started eating flaxseed with yogurt for breakfast in May 06, long before I'd ever heard of budwig.  I learned about it from Northrup's Women's Bodies Women's Wisdom.  I really liked it and stuck with it.  Eventually, I had a cholesterol test after about 18 months of eating flaxseed and yogurt for breakfast nearly every day.  It was at the same too-high level of 232 that I had prior to bc dx.  so disappointed!  

Nowadays what I mix with my yogurt is a mix of flaxseeds, sunflower seeds and almonds (ratio 3:2:1).  I like it and found the recommendation in Dr Cabot's Liver Cleansing Diet.  

Definitely raw.  I just realized I left out the part about grinding.  I bought a coffee grinder a long time ago just for the flaxseeds.  It works on the other seeds also.  Be sure to refrigerate after grinding. 

Jane -- Just an FYI -- you must eat ground flaxseed, because the grinding process releases the lignans.  Eating whole seeds just means those seeds are taking the trip  through your digestive system and straight out the other end!!!

I purchase ground flaxseed powder (made by a company in British Columbia) and keep it refrigerated.  On the rare occasion I bake something (oatmeal cookies) I replace about 1/4 whole wheat flour with the flaxseed powder.  It's the same texture as flour, so you could use it in all kinds of baking.

And probably the best way to stay away from soy (if that's what you want to do) is to only shop the outer aisles of your grocery store.

Happy Independence Day to all my pals across the border!!

Another note regarding flax seeds. they MUST be eaten withing 15 minutes of grindig because they go rancid after 15-20 minutes. And you should never roast them, Heating them causes them to become toxic. I keep my seeds in the freezer, take them out, grind them, add to my FOCC mixture and consume immediately...

All this information is available on the flaxoil2 yahoo group.

Yes there is evidence as documented by Dr. Budwig in her numerous books. She was a scientist that  was nominated for the Nobel Prize 6 times. Her work is very well documented. If this isn't good enough then you should read the testimonials of people that have been healed by this amazing protocol. Go to flaxoil2 in the yahoo groups and read the testimonials.

To say there is no proof that this protocol works is ignorant and may be keeping some people from looking into this further.

Lisa,

Thank you so much for the update on your Mom. It's so great to hear another success story from the Budwig protocol followers. I'll review your previous posts for more details. Say hello to your Mom for me and tell her we're all rooting for her!

And kudos to you for being such a great daughter.

Blessings,

Jane