A B-day vent

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Today I am 49. Bah Humbug.  I want to vent but when I think about venting, I feel so guilty.  My diagnosis is nothing compared to so many others, I have three of the best kids in the world and a sweet stepdaughter and an awesome mother-in-law, I am employed when so many are not, my active treatment is really over ---thats a LOT in my life to be happy and grateful for. 

But despite several months of Celexa and therapy, today I can't see the good stuff:  this last year with my diagnois and stupid treatment has been awful, I thought my work was being so wonderfully supportive but when I got my annual review I got nailed on my lack of productivity during radiation and treatment, my disfunctional hoarding mother is not speaking to me, my stay home husband is suffering from depression [THERE!  I said it!] so that if something needs to be done in the house, it simply won't happen whether its dishes or laundry or scheduling the kids for playdates/dentist apps, mowing the lawn, you name it.  And his depression part has been here for years and is, I must note, unrelated to my breast cancer unless it worsened when he contemplated what he would have to do to raise 3 kids without me.  I honestly think the problem with my husband is that he would rather not be married. 

There.  I said that too.  When  we scheduled this past weekend, it was supposed to be a family get away to celebrate my birthday and the end of summer.   We only have a 5 person car and with visiting girl, thats 6 people.  I was going crazy trying to figure out logistics and it finally struck me that maybe this should be his job if he cared.  So I suggested that all the monsters [including stepdaughter] and I hit the beach and he stay home and take time to himself since he is always kvetching about the demands made on him and how he never gets down time or alone time.  So thats what we did--left Sunday, returned late Wednesday.   When we came back, I asked if he felt better and the answer was no but thanks for asking.  Okay then.  This morning he did our typical family birthday thing but it felt prefunctory like it was because of the kids--oh I got a card and he ordered something for me off I-Tunes but no birthday kiss or hug, not even when he gave me a ride to the train. No one asked me where I wanted to go for my birthday dinner and naturally for the 3d year in a row, he didn't bother to order me a cake.  Its not that I like cake so much but what does it say to the monsters?  And I'm sorry but all of that hurt.  Its my birthday, I survived stupid breast cancer, why should I have to beg for a birthday kiss?  Why should I have to order my own birthday cake/

If your husband doesn't want any physical or emotional contact with you, what does that tell you?  We were late coming home from the beach last night and I texted him a silly text saying we were having dinner and a beer and that our oldest boy [not yet 13] would be driving home.  The reply:  "sounds good."  Thats it.  Having had no contact with any of his kids for 4 days and yet couldn't be bothered to say drive safe, have fun, missed you, hugs to kids, nothing.  When we got home, still nothing at least towards me.  Honestly, its just too painful to have to always ask for a hug or something.  We have new cell phones which I really really really really didn't want because I know that if I call him, I am always interupting and if I txt him he ignores it.  My son says that husband says he hates it when I text him.  

I did learn that over the weekend, my husband tried a new meditation group, one that is really small and all adult and he really really liked it.  This is after he had us join a sangha with a family program, the THIRD family sangha--3 different traditions--that we have tried in 3 years.  I asked if he wasn't going to continue where we just became members and was told "well the family part," and when he said it, it hit me:

The problem hasn't been the sangha or the tradition. 

The problem has been me and the monsters simply being at the service and that will remain the problem. 

The problem is that he really doesn't know if he wants to be here at all.

I am already in therapy---started in February--and now he says he is willing to go to couples therapy [because see, there is nothing wrong with him but there is a lot wrong with me that needs to be fixed....] but of course, this is one more thing that I have to set up and arrange.  I can't even keep all the bills paid on time.

Next month is my 10th wedding anniversary.  La-Di-Dah.  I married him because I loved him and because my friends said when someone loves you as much he seemed to love me, you should marry them, even if they haven't finished college, even if they have a sketchy work history and are divorced with a child, even if they have less education than you and will never make as money.  Now I feel like the reason he married me not to mention the reason he stays married to me is that he can't afford our lifestyle on his own.  And that really sucks.  

I do have the worlds very best kids, I have a great mother in law and a really sweet stepdaughter and my active treatment is over . . . .okay vent over.  Back to the real world.  thanks for listening.

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  • flash
    flash Member Posts: 1,685
    edited September 2010

    (((((((((((((((((((((((momma)))))))))))))))))))))))  A huge Happy birthday to you.

    any chance that some of his "not caring" is a protective mechanism? 

    I hope things get better. 

  • blondedoris
    blondedoris Member Posts: 197
    edited September 2010

    Oh hun - that's awful. I can't really offer any advice but ((hugs)). You've been through so much already and deserve much better than this.
    Happy Birthday anyway - and here's to many more
    x

  • 3monstmama
    3monstmama Member Posts: 1,447
    edited September 2010

    Thanks for the good wishes.  I would think that it was all a protective mechanism but he was like this before.  He didn't remember the birthday last year either.

    an update:  feeling a bit better right now though that may have been the 1 1/2 hours at therapy knitting followed by the hour at the therapist's where it was agreed that whatever the outcome, I need to go through with making the appointment with the marriage counselor. . . . the family did go out to dinner for birthday and my oldest made me a cake [with his big sister, my stepdaughter's help] and the younger two made cards which were very sweet. but DH barely spoke to me during dinner and still hasn't laid a hand--or a lip-- on me.......................for now I am putting it out of my head and planning a 36 hour multi-generational "girls only" road trip with my daughter [10.5], step daughter [26] and mother in law [65].  It should be fun, right?

    I have scheduled my six month post surgical follow up---I'm only a month late. . . Now to schedule the first post surgery mammogram......

  • survivormom09
    survivormom09 Member Posts: 15
    edited September 2010

    Thank you for sharing all of that.  I really needed to hear that I am not the only one in the world in the same place as you.  I, too, am finished with treatment.  The only decision ahead of me is to ever get a new nipple.  PS says it is too risky right now.  My skin looks good, better than most he sees but we should not do a new nipple or tattooing at this point.  When I explain all of this to DH and the risk I am at for infection he just does not get it.  He does not understand how upset, frustrated, angry, whatever I am at this cancer.

    My DH is similar to you.  I cant remember the last time we spent any quality time together or had any physical interaction of any sort.  We had a huge blow up and missed out on a party last Saturday.  I know he really did not want to go because he does not want to socialize with the husbands of my friends.  I told him I want to be a turtle and stay in my shell.  I am tired of going out of the house (my shell) and spending time with friends, having a great time and coming home to him, Mr. Negative.  So, I am doing my best to cut myself off from my friends (have not talked to or been on FB for a week now) so that I can just be the wife/mom I am supposed to be and try to keep him happy. 

     I have two girls, 3 & 5.  We just rid ourselves of all of the baby stuff and my oldest started Kindergarten this week.  I know that is part of my problem.  I miss babies.  And I am pissed off that the BC stole any chance of me having more. 

    I have been more depressed than ever this last week and dont know what to do.  It takes all of my energy to keep up with day to day life.  I dont know how to work myself out of it.  I dont know if I want to work myself out of it. 

    We are headed to Coronado (about 1.5 hours south) for a family getaway with my in laws.  We are supposed to be celebrating my birthday and my mother in laws.  I know he has done nothing, as usual, for my birthday.  I agreee, it is crazy to have to do all of your own stuff for your birthday.  At this point, shouldn't we be celebrated for every holiday??

    Thanks for listening/reading.  I was looking for just the perfect place to rant and rave.  I keep thinking to myself I know that God has a plan for me.  I hope he clues me in soon because I am tired.

    Happy Labor Day Weekend, End of Summer, Birthday to all. 

  • lovemyfamilysomuch
    lovemyfamilysomuch Member Posts: 1,585
    edited September 2010

    Oh sweet sisters, I hear you!  Rant away, that is what we are here for.  We have all been through so much.  I appreciate your honesty. it is so sometimes to see things for what they really are. ( I speak from personal experience). Anyway, sending lots of love and support and a reminder to take care of yourselves and your little ones, the husbands can take care of themselves for a while, or better yet, take care of you!! xo

  • lovemyfamilysomuch
    lovemyfamilysomuch Member Posts: 1,585
    edited September 2010

    Oh sweet sisters, I hear you!  Rant away, that is what we are here for.  We have all been through so much.  I appreciate your honesty. it is so sometimes to see things for what they really are. ( I speak from personal experience). Anyway, sending lots of love and support and a reminder to take care of yourselves and your little ones, the husbands can take care of themselves for a while, or better yet, take care of you!! xo

  • 3monstmama
    3monstmama Member Posts: 1,447
    edited September 2010

    hi All,

    Survivormom09, rant away I hear you.  I have to play cheerleader at home and deal with work [which is a WHOLE 'NOTHER KETTLE OF KVETCH!] and play cheerleader for myself.  Me, I am sick of being the cheering section of my own life game---isn't my family supposed to be encouraging ME?  After all, I am the one with the stupidbreastcancer.

    At therapy yesterday, I talked to my therapist about how it seems like people were supportive of me the first couple weeks but then they just want it to be over and not to think of it and surely I must be fine now, right, no more active treatment, back to life as normal, right?  She said it was true that people do tend to act that way with cancer patients of all kinds because its scary to think of the random nature of cancer.  So now I know my friends and co-workers are normal in their lack of support Frown.....

    I think if your friends make you happy and feel good, then take the time to be with them and let husband sort himself out.  In my case, I suppose part of the problem is that I don't have that many friends where we live now.  We moved about 3 years back and most of whom I know are people from work.  I have limited "free" time and tend to spend it with my kids. 

    Right now I am getting excited about my little road trip with my MIL and the girls.  I am hoping that if I am not around, my sons will either have fun with each other or with their dad.  If all they do is watch TV, it won't kill them.... probably, right?  ; )

  • sespebadger
    sespebadger Member Posts: 249
    edited September 2010

    Hi 3monstmama and survivormom09,

    You've brought up a subject that is hard to write about: sometimes our DHs are not there for us and it is very, very hard to take. We want to love, and we want to be loved in return. And when you're getting little in return, it is very painful and frustrating. I've been married 28 years (I'm 49) and I have to say, the 28th year has been the hardest. My cancer diagnosis brought into focus some issues I had been ignoring or not really acknowledging before. I suddenly really needed him to be there for me and I came to realize that his heavy drinking made him unable to be there for me or for our 15 year old daughter in the evenings once he started drinking. We struggled mightily with this. If you have ever known a drinker, you will know that they initially don't see or believe that their drinking is a problem. Luckily he wasn't too far gone and agreed to go for counseling. With time, couseling for him, and after two ugly drinking relapses, he saw that he had to quit drinking in order to be a good husband and a good dad. I still worry, of course. But it is finally getting better. I do my best to be a loving, supportive wife, but I am always watching to see that he does his part as well. Marriages have to be a two-way street, in my opinion. Both partners need to give their best.

    I hope each of you can find friends or family or perhaps a counselor to help you through this. I admitted what was going on to a few friends and my sister. My brothers also heard about one of the drinking episodes. They were shocked. I kept it from my mother as she is old. It was hard to talk about. I felt like I was being disloyal, but it was the truth. I found that others also struggled with these issues and I got support and some good advice. 

    Again, I believe we need to love and be loved. And you both deserve love (and support) from your husbands. Especially as you are going through awful breast cancer.

    My best to you both, and happy birthday 3monstmama.

       

  • justjudie
    justjudie Member Posts: 3,397
    edited September 2010

     First of all....I wish you a very Happy Birthday.  You deserve that and so much more than you are getting, Honey.  These things are always so complicated.  But I can tell you that you are getting the short end of the stick by far.  Maybe he ought to stop focusing on himself and realize how lucky he is to have a strong woman like you by his side. He needs a kick in the ass if you ask me. Sorry to be so blunt.

    I wish you the best.  Happy Birthday, and have a HEALTHY happy coming year.

    Judie

    Orig. Diag: 12/2000:  IDC  9 out of 18 nodes positive

    Mets Diag: 04/2010: Scalp, Bones & Liver 

  • lovemyfamilysomuch
    lovemyfamilysomuch Member Posts: 1,585
    edited September 2010

    Dear 3monstamama,

    Do you want me top kick his ass for you?  :)

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