August 2010 Mastectomy
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Winterstorm - sooooo happy to hear you made it to dinner with your friends the day after surgery! All that worry behind you! Your attitude the night before I'm sure helped greatly in your speedy recovery so far. I agree with brokendreams, get enough pillows so you can sit halfway up in bed to sleep. I have a recliner, but that first week was hard to get in and out, too, and with someone needing to push the lever was a bit of a snag.
On the lymph node issue, my surgeons told me they'd take the sentinel and another one or two, and if they looked perfectly healthy, they wouldn't get an immediate test or take any more. But my path report was available on the nodes 3 days later. I'd push 'em to get it done asap.
brokendreams - you even put a smiley face on the end of your post! I truly hope it's a benign liver tumor! Enjoy your beach office - It has done me a world of good to be back at work and not be a full time patient.
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Quick update.. I got my oncotype dx.. score is 25. I start chemo in two weeks... I'm taking "TC" = taxoteer and cytoxan. Whatever that is.
Back to the researching, but not now. I have open house at my daughters school.
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Hi ladies, I have "more" I'd like to add to this thread (how do you all keep up?!) but right now just this: The way it was explained to me, the SLN check during surgery (lump or mast) is a quick-lab-check that's only somewhat accurate. They don't want to "take forever" while you are laying there under anesthesia on the table in the OR, so they do only this cruder quick lab test. If it comes back positive, more nodes are taken out before you are sewn back together. If it comes back negative, no more nodes are taken, but the SLN sample(s) then undergoes more testing that is more thorough; I forget how long this took for me but < 7 days. If still "negative" after the more thorough testing, great---it's officially "node negative." If negative during surgery but positive in the more thorough tests (after surgery), you'll probably have another surgery (and/or rads??) to get to more of the cancer out. I didn't understand this at first because it's "so much information" when they first explain stuff. (Either that or they didn't really explain it then! ...but they tell me it's me, my confusion, imagine that!
) Anyway, you can get your surgery path reports and read them, and all of this should be spelled out (including the names of the tests) --- if it's the same process for you as it was for me. I think it all makes sense, given the "tools" they have to work with...
I was lucky and had "node negative" all the way, so I don't really know what happens in the other outcomes (other things on my plate to research!)...
Rest assured that even though the docs are "practicing," sometimes we really do need to be "patient"! IMO. (And don't mistake this to mean that I think we should just blindly roll with the punches---no way!!! We need to be our own best advocates!) I just want to restore some "confidence" about these steps in our care...
Very best wishes to all, keep on keeping on!!
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RobinLM Thinking of you and waiting to hear the news. Now you are on the DONE side. YAY.
Healing Hugs
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WinterStorm, I KNOW!!!!! Horrible, ain't it?......my chest looked pretty dang scary too, right afterward. Trust me: It gets better. Takes a while, but it gets LOTS better. I didn't have the trouble you're having getting up and down, but then, I had one GOOD side to pull with. Good for you for getting out and about ...best thing for you.
The belated SN results...I didn't have to deal with that, thank God, but I guess it isn't uncommon.
Hi, leelee32. Congratulations on getting through Hodgkins. You'll do it with this, too.
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We've been through alot, haven't we...We will cross any hurdle and thrive!
Well I'm 17 days out from BMX w/TE surgery. Physically I'm moving forward as expected. Mentally I'm having a few challenges.
I ended the narcotics three days ago, now I have to deal with some emotions that are bubbling up. I really freaked myself out yesterday while getting ready to shower. To make a long story short, I had sounds coming out of me that I have never, ever heard before. Took a bit to pull myself together. It was really the first time, I've been left alone since my surgery, and I guess I just needed to let er rip!
Today is a better day, with new resolve to take charge of my emotional recovery. My personal methods are through exercise, healthy eating, and nature.
So just a word of warning ladies, don't be blindsided when you stop the narcotics. It can pack an emotiona wallop.
Take care sisters.
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Hi Everyone,
Welcome to the other side RobinLM and Mindy and happy healing! Glad to write DONE next to your names. Hoping that Lago and Sunny will be joining us soon.
Amy - about your fill - I don't think the port was missed (they use a magnet to find it) but that your fill was too soon and your skin couldn't handle it yet. ( My PS waits 2 weeks after the drains come out to do a fill) My sister last year had quite a bit of trouble with hers too and was very uncomfortable each time. I hope you won't be one of those people.
Mindy - i didn't use a recliner either - I thought it was actually more uncomfortable. I used a bedrest ad about 4 pillows. I did have trouble getting out of bed for a few weeks but I put a stool by the bed so when I swung my legs over the bed I didn't have as far to go. This worked really well.
Broken - Interesting to hear your story. It is essentially the same thing with me. There is a 4mm nodule on my lung that we are keeping an eye on (much like the one on your liver). However I am only 20% ER so am not sure the Arimidex will have that much effect on it. Keep us posted.
Took off work today- One of those bad days that I just couldn't handle. I need to at least go to the drug store to pick up my Arimidex and Fosomax scripts. Let all the SE's begin! Bring it on! I can hardly wait!
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Hello August Sisters!
This is the second day at work for me. Yesterday, I did fine till 4 rolled around then I moaned in the car all the way home. Each bump EXCRUTIATING!! Fell into a dead sleep by 5 pm and woke to eat at 9 pm. Back to bed with my good friend Oxycodone. (Thank God I saved a few for the hard times) This too shall pass..but when??
Thanks everyone for sharing the OncoDx outcomes. BS has ordered mine but no news yet. My tumor was 2.5 cm, so the PA tells me I am a candidate for chemo...as if it were a beauty pagent or something..still praying for that low number.
Mindy..take it really easy..I slept on my lazy boy recliner for a week. My DH put a fuzzy blanket over it and a sheet over that. Soooo comfy. Still my favorite place to snooze. My bed.. not so comfortable no matter how many pillows. I may go back to the lazy boy. Hang in there, your swelling and brusing will shrink and the scars won't be so bad. I don't cry anymore when I look at my chest now. I am starting to get used to myself. More like a badge of courage than a horrible scar.
Smurfie, I am sorry you are having those problems. I am praying for you to heal fast. Take that multi vitamin with zinc and C. Brokendreams I just know that pesky tumor is benign. My team said it is not uncommon for the CT,MRI and other tests to come up with all types of blips as we have been around a while and to not worry. I have a "nodule" on my thyroid that came up. They will prob work that up at a later date. Hold tight and try not to let your imagination run rampant. Remember when the going gets tough, the tough have a really good cry and a nice margarita.
ChattaChick..Same bruise on the L side. They use a "stud finder" to locate the metal backing of the expander, so normally they will not miss the port. A small bruise is normal. You should feel a bit stiff, and if you do, that means the saline went in just fine. Still the bruise was a bit scary. Carole, I am hoping your pain has subsided a bit and that you are healing nicely.
Well ladies, I should be working, so I had better sign off for now. I am sending the good karma to you all. OBTW...Welcome Leelee.
Paula
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Ladies, I am SOOO fortunate to have found such an amazing group of wonderful women!
My two cents on SNB, my BS told me that they can get immediate results from a "frozen" section during surgery, and she would tell my family the results as soon as they were done. However, the results given during surgery are not as accurate as the final path report. So this is why sometimes, surgeons wait for the final path rather than relying on the frozen sections.
Nancy - I am thinking of you and know that you will make the right decision re further treatment. You are one tough lady in my book!
Brokendreams - Praying hard for you as well. Stay positive sister.
Lovenature: I think we may have a very similar diagnosis. I am going to send you a PM. Your reaction yesterday is totally normal. I howled at home for hours on Monday. Felt so much better afterwards.
I am FINALLY off meds except ibuprofen and benadryl (for my antibiotic rash). Yesterday and today were GOOD days. I even let my hubby feel the TE (for the first time, it was bearable), not for "fun" but to show him that my swelling has finally gone down so I can feel the actual edges of the expander. I am certain this means I can get my first fill next Wed. Shopped a little today for some shirts that I can wear without looking too lumpy (I feel "lumpy" now that all the swelling is gone). Had a gynocology appt with my favorite OB/GYN this morning Now I am going to take a nap. I have my first physical therapy appt later today. Life is good TODAY. I take is one day at a time. I may be screaming/crying again tomorrow but I will worry about that then (I love that Scarlett O'Hara!).
Hugs to all!
Smerfie
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Yes Smurfie, we do have near identical, if not identical diagnosis. I replied to your PM, I don't know if I did it right though. I hope you received it, it's my first PM.
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Hello ladies.
Today is the first day without pain meds but am thinking that with all the activity today I will need some later. I am now able to lift up with the help of my right arm without pain. I use my left foot/ankle to grab the bed frame and then use my right arm at the same time.
After sleeping what seems nonstop since Tuesday, I got up today and went to see my surgeon. He took the gauze off from where the drains attach to my body (4 drains total) so he said I won't need it (or to replace it) anymore. He said it all looked "good" (relative terms I am sure, *sigh*). Finally, he has approved a nurse to check in on me once a day to be sure everything is okay. I live alone so dealing with all of this by myself has left my peace of mind at the hospital with the wonderful nurses there. And to think that after all the requests I made BEFORE surgery about home nursing, he made me make a special trip to his office to talk about it. Darts anyone??
So I went to the doc, and here at the retirement community where I live 1) I went to lunch in the dining room since I was dressed, 2) I got my monthly statement worked out and paid what I owed, and 3) I got my hair washed. All in a day's work I think. Now I am beat.
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Just got home and doing a quick check in. I doing well. Believe it or not I have yet to take any a pain killers. 6 hour surgery that finished around 9-10pm on Tuesday. Pretty nauseous for a bit the first day. Today I felt so great I couldn't wait to get home. I even dressed myself.
BTW my sentinel nodes on the right were negative. Yay! Have to wait for the path report on everything else (including right & left breast, left nodes level I). Hope my other sistas are doing as well as me.
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I'm getting caught up here...
Wow lago, you sound wonderful! Glad to hear you're not in much pain. Sounds like you had a 2-night stay. Good for you. And congrats on the negative nodes.
Anne, you had a compression bandage after surgery? I didn't have any kind of bandage on and it concerned me so asked my nurse. They got me an ace bandage I wore overnight but then the doctor said I didn't need it, that he wanted the air to get to it for healing. Sorry to hear you are needing chemo. Several of you, in fact, are needing chemo which indeed surprises me. Wishing you the best.
brokendreams, I am praying your cancer hasn't mets to the liver. I know just how frightened you must be feeling. To go through the trouble of surgery is bad enough, ain't it?? But good for you that you have an office on the beach! I try and think in terms of what brings me comfort and peace. I wish you tons of that right now.
My surgeon rx me vicodin and it did the trick. But now for the most part I don't need anything. What was rx'd for you and were you happy with it?
With regards to the node check discussion, just the idea of having more surgery really doesn't sit too well with me. Here's hoping none of us will need more surgery anytime soon!
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(((Brokendreams))), no words, really, but I know what you mean about work taking your mind off cancer. That's what kept me going all spring, and I'm kind of anxious for classes to start again (tomorrow). Sending you good, benign liver vibes.
Ladies, I'm three weeks post surgery, with a expansion last week, and still have a fair bit of pain, enough so that I can tell almost to the minute when the ibuprofin wears off. My PT says smaller women often have more pain w/ the TE, but is it going to be like this the whole time until the permanent implants go in???
Winterstorm, breathe easy regarding how your chest looks. I was (ok, AM) rather freaked out too, but my PT (who specializes in post-mastectomy) says I look "normal" for this point and to give it time.
Welcome, Lee!
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Hello all August Heroes! It is great to be able share all of our experiences with eachother and to be able think and pray for eachother. Yesterday I went to the hospital for an outpatient surgery to clear up some dead skin that did not respond well to the mastectomy. The goal was to do some more skin graftng after removing the scabs covering the dead skin. Just before surgery my PS said that he had really been going over my case and that he would go in and check things out concerning the health of my tissue. If the tissue did not seem healthy enough he would not do the grafting b/c it probably would not take. If this was the case I would come into his office today and he would clean up more tissue, change the dressing and then maybe would start me on something called a VAC. The VAC is a device that helps circulate blood to areas that do not heal well and need some help getting blood pumped into the area so the tissue can get healthy. But as he was changing my dressing and cleaning some more tissue, he decided to wait on the VAC. So meanwhile I will have a visiting nurse come to the house and clean and change my dressing. Then on Tuesday I will go into the office and they will place a rubber moist type of dressing over the areas and insert drains and attach it to this vacuum like device which would pump the blood to the "dead" area. Every 2 or 3 days I would go to the office, and they would drain the pump, change the dressings. If it works well I would have this only for a week, if not it would be for 2 weeks. The little device fits into a pocket or purse and shouldn't hurt or stop me from doing regular routine. What is my regular routine at this time? Sitting in my recliner, walking around my house, eating at the table, and taking a nap upstairs in bed, so shouldn't be a problem with my routine
. So its been 3 weeks since surgery. I do feel stronger and can move my core body better. My lower ab scar from one hip to the other is doing well, and there is no sign of infection which I am very happly about. I know this all seems quite overwhelming, but my plastic surgeon named Dr. Dennis Hammond located in Grand Rapids, Mi is one of the best in the nation and I trust him completely. He just really wants my body to heal well, and for me to be pleased with the results. He has a team of absolutely great people at his side. So this is a journey but I believe the end result will be great. I will have no new breast cancer suddenly appearing due to my BRCA2 status and my stomach will be flat-which has never been the case, and I can go on enjoying making many memories with my great and super supportive family.
Nancy, I too want to thank you for starting this post and keeping it going. I hope we can all continue to post as new results come in and we can "party" together on all our news. I pray for patience for us all as we continue to get used to this new normal we are living.
"Be strong and courageous"
Carla
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Bright Eyes
I am feeling your pain. I am 3 weeks post BMX with expanders. Last week I was pretty much off pain meds and then a few days ago it started again. I am in so much pain the Vicodin barely takes care of it. I am going to see my PS tomorrow morning. My left breast ( the side with the tumor and where the nodes were taken) has gotten bigger than the other side. I don't think there is infection but it seems much fuller than the right one and the one that hurts so bad..
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Yea Robin - congrats on being on the other side - now it's time to heal. Sending love, hugs, healing vibes your way - hang in there, moment by moment, day by day, it will get better!
xoxo Melissa
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Dearest August on-the-other-siders!
I'm home from hospital! Sorry i didn't have access to computer. All went well as far as these things go---SNB was good news. See medical ONC in a week. Actually, I'm feeling great just to have this stage DONE!!! More later, my DH is telecommuting and will on the computer 8 to 5 today. Thinking of you all Robin and Lago and Winterstorm--we complete the August group YEA for all of us--we are strong and we can also cry sometimes, but we'll make it through one step, one day, one year, decades!! Hugs
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Hi Sunny! Glad to hear the good news on your SNB. What a wonderful attitude you have. You will no doubt heal very well.
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Robin, Lago.Winterstorm,and Sunny glad to hear you are all doing ok nice to be on the other side I got my results today. ILC 22mm, LCIS 68mm, I am classed as grade 2. I have to have radiotherapy and am starting on Arimidiex, no nodes involved so that was good but I have to have the rad because the mx margins were close, so feeling good at the moment, as some one else said we are all brave ladies,
Celia.x
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Robin, Lago, Winter and Sunny... Welcome to the Other Side ladies!!!
Don't rush into anything, Rest Rest Rest, and most importantly.. LISTEN to your body!!!
(((((HUGS)))))
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Hi everyone, I just found this thread today, I sure wish I had seen it a month ago. I had a left mastectomy on 8/2 and this thread would have been really helpful. I am scheduled to start chemo some time this month and have joined the Sept chemo thread. Being 4 weeks post-op I am doing well and started back to work part time last week, I plan to work until chemo starts and then see how I feel. I hope everyone is doing well!!
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Welcome Dawney! I am over on the September Chemo thread too. So is Tara, and a few others I think.
Welcome to the Club no one wants to be in!
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Welcome Dawney..Sorry to have to meet this way, but I am happy you found us. Robin, Lago, Winter and Sunny, I hope recovery is smooth and fast for you all. Take it really easy. Please do not lift or do any housework. Relax and be good to yourselves. Keep us posted on your recovery.
Paula
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I'm not yet 4 weeks post BMX with no recon. I worked full time this past week save for taking Friday afternoon off for chemo - which was very uneventful, and my fingers are crossed.
I'm amazed at how much movement I have in my arms. They only removed 2 nodes for me in the rt side, but I am so happy I can do most non-heavy things again - cleaning toilet, brushing the dog. My chest tissue tells me quickly to stop with a twinge or two.
I'm still not happy with the way I look - need to shop for better tees to go under clothes, will look into v-neck men's t-shirts, and maybe cut off the sleeves. I was wearing a compression tube top most of the week due to sloshy fluid, but have to say, I went to an accupuncturist last Saturday and she said she'd take care of it. She did. No tube top yesterday.
Welcome everyone to the other side. Cheers.
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I'm glad most everybody's dealing pretty well!
I saw my BS two days ago. He said that I probably did cause the seroma my own self, by lifting those boxes first day back at work. Just as I thought, the layers were beginning to attach and I detached 'em. But my seroma is not a big one, he said, and I said it's getting better, and he said, "Your body does a great job of absorbing that." The "site" is much, much less swollen and misshapen looking, and I have a gigundus scab....apparently some people get scabs and some don't. I don't need to do anything except wait for it to fall off, which it is beginning to do in tiny pieces.
I have an appt with the head of oncology to discuss anti-estrogen medication and whether or not I want/need it. The tumor was estrogen positive which means that I might have a recurrence in the other breast. It could be DCIS, which is what I just got rid of, or it could be anything else. If it would definitely be DCIS, I told the doctor, I'd take my chances. But if it could be something worse.....well, I'll find out more about the medication and side effects and the chances of my personally needing it. Apparently the oncologist can work up numbers to figure out my chances of recurrence.
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Hello it is almost a month now since my bilateral mastectomy surgery and I am doing very well. I went to zumba class today and was able to keep up pretty well. Very tired but feels good. The tingles and burning gets less when i exercise. Just taking advil during the day and the pain meds at night.
My SNB was negative and they told me when I woke up. At my 10 day they said the pathology still showed negative, I had no idea it might not be. I am glad because I would have been worried.
I did not have any swelling from the beginning and my scars are very thin. I have not gotten any reconstruction so I have these flat saggy looking little skin boobs lol.
Got my BRACA test which was negative. Waiting for my oncotype appointment on friday.
Send me some low score vibes! low oncotype low oncotype low oncotype low oncotype low oncotype low oncotype low oncotype low oncotype low oncotype
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Wishing you low oncotype score Carrol!! Glad to hear you are doing so well.
I didn't know that, about being ER+ having a higher recurrence. My Onco told me thatER+/PR+ and HER2- was a good thing, that it was treatable with medication. Marly I certainly hope it doesn't come back! One day at a time, though.
Things are looking up, huh Tara? But I know what you mean about how it looks. My chest looks so mutilated. I wish I knew more but won't until next Thursday when I see my surgeon. *sigh*
How long before y'all were able to drive? And when you began driving, did you use the shoulder strap? I'm thinking pillow there.
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Winterstorm...I started driving during the third week. Short errands at first with a small pillow where my seatbelt crosses my chest.
Carrol2..sending you wishes for low oncotype. So impressed you can do zumba class. You go girl
warm welcome to dawney i hope your chemo goes well.
Best wishes that the lung nodule is benign Nancy. Thank you Tara andBrighteyes, work definitely helps get my mind off cancer for awhile. Smurfiep you are right we can worry about it all tomorrow, good old Scarlett O'Harra.
This has been such a wonderful supportive group of women. Many of us are going different ways in treatment and onto different board postings. I hope somehow we can all stay in touch. I am sending warm wishes for continued healing to all of you.
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Check on the ER+ having a higher re-occurrence. I've heard both good and bad being + and - on everything. The oncologists knows best.
Carrol: The initial check on the nodes is negative but they will do more extensive path after surgery just to be sure. Typically from what I hear they usually end up with the same diagnosis but there have been a small percentage that do change. That's why they double check and do a more thorough one after.
I was out today but didn't need any pillow across my chest for the seat belt. I still have no ideas why I'm not feeling the pain. My arms feel some discomfort though.
Zumba in 1 month! Wow I hope they will let me back in the gym in 1 month. Not sure since I have TE. I might have to wait longer. I'm sure it will be low impact stuff. I still want to do some lower body strenght training. My back is starting to get sore from only sleeping/sitting in one position. I stand/walk a lot more that I probably should because of this.
Hang in there August sistas!
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