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agada Member Posts: 452
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  • agada
    agada Member Posts: 452
    edited August 2010

    Hello again,

    After my bilateral mastectomy my periods have slowed down to almost nothing.  I am 50 and could be starting menopause.  Or can the decrease in estrogen from losing breast tissue mess up my periods?  This happended right after the mastectomies. I know this is a stupid question, but I am curious if anyone else experienced this after surgery.  I am not taking any treatments so that could not put me in menopause. Thank - you again for your help.

    Agada 

  • mom3band1g
    mom3band1g Member Posts: 817
    edited August 2010

    I don't think that is a stupid question at all.  I have had migraines with my period and after my mast the migraines stopped.  My period became lighter and not as horrible.  My onc had no explanation.  My fam Dr said our bodies process estrogen through our breasts so without our breasts....could 'shake things up a bit'.  I  had my mast in March and this past cycle I did get the migraine but it was at the end of my period (I always got them the day before I started).  Would love anyone with more info to chime in!  I turned 40 a few weeks after my mast.  No Tamoxifen.

  • debbie6122
    debbie6122 Member Posts: 5,161
    edited August 2010

    Hi agada, no that is not a stupid question at all, hopefully some one will come along who can best answer this for you, i started my menapause in my late 30's but still was having periods, when i was dx with lung cancer and had to have lung surgery i never had another period after that i got different answers from different dr. one said that surgery can have an effect on your body, sounds about right but dont know how true that is, being 50 you may already be going thru it anyway. but they say you are not post menopausal untill you have gone a full year without a period. Also even thou im post men i hadnt had any symtoms untill i had a mysectomy now i get hot flashes, which is a bummer because i thought i was thru with that! but as i said maybe some one knows more about this than i, sorry i couldnt help more- hope you are doing well

    hugs,, debbie

  • leaf
    leaf Member Posts: 8,188
    edited August 2010

    No question is stupid, agada.

    I think there is no way of answering your question definitely.  Since you are at an appropriate age for menopause,  you could be going through menopause or peri-menopause.  Breasts contain fat, and fat can increase estrogen production, so decreased estrogen could contribute.  (I don't know how big this effect would be though.  Maybe others know.)  Stress can influence menstrual periods, at least for some women, and I bet the mastectomy was emotionally stressful.

    You could also have all of the above together contributing, as well as factors I don't know.

    If they took hormone levels, they may be able to say if you are approaching menopause, but that still wouldn't tell you the cause.

  • mom3band1g
    mom3band1g Member Posts: 817
    edited August 2010

    I don't think that is a stupid question at all.  I have had migraines with my period and after my mast the migraines stopped.  My period became lighter and not as horrible.  My onc had no explanation.  My fam Dr said our bodies process estrogen through our breasts so without our breasts....could 'shake things up a bit'.  I  had my mast in March and this past cycle I did get the migraine but it was at the end of my period (I always got them the day before I started).  Would love anyone with more info to chime in!  I turned 40 a few weeks after my mast.  No Tamoxifen.

  • jpmercy
    jpmercy Member Posts: 189
    edited August 2010

    this post is scaring me! i am scheduled for a bmx next week due to DCIS high grade and fstrong amily history and i jsut turned 30 the recurrance rate for me is something that i am not comfortable with but now im scared i will not be able to have more chidlren all my doctors reassured me this would not cause any problems! anyone out there have a BMX and more chidlren aferwards so hope will make me less anxious about my surgery!

  • iHEARTu
    iHEARTu Member Posts: 213
    edited August 2010

    Hello Agada

    No question is ever a stupid questionLaughing
    I skipped a period after my BMX and I've never skipped one except when I was pregnant. Dr. said it was because my body was under so much stress after surgery. Oh, and I'm 41. Good luck!

    catherine

  • Alicia70598
    Alicia70598 Member Posts: 191
    edited August 2010

    Jennifer,

    Christina Applegate is now pregnant, and she had a bmx in July 2008. Because of that, there are lots of news stories out there talking about women who got pregnant safely after breast cancer treatment. Often they recommend waiting five years after the completion of chemo, but not always that long. (Christina didn't have chemo.)

    http://abcnews.go.com/Health/BreastCancerCenter/christina-applegate-pregnant-breast-cancer-treatment/story?id=11260460

  • CTMOM1234
    CTMOM1234 Member Posts: 633
    edited August 2010

    I agree with what Catherine wrote two posts up. Stress can really play havoc! I didn't have a mastectomy, I had a lumpectomy and then rads (no chemo, no tamoxifen), and only now that I'm a few months out from treatment is my cycle getting back to normal. I'm 45 and not yet menopausal.

    edited to add: P.S. By the way, that was not at all a stupid question.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited August 2010

    agada- I am also 50.  Not sure when you had your BMX but mine was in March and my periods are just now returning to normal so if you are having changes they may not be permanent.  

  • CAROLMARIE427
    CAROLMARIE427 Member Posts: 206
    edited August 2010

    JP, just to let you know that I am the opposite.  After my bilaterals, I get my period every 24 days when I used to go 35 days between cycles.  They come heavy for two days and then stop where it used to spread out over a week.  I am 46 so I don't know if it has anything to do with surgey or maybe perimenopause.  I don't think the surgery really has an effect on fertility issues.  You will be fine.  

  • jpmercy
    jpmercy Member Posts: 189
    edited September 2010

    thank you for the reassurance, Carolmarie!

    surgery tomorrow morning :(

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited September 2010

    jpmercy- Good luck with your surgery tomorrow morning.  I had my BMX in March, and though it was a difficult day emotionally, but the physical part was not as bad as I had made it out to be in my mind.  I'm not sure if you are having reconstruction, but if so, just remember that this is just one step in the process.  Either way, just the thought that all of the cancer is out of your body goes a long way in helping you heal- both physically and emotionally.  What helped for me was keeping a picture of my son on my hospital tray to remind me why I had chosen BMX.  I'm sure you chose it for your child, and for your future children, as well.  I don't know of anyone on here who had kids after MX but I do know one who is going to start trying as soon as her reconstruction is done and I'm sure she would love to talk to her.  Her screen name is "hurleygirly".

    If you're doing reconstruction there is a great thread for women who are post MX and pre exchange called "Exchange City".  It is a very active thread with lots of incredible women who will help you in any way they can.  It is full of great info on what to expect as well as amazing emotional support.   Here is the link-

    http://community.breastcancer.org/forum/44/topic/728266?page=567#idx_17006

    Just know we are all here for you tomorrow and in the months to come!  Sending you gentle (((hugs))) tomorrow and good thoughts. 

  • Deirdre1
    Deirdre1 Member Posts: 1,461
    edited September 2010

    jpmercy:  I wish you the best tomorrow with your surgery - may everything go as smooth as silk!!

    At your age you might experience the loss of your period for a few months as Kate mentioned above - because this is a major trauma to the body and the body needs a few months to "get back to normal" albeit a "new normal"..  with me I was just over 50 and perhaps just hitting perimenopause (according to my nurse practioner)..  but unfortunately the surgery was such a shock to my metabolism that I went from peri right into memopause.. but remember I was at the appropriate age for menopause (although if 50 is the new 40 - I guess you could say I was a bit early Smile frankly I think 50 is the new 30!)..  Your body will need all it's resources to help you recover from this and as similara to the time following  a delivery often there will be a "pausing" of the menses as well as the levels of estrogen - but it should go back to normal...  You will probably be back to complaining about your period before too long <JK>..  Good luck and I'll be sending you good thoughts tomorrow!!!  Best, Deirdre

  • jpmercy
    jpmercy Member Posts: 189
    edited September 2010

    thanks so much for the reassurance about post BMX and pregnancy. surgery was friday and it was a very difficult day emotionally but my family, husband, friends. and of course my little baby boy all helped pull me through. right now im just sore but taking my pain meds which are making me nausous. anyone else have this? pain is managable and i feel i can move around and feel good actually but once the pain meds wear off i feel alot of pressure and am very uncomfortable  kate, how long did you wait to chance to tylenol or motrin? i am VERY happy with my reconstruction results, my doctor does not use drains and he put immediate implants in. i just looked at them today and they are the exact same size and placement as my natural breast, i couldnt be more relieved of course i need to wait for my nipples but they look good and i dont have to go for fills or anything else. just want to rest and get well enough to take care of my baby again and get back to work. thanks again for the reassurance ill worry about pregnancy this summer and give my body time to heal!

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited September 2010

    jpmercy- So glad you are doing well.  I, too, had nausea with the pain meds and my BS prescribed a drug called Promethazine which made a huge difference.  I took 25 mg. about a 1/2 hour before taking the pain med.  One thing I would recommend is taking your pain meds as scheduled.  Don't wait until you're in pain as it is much harder to get it under control.  I know a lot of people worry about being on the pain medication for too long but if you're in pain then you need it.  You'll know when you're ready to go off them.  When you're ready it's best to wean off them slowly.  Don't just stop taking them suddenly as this can cause some side effects like high blood pressure.  

    That's wonderful that you were able to have immediate reconstruction!  Glad you are happy with your results! 

  • jpmercy
    jpmercy Member Posts: 189
    edited September 2010

    thanks Kate,

    i actually have an appointment today and the nurse i talked to last night suggested the drug you mentioned for the nausia and we are going to talk about it today at the appointment. i definately have not missed a pain med taking them like clockwork bc i definately need to but if i feel ok at the time of taking them i take just one if its before bed or in the morning i take two bc i seem to need them most then, sore but the end of the day and then in the morning stiff and sore from sleeping. thanks for the reassurance though im just scared to be on them for too long but your right ill know when its time to ween. i just need to emotionally accept that i cant do much for my seven month old right now, i have lots of help but he is teething and i just want to scoop him up and make it all better like any  mommy would, but it hurts and can only hold him on my lap when someone is close by it is so emtionally difficult to accept that this is just temporary and to not let myself feel like a terrible mom since i cant help him. i guess i have to focus on the fact that i made this surgery decision to be SURE i would be here with him for the rest of his life so a few weeks are nothing in camparrison....just need to continue to remind myself of the big picture!

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited September 2010

    Jennifer- I, too, was worried about being on the pain meds too long since I always heard about people getting addicted.  My Mom was the one that reassured me.  She said if you're in pain and taking them it's o.k.  If you're no longer in pain, but still taking them, then you have a problem.  After that I felt better.

    I can see how hard it would be emotionally to feel you're not there for your son but, you're right, you made this difficult decision for him.  It's not any easier as they get older.  I felt so guilty that I wasn't there for my son, too- and he is 13!  I think as Moms we always want to be there for our kids no matter what.  You're doing the right thing, though, to ensure your healing.  I do remember how hard the mornings were after waking up without pain meds in your system but it will get better.  I hope the anti-nausea meds works as well for you as they did for me. 

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