Chemo June 2010

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  • julia2
    julia2 Member Posts: 183
    edited August 2010

    Hi Ladies,

    Bon, how is your mother?  Vicky, hang in there, get some anti depressants if you don't have any.  I highly recommend Citalopram, it works for me and is not addictive.  Chey, another one down, you are going to get through this!

    I had an awesome weekend, went on a trip to Nebraska to a dog agility trial with my dogs and DH.  This cancer has totally derailed my competition schedule this year as I'm too afraid to get on the road alone with a van full of dogs incase some bad SE hits when I'm hundreds of miles from home.  Anyway, I felt it was risky going the weekend after my treatment, but it all worked out ok and I was able to run the dogs, and I didn't get sick.  It felt like I got to do something normal for a change.

    Anyone watching 'The Big C' on HBO?  Hilarious in a very dark way, I certainly feel I can relate to the main character. 

    Julia

  • mitymuffin
    mitymuffin Member Posts: 337
    edited August 2010

    ISHOBIE, my red blood count is staying in the 3.4 range, and I had also wondered about red meat or iron supplements, but got the same answer you did. As I have gone along in treatment, I'm now on Taxol, I've found the fatigue varies from week to week. Some weeks I have energy, and some I'm more tired. I've just had my 6th weekly Taxol, and its been mostly (relatively) easy and most of the time I feel pretty well.

    Workmother, I always ask the nurses for a photocopy of my blood work. If nothing else it gives me something to read during chemo and I google what all the little abreviations mean. 

  • mitymuffin
    mitymuffin Member Posts: 337
    edited August 2010
    Cheyenna, ask the nurses for a photocopy of your blood work, and google up the answers to your questions (of course, always taking google with a grain of salt).  I think the nurses told me that my WBC would have to go below 1 before they would feel I needed a shot to boost it before treatment.
  • VickyThomas
    VickyThomas Member Posts: 54
    edited August 2010

    Hi all, I am at work, so I apologize if I dont' get to adress every one..Two days to Taxol.. DREADING IT..

    @Latte, I truely understand the bladder thing.. seems that I can't hold it after treatment.. It actually became a joke in my house, I can't seem to make it from my bedroom on the first floor two the bathroom on the second floor.. Told my husband that no matter what when we buy I will have to have a master bath.. that is a deal breaker for me..

    @Chey, I am so proud of you.. good job...I knew you could do it.. 

    @Ishobie, I look and ask myself all the time WHAT THE HELL? I have always been able to handle things pretty well and keep a smile so that no one know what is going on.. this time..not the same thing.. I am a outgoing always on the go.. now I am at home so much that even the dog is confused..

    @Bon, glad your mother is doing better and I hope she continues to improve

    @Kitty Kat, call me crazy, but I have had alcohol after treatment sometimes before and I told the onc and he said it was okay.. as long as I wasn't drinking like I was at a party but a glass was fine.

    @JFV, Workmother, glad that you are able to have fun.

    @grneyd500, I am glad that you are not suffering like some of us.. You actually give me hope, that maybe the next one won't be so bad..

  • Latte
    Latte Member Posts: 1,072
    edited August 2010

    ishobie and cheyenna - my onc nurses also won't tell me how low my counts will have to go before tx will be postponed - they tell me there is no point worrying about it because it is not in my control - iron intake won't help in this case. But I still would like to know these things in advance...

    julia2 - i'm so impressed that you got away and are trying to keep up with your "normal" life - i get excited if I go to the corner store :-)

     vickyt - good luck for the next taxol, hope they get better for you

     had a brain ct this morning, got the cd with the pics on it, but can't tell what they mean and the actual written report will only be there in max of 5 days - so hoping for good news.

  • PearlGirl
    PearlGirl Member Posts: 549
    edited August 2010

    Ladies, I hope that today will be pleasantly uneventful for all of you. It hasn't worked out that way for me so far.

    I dragged myself to the hospital at 6:15 this morning to get there for my Mom's physicians rounds.  Finally got to speak face-to-face with both GI and PCP to articulate my concerns about her needs. We have finally established that she is improved but only slightly and the diagnosis is murky at best. They had agreed not to move her to a nursing or rehab facility until her condition improved quite a bit more or they had a more definite plan for treatment BUT just now Mom phoned to say a social worker walked in and told her they are making arrangements to send her to a rehab center. So at the moment I have a sick Mom in a hospital cross town who is in tears and a friend in her way back there to see if she can sort it out. I am still confronted with the nausea and wobbles of my latest chemo 6 days ago and can barely hold it together long enough to type this, so can't manage to get back to the hospital right now.  Cancer is challenging enough and this added worry for my Mom is just the topper. I'm sooooo frustrated. No one seems to know what the other is doing.  Does no one in the medical community listen?  Bon

  • DesignerMom
    DesignerMom Member Posts: 1,464
    edited August 2010

    Bon- Geez!  No, I don't think most of the medical community knows the right from the left hand!  I'm glad you have a friend who can run interference.  Perhaps someone needs to call your mom's doctor to make sure she doesn't get transferred?  I can't imagine they would release her in this condition!  I'm so sorry that you are feeling such severe SE for so long (6 days!).  Are you on the DD schedule?  the ladies on the longer, weekly schedule seem to be not having severe SE.  Just wondering.  Keeping you and mama in my prayers!

    Julia-  You go girl!  Nothing like getting back to something "normal" to feel better!

    Vicky-  You sound a bit stronger.  You made me LOL "even the dog is confused because I'm home so much". Stay strong!

  • PearlGirl
    PearlGirl Member Posts: 549
    edited August 2010

    DesignerMom...I need to borrow your soundproof room...I feel a major primal scream coming on. Anyone want to join me?  One giant primal scream for women everywhere who are trying to keep everything together and functioning, in spite of this cancer dx and the nasty SEs of treatment. I so hope that some day we can meet up for a rally of spirits...and a shout of joy to have survived it all.  I'd love to bring my Mom along.

  • mimi9186
    mimi9186 Member Posts: 127
    edited August 2010

    Hey Ladies, who said if it's not one thing it's another?  I just got discharged from hospital after 3 days.  I was running a fever and my counts were very low.  I got IV antibiotics and morphine for the horrible pain.  I called the Onc and he is away until thanksgiving! Away where?  Anyway, there is another one on call so I shall see her next Tuesday.  This massive Dosetaxol dose every three weeks is literally killing me.  I think this time I will start stating what I will and won't do.  Enough is enough!  I will demand a dosage decrease or even moving to weekly treatments.  Anything but this slow horrible death.

    Bon, I have been and continue to pray for your dear mother.

    Latte, I am glad you are able to laugh already. I too must post a sign at the door saying "Remember your head covering". 

    Vicky, I too say  WHAT THE HELL?  I work in psychiatry and always pride myself on the emotional control I have.  Where did it go?

    Julia 2, good for you.  I can't even get out of bed much less give my dogs the care they need.  I am proud of you for being so active with your pooches.

    Love and Hugs,  Mimi

  • DesignerMom
    DesignerMom Member Posts: 1,464
    edited August 2010

    Bon-  I am counting on that celebration rally.  I am also counting on your mom joining us!  Definitely, any of you can use our sound studio to scream.  Heck, we're smart, we should be able to figure this out to work virtually.  What was that place they went to on Star Trek?  The holo something or other?  Beam me up Scotty, I want a Pina Colada on a beach in Hawaii?  Bon, when you finish screaming, come join me!

    mimi- WTH!  So sorry for your misery.  Your doctor is on vacation till Thanksgiving?  I'm with you, what's the point of him being your doctor?  What would that be, a 3 month vacation?  I'm doing something wrong, can't even squeeze in a weekend off (the joy of having your own business).  Once again, I am wondering for all of you taking the DD aproach instead of the lighter (maybe fewer SE) weekly schedule.  I think the benefit is the same, right?  Perhaps the easier, weekly schedule would allow you to function better, even if it lasts longer?

    I am off to visit my dear friend at her glorious house and lush gardens tomorrow (complete with Japanese tea house hanging over a lake).  I am going to pretend that I never heard the word cancer....just for a day!

    Oh!  Today is my 17th wedding anniversary.  Good things DO happen!

  • TMarina
    TMarina Member Posts: 692
    edited August 2010

    Dmom-->  Happy anniversary!!  Have a WONDERFUL visit with your friends.  Sounds beautiful!

    Mimi-->SORRY you ended up in the hospital!  I hope you can get some relief with some changes!

    Bon-->Still praying for your mom.  I hope they got everything worked out for her, and she gets to stay at the hospital until she's feeling better.  This must be so tough on you--its the LAST thing you need right now.  Hang in there!  Hope both you and your mom are feeling better tonight.

    Latte--> hoping for good news right along with you!!

  • workmother
    workmother Member Posts: 78
    edited August 2010

    Hi everyone. Had my second Taxol dd today. Onc. had me take my Benadryl orally this time since I had such a funky reaction last time. Much better! Its the small things that make me happy. Rest of treatment went fine. Just a LONG day again. I am feeling kind of tingly inside all over my body this evening. Its a strange feeling!!! A new SE for me?

    I go back to work tomorrow. Hope the steroids dont keep me up all night like last time. Onc. did give me a script for Percastat for joint pain I had last time. Maybe if I take that tonight I'll sleep? but will I wake up OK for work? Decisions. decisions!! I echo the WHAT the heck sentiment.

    Onc. said he will touch base with the rads onc this week to get me my first consult. UGH. It never ends. I think I will join in the primal scream of there is room! -Donna

  • PearlGirl
    PearlGirl Member Posts: 549
    edited September 2010

    DesignerMom...Happy Anniversary! Congratulations on 17 great years! I'm really happy for you that you got a great guy...and he even came with his own soundproof room. August 31st is a great day!  (BTW...this would have been my umpteenth wedding anniversary had my marriage to "Richard, that rat bastard, may he rot in hell" not ended in divorce. The name is one given to him by my friends, collectively, and to this day none of them refers to him without uttering the entire phrase).

    And, here's the latest on the Mom front...the chief hospital dietitian brought my Mom a dinner tonight that she had personally chosen to comply with the multiple dietary restrictions Mom is facing as the docs try to figure out what to do next. Not only are they trying to eliminate gluten and lactose, but they have specified low residue (ala, no fiber, lots of white, plain stuff) and they are watching the sugar and salt intake, too. Makes it pretty difficult to find much that she can eat. So what does this sterling professional give her?  Roast chicken with peas and carrots!  Peas to a woman who is having diarrhea 8 times a day!  So tonight the peas made it 9.  I swear I have to rescue her from these incompetents. I bet even your kids and grandkids know that if their tummy isn't well, peas wouldn't be a good choice.  A dietitian, no less. Wonder where her degree is from? I so wish I had been there when the tray was delivered. That dietitian would have been wearing those peas.

    I'm with D'Mom...tomorrow let's all pretend we never heard the word cancer...at least for one day. 

  • JFV
    JFV Member Posts: 795
    edited September 2010

    BON_ AAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • DesignerMom
    DesignerMom Member Posts: 1,464
    edited September 2010
    Bon-  I don't know if I am laughing at your "rat bastard, may he rot in hell" comment or crying because those medical nitwits taking care of mom truly are incompetent!  I wish I was in Florida, I would park myself at your mom's bedside, loaded for bear and boy would they have some explaining to do!  I'm wondering if some extra research should be done?  I know they don't feed peas and carrots to babies sick with cholera etc, they give them some sort of balancing liquids, don't they?  Are these doctors who specialize in geriatrics?  For now, more prayers going up for mom AND her doctors.
  • cheyenna
    cheyenna Member Posts: 379
    edited September 2010
    I THINK CANCER SHOULD GET CANCER AND DIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • PearlGirl
    PearlGirl Member Posts: 549
    edited September 2010
    Chey...beautifully said! 
  • kittycat
    kittycat Member Posts: 2,144
    edited September 2010

    Bon - OMG!!!  I can't believe the chief dietician gave your mom peas!!!  I'd throw a bag of frozen peas at her just for being stupid!!!!!  UGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I hope she gets some competent help and doesn't get transferred to the rehab facility.  Unbelievable!

    Tomorrow is my 4th weekly Taxol treatment!  I am feeling much better the past few days since I slept for a few days.  One of my coworkers told me that some of my customers have asked her how I was doing and that they are worried about me.  My manager is coming in on Thursday to work with me all day.  We're going to go over some stuff where I need help and go over a plan that works for me (which means I either go out on STD or have real help from team members).  One of my coworkers who travels a lot volunteered to travel to see my customers in Reno.  That was so sweet (esp since I know how much he dislikes traveling for work). 

    About counts... I was told that my WBC cannot go below 1 and my RBC cannot go below 8.  Last week I was above 5 on the WBC and 8.8 on my RBC.  I really hope I don't need a blood transfusion. However, a couple of my friends had to get a blood transfusion and they said it was okay.  Yuck!

  • kittycat
    kittycat Member Posts: 2,144
    edited September 2010

    Chey - I agree!  Cancer Sucks!

  • julia2
    julia2 Member Posts: 183
    edited September 2010

    Morning Ladies!  Kittycat, what a beautiful new photo of you!  You are so pretty!  Bon, I just keep visualizing all of us in you're Mom's room when the doctors rounds occur!  Boy would he be in for it!  Got my BRCA1 and 2 results yesterday, negative, yippee!  Also went to a free lymphedema education seminar last night at the hospital, which made me feel a lot less scared about getting lymphedema.  All in all, a good day.

    The biggest cloud in my sky at the moment is work.  I am on a project where the client has made it clear she thinks my role is worthless.  This is becoming a self-fulfilling prophecy since she won't include me in anything so I am less effective than I could/should be.  What i want to say, and I can say to you guys, is 'Look you crazy bitch, I am GREAT at what I do, the demand for me is really high because I'm great at what I do, if you would allow me to do my job, perhaps you would see the benefit of having a dedicated professional in my role on your project.  Plus, I have cancer, so you should be a damn site nicer to me than you are'.  There, i feel better now.

    Julia     

  • grneyd5600
    grneyd5600 Member Posts: 420
    edited September 2010

    Ladies,

    I made out well with Taxol tx #3.  Overall no real SE's.  I was up all night from the steriods but it's all good.  I did talk with onc and he agreed to reduce my steriod dosage next time to see if I can avoid the "all nighters" afterward.  I do have a "fill" today for my expanders so I will have a bit of discomfort from that tonight so I hope I can sleep toninght. 

    Anyway, hang in there girls.  We are all in this together and that gives us hope!  Have a wonderful day.

  • VickyThomas
    VickyThomas Member Posts: 54
    edited September 2010
    @chey, I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU...
  • Latte
    Latte Member Posts: 1,072
    edited September 2010

    kittycat - great new photo! Is it a wig or an old photo? either way it looks amazing. About the blood transfusion - i know it sounds yuck, but i know people who have had them and they say you feel so much better afterwards.

     chey - i kind of agree with you, but on the other hand don't want anyone to die of cancer, even cancer itself...

     designermom - that friend's house sounds amazing!!!

     workmother - i also take my benedryl orally (was never given any other option)

     and finally - my good news - my CT brain scan was clear :-). But I still have debillitating headaches - any ideas on why? they started one week after my last AC and have continued through the Taxols, so they don't seem to be aSE of a specific chemo.

  • Trusting
    Trusting Member Posts: 43
    edited September 2010

    Hi Sherry9316,

     FEC was ok and I made it through the 3 treatments. I did have SE such as nausea and fatigue. I found that with each treatment the fatigue got worse. FEC SE were gone within the first week though and for the next two weeks after that I found I was almost normal. Make sure with FEC to manage your nausea and do ask for prn nausea medication and the Odansetron. If you feel nauseated use the prn meds too. I wish you well and it sounds like you will be ok. Think positive. I am now on Docetaxol and find that has a whole new set of SE to go with it too. I have 2 more treatments left and they could not be over soon enough. The FEC definetly worked in shrinking my tumor and my lymph nodes. I would listen to your ongologist. Let us face fact NONE of these chemo drugs are a walk in the park and we have no choice. It takes the devil to kill the devil so to say.

    Take care,

    Trusting

  • Trusting
    Trusting Member Posts: 43
    edited September 2010

    Hi Northern Girl,

    I read your last post and you sound so much better and I am glad the Gabapentin is alleviating some of your pain. It is good to hear you say this is doable and it is. We have no choice. My daughter is heading to Uvic this weekend and I will miss her too. I also have a counterful of meds and see my husband carefully reading the bottles when I ask for one. I must say none of these chemo drugs are easy and Docetaxol has its own new set of side effects. I have a sinus infection and feel really tired. I think the fatigue becomes cummulative and I find it harder to recoup these days but I am. Two more treatments for me and I can hardly wait to be done.

    Take care,

    Trusting

  • Sherry9316
    Sherry9316 Member Posts: 294
    edited September 2010

    Last Taxol/Carboplatin tx today!  Should have been more of a celebration, but my meeting with onc revealed some new information that was not positive.  It seems I also had a DCIS tumor along with my IDC tumor and I never knew that.  Although it was right there in my pathology report.  I must have been in outer space when I looked over the report.  We discussed some other things going on with my that negatively compounds my type of cancer. My onc confirmed that he really wants me to do the FEC and so I will.  I won't like it but I will. I start FEC on Sept 22.  I am really afraid - but somehow I will make it.  I have you guys, I have my strong, supportive husband and family, and I have DRUGS! 

    Trusting - what is Odansetron and what do you take it for?  I don't have that.  I do have lots of AM and PM nausea drugs and some for in between I think!  After my experience with AC, I will definitely start the meds as soon as I have an inkling of any nausea.

    Onc told me something interesting today - he said it takes at least a year after all your treatments are over before you get back to normal mentally after all you've dealt with in your mind. Never thought much about that because I feel like I am strong emotionally and mentally.  I do get a little cranky the evening before and day of chemo (according to my husband LOL)!  It's my body that's failed me in more ways than one.  Anyway, I had never heard that.  Wondering if anyone else has heard or read or been told that.  

    Bon, honey.  I can't think of words to comfort you with all you've been through lately.  It just seems overwhelming to me.  And yet here you are, supporting all of us and hanging in there.  Bless your heart!  Just know that I pray every day for your situation.  I so hope it takes a turn for the better real soon.

    Chey - I think your meds are working!  <giggle>  Yay!

  • Sherry9316
    Sherry9316 Member Posts: 294
    edited September 2010

    P.S.  I just thought of something.  Since I'm starting a new chemo regimen in September, should I post in a September chemo thread for that instead of here?  I don't even know if there is a September chemo thread yet or not.

  • cheyenna
    cheyenna Member Posts: 379
    edited September 2010

    Sherry im so sorry to hear that, you have been through so much, we have made it this far,we can make it to the end.... NO you need to stay here with us!!!! i say we all started together and we will finish together. ill be on chemo till November but am staying with all you guys!!!!!!....... I have heard that as well, it takes a good year but maybe we dont notice till we are there, did that make sense? yes i think the Lexapro is helping but i still cry,Undecided

    love Chey

  • PearlGirl
    PearlGirl Member Posts: 549
    edited September 2010

    Sherry...with all you're faced with and have been through, I am humbled that you would be concerned for me. I come here to vent and ask for understanding, full well knowing that each of you is dealing with your own critical issues. I sincerely appreciate your kind words and understanding that my Mom's illness has me reeling. I know that she may not be around forever, but I'm not prepared to lose her now, especially not now. She is showing a bit of improvement with strict dietary control and a change of meds and they are scoping her tomorrow morning. Having that polite hissy-fit with both docs seems to have made an impact. So did my explosion over the peas. Today her meal trays were flawless...I'm having her phone me before she takes a bite of anything. Heck, once burned, twice shy, right?

    Had my 2nd MUGA this morning and then went back to bed. I know my RC count is way off and I just haven't bounced back from the last two chemos. GERD wakes me up from a sound sleep so still have to get that GI consult in before next weeks visit with radiation oncologist (RO). Am too tired and stressed at the moment. I just need some peace and quiet for a few days...and I know that isn't ever going to happen.

    Bless you all. I hope everyone has a worry-free rest tonight and a day without SEs tomorrow.

  • lizzyanne
    lizzyanne Member Posts: 73
    edited September 2010

    My transfusion went well on Saturday. I got 2 units of RBC...hopefully that will bring me up to a 10. I will find out on Friday when I go for my second Taxol/Herceptin TX. Are any of you having red blotchy things as a result of the Taxol or Herceptin. I have one on my chest (last 3 days) and am going to see the plastic surgeon tomorrow as it is on my right boobie - the one he is "pumping up". It's not near the port or scar..I am also noticing that I have a few red spots on my face - just noticed tonight...

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