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  • Julie50
    Julie50 Member Posts: 227
    edited August 2010

    Does anyone have the arm pain??? Mine started today.  I still have 3.5 weeks to go...:(

  • Houndmommy
    Houndmommy Member Posts: 377
    edited August 2010

    For those of you that used hydrocortisone cream, how long did you use it before the itchiness went away?  I am going crazy here!

    Julie - I didn't have specific arm pain.  Just overall soreness and some shooting pains in the rads area.

    Kim

  • bailey1958
    bailey1958 Member Posts: 199
    edited August 2010

    Hi Ladies,

    I am five days out of treatment. Kim, I am sad to say even with hydrocortisone cream I am more itchy today than I have been throughout the treatment. The effects continue to worsen for me - my skin is darker, each day and though the sores have stopped forming they are certainly very itchy. I am also as of yesterday starting to have really sharp pains from my collarbone all the way into my breast no arm pain though Julie - probably because I wasn't radiated in my arm pit. Yuck - sorry to bare bad news - maybe others who are done have had better luck.

     Sonia 

  • bennybear
    bennybear Member Posts: 326
    edited August 2010

    HI  all,

     Thanks for the kind words. 

    Julie,  I had pain under my arm,  that was the sorest,  I am wondering if it isn't around the lymph nodes,  that is the area that was the reddest as well as sore inside.   I was thinking I hadn't been slathering as much cream in that area,  because initially I didn't realize that would be radiated as well. 

    Kim,  I think they don't tell you everything,  kind of like Disneyland, hide the lines,   The hydrocortisone only was offered to me when I complained about the itchiness.   It seemed to help a lot right away for me,  but I put the glaxal base on top,  the onc nurse said the itch is because the skin is so dried out,  makes sense.  I also don't know if I belong yet in the land of the normal???

    Sonia,  hope it works soon for you,   once things get better,  they get better way faster than they got worse if that is any help. 

    Donna,  let us know how the return to work goes.   I am still trying to figure that out,  Saw my surgeon today and my gp tomorrow.    

    Okay for the laugh today,   I saw a student first,   she had no idea what oncotype was,  and then my surgeon told her  radiation leaves a permanent sunburn,  I have these weird brown spots under my breast now. What fun showing your boobs to the world and them being used to illustrate what happens to the nipple and aureole.   I pretty much feel I could be topless anywhere.  LOL....

    Brenda

  • LoveCranes
    LoveCranes Member Posts: 39
    edited August 2010

    Hi everyone,

    Just finished my last boost today (total of 8), but still have 13 (having a total of 28) full breast rads to go.  At least it gave me a bit of a rest, but now I still need to finish.   I've figured out that I'll be done when my kids start school.  At least I'll be able to rest a while since I'm a SAHM.  I feel a bit sorry for them since we didn't do too much during their summer vacation, but at least they seem to understand.

    I really appreciate you that are finished to continue to post to let us know what other "normal" things can go on after rads are finished. 

    Donna / Julie - I pains that I experience is the sharp ones that's inside, probably by my chest wall since that's where part of the incision is at.  I've also recently developed a pain on my back, near my armpit area.  It hurts when it's pressed.  My rad onco said that I probably strained it, but we'll monitor it.  I just know that it started on Fri and still hurts.

    Julie - I think that we'll be ending on the same day. :)  I have 13 left to go, but I'll still be here checking in and supporting everyone.

    Linda - congrats on finishing. 

    Brenda - thanks for the recommendations on the books.  I've been debating on which one to buy or at least try to find them at my local library.

    Speedygirl - Happy Birthday.  What a great birthday surprise.

    Hope everyone have a great week. 

    Patty

  • Chicago1018
    Chicago1018 Member Posts: 147
    edited August 2010

    Hi ladies--

    I am officially 1 week out from finishing my rads and I have to say the itching got way worse for me once I finished.  I had been using aristicort (RX steroid cream) for the itching and although that helped, using some basic moisturizer (I used cetaphil) on the skin seemed to help a ton!  Obviously I wouldn't reccommend "breaking the rules" if you Dr says no moisturizer but I got the green light since I am finished.  I really just think my skin is very dry and therefore. . .qutite thirsty!

    The color of my skin is going back to "normal" (our favorite word) this week.  The area under my arm is peeling a little but not in a particularly bad way.  I was fortunate enough that I didn't get too bad of a skin reaction so I think when I see my doctor for follow up next week, he'll say i am good to go! 

    The breast tightness is starting to improve for me but it is slow.  My TE still feels like a brick on my chest and I can't stretch as far on my left side as my right, yet.  Baby steps I guess.  I just want to get my on to my fills so I can ditch the foobie! 

    Hugs to all of you getting zapped today!!!

  • changes
    changes Member Posts: 622
    edited August 2010

    Hi everyone,

    I hope everybody's doing well with treatment (or recovering from it, as the case may be). I have a question about follow-up. I'm down to two treatments, and asked the nurse today how long I would have to return for follow-up. To be honest, I was really expecting a single follow-up visit a few weeks out to be sure I was healing properly. Her response was FIVE YEARS!! I waited to see if she laughed, but she assured me she was not joking. I had no idea I would have to keep seeing the radiation oncologist for so long. I expected to see the medical oncologist for forever, but now I have to see the radiation oncologist for five years, and I also have to see the surgeon at least one more time (although my surgery was in May). I really want to get started on moving on with my life, but don't know how I'm supposed to do that if I'm seeing all these doctors so often. Yeesh! Is this typical, or just a quirk of my radiation oncology center?

     Thanks,

    Karen

  • Julie50
    Julie50 Member Posts: 227
    edited August 2010

    Karen:  I was told the same thing, but I have spoken to so many people that say they only go back twice and that is it...I don't understand why we would have to keep seeing them...hummmmm

    Chicago-Hope you are feeling better today.  Glad you are almost done and over with this part of the journey.

    Patty-My last day is the 14th of Sept....Wish it was tomorrow..

    Ok ladies off to watch some t.v with my new friend the ice pack.

    Hugs to all

    J

  • changes
    changes Member Posts: 622
    edited August 2010

    Julie,

    I asked the nurse WHY I would have to come back for five years. She looked at me very seriously and said, "honey, you had radiation." Oh, really??? I thought I was going in everyday for a nice massage and facial!! Oh, well...

    Karen

  • Houndmommy
    Houndmommy Member Posts: 377
    edited August 2010

    Hi Everyone!

    How is everyone doing this evening?  I am red, rashy and itchy!  

    As for the doctors...I am totally confused as to who I have to see and when I see them.  I will see the surgeon twice a year for awhile.  I see a rad nurse in October to see how I am healing and then I see the rad onc again 6 months from now.  I see my medical onc Thursday and then I don't know how often she will follow up with me.  I'll be taking "T" so I hope I see her regularly.  THen I also will see my obgyn in December for my "normal" exam.  That is a lot of doctors but I guess the way I look at it, the more people looking at me and my chest/breast, the better.  I am so scared of a recurrance that I am glad to have lots of people looking.  I am sure it will get old fast and I will not want to go  - at least I hope I feel that way since it will mean some of the fear is gone. 

    Julie - how is the accupuncture going?

    I hope you all are doing well!  Kim

  • MagPag
    MagPag Member Posts: 98
    edited August 2010

    Hi Everybody,  I feel so out of the loop having not checked in for a few days and miss you!  Going back to work has been crazy and I haven't been able to read all the posts.  But wanted to quickly check to see how you all are doing, Glad to see some of you are finished and healing.  Sorry to hear about so much itching and other SEs.

    Hope to catch up and read in detail tomorrow.  I was only off for two weeks, but it's really hard to get back in a lot of ways.  Folks are nice and want updates, but I really don't want to get into too much detail with them.  Other folks think that you're just done and automatically back 100%. A lot of work has backed up and deadlines are coming quickly, so it's pretty stressful.  And I know I've zoned out a couple of times each day... my focus is still not back and that's rather frustrating.

    Anyway, my skin is still healing really quickly.  My armpit skin is now fully filled back in and just red and itchy in spots underneath.

    Keep going ladies, we'll get through and beat this!  Off to get the school supplies ready for my son's the first day tomorrow.  Take care.  Donna.

  • rocknesmom
    rocknesmom Member Posts: 39
    edited August 2010

    Hi everyone!

    I took the weekend off to celebrate being done and not thinking about radiation anymore, but after reading the posts from the weekend, I should've stayed in touch! I'm so glad to hear that others have problems after finishing! My armpit is a MESS, and keeps getting worse, in spite of finishing 4 days ago! I am one HUGE raw patch of broken blisters, and since I had a mastectomy, my prosthetic is rubbing all over it! I am trying not to wear it, but I had to move my daughters into their dorm rooms this weekend and didn't want them to be known as the "the girls with the mom with one boob"!  Anyway, so glad to hear this is - wait for it - NORMAL. Fortunately, I am able to eat real food again! The throat issues have gone! WOO HOO!

    My sisters surprised me with a Pink Party Friday night, complete with tons of pink balloons, pink tablecloths, pink streamers everywhere, and even pink M&M's. My whole family was dressed in pink - even my sister-in-law's dog! It was such a great surprise! Made me feel a little more "done".

    Those of you still in radiation, please know that I am praying for you every day! We are a strong bunch!

    Love and hugs to all of you!

    Linda 

  • Julie50
    Julie50 Member Posts: 227
    edited August 2010

    Karen-LOVE IT, I still don't see why we have to see them time after time when we are done, I will question it today for us....

    Kim-Its going great, I go 3 times per week for a month, then once a week after that, it is working, still get them but not as often (HF).  my Insurance pays for 20 visits, then I have to pay and its $60.00 per week so not sure how I will handle that one, the Dr. did say he will write a letter and tell them I had cancer and need the treatments for comfort. We will see how that one goes.

    Donna-Good luck back at work, can you work PT for a few weeks until you feel 100%???

    Linda-How nice of your family to do that for you, that was so great of them---I hope you heal fast.

    Ok, time for the Spa have a great day ladies...

    Julie

  • bennybear
    bennybear Member Posts: 326
    edited August 2010

    Hi Gang,

    Linda,  I loved your party idea,  what a great thing.  sorry about your arm, hopefully it turns around quick.

    I celebrated "NORMAL"  by shaving my armpit today,   yeah..   My surgeon gave me the okay,   I have to see him every 4 months,  but my rad onc said as long as I was being followed by him that was okay.  He also explained that the risks for me are not greater than the benefits so no T.  Made sense.

    Karen   maybe it is the confusion between the spa and rads,   gotta love it.  LOL

    Julie,   I have heard that acupuncture helps with fatigue,  have you noticed that?

    Donna   I was worried about going back full bore,  because some days I still hit the wall.   I have a new job and new boss so have been very worried,  My doctor wants me to go back half time for a few months and see how that goes.   I am very relieved as I just spoke to my new boss and she was wondeful.  I just hate to let anyone down,  yet in ways I feel a bit betrayed by being sick,   I am always the one organizing and in charge,   I guess I still am learning the lesson that I am not in control. 

    Stay strong,

    Brenda  

  • changes
    changes Member Posts: 622
    edited August 2010

    Hi everyone,

    Kim - was today your last day or am I confused?? I agree that it's nice a lot of people will be checking. But if I see my med onc every 3 months and the rad onc every 3 months and the surgeon every 3 months, I will be taking off work once a month for routine medical appointments. At that rate, I will never build up any sick leave, and I don't think psychologically it is good for me. I'm fine with seeing the med onc every 3 months, but really don't see why I need to keep seeing the rad onc and the surgeon.

    Donna - glad to hear you're healing.

    Linda - the party sounds great! Glad to hear you can eat againSmile

    Julie - glad to hear the acupuncture is helping.

    Brenda - congrats on getting to shave again! My doc gave me permission to start shaving and using deodorant once I switched to the boosts.  I was so excited - hard to believe such a little thing could matter so much.

    Karen

  • spendygirl
    spendygirl Member Posts: 231
    edited August 2010
    Hi everyone!  Three more boosts to go, it really did go pretty fast(33 total).  Had a nasty burn pop up under my arm last night with blisters (ugh).
    Congrats to everyone who is done!  Is it crazy that I'm going to miss the rad techs and nurses?  They have become such a part of my daily life during a life changing and life threatening time.  They're just so supportive and caring, sometimes I think they're the only ones who "get it".
    Anyway.....babbling on tonight.  Take care everyone, healing wishes to all.
  • Houndmommy
    Houndmommy Member Posts: 377
    edited August 2010

    Finally - I am done!!!!  Today was my last day and they gave me a certificate and I got to "ring the bell".  What a relief to not have to drive there everyday.  I agree Spendygir,l that it did go fast .On the hand, it seemed to take forever.  Weird, I know.  It will be so nice to have a whole day to get things done.  My chest is really red and the rash is spreading to beyond the area that was radiated - makes me wonder about how much "scatter" radiation I was getting around the area.

    Linda - sorry to hear your skin is such a mess but I'm happy to hear that your throat issues have cleared up.  Hopefully your skin will get better soon.  I have heard others say that when the skin starts to heal, it gets better fast.  I hope that is true!  What a great party!  That was so sweet of them to do for you!

    Julie - glad to hear the accupuncture is working!

    Hang in there to those of you still making the daily trek to the "spa".  You will get through it!

    Good night!  Kim

  • rocknesmom
    rocknesmom Member Posts: 39
    edited August 2010

    Kim, I am SO  happy for you! You started this great group of women and now you are DONE! I am so proud of you! 

    I know what you mean about the "scatter". I had lots of rash on the non-radiated side! I know that the skin beyond the boosts has healed really well. The armpit, a little worse tonight, but I am hopeful that each day it will be better!

     Take good care of yourself and CONGRATS on being done!!!

    Linda 

  • bailey1958
    bailey1958 Member Posts: 199
    edited August 2010

    Hi Everyone,

    Congratulations to those of you who have finished up - Linda and Kim and to those of you I've missed. Today I am one week out from radiation and this is the first day that the itching hasn't gotten worse. I have been still having a bit of a sore throat off and on - almost like a tiredness in my throat. The darkness and sores are still there but I have a feeling I was a tiny bit better today - the swelling has also come done a bit. Do hang in there, I think things can only get better (thank god!!!).  Linda - your family sounds lovely. I'm so glad you are surrounded by love. Kim, glad you won't have the drive - I bet you won't miss that. 

    I've been struggling with this feeling - I wonder if others have felt this - it's this sense of having lost my freedom. I realize that the people around me who haven't had to face this - they have a carefreeness about them, a freedom and innocence - like nothing bad will ever happen to them. I just feel sad in a way and I'm having trouble putting my finger on what it is but it's like I've just discovered that I will never feel worry free again. I think the only way to describe it is as the loss of freedom. I feel like everyone feels sorry for me - without saying it - who am I kidding - I feel sorry for me.

    Think I need to go back to work - maybe that will help??? Donna and Brenda - reading your posts make me wonder if I am ready or not. Brenda, your comment about needing to learn your not in control really resonates with me - thats a tough one - I think that also relates to this fear feeling and sadness I'm having - tough lessons this cancer thing doles out - yuck!!!

    Take care everyone, really glad your here. Thanks for starting this thread Kim. Don't know what I would do without you wonderful women.

    Sonia 

  • MagPag
    MagPag Member Posts: 98
    edited August 2010

    Hi,  Kim, good for you!  Do something special for yourself with the extra time. Thanks for starting this topic, you really helped get a very supportive group together.  There is so much comfort coming from sharing here!

    Linda, what a great pink surprise celebration! You are loved.

    Julie/Karen, my rad onc said to come back in 6 months.  Then if I'm follwed by the med onc and the surgeon no need to come back.  I think the surgeon said every 6 months for 2 years then once per year.  We'll see what the others say.  I don't want to use my personal time or vacation time for those either and none have office hours evenings and weekends.

    Brenda, nice to know you have support from your new boss.  That's a tough position to be in changing jobs during all this.  You're right about the control, but maybe it's time we give some things up and let others take them on.  I haven't figured it out yet.  Instead of feeling the relief of giving up assignments I too feel like I'm letting folks down.

    Sonia,  sorry your struggling with all the feelings and emotions.  In time it will get better.  I worry too about everything now and wonder how folks can be going about their business without this cloud of cancer over them.  I'm happy for them, but then annoyed.  The whole 'why me' thing is very real and I have to admit that I didn't get it before it happened to me either.

    Spendy, I miss the techs too....even the cranky ones :)

    Patty and everyone still going to the Spa everyday, stick with it, we're here to see you through!

    Ok, I'm off for a guilty pleasure.  Going to see Donnie and Marie tomorrow night with some friends.  My DH thinks I'm crazy, but I grew up with them and thought it would be a happy diversion.Laughing

    Take care.  Donna. 

  • bennybear
    bennybear Member Posts: 326
    edited August 2010

    HI Everyone,

    Congrats and thanks Kim for organizing this.

    Donna,   enjoy Donnie and Marie,  I am enjoying some really stupid movies.  I too am feeling I am letting everyone down,  probably myself more than others,   what a lot to wrap our heads around.

     Sonia, I know what you mean,  it is fuzzy and I have thought of it as a loss of "innocence"   meaning awareness of our own mortality.   Sometimes,  I feel like I am just observing not participating.  Weird feelings,  My daughter says I haven't dealt with it yet,  and she may be right,   I want to go back to normal,  there is that weird word again,   yet it isn't the same.   Sometimes,  I just feel too exhausted to deal with things,  yet not sleepy.  Seems like the emotional fatigue as well as the physical.  

     I need to go into my new office and set things up,  yet feel tired, scared a bit too as I don't know the people and right now that seems like a big thing,   Sometimes,  I just want to keep my head in the sand.  I guess that is why it is harder after,   during you just keep on going cause you have to and there are all these wonderful people,  now it is me,  and my tired hubby.    Sorry feeling sorry for myself,  things just seem so complicated.  I can deal with the concrete,  but that seems enough

     Thanks for being there,

    Brenda

  • changes
    changes Member Posts: 622
    edited August 2010

    Hi all,

    I am FINISHED! Had my last treatment about an hour ago. HOORAY!!

    Kim - Congratulations on being finished!

    Sonia - I can relate to your statement about loss of freedom. I still feel like I can't really plan for the future. I'm hoping it passes some with time, but maybe not.

    Donna - I'm jealous about going to see Donny and Marie - I had SUCH a crush on Donny Osmond when I was a little girl. Went to see the Osmond Brothers when I was about 10.

    Brenda - Good luck with the new job!

    Karen

  • eileenr56
    eileenr56 Member Posts: 135
    edited August 2010

    Congrats to everyone that is Finished.  I finished last thursday.  It's great.  The skin is still pink but fading.  The boost area isn't fading yet.  Not ichy yet.  so far so good.  It is a relief to be finished.

  • Chicago1018
    Chicago1018 Member Posts: 147
    edited August 2010

    Karen - my doctors are allowing me to rotate between them so as long as I am seeing someone every 3-6 months I am good.  The med onc will be at 3 months, the surgeon at 6, the rad onc at 9 etc.  They thought that it didn't make much sense to have 43 doctors appointments where they teach do essentially the same follow up.  Maybe you could convince yours!?

    Sonia - I understand a lot of what you are saying about the weird feelings.  I feel like I go between feeling disconnected from other people who haven't been through what I've been through to feeling like so many things are so trivial.  Getting upset about work just seems so insignificant to me and I would previously have described myself as a workaholic.  I guess this is what they describe as the new normal.

    Kim - thank you for starting this group.  I found myself coming to this group way more frequently than any of the others I joined.  I think I am going to follow your lead and pop over to the hormonal therapy list and start a sept tamox start if theree isn't one already.  If I could feel like I brought together half as many people as this group did I'd consider it a success!

  • Houndmommy
    Houndmommy Member Posts: 377
    edited August 2010

    Day 1 without having to go to the "spa"!  Unfortunately I still had to go back to the cancer center to see my med onc so I got to make the drive yet again - groan!  I continue to get more red and I'm still itchy but I think the hydrocortisone is helping.  The worst now is I have a small sore spot on my underarm (in the fold).  It really hurts and I find myself walking around with my hand on my hip or my arm away from my body so it doesn't rub.  I'm sure I look quite funny walking around like that!  Linda, glad to know I'm not the only one with the rash on non-radiated areas - I guess it must be "normal", lol!

    I'm sorry that I can't remember this, but who besides Julie are still having rads and when will you be done (I think Julie is finshed mid-Sept). It must be a bit frustrating to see everyone finishing when you have more to go.  We will stick around here for you and help you through until the end of your rads!

    Donna - I hope you enjoy your Donny and Marie concert!  I had a crush on Donny and did get to see the Osmond Brothers in concert (at the Ohio State Fair) when I was around 10 too, Karen - my poor parents!  We were sitting so far from the stage that they looked like little specs.  I also remember seeing girls being carried out because they had fainted -LOL! 

    I'm experiencing that loss of innocence/freedom/whatever it is as well.  I am definitely in touch with my mortality now and find it very hard to think about the more distant future.  My DH will talk about "when the kids graduate" or "when we retire" (10 years until the youngest graduates from college and longer still to retirement) and I find I can't plan that far away - I need to live NOW, not wait until some future time.  It is weird.  Anyway, we are all together in these strange, new feelings and I'm sure we'll figure it out.  It will just take time.  Brenda, I think there is an emotional fatigue that comes with all of this and like you, I find I want to just put my head in the sand and forget or pretend it isn't real. 

    We will get through this ladies!!!! Thank you all for being there!

    Chicago1018 - I'll be joining your September "T" thread.  I got my rx today and can start when I'm ready (as in, the onc expects me to start within the week - yikes!).  To any of you ladies not taking "T" but taking one of the other hormonal therapies, please join us!  Our SE's will have some differences but also some similarities. 

    Have a great evening!  Hugs, Kim

  • Chicago1018
    Chicago1018 Member Posts: 147
    edited August 2010

    I'll second what Kim says. . .the more the merrier on the "T" thread!

  • Houndmommy
    Houndmommy Member Posts: 377
    edited August 2010

    Talk about not really getting it.....so I have been lucky so far with my rad SE's.  Overall, no real issues until last week when I developed the itchy rash.  I have felt pretty good - I have had some days when I'm more tired but nothing I couldn't deal with.  I initially feared that I would have weeks of sleeping all the time (maybe that is yet to come?!) Okay, so DH says to me this evening, "how did it feel not to have to go to radiation?"  I said "I still had to make the drive and go to the same building to see the med onc so it really didn't feel any different."  He says, "No, I mean how does it feel not to have the toxic effects of the radiation." Uhhh?!  Sometimes he just doesn't listen!  I have told him that you feel nothing getting the rads and that the negative effects would continue for about a week after I was done and THEN things would start to clear up. It took nearly 5 weeks  before I had a drastic skin change.

    Sorry for the rant.  My DH is a great guy but he really doesn't want to hear or know anything.  He definitely has put his head in the sand when it comes to my cancer.  Thank goodness for you all because it can be real lonely here at home.

    Kim

  • NotAgain2015
    NotAgain2015 Member Posts: 223
    edited August 2010

    Hi Everyone,

    Congratulations to all of you who finished this week.  It feels good to be 'free' from the daily trek to meet 'the machine'.  I also so toally get what those of you have written regarding feeling a loss of innocence and of how this journey is a lonely one in so many ways because other people just don't 'get it'.  Even our families.  Unless that have had 'it'.  So true.  I find myself trying to put the whole thing out of my mind like it never happened.  But I know that is only temporary while I am on my in between radiation and the start of tamoxifen 'honeymoon' as I saw another person say once here.  Every time I take that pill I will soberly know why I am taking it and subjecting my entire body to the blocking of estrogen.

    For me, there has been an upside to this experience (in addition to you guys) in that I was kind of in the doldrums with my life.  Somehow this horrible experience has kick-started me out of that.  I feel, right now any way, that by God, I'm going to live!  Do what I love most - while I can - right now.  I don't know if I have a couple of good years left or 20 - who really knows?  It has also given me an awareness that initially made me intolerant of trivial issues that now makes me notice the trivial issues, but smile right past them in a knowing way.  Like cutting through fluff and concentrating on what matters when I can.

    I'm sure this feeling will come and go.  Some weeks feeling emotionally stong about it, and others just downright scared.  Anyone else wake up around 4am alone with your thoughts?  Now that's a scary time of night :). Usually started with a mild hot flash <g>.

    Anyway, it is nice to know we are not alone on this physical and emotional rollercoaster.  I'm so thankful for all of you and that we have each other. 

    PS:  The Donny and Marie concert sounds great - I had a crush on him too!!

  • bailey1958
    bailey1958 Member Posts: 199
    edited August 2010

    I feel so thankful I can come here each night and read your comments. Thank-you most especially for your comments and sharing around how this has changed you too!

    Brenda, what you said about observing and not participating really hit home for me. Sometimes I will be sitting in a room (tonight) with 20 people and feel completely alone - not at all in a bad way - but it is such a peculiar feeling -- just feeling like I live in a parallel universe to the one everyone else in my life lives in. I definitely feel like I am grieving - though I may seem like I have it together. I certainly feel like I protect everyone I love from those dark thoughts that come at 4 AM.  Kickon2it - what you said about cutting through fluff - it's so interesting to me how present I feel with myself - really for the first time in my whole life - I'm just so present in my body, feeling every itch, a complete awareness of what I must do to stay healthy, focused on what is good for me, what I can and cannot do anymore, trying to be true to myself and also to stop feeling like I have to take care of everyone else, just living in the present moment and like what so many of you said about not being able to focus on the future but actually trying to just live today. When I get really scared I ask myself "are you ok right now?" and "are you dying today?" and of course I am not -  I am trying really hard not to let myself spiral into those scary thoughts.

    You know Kim, I have that same feeling sometimes with my family, like they just don't want the details or they seem so shocked or confused by the details I've shared and they seem not to remember or they can't process what they know I've gone through - it seems easier for them not to know - maybe it's self-preservation? I'm not sure - but it kind of makes me go inside myself and disappear a little. I  think that's when this feelings of separateness / aloneness / 4 a.m. scared can come up. 

    Anyway, enough rambling and self-therapizing for tonight. Thanks for taking the time to be here - I know it is really important to me that you are.

    hugs and sweet dreams,

    sonia 

    I had Donny, the Osmond Brothers, Bobby Sherman and The Jackson 5 on my ceiling. Seems like a hundred years ago. 

  • Houndmommy
    Houndmommy Member Posts: 377
    edited August 2010

    I gues I spoke too soon.  I mentioned that I seemed to feel less itchy yesterday - well, last night I woke up (at 4:00am - what is it with that time?!) and was itchier than I have ever been.  It was horrible!  I put on 3 different creams and finally lay a cool, damp washcloth over my chest to stop the itchiness.

    Kickon2it - I know that "waking up at 4:00am with my scary thoughts" all too well.  I went through I rough time several weeks ago.  That is one of the things I dread about taking "T" - not sleeping well and then laying awake thinking all kinds of scary things.  I too, have really good times when I feel strong and then days when I feel so scared.  I guess this is part of the new "normal".

    Sonia - yes, I think it is self-preservation with our families.  My DH doesn't say much but I know the last 4 months have taken a toll on him.  I try very hard not to talk about my cancer with him even though sometimes I feel like it is the only thing I have to talk about.  I guess I try to protect him from worrying about the future but at the same time sometimes I really want to say the things that scare me out loud.

    Oh well, for today I am enjoying the fact that I don't have to go anywhere!  I am going to try to do a little cleaning - my house is falling apart! It will actually feel good to accomplish something after 6 weeks of getting very little done.

    Hugs to all of you!  Kim

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