femara and depression

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femara is for post menopausal bc's with 1 or more positive nodes.

I was on tamoxafen  for 5 years and have now been on femara for 3 and 1/2. I am having porblems with depression since going on femara.

Any one else?

I have 18 more months of this.

cheryl

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  • cheryl195
    cheryl195 Member Posts: 10
    edited August 2010

    sorry about the spelling

  • biking8fishing9
    biking8fishing9 Member Posts: 12
    edited August 2010

    I am thinking about putting a query to my onc of nurse practioner.  I have been on the femara since I think January.  And even though it causes less muscle and joint pain I have become mre depressed and anxious about this that and the other thing.  And have become rather tired of having to worry.

  • jeanieb2
    jeanieb2 Member Posts: 319
    edited August 2010

    I have been on Femara for 14 months now and was told I would have to take it for the next 15 or more years.  I also took Zometa once a month for a year and now only go every 3 months.  I have noticed a difference in my nervousness and anxiety.  I thought it was from being diagnosed again after being clear for 17 years and it was a total surprise because I had a bilateral mastectomy back then but it returned in my gallbladder.  I thought maybe it was just that but after reading some of your things I am thinking maybe it is the Femara.  I think I will as my oncologist when I go again in September and see what he says.  Has anyone asked their Doctors and if so what was their reply?  I don't know where to go to find out more about Femara, the other posts have been on Arimidex and they are similar but not exactly the same.  Thanks for your help.

  • jessamine
    jessamine Member Posts: 322
    edited August 2010

    I'm on Arimidex and had some problems with this early on, and while it's true they aren't exactly the same, I was told the cause of it was the estrogen depletion rather than a side effect, which would be the same. I don't have any answers other than that info about the possible cause- I started taking some natural stuff (SAM-E) and while I'm doing a lot better now, I think I just got lucky and it was only an adjustment period for me. But it could be something to try before taking the anti-depressant plunge, if it comes to that- if you did want to I was told to give it 6-8 weeks to start working.

  • jeanieb2
    jeanieb2 Member Posts: 319
    edited August 2010

    Thanks jessamine.  I will have to look into the SAM-E.  What is it and where can I find it?  I really, really do not want to take anti-depressants so will try alternative things first.  Let me know where I can find this.  Thanks again, I appreciate all the help I can get.  It helps to see what other people are doing to help with any side effects.

  • crazy4carrots
    crazy4carrots Member Posts: 5,324
    edited August 2010
    jeanie - I just opened a new packet of Femara and had a closer look at possible SE's.  Depression is definitely listed as a common SE.  I have had a few bouts (short ones, fortunately) since starting Femara 2 years ago.  They remind me of the "olden" days when depression was a chief symptom of PMS for me.  To counter-act it, I took Evening Primrose Oil which actually worked quite well.  Now I'll have to do some research and find out if EPO is safe to take these days.  (Sorry, should have done this before posting!).
  • jeanieb2
    jeanieb2 Member Posts: 319
    edited August 2010

    lindasa - Thanks for letting me know this.  I don't remember seeing that on my SE but I have not looked at the SE since I first started taking it.  I usually look the first time and then just throw the thing away.  I will look the next time.  I don't know if depression and anxiety are the same thing.  I have been fine here lately but it seems like it comes and goes.  I will even wake up sometimes being really nervous and my heart seems to be racing and I have no explanation for it and then I will go through a time when I feel fine.  I sometimes wonder if it is from the Femara or just the diagnosis of cancer again, or all in my head:)

  • Deborah51
    Deborah51 Member Posts: 19
    edited October 2010

    Hi lindas

    So glad I found some answers to Femara thought I was going mad to be honest because I am liking the symptoms of going through the menopause again although that is not possible as I am 59, loss of confidencek, can only go to places where I know how to get to, have to write everything down as a reminder of what is going on in my life, my phone has a calendar, i have a diary and plus the calendar on the kitchen wall - saw oncologist last week and mentioned this and her reply was well "all tablets have side effects"

  • psavast
    psavast Member Posts: 14
    edited October 2010

    Hi all

    I decided to stop by this forum to look into how the Femara is affecting others. I just had my second stage reconstruction surgery from my bilateral mastectomy from 11 months ago. I have gone through all of it. Chemo, radiation and now on Femara. I have found in the recent months that I have what I would describe as depression. Brought it up to my ocologist who said it was very common and of course offered me an antidepressant. I bowed out of that one. I did look all the side effects of Femara and depression was not listed as one. More commonly I believe we all go through some sort of depression over all we have been through. It is almost impossible to look back a year ago for myself but I had no time to think back then.....it was just do....get through the next treatment, physician appointment, phone call....etc. I am feeling so not myself and I am not sure where to turn.

    I am a single working female with grown sons......so I am pretty much on  my own except for wonderful friends. I feel that  Ineed to seek counseling yet not sure where to start. I want to talk to someone that can relate to me.  Oh....I have been on the Femara 5 months.

    Any suggestions?

  • Texas357
    Texas357 Member Posts: 1,552
    edited October 2010

    I'm glad to see this subject come up because I was doing great for the first months of diagnosis/treatment UNTIL I started Femara. Now that little 'feeling' of worry of recurrence, etc. feels like it's taking over my life. The anxiety is giving me headaches. I am only 18 months into my Femara treatment ... combined with the pain, "chemo-brain" type issues and the thinning hair ... it's been tough.

  • ByFaith
    ByFaith Member Posts: 270
    edited October 2010

    A few weeks after starting Femara, depression hit me very hard.  My doctor recently started me on an SSRI and said depression was a common side effect of Femara. Until the SSRI kicks in, I still wake up with a feeling of dread, hate to be left alone, and have to push myself to do most everything. In my humble opinion, Femara must cause depression because it leaves us with no estrogen, which is vital to a woman's sense of well being.  Right now, I'm waiting for the SSRI to take effect and trying to cope as best I can.   

    When the family is home, I'm much better, but all day I fight the depression. I do feel lucky I'm ER+ and able to take Femara, so I also try to concentrate on that until my mood hopefully lifts. Until then, I try to force myself to do simple things, cuddle with my dogs when the family is out, and try to escape in a good novel, but even reading is a "chore" at times.  

    I send big hugs to all my fellow BC and depression sufferers ... 

  • ByFaith
    ByFaith Member Posts: 270
    edited October 2010
    From diagnosis through end of treatment, I never felt depressed.  Shock and sadness at first, but that gradually improved as treatment started.  However, a few weeks after starting Femara, depression hit me very hard.  My doctor recently started me on an SSRI and said depression was a common side effect of Femara. Until the SSRI kicks in, I still wake up with a feeling of dread, hate to be left alone, and have to push myself to do most everything. In my humble opinion, Femara must cause depression because it leaves us with no estrogen, which is vital to a woman's sense of well being.  Right now, I'm waiting for the SSRI to take effect and trying to cope as best I can.   When the family is home, I'm much better, but all day I fight the depression. I do feel lucky I'm ER+ and able to take Femara, so I also try to concentrate on that until my mood hopefully lifts. Until then, I try to force myself to do simple things, cuddle with my dogs when the family is out, and try to escape in a good novel, but even reading is a "chore" at times. I feel "guilty" being depressed because I know I have an early stage breast cancer and haven't had a hard time like many, but it's not a logical thing.  I definitely feel this is very biological.   I send big hugs to all my fellow BC and depression sufferers ... 
  • PugMum
    PugMum Member Posts: 80
    edited October 2010

    It NEVER crossed my mind that Femara might be the cause of my depression. I've been on it for about a year-and-a-half and am feeling full-blown depressed. I've always had some anxiety, but this is really something new for me. I think I was just concentrating on the possible aches and pains associated with Femara and thought I was lucky that I wasn't taking Tamoxifin or Arimidex. So.......can anyone suggest any good anti-depressants for me to request when I see my very accomodating oncologist next week? I've been on Effexor Xr (never again) and Lexapro in the past but I'm wondering about Wellbutrin. My only other issue is hypertension, so I don't know if I'm a candidate for that drug. As always, I'm thankful for this board and all who keep us sane with their humor and wisdom.

  • ByFaith
    ByFaith Member Posts: 270
    edited August 2013

    I'd love to help you with an antidepressant suggestion, but it truly is an individual case-by-case basis ...and certainly with your hypertension you'll want a doctor's specific recommendation.  

    I'd just be prepared before visiting your doctor with a list of what antidepressants did NOT work well for you in the past and what side effects you find intolerable (weight gain, for example).  Good docs (and certainly psychs) know the side effects of antidepressants, as do pharmacists as an excellent second opinion, and some antidepressants have lots of them and some have little. I also always ask about serious side effects, given all the drug recalls, as I recently found out that Cymbalta can cause liver problems and liver function tests should be monitored.  No thanks, as mine are already being monitored on the Femara!  Some people prefer an older SSRI with a track record.  It's all very personal.  Wish I could help more.

    I've read Celexa has a very low side effect profile, but it also causes more than the typical amount of nausea during the first 2 weeks. This was confirmed by my pharmacist, who took it personally and had a few tries until she got past the 2 weeks and was side effect free and on her way out of depression.  

    I'd also speak with your doctor about your exercise regimen, if you're well enough to exercise, to get his okay and a good plan to help with hypertension and depression. I know when I'm well enough to exercise, it lifts my spirits.  

     Best of luck to you! 

  • emily130
    emily130 Member Posts: 1
    edited November 2010
    I was on Femara after radiation and emotionally crumbled after 10 days. My doctor took me off for a month and in 10 days I felt better than I had in a year. I felt like I was back to my old self. After a month break, we eased into a full dose again over three weeks and now, about two weeks later, I'm a depressed, anxiety-ridden wreck again...and I'm so not like that. The rest of the side effects have been minimal compared to this. I'm finding it difficult to work, but gotta keep up with those health insurance premiums! Not much energy left for any quality of life, including the exercise and healthy cooking I should be doing more regularly. I'm beginning to wonder if the decline in quality of life is worth the lowered risk of a recurrence, which for me is low anyway. But lymphedema is low too and now I have a mild case of that--which I'm wondering might be from the Femara as well since I had none until now.
  • Binney4
    Binney4 Member Posts: 8,609
    edited November 2010

    Emily, welcome!

    I'm so sorry about the crummy depression you're dealing with. The lymphedema is not likely related to the Femara, but being diagnosed with lymphedema is actually very depressing and may well be contributing to the lack of motivation and your sense that your quality of life is lower. Have you connected with a really good, well-trained lymphedema therapist? The initial therapy is a steep learning curve and discouraging, but learning to manage it does get easier over time. Honest!

    Gentle hugs!
    Binney

  • cheryl195
    cheryl195 Member Posts: 10
    edited December 2010

    Hello Ladies, it's cheryl195 the poster of this topic in Aug.

    So glad to read all of the other posts on this.

    I have 12 months left on femara and then we'll see how much is drug side effects and how much is just aging.

    Glad to be aging:)

  • cheryl195
    cheryl195 Member Posts: 10
    edited December 2010

    I have heard women describe femara side effects as feeling like pms all over again:(

    My hair looks dead it is so dry, and I've heard this is a side effect? Every time I have a hotflash I get a couple minutes of anxiety and then it goes away. I find it much easier to deal with at work. At home I have to fight shutting down.

    So in Jan of 2012 after 5 years of tamoxifen and 5 years of femara, I believe I'll be off of the bc meds?

    I still see my onc every 6 months.

    I was 48 when I was diagnosed. I have no idea what normal menopause is like, so it is hard to know how much of this is drug related?

    Hey but at least we are here to fight the good fight.

    My pink sisters keep me going and hoping! Aging is hard no matter what...

    But again I say, "at least we are aging!"

    Happy Holidays everyone.

  • cheryl195
    cheryl195 Member Posts: 10
    edited December 2010

    I tried the wellbutrin. It and the effexor gives me restless leg syndrome:(

    I'm just doing prozac now and when I exercise it does help. I think the best way I heard femara side effects described is like pms.

  • sanaisa
    sanaisa Member Posts: 167
    edited January 2011

    This is a nice discussion! I am fascinated as after surgery, chemo, rads and a year of herceptin (sitll doing the Zometa trial), my onc told me that I needed to go off of the SSRI I was on (Prozac) as it contraindicted Femara.  I met with a psychiatrist and he had only two options for antidepressant meds that he said were safe with Femara.  One was Effexor and the other is a brand new med (can't recall what it was at the moment).  I said I would tough it out as I have heard Effexor gives hotflashes/makes you perspire more, etc. I figured with all the SE of Femara, that I would give it my best to not take any antidepressants. 

    Wow.

    This has been 10 months of emotional trials.  I have significant depression, but I am somehow managing.  Of course, there is the camp that says having depression very much takes a toll on our bodies.  I have even had strangers tell me that depression can exacerbate or help facilitate the progression of cancer (the whole stress/unhappiness factor).  What a slippery slope that whole concept it.  I "try" so hard to be happy go lucky...

    So here's a weird one...I saw my Onc for the first time today since August (my last Herceptin).  I told him about how the Femara has affected my physical well being, that even my Yoga instructor has noticed a obvious decline in my flexibility (very frustrating - it is almost as if my progress is retracting).  My Onc told me today that I was not imagining this, and that this is a very common SE.  I just turned 47...was before stupid cancer, I was riding centuries, spinning classes, yoga, swimming, etc.  I was in excellent physical health...anyway...where was I?  Ah, yes...so my Onc tells me today that he wants to to go off Femara and start Aromasin.  He said that Aromasin is also an AI  and --- get this...he said that on Aromasin, I should be able to notice some difference in my tendonds, etc.  Of couse, he wants to do a PET body scan and a breast ultrasound (as I am haiving pain in the affected breast), Here's to feeling better...:)

  • cheryl195
    cheryl195 Member Posts: 10
    edited February 2011

    Just knowing that I'm not alone in my femara depression helps. I'm better with people around and things to do as well. I will be done with femara in Dec of 2011 yeah!!!! My onc thinks I will be able to just see my pcp after that and do blood work once a year. This site has been a life saver more than once. I didn't realize it had started just before I was diagnosed. So we are 10 years out together.

    Positive thoughts and Prayers to all of my pink sisters!

  • cheryl195
    cheryl195 Member Posts: 10
    edited March 2011

    Interesting. I'm gong to have to ask my onc about the interference with prozac and femara. I'll let you all know what she says:)

  • DAHL
    DAHL Member Posts: 4
    edited October 2017

    Oh my, I just stumbled on this discussion after searching Letrozole depression and anxiety. I feel as if I am losing my mind. I am anxious and at the same time feel that the Wellbutrin that I have been on for depression has stopped working completely. I was originally on Anastrozole and my Onc. took me off because I could barely walk while on it. The joint and muscle pain has been tolerable on the Letrozole but the mental aspect is just as disabling. I have another month and a half until my next appointment but just wanted to thank you ladies for helping me to realize that it is most probably the AI that is causing this. It helps to know that there are others out there and that I am not alone.

  • Falconer
    Falconer Member Posts: 1,192
    edited October 2017

    Hi DAHL, sorry you're here, but you'll get help. This is an old thread; some of the folks on it aren't monitoring it. It'll be easier to get answers if you check active threadslike this one:

    https://community.breastcancer.org/forum/78/topics/726592?page=314#idx_9402

  • ShetlandPony
    ShetlandPony Member Posts: 4,924
    edited October 2017

    If letrozole is causing the trouble, you can ask your onc if Tamoxifen might be an alternative for you.

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