July 2010 Rads
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Well I took the benedryl (for my itchiness) last night and I guess between that and my exhaustion I slept really well! I felt pretty good this morning but as the day wore on I started feeling more and more nauseous - what is that all about?!
Sonia - glad you enjoyed your morning at home.Thanks for your thoughts/info on my sleeping issues and the Ativan. I didn't take it because I took the benedryl but I will take it if my sleep issues continue. This is one of those times in life when you need to do what ever it takes to get through. Sleep is important for our immune system too. With the rads and cancer it is important to keep the immune system in top shape! Anyway, after reading your post I feel better about taking it.
Patty - how many tx do you have left? We will certainly hang around til everyone is finished. Julie has a way to go yet too so you aren't alone. Also, I notice that some of the older radiation threads pop up and I assume it is members of that group checking in with each other. We can do the same.
Julie - Congrats on getting a better nights sleep! I will be anxious to hear if the accupuncture helps. Will you need more than one treatment or should one take care of things? Also, if you have to smoke then one a day is certainly so much better than a pack ! Keep up the good work! I have never smoked but I would imagine the stress of all you have been through would make it harder to stop so I think the fact that you only smoke one is great.
Susan - I think it is great that you have been able to use your time off with this dreaded disease for some good. I know my perspective and thoughts on things have changed. I want to have more fun and be less uptight about silly things like keeping my house clean!
Spendygirl - glad you have found some relief from you wounds. I guess that is the advantage to not having a breast during this process - my chest is flat so everything gets plenty of air! I am itchy though! I too hope that our little group can stay in touch. I would be happy to start a September tamoxifen/antihormonal thread (I know not everyone is taking "T" ) or we can jump on the August thread. Let me know what you all think.
Have a good night everyone! I'm going to slather on the emu oil, take my benedryl and head to bed.
Hugs, Kim
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Hi all,
Congratulations Waltersren and Eileen on being finished with this part of the journey!
Lovescrane - don't worry, we'll all stick check in I'm sure - after all, we will have the post-radation side effects which will all be NORMAL! (LOL). Sorry Julie - I know you've had it with that word
Julie - I never developed a cough, but I was warned that I might because a small part of my left lung was in the radiation field. The doctor assured me that if I did get a cough, it would go away.
Kim - sorry you're having so much trouble with itchiness.
Susan - like you, I have just begun to process this whole experience. I expect it to be a LONG process, too.
Spendygirl - I did not take any pictures of my breast - I figure my oncology and radiology team took MORE than enough of those
One more day and then we get a radiation-free weekend. Hang in there!
Karen
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Hey ladies,
Almost the weekend and break for you all. It seems Karen and I are on the August Tamoxifen thread already. I would like to stick together - so I will post where ever you all are. I am sticking around here till you're all done and if the consensus is to start our own thread that's ok with me. I would like to feel like I'm getting to know a core group because it's easy to get lost on here - there are so many of us.
Glad to hear you slept better Julie and KIm - wishing you another.
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21 down / 14 to go!!! My skin is hanging in there, starting to feel more tired, but am able to sleep. I don't know if the Ativan questions have been answered, but I take it on "as needed" basis. I've taken it in the middle of the night and get a good 6 hours or so - the only issue right now is that I have to get up and go to rads in the morning, so I try not to take it during the week.
I'm glad so many people are done - I can't wait to join you!! I don't know when I'll start Tamoxafin - either late September/early October. It would be nice to have a little break, but I know my onc will want me to start right away. I see her 2 weeks after rads is finished. I would like to get down with Coumadin first (mid-October!).
soft hugs to everyone. Marilyn
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Good Evening Ladies, Hope you're all settling in for a sleep filled night.
Has anybody had pain in their side/back, like in the rib that runs around at that bottom of the treatment area? My skin is filling in unbelievably fast, but now I'm getting this pain like someone is tugging at my rib.
I was thinking about finding a silver lining in all of this. One silly one is that the good boob is looking really good, I guess the benefit of all the extra lotions and potions. Another is finding the support of this group. I'll stick here until everyone is done with this step in our journey and will jump to wherever everyone decides to post.
I expect to be getting my script for the big T the first week in Sept.
Sweet dreams. Donna.
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Donna, I've had kind of sharp pulling pain and burning pain around the area where I'm being radiated - mine is high above my breast and runs down into it deep in the tissue (remember I'm not getting my breast radiated for the pain coincides more with where I'm being radiated). I don't have it all the time but it comes and goes. Ditto for finding all of you as the silver lining - it really has helped me to feel normal - oops there's that word again.
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Good Morning Ladies:
TGIF finally...
Kim, I take bendrly each night to help me sleep, it did stop working since going off HRT,but I love it and take it 1/2 hour b-4 bed and I would sleep at least 6 hours, it was wonderful
I go three times per week for accupunchture for the 1st few weeks, then once a week, my insurance pays for it, so I don't mind, I do have to pay my Co-pay of $20.00 but at this point I would pay a million (ok don't have it tho)...LOL
I was reading that if you get a cough that this is not normal and to let them know ASAP, I was up all night coughing, so I will address this again, and if they blow it off as "NORMAL" I will have a big problem today with it.
Ladies: I also get the pains and burning feeling, again "NORMAL" I was told, like always, but I do think that part is normal. I put ice packs on the area of concern and it does help a lot.
I will find out today which pill I am going on, I know it not the "T" pill, I have to see the onco after my spa today, not sure why but will address my cough and other concerns I have, he will not say "NORMAL"...LOL
Ok, ladies Big Congrats to those who are done or almost done, this part of the journey can be put behind you.
Off to the Spa I go, have a great weekend
Julie
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p.s. Do any of you have Aflac via work??? Jim does on both of us and he also had the "Cancer" plan we found out last night they are paying me a hugh amount of money for Rad, it was music to my ears since I only work 1.5 hrs per day.
If any of you have it check it out, you will be shocked....Finally some good news...:)
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Hi, Thanks Bailey and Julie, mine sounds the same burning and pulling. I'll wait it out unless it gets worse.
That's great news Julie! We were offered some add'l insurance for catastrophic illnesses that would pay a lump sum when you're diagnosed and BC was on the list. You would get it whether you take time off work or not. Problem was it came out two days after I was diagnosed...murphy's law!
Happy Friday everyone! Donna.
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Hi everyone,
Time for our weekend break - hooray!
I had my first boost today. I was surprised at how quick it was. I am sincerely hoping that this means the rest of my breast will start to heal. I'm curious to what it will look like when it's fully healed. 4 boosts to go and I will be done (well-done, as the case may be).
For those of you who are getting ready to start Tamoxifen: there are a BUNCH of medications you cannot take while on Tamoxifen, because they stop Tamoxifen from working. These include many antidepressants and Benadryl. I have a friend whose mother-in-law took Zoloft the entire 5 years she was on Tamoxifen, which is a no-no, and just got diagnosed with bone mets. On the August Tamoxifen thread, one of the women posted a link to a site that tells you what you can and cannot take. My medical oncologist warned me about some of the medicines not to take, but then the radiation oncologist told me a somewhat different list than the med. oncologist. Geez! I just know that if I'm taking this medicine for 5 years, I want it to work!
Have a great weekend,
Karen
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Hi All:
Hope everyone is well. Well again I forgot to right down the name of the pill I will be starting when the spa is over with I think it begins with an "A"....
So the Rad onc said see my family Dr. about the cough and shortness of breath....I was not happy...But I also had to see the Onco, he is going to watch this and took tons of blood. he wanted to start me on an ABX but I'm allergic to 99.9% of them, so if he decides that route I will have to go into the hospital for IV abx's...Hoping its just my Acid refulx acting up causing all of this.
So next week I will have 3 weeks left...I'm really tired today, can't seem to be alert whatsoever, but TGIF...)
I hope everyone has a good weekend and takes some time for themselfs.
Hugs and nite
J
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Julie is the name of med Arimidex???
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DONE!!! Had my LAST boost today! So happy! So sore! Lots of blisters on the scar, and my armpit is a mess, but I ate SOLID food today! My nurse said it will take about 2 weeks for my skin to return to normal, and to keep using all the creams on it until then. Also hoping to be able to sleep in an actual bed by next week! I am sick of sitting up in a chair all night!
Julie, the cough IS from rads! I have had that, too, and the nurses all told me that's what it was! I hope you don't have the throat issues I had. Miserable!
Spendygirl, I have not slept, either. I have moved to the chair that I slept in after my mastectomy, but much of the night is spent on the computer, watching tv, or reading. Can you nap? I seem to sleep better during the day! Don't know what that's about!
Anyway, all of you still in the trenches are in my thoughts and prayers tonight! We are all in this battle together, and I pray we all survive!
Love you all!
Linda
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Linda: WTG, so glad you are done with this journey. I hope you heal fast....
I keep thinking its from the Rad also, but they said "NO", I just don't by it whatsoever. Today its a little better.
Snuz, yes I believe that is the name of the pill. I am going to ask if I can wait until the end of Sept to start it. My last day of Rad is 9/15 on my 3rd year anniversay and we are going away the end of Sept for a few days and I want to feel NORMAL. I really don't even want to take the pill, I am allergic to so much, Cipro put me into the ICU for 10 days and I almost died from it. When I had my lyme (which I still have) I had to tough it out due to all my allergies.
Ok, time to clean the house. I hope everyone has a wonderful weekend. Time away from the Spa is a vacation to me...LOL
Hugs
Julie
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Question or more of a thought for me.
These Dr's want us to go on these pills, but after so much research and I mean hours upon hours I can only find that your survival rate goes up 2-3% while being on this drug for 5 years and they really don't know the perment damage it can do to the body.
I really need to think long and hard b-4 I start any of these pills. I beleive a MAN MADE THEM...:)
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Donna - My onc says the pain around the rib area is internal scarring. We notice it more now that the area is swelling due to the radiation.
Linda - YEAH!!! I'm so glad it's over for you. I am 22 down 13 to go (but 7 are boosts). So I'll be joining you soon.
I need to have a long discussion with the onc over tamoxifin. I agree with you Julie - is 2% worth 5 years of drugs? It all depends on whether you are in the 95% safe or the 5% possible recurrence. It also depends on the intensity of the side effects and impact on quality of life. My onc says that 30% of women do not complete their drug treatment because of the SEs.
Enjoying the zap free weekend.
Marilyn
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Hi All,
Hope everyone is resting and taking care. It has been three days since I finished - weird thing is my skin is getting darker and more itchy as the days go by - they really do mean it peaks 1 week after. Is anyone else having or have had the same type of experience? Serious stuff this radiation!
Healing wishes,
Sonia
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Hi All, hope you're having good weekends.
Marilyn, thanks for the insight. I wonder how long the swelling will last? I thought the rad onc said to expect the rad side to end up smaller.
Linda, so glad you're done! Congrats to you.
Sonia, my skin peaked at about 1 1/2 weeks after boosts...2 1/2 after the end of the full breast. All the skin got darker and darker with alot of those little bumps that were very itchy. Some spots, like the underarm and underneath the breast blistered and started to peel. Then it turned around and is getting lighter every day and you can see the new skin filling in really quickly.
I use Cortaide and Lamisil (sp) on the itchy parts and Silvadene (sp) a prescription and aquaphor on the blistered oozy parts, with lots of vigilon, gauze and padding to try to keep it moist and avoid rubbing.
Scary how the rads keeps it's path of destruction so long after being zapped. Hope you can avoid some of these SEs and heal quickly.
Take care. Donna.
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Thanks for the information Donna. It helps to know I'm "normal". Gosh it's itchy though - makes me want to scratch and pick. You're bang on about the path of destruction - I guess that should make us all feel better - what could possibly survive under there.
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Hi ladies!
I want you all to know that things get SO MUCH better once rads are over.....I am not as tired, not as nauseous, and my skin is slowly healing. Continue to slather on all of the creams for at least two weeks after your last boost. My nipple was cracking (dreamt it fell off and was rolling down the street and I had to chase after it!) and I put emu oil and it is much better.
And I know I have mentioned this before, but for those of you getting ready so start the "pill", I have been on it now while doing rads, for two months, and I thought I was going to die, but I split the pill in half with a pill cutter, bought a am/pm pill box and have not looked back since. It makes a huge, huge difference with all the SE's, I was ready to quit. All of this healing takes time and we need to nourish ourselves with healthy food, exercise, support, and of course laughter!
Everyone hang in there! I am proof that this will get better..........hugs and smiles to all!
Marita15
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Good morning Ladies:
One more day of vacation (as I call it) and back to the Spa we go (radiation).
About the Pills they want me to go on. Just reading my Oncotype DX test. It came back a 9 and it said "Average rate of distant recurrence of 7% (95% CI: 4%-9%), then it said Breast Cancer Recurrence Score 9.
I really have to think long and hard over this drug, jury is still not out about the effects it can cause years after taking it, why add fuel to the fire...I guess I will try it but in my heart I just want my life back. Just not sure what to do, still have until the middle of Sept to decide.
Marita: Thanks for the tip on the pill, but I'm not going on the "T" pill its the Armidex not sure I can cut it in half until I get the pill.
My nipple is also turning dark brown, and the ring around the nipple is huge, plus I also itch, I take a bendrly and it does seem to help some.
Ok ladies, time to go see mom at the nursning home, have a great weekend and enjoy the day OFF.
Many hugs to all
Julie
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Hi all!
Linda - Congruluations on being finished!
Sonia and Donna - I was SOOO hoping that the rest of my breast would start to heal now that I've switched to the boosts - what a bummer that it gets worse before it gets better. Sonia, I had the same thought that NOTHING could have survived this!
Marita - thanks for the encouraging words! Nice to know there IS a light at the end of the tunnel (and it's not another train coming toward us!)
Julie - don't forget that the oncotype score ASSUMES 5 years of hormonal therapy. You might want to ask your oncologist what the rate of recurrence would be without hormonal therapy, to help you make the decision.
Enjoy the rest of the weekend!
Karen
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HI, all, I am back from our holiday and one of the first things I wanted to do, was check in with everyone.
Sorry my jet lagged and fogged brain cannot hold in everyone's name, but I too would like to keep in touch as this has been very helpful for me. Someone asked about what they can do, my son gave me an excellent book called anticancer that is very hopeful and talks a lot about nutrition, apparently tumeric and black pepper are really good for prevention. It is written by a doctor who is a cancer survivor himself, so seems quite reasonable.
A friend who was a paramedic explained that radiation has a half life, so now the extended effects make sense, It lasted about another 10 days for me and peaked about a week later, My onc nurse told me I could use .5% hydrocortisone cream under my Glaxal base cream for the itch, That seemed to help, and when things settled they settled very quickly. So yeah, I could wear a normal bra,
The whole getting back to normal is a big issue, because it is a new normal so we have to create it, I don't want to live in fear of a recurrence but I realize that it exists and I guess I still have to come to terms with all that has happened even though I am one of the lucky ones.
My doctor felt that I didn't need tamoxifen because it would make less than 1% of a difference, So I have been worried that I wasn't having it, yet relieved too. This is hard, because you have to trust others, and I am big into research and controlling my own future. So I wish everyone well with their own journey and decisions.
I am heading back to work next week and am hoping that I won't feel too tired as I too hit the wall every now and then. It is a new position so I want to do well yet don't know if I would be better with a gradual start? My doctor has said I could take more time if I need it, but I want to get back to the land of the "more normal".
I read another good book written for men, called Stand by Her, that talked about life after Cancerland, I guess we all have another major transition,
This has sure been my year, I became a grandmother, my husband has surgery for melanoma in between my biopsies, my son in law lost his job, and I am starting a new job.
Wow, sorry for so much, but I have missed checking in with you wonderful women, who get it, and it is appreciated that I can share my insights and my concerns with out worry,
Brenda
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Hi,
Welcome back Brenda. Good that you took time for yourself before starting back, especially with so much going on in your life. My best to you that all will swing back to positive for you and your family.
Thanks for the book recos. I'm going back to work tomorrow and will be looking for some good train reading.
Marita, glad your feeling better and for the encouragement. It really helps to see a bit ahead and know that we'll all get there. I'm feeling better everyday and hope the stress of going back to work doesn't set me back.
Karen, don't fret because everybody's different. My fingers are crossed that you and the others still in treatment will skip the 'after shock' and go straight to healing quickly.
Take good care. Donna.
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Hi everyone. For those who are done, thank you so much for posting what the week after might be like. Anyone having pain under the arm? Not the skin, but inside?
If you don't mind, I'd like to share my birthday surprise (birthday tomorrow). My husband, son and DIL conspired and flew my daughter home for the weekend (she's 26). They hid her at the restaurant Friday night. I cried in front of everyone. It's been so hard for me to go through this without her, we're very close. But we've had a weekend of silliness and I am so thankful. Back to the real world tomorrow.
Hang in there, we're almost done. Healing wishes to all.
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I am SOOOO itchy! It is getting worse as the weekend goes by. I only have 3 tx left and I wish I could have continued going this weekend just to get them done! I see the rad onc tomorrow and hopefully he will give me something to help with the itch. I was told not to use cortisone cream because of interference with the rads but once I'm done it should be okay (I hope!).
Spendygirl - HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!! What a wonderful gift your family gave you! Also, I have had pain like you describe. It was worse early during rads although I am probably just used to it now.
Donna - good luck on your return to work! Hope it goes well!
Brenda - good luck on your return to work as well! I read Anticancer during my recovery from surgery. It is an excellent book and I recommend everyone read it. It is well written and seems to be backed up well with solid research. It really pulled together so much I have heard about over the years about our health and environment. Wonderful news that you don't have to take "T" but I know what you mean about worrying about the fact that you aren't taking it. I felt that way when I found out I didn't have to have chemo. It was such a relief but frightening at the same time. We want to feel like we have done everything possible to kill all the cancer cells.
Marita - thanks for your positive post and for the reminder about splitting the "T" pill. Good to know we have some options if SE's are bad. I will be asking my onc about splitting the pills when I see her this week. Oh, and your dream - how funny!!!
Linda - congrats on being done! I hope you have been feeling better and that your throat issues are gone for good!
Karen - thanks for pointing out that info on drug interactions with "T". That is one BIG list - is there anything that doesn't interact with it?! How sad to be on it the whole time only to find out later that you were taking a drug that intereferes!
Well, off to bed (and benedryl),
Good night! Kim
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Hi All,
Thought I would chime in with some good news. I had my last treatment a week ago Wednesday and wanted to report that my skin is healing really fast. It is almost hard to tell where the burn line is! I can't believe it. I do still have a tan circle from the boosts and my aerola is peeling. The swelling is gone. The best thing of all is that yesterday and today I felt NORMAL!!! No tiredness - the fatigue has lifted - I'm so excited. I hope it doesn't come back.
I had the itchies and unhappy skin like I hear many of you still struggling with and even an open crack at one point. Just thought you would want to hear that our bodies seem to recover pretty darn quickly once the rads stop.
Like many of you, I can't make up my mind about taking tamoxifen either. Its such a small percentage that it lowers our risk - but it feels scary not try everything. I am planning to give myself at least a month off. I've been dealing with this since mid-February and mentally I just need a break. My onc suggests giving it a 2-month try. If I'm miserable, he says I can quit. I like the person's suggestion of cutting the pill in half and taking it 2x a day. I think I will try that. I also hear some of you talking about an oncotype number. I'm going to ask for that.
I enjoy reading all of your posts. Congratulations to those of you who have finished, for those still treating - hang in there!!!
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Kickon2it - thanks for the positive post. Glad to hear your healing well. I hope I do the same because I am about to go mad with this itching!!! As for Oncotype, I see that you had DCIS, and while I still think you should talk to your doc about it in case I am wrong, my understanding is that the test is only done for invasive cancers.
Good luck with your decision and enjoy your "time off" before taking it (if you decide to do so). Kim
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Spendy: A big Happy Birthday, what a gift you got...Enjoy
Linda: Congrats on being done and over with, with this part of the journey, take time off and enjoy life for a while...:)
Kickon: I have to agree I will try this pill and see how I feel, but if I feel like what I have read, I will quit,but will give it a try b-4 saying "NO"...:)
Brenda: Good luck back at work, I'm sure it will be hard but nice to be with "NORMAL" people again...:) Gotta love that word "NORMAL"....
Ok, time fo the spa, have a great week ladies, chat soon
Julie
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Only 2 more days to go!!! I saw the doc today and he said I could use some hydrocortisone cream - yeah! Why didn't someone tell me that earlier! Oh well, I slathered some on this afternoon and will do it again tonight. Hopefully it will take the edge off of the itchiness. The benadryl isn't working as well as it did in the beginning. I woke up several times last night scratching. Meanwhile, I noticed that those little bumps I have are becoming little blisters. I guess this is "normal".
Gotta run - need to get my son to soccer practice.
Kim
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